Here come the Jihad Watch readers
Greetings, zombies! Terry Glavin writes so elegantly and compellingly, it is seems almost a shame to disagree with him. Unfortunately, expressing something beautifully does not make it so.
"Middle East myths drop like dominos," by Terry Glavin in the National Post, February 28 (thanks to Gilles):
[...] Along with the now lifeless Edward Said there are also the undead. Consider Robert Spencer, whose biography reads a little like Edward Said’s, in its way. Like Said was, Spencer is a scholar, a widely published author, and an American of Middle Eastern Christian extraction with legions of fans. Like Said, Spencer is widely regarded in his circles, as was Edward Said in his own, as an authority on the imaginary frontiers that cleave the world between “west” and “east.” The Czar Gaddafi insists that the Libyan protests are the result of Al Qaida putting hallucinogens in everybody’s Nescafe. Not to be outdone:They may be pro-democracy insofar as they want the will of the people to be heard, but given their worldview, their frame of reference, and their core assumptions about the world, if that popular will is heard, it will likely result in huge victories for the Muslim Brotherhood and similar pro-Sharia groups.
- Robert Spencer, on Libya’s revolutionary democrats, 2011.In light of everything we are witnessing from Casablanca to Isfahan, the miserable and allegedly “progressive” viewpoint taken by Edward Said’s followers is matched by and coupled with Spencer’s lurid “conservative” cynicism in a symbiotic death grip, each parasitic upon the other, both offering nothing but the ravings of demented Americans. Everything is being swept away – it is 1989, it is 1917, it is 1848, as you like. As it is with Edward Said’s followers, Spencer’s fan base now betrays itself as an assortment of specimens from the Upper Cretaceous period of the Mesozoic era. They are yesterday’s men. They are zombies.
It is not just to the price of oil that the rebellions are proving so terribly inconvenient. All the evidence, from Tunisia, Libya, Bahrain, Egypt and Iran, shows that democracy, freedom, work, wages and a “normal” life are exactly what the people are demanding. The people are not clamouring for the immolation of the Jews anymore than they are hollering for the appointment of Norman Finkelstein as the defence minister.
They aren't? Really? Demonstrators interviewed in Egypt during the uprising against Mubarak said that they hated him because "he is supporting Israel. Israel is our enemy...If people are free in Egypt...they gonna destroy Israel." Video here. Also, attackers in Tahrir Square shouted "Jew! Jew!" during their brutal sexual assault of "60 Minutes" reporter Lara Logan. These open-minded secular democratic protesters also drew Stars of David on photos of Mubarak, thereby demonstrating their considered rejection of Islamic antisemitism.
In Egypt, the April 6 Movement that started it all is root and branch a movement of trade unionists, secularists, and young intellectuals, all committed democrats. The Muslim Brotherhood was completely marginalized by it. The Ikhwan failed utterly in its attempts to hijack the uprising and now the aging Brethren sit in their solitary chairs with the rest of the Egyptian establishment, studying ways to mollify the revolt.
And yet Sheikh Qaradawi, godfather of the "marginalized" Brotherhood, recently made a triumphant appearance in Tahrir Square to a massive crowd, while secular liberal Wael Ghonim was barred from the stage. So which group is really marginalized?
In Libya, the February 17 movement has been consistent in its intentions for a secular democracy. The Libyans who have been pleading for our help have heard only cynical incoherence and self-gratifying expressions of outrage, but even so, even the Libyan imams have pleaded for the February 17 demands and continue to assert their faithfulness to the same secular cause.
Yeah, they "continue to assert their faithfulness to the same secular cause" in between drawing Stars of David on images of Gaddafi, chanting "no god but Allah," and establishing an Islamic Emirate.
In Tunisia last week, 15,000 demonstrators gathered to condemn the Islamists who mobbed a synagogue and murdered a Polish Catholic priest in an obscene attempt to hijack the Tunisian uprising. The pro-democracy banners in Tunis read: “Nous sommes tous Musalmans, nous sommes tous Chretiens, nous sommes tous Juifs.” On it goes like this, in Morocco, across Iran, and in little Bahrain....
And yet also in Tunisia, demonstrators swarmed outside a synagogue, chanting a genocidal Islamic battle cry, and jihadists recently murdered a Catholic priest. Evidently not quite tous are Chretiens or Juifs.
Look, I would love to be proven wrong here, and Terry Glavin proved correct. I'd love to see genuine secular democracy blossom all over the Middle East. But Glavin cannot, unfortunately, point to any organized secular democratic movements of any significance in any of the countries in question, while in all of them, Islamic supremacist pro-Sharia groups are sizable, organized, and energetic.
I can't see how this will end well, but maybe I will be pleasantly surprised, and retire back to my undead coffin in peace.
Kaffir Kanuck weighs in on this here.
Oh noes, we r zombies.
I'd have to say the followers of Muhammed are the zombies, brain-dead(washed?) and willing to kill and feed off the living.
Spencer’s fan base now betrays itself as an assortment of specimens from the Upper Cretaceous period of the Mesozoic era. They are yesterday’s men. They are zombies.
I love it when people talk like that...I wonder who 'todays men' are? Apparently they are not zombies...That eliminates liberal/leftists/communists/Marxists and Islamics who all march in lock step...So who are 'todays men'? Inquiring minds want to know...
Unfortunately for the world,you, Mr. Spencer are correct in your assessment of Islam and these newly "liberated/ being liberated" countries like Egypt. Unless Islam is rejected completely (which will NEVER happen) by the people in Egypt etc. the progression from a temporary "democratic" government to sharia based rule of terror by imams will occurr. This social experiment is happening right now in Turkey, Malaysia, and Indonesia, where the gov'ts are gradually morphing into strict sharia based tryannies. Too bad Terry Glavin doesn't bother to study this live social transformation as it unfolds, he might learn something!
This reminds me... I love, and watch a lot of, horror/sci-fi type movies and they are telling as to what were popular fears of the time periods they were made.
For example, in the 1950's the popular theme was monsters created from radiation exposure. Nuclear bombs and radiation was a present fear, and a mystery, at that time.
Today, zombies are a popular theme, it's interesting to me as to why. Looking back in time, you can decipher the themes and what was causing the popular fear at the time and it makes perfect sense. I wonder if the zombie theme is so very popular now, because of Islamic terrorism and fanaticism being so prevelant in the world today.
A religious fanatic is like a zombie as far as the inability to reason with them, and with Islamic fanatics they wish to kill other humans. Also zombies feed off the living, and in Europe, there is a tide of thought that Muslims 'feed' off of the working (living) people through benefits. Anyway, just an interesting topic to me.
Thank God for your sense of humor, Robert.
"I can't see how this will end well, but maybe I will be pleasantly surprised, and retire back to my undead coffin in peace." LOL!
You're so funny, very witty, and you need that humor for ballast against all the idiots and morons who denigrate you.
Terry Glavin isn't too educated about Islam, is he?
Dino-zombies?
Take your pick from the Upper Cretaceous:
http://www.nhm.ac.uk/jdsml/nature-online/dino-directory/region.dsml?perID=6&disp=list&sort=genus®ionID=%25
I favour the raptors.
Glavin should consider the polling data, and the precedents. (See PEW, WorldPublicOpinion, Gallup, etc.). The polling data indicate that most Muslims in the region want sharia. It may not be an immediate concern for them (most of the immediate concerns for most seem to center around getting rid of dictatorship and corruption, and in improving economic conditions), but the preference for sharia is a long term stable attitude, part of the core belief system of the majority of Muslims throughout the region, that will probably have an influence on how things unfold over the next few years. The precedents, such as the election of Hamas, the tendency of "democratic" Iraq and Afghanistan toward implementing elements of sharia, and the importance of sharia in the constitutions of Afghanistan and Iraq, indicate that widespread underlying beliefs and preferences have a way of becoming, and remaining, policy and law.
Zombie Marisol need braaaaaaiiiiinns!
*swigs coffee*
Sorry, what now?
Terry Glavin has spent too much time in his world of creative writing, but its now time to return to the real world and look at a few hard facts. Robert's predictions, based on his wide knowledge of Islamic religion and culture, are usually accurate — however much we might wish for a Pollyanna world.
If we carefully pay attention to liberal political rhetoric it is easy to see that they regularily accuse anyone that they dislike as being guilty of all the things that in reality the liberals are actually doing. I presume this is their way of inoculating themselves from the truth about themselves.
Hello "zombies" :-)
Here a quote of Mo's suck puppet Allah:
5:38 "As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power."
WOW ... when a Muslim steal 10 dollars,
your hand will be cut off!
What a "wonderful" (Sharia) law you have :-)
Mr.Glavin is obviously quite proud of his "fancy Dan" style of writing,award winning and all ya know. I would suppose he glamors up his writings so that he dare not get the ear of Canadian Muslims or their support base, the Canadian Human Rights commission. After all he would not want to be facing that commission as the quite witty but straight shooter on Islam Mark Steyn did.
After reading all of his fancy writing, I end up with barely nothing of concrete substance, oh I guess it is because I am a walking Zombie who lives in the past.
Were Mr. Glavin goes terribly wrong in my brain dead estimation is that he never once addresses the near possibility no matter how slight it may be (sarc) that there might just be a role of a particular religion may just be at play here. Failing to understand that Islam is locked in stone and its teachings are considered pure for all time is obviously not recognized by author Glavin.
And I would like to see all these Imans in the Middle east that are clamoring for secularism in their countries that are in turmoil in the middle east.
If having an awareness of what Islam is about makes me a zombie than I would be proud to be one though such a comment stretches Mr.Glavin's article to a pompous point of very shallow credibility.
Actually, "in light of everything we are witnessing from Casablanca to Isfahan" (and beyond), an objective observer would have to conclude that the Islamists (whether called radical, militant, or conservative) are feeling stronger and stronger. All across the Moslem world, attacks on Christians and other unbelievers, and on non-mainstream Moslems like the Ahmadis, are increasing in frequency and intensity. Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia....
John Quincy Adams on Islam.
"In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar (mohammed), the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent god; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE...Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant...While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon the earth, and good will towards men"
Glavin is wrong, but I would try to educate him rather than be too hard on him. Unlike so many other journalists, he is actually critical of Islam and pro-Israel. He just has an excessively rosy view of the current events in the Middle East.
What can one expect from a “creative writer” who calls his colleague a “comrade”?
At the end of his puff piece, Glavin states: “It is too early to know where it is all going.” Yet, he pontificates as if he knows. He would do well to recall Islamists were also educated by Nazis and the Bosheviks/Soviets. Think: front organizations, propaganda, and how to seize power as minority parties, etc...
The people demonstrating and fighting on the “Arab street” might want “democracy, freedom, work, wages and a ‘normal’ life," as he claims, but that doesn’t mean they will get it, let alone that they represent a majority view (at least with respect to “democracy” and Glavin’s notions of “freedom”) any more than the anti-Shah groups got that by deposing him. The “Iranian revolution” was hijacked by the ayatollahs. One can be certain the Arab Islamists will give it their best shots, even if they were initially caught off guard.
The Arab world, for that matter, has little to offer the rest of the world other than death (oil or blood), hate (of non-Muslims), sand, phosphate, frankincense and myrrh. Since oil is more useful than the rest of what is on offer, why should Glavin be surprised if the “rich world” (does this include China and India?) is primarily concerned about the price of oil?
Also, his statement that “soon enough there will be none left” (oil) betrays a Club of Rome mentality. Sure, the planet’s oil supply is fixed, but economics (supply, demand, price) and technological innovation make it likely that oil will continue to flow for a long time. Brazil’s offshore reserves have yet to come on line, for example. Canada, which one would think Glavin would know something about, has vast oil tar sand reserves. The U.S. also has large coal and oil shale reserves.
The “American world” will be relevant for some time, much to Glavin’s chagrin, and the U.S. will remain Canada’s big neighbor for longer still. A revolution or civil war in China, a reversal of America's untenable fiscal mess, and/or other unforseeable events could make it more relevant and for longer. Decline is neither a given nor irreversible.
Lastly, Gavin’s needless ad hominem attacks on “demented Americans” and Spencer’s “fan base” betray an arrogance and ignorance fitting of a “creative writer” of limited perspective.
To Mr. Glavin, I reply with Col. Allen West's now famous line:
"Don't try to blow sunshine up my butt and tell me that it's warm and fuzzy!"
And, Glavin, Canada's per capita energy consumption is actually higher than that of the U.S. As an energy exporter, Canada actually benefits more from the turmoil in the Arab world.
Two Univ. of California/Santa Barbara professors {sic} have written editorial pieces in that universities daily paper.
Don't let these Muslim apologists get away with their bullsh*t. Write a comment refuting their lies:
http://www.dailynexus.com/category/opinion/
... Spencer’s fan base now betrays itself as an assortment of specimens from the Upper Cretaceous period of the Mesozoic era. They are yesterday’s men. They are zombies.
Same old, same old. Typical "leftist" style discourse; when you can't prove your case with empirical evidence, resort to ad hominems. Yawn.
Glavin's bizarre use of geological terminology to amplify his metaphor is so exaggerated the point is lost beneath big words that become mere florid arabesque kitsch... He's probably been gagging to re-use that metaphor since he first wrote it 11th grade English class.
Mrruugghhhh, braaaaainnns.. *sniffs Mr Glavin's head, then moves on* No braaainn... hungryy...
Terry Glavin forgot to end his piece with "/sarc LOL".
You're on the right trajectory, Robert. As was pointed out by Mahatma Gandhi,
1. First they ignore you
2. Then they laugh at you
3. Then they fight you
4. Then you win.
Judging by Glavin's piece, you're somewhere about 2.5, but the arc of the trajectory is steadily upward. You're just approaching the ramparts and the first arrows have started to fly. Much action to ensue. Look for more arrows.
Eastview
A Proud JW Zombie Since 2008.
Did zombies roam the ancient supercontinent with the dinosaurs, or am I missing something? I don't know anything about Glaven, but for him to condemn our lack of enthusiasm for the great Middle Eastern 'democratic' revolution is rather arrogant and shortsighted. Anyone can go out and dig up statistics and data to support an opinion, and anyone can personally attack those who have an opposing opinion. What's the point? Our opinions won't have any impact on the final outcome.
This upheaval in the M.E. is far from over and nobody knows how it will ultimately conclude but based on the history of the region and current polling data, the old tyrants will be replaced by new ones via a 'democratic' process. The new tyrants will enforce islamic law, which many muslims consider the epitome of freedom. So hurrah for the 'revolution' in the M.E. and may the will of the people prevail!
lol! Actually, the "throwback" is Glavin. Tsk, tsk.
Terry, didn't your mother teach you any social manners?
OK, the male fan base are the zombies, but the ladies prefer to be called a Zombette's. I mean, Hello!
...omit the "a", sigh.
The real power of western civilization has been the triumph of rationalism over dogma, and an openness to foreign ideas. In other words "mutlitculturalism" is our strength, but when "multiculturalism" itself becomes dogma, devoid of rationalism, you run into the sort of mindless cultural equations espoused by people on the left, who equate what is the real power of western civilization, to a culture that has been desroyed by its lack of rationalism, and adherences to mindless dogma's.
Perhaps this is why people on the left and Islamists make such great bed fellows, both are lost, irrational, and stuck on mindless dogma. They are the zombies.
Ignorance is bliss.
Proud to be a zombie. Let's rally 'gainst Ali! Go JW zombies!
Terry Glavin is counting his chickens before they hatch.
There has not yet been any political event to occur that proves the pessimists to have been wrong and countless statements and small actions to prove they are right to be concearned.
It might happen, the middle east might blossom into a democratic and free society because of these rebellions. But Terry Glavin should wait untill it actually happens before relegating the pessimists to the trashheap of history.
This stuff is all very depressing and I would take the relization that my POV has been unrealistically skewed with great relief. But there has been absolutely no event to prove that wrong and countless ones to prove it right.
Instead of facts Terry Glavin relies on mere statements about what people say they want or what they claim they are rebelling over in order to get popular support. Someone as sophisticated as Mr. Glavin would like to think he is should know better than to take what any political people say at face value.
"democracy, freedom, work, wages and a “normal” life are exactly what the people are demanding."
a) That does not mean the governments they support will give them that in the long run.
b) What a government will do with an improved economy is also something to consider. Terrorism is funded by petrodollars and zakat as it is. Do we want them to have more money with which to wage religious war? Hellz no.
c) The classical Islamic definition of freedom is Orwellian double speak. They mean the freedom to live according to the strictest possible interpretation of islamic law in which there is only freedom from decision making and resposibility.
d) The radical groups only pretend to care about these issues to get support from the general populace. Political groups jump onto any issue they think is benificial to be associated with.
e) Radical groups have worked specifically to exaserbate poor economic conditions precisely in order to create dissatisfaction so they can offer themselves as a solution to the resulting economic woes.
Remember, it was an "offshoot" of the Muslim Brotherhood that waged a campagn of atroceties against tourists in order to damage Egypts tourism industry during the 90's.
That Terry Glavin did not think of any of those factors is truelly bizarre.
Or to paraphrase my last comment, ook ook. Fire good.
". . . people like Robert Spencer who seek to intentionally delegitimize moderates are advancing a not-too-subtle form of racism, and their ideas will join anti-Semitism and anti-Catholicism in the dustbin of history." - Reza Aslan
". . . the era of extremism is over" - Daisy Khan
"The infidels leave their false shrines, to gorge themselves in the troughs of materialism and adultery... and in his mercy and compassion, Allah raises up new peoples to take their place and bring His Light where before there was only darkness and abomination. " - Roland Shirk
The Muslim Brotherhood and Gaddafi were partners not too long ago
linked from
International Free Press Society
lol! ...yeah all that's required of a zombie or a zombette are mindless, baseless, guttural sounds. Remember, we have to put our brains aside while posting on JW, so your first comment was waaay too intelligent for Terry Gargoyle :)
Terry Glavin is a pathetic loser
Useful idiots, the Terry Glavins of this world.
There is no cure for stoopid, unfortunately.
Walter Duranty's Pulitzer was never recalled, in spite of the vile effort he made to defend Communism from those who knew what a murderous, inhuman polit-machine it is. Never mind the mountains of death. It was a matter of necessity, to get the perfect system to work.
Terry Glavins doesn't know what he's talking about, but he says it loudly, in a vulgar way, without even realizing what a fool he makes of himself.
Correction:
was supposed to read "never mind the mountains of dead bodies along the way".
Terry Glavin is a pathetic loser.
what would an islamist equate us to "upper cretaceous" organisms..? such science is withcraft. the devils work.
as for zombies. look at the "jersey 2" look at every suicide bomber worldwide. look at the followers uprising across the middle east, "martyrs in the millions, to jerusalem we go" etc
they do stuff then blame us for the same behaviour. its the standard(yawn) childs defence.
NO. YOURE A ZOMBIE! no YOU are!
If we're Neanderthals, then what does that make Muslims?
Lemurs?
:D
Take it easy. Terry isn't a pathetic loser. He may be ignoring the inconvenient parts of reality that conflict with his hopey-changy view of the world, but it doesn't make him a bad person.
Although, this most recent decent into name calling has me wondering if his exasperation with the lack of progress towards civility by Muslims has finally let his mask slip.
He means well, even if he needs to buy a clue.
I want Col. West's quote on a T-Shirt!
pre cambrian would have been an insult.. he's compared us to t-rex.
as for citing dates randomly, just a list of raped maids in saudi arabia, or a list of every suicide bombing or assination of political rivals in the last 40 years would eclipse the information presented on this site.. and we all know our history, past and present.. and realise nothing has changed since 622. we compare now to then and uncannily, nothing has changed. except high explosives
its just gotten even more fiendish, brutal and dishonest. at every level of governement here, they are starting to get louder and more aggressive and playing the victim. ive heard and read transcripts of local meeting involving them from all over the state. wherever theyve been involved in local council meetings in the runup to elections here, its degenerated to shouting matches, irrelevent rants and accusations, threats and sometimes violence. thats just at a local level. they can almost get away with it.
were responding to evidence presented daily, from all nations and backrounds... i'm a trade union supporting aussie who has studied australian history, acrheology, botany and horticulture. at uni and part time. i'm from a working background and i'm an athiest. as a true leftist, not a care bear leftist, i believe very passionately in secular government. even if it has to be imposed by force.
i fit his mold? "demented americans"? check the diversity of our membership and contributors and affiliates again. were from all over the world.
i have been threatened and badly beaten by muslims. ive proven to be tough. ive seen it 1st hand, on the television, in the newspapers and on the internet all my life. the arguments are getting weaker. people are getting less tolerant and starting to call them on their bluster.
this guys scared of us. so he's throwing mud.
my 1st encouter with islam was as a child of 7 or 9..
my best friend at school, of finnish background, told me in tears how 2 men came to his grandmothers house last night. when she answered, thay spat at her, slapped her, and warned her to sell up and move out, as this was a muslim suburb now (it had been a growing enclave for about 4 or 5 years). she was elderly and alone, in her own, paid off house her and her deceased husband had had since arrival in the 40's.
my family arrived in 1803 in chains. weve achieved so much, now its starting to be written out of the primary school curriculum as offensive and irrelevent. we face tragedy.
whats this clown's story? do i need to look him up or is he typically throwing mud as they do? i bet he won't debate robert over the issue.
are these the ravings of a triceratops zombie in his opinion? where's his proof? his data as to the average contributors nationality, background, location etc. assumptions and vocal personal mudslinging in the abscence of facts and data. a soft target and a sweeping assumption.
the lowest denomenator, with nothing to back it up
i repeaat. this guys scared of us.
Nope. Lemurs are too cute and too Cenozoic, too Holocene. Rigid adherents of ossified Islam are Australopithecines.
March 3rd, the date that this article was posted, is a fitting day to to celebrate the inauguration of the unofficial "Spencer's Zombies" club. It is the anniversary of the abolition of the Ottoman Khilafah (Caliphate) in 1924.
Everything is being swept away – it is 1989, it is 1917, it is 1848, as you like.
............................
Really—Glavin has *no preferences* here whatsoever?
The first was a genuine, joyful, peaceful pulling down of the hated Berlin Wall in 1989, and it signaled the end of the Iron Curtain and, ultimately, the Soviet Union.
This transition has not been entirely without problems, but it has resulted in a far, far freer world. Few could argue it has represented anything but a great boon for mankind.
The second marked the fall of Tsarist Russia and the birth of the Soviet Union in 1917. Whatever the oppressions of the Tsarist state—and they were many—they paled compared to the outright slaughter of Lenin and Stalin. Millions would die under the "dictatorship of the proletariat". In addition, the Russian Revolution inspired any number of Communist revolutions around the world—China, Cuba, Southeast Asia—leading to more and more death and repression, the legacy of which lasts to this day.
Few sane people look on this event as anything but a disaster for human freedom.
As for the last—the great revolutions that swept Europe in 1848 largely came to little. Despite the death and the lofty rhetoric, this was mostly a great commotion that ultimately signified little.
How can Glavin *possibly* regard these as of a piece? They all represented revolutions and "change", but that is all.
So—what are we dealing with here?
Of course, we can never know for sure—history never repeats itself exactly, and none of us have crystal balls.
If I had to pick one scenario, though, that seems to best mirror the current situation, it would the second. A case where the toppling of deeply oppressive tyrannies leads to something much, much worse.
As for the rest, as a "demented American", I could not be more proud than to present my "ravings" here.
I posted a reply to Nancy Gallagher's soothing piece on
Muslim Brotherhood's Rachid Ghannouchi
"Tunisian Coup Institutes First of Secular Islamists"
http://www.dailynexus.com/2011-03-03/tunisian-coup-institutes-secular-islamists/comment-page-1/#comment-88447
using some stuff I'd already posted to
http://tundratabloids.com/2011/01/as-predicted-fundamuslims-in-tunisia-lead-the-pack-to-grab-that-golden-ring.html
in the wake of the Lara Logan rape I would have to say that the only zombies with regard to this subject matter are the complicit media which this nut job is obviously a card carrying member. the media is responsible for what happened to this poor girl by ignoring this shameful activity that is occurring en mass across all the countries that try to unconditionally assimilate Islam into western culture. Making excuses for rape, blaming the victims clothing or my favorite-leaving out the fact that the rapist were Muslim and instead calling them Asians. I know this is off subject but it is incomprehensible to me that the media and the rapists do not know that this is a morally reprehensible act. I would say enabling a zombie makes you one too. And finally, if guys like Glavin really believe the tripe they are saying I would just prefer they came out and said that they were being financed by CAIR or the like instead of pretending to feign objectivity.
Glavin is a useful idiot. Why are we wasting so much time and energy on this cretin?
I wonder if Gandhi would like his India/Pakistan now ?
Hi Fellow Zombies,
It’s an embarrassment to be a Canadian when a hollow man such as Terry Glavin espouses nonsense like “All the evidence from Tunisia, Libya, Bahrain, Egypt and Iran shows that democracy, freedom, work, wages and a ‘normal’ life are exactly what people are demanding.” What evidence? And even if the people in these countries do want democracy, they don’t have the political institutions required to implement free societies. What they do have are groups of well organized Islamic fundamentalists who will slowly take control of political, economic, social and religious life. Glavin is in denial about the true politics of Muslim countries, as are most of Canada’s left of centre mouthpieces. Glavin’s comments are particularly unenlightened considering Stewart Bell’s book Cold Terror: How Canada Nurtures and Exports Terrorism Around the World.
I'm not embarrassed to be a Canadian, Glavin is the embarrassment. The other Canadians who are keeping their eyes shut to reality will soon find out. The Harper Government will be elected in as a majority Government. They will implement policies to make Canada uncomfortable for Islamamentians to immigrate. Who would want to live in the far North for 5 years when you are used to warm climes?
I'm proud to be a Spencer Zombie! Look at all the good company I'm with!
Keep up the good work Robert! You've got them taking notice!
The National Post's sister paper, The Ottawa Citizen, has its own minions of Liberalislam hard at work on the same topics here:
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/opinion/Gardner+Reality+mocks+those+doom/4379153/story.html
;-(
Thank you, Robert Spencer, for linking to Kaffir Kanuck's entry on this topic.
I had been wondering how he was faring during his deployment in Afghanistan. Very glad to see he is doing well.
I had not been aware of his blog, the delightfully named "Moose and Squirrel". I'll be checking it out regularly.
"Journalist, author and blogger Terry Glavin is an adjunct professor of CREATIVE WRITING at the University of British Columbia." [Emphasis added]
It is amazing to me that journalists, whose job is essentially to provide facts (who, what, when, where, how) to the public, are instead allowed to declare their personal, political, and emotional editorial short stories as fact and are held as experts regarding whatever subject they are editorializing about. Many "journalists" simply take juvenile jabs at public figures with impunity, calling it freedom of the press. They even make talk shows and interview each other, as if they themselves are the news and the ultimate authority on every subject imaginable simply because they write stories about them. Reasonable people read and watch the news considering the source and trying to discern the actual facts from opinions. Read any news story and count how many actual facts and/or true and knowledgeable statements are printed in it, then count the speculations, baseless opinions and rhetoric, and biased and/or ignorant slants.
Considering the subject article:
"All the evidence, from Tunisia, Libya, Bahrain, Egypt and Iran, shows that democracy, freedom, work, wages and a “normal” life are exactly what the people are demanding." All the evidence? What evidence exactly?
"The people are not clamouring (sic) for the immolation of the Jews . . ." Is he saying, despite all the statements by imams and rioters themselves and even the requirements in the Quran itself, that there is no such motivation in the riots for Islamic (i.e., enforced by Sharia law) democracy? On what facts does he base that statement?
"In Egypt, the April 6 Movement that started it all is root and branch a movement of trade unionists, secularists, and young intellectuals, all committed democrats." And he is stating this because he has taken a role call of all the rioters? By "democrats" does he mean members of the U.S. Democratic party? Is he getting his "facts" from a registry of Democratic voters?
"The Muslim Brotherhood was completely marginalized by it." What facts are the basis for that statement? The fact that the Muslim Brotherhood is taking the role of spokesman for the rioters, which is not being opposed by the rioters? That the Muslim Brotherhood is making specific demands directly to the governments being ousted, to the U.S., and to the world, and those demands are being considered?
A thinking person could go line by line by line in this article and in the end conclude it is merely the egotistical and unsupported ravings of someone declaring this person is a lunatic, that person is a lunatic, but here's my exalted opinion. It is very creative writing indeed.
james
hi, my fellow Australian. (Full disclosure, just to spit in Glavin's eye: I am an Australian of mixed Scottish, Irish, German, Danish and English descent and having cousins who have married into the indigenous community; female, married, four children, two degrees under my belt from two of Australia's oldest and best-established universities, speak some German and Italian and can read French, German and Italian besides a bit of Latin, have read the whole of the Quran in translation and the more I learn about Islam and the ways of the Ummah or Mohammedan Mob, the more thoroughly and wholeheartedly I despise it).
Glavin - if he ever visited this forum at all - did not pay attention, because if he had, he would surely have seen that the regulars and the visitors are not wall-to-wall Americans: that there are a goodly selection of Canadians, Britons, Australians, Israelis, persons from various countries of continental Europe (e.g. Dutch - 'demsci' and 'sumdum' spring to mind, Danes, French, Germans...), a Russian or two (probably more lurking), and persons from further afield, such as Filipinos, and a lot of proud non-Muslim Indians. I've seen non-Muslims posting here from Malaysia and Indonesia.
By the way: thank you for passing on the story of your Finnish-Australian schoolmate's experience.
His grandmother was far from being the only one thus treated by the Mohammedan Mob.
Did you read this article by Paul Sheehan, that appeared in the Sydney Morning Herald in 2006?
http://www.smh.com.au/news/paul-sheehan/ideals-become-casualties-of-war/2006/08/13/1155407666922.html
'A minority causes collateral damage to the way we live, writes Paul Sheehan.
'One of the edges of the global clash between Muslims and the rest is a bottle shop in a small and ratty shopping mall in western Sydney. The owner of the bottle shop is suffering low-level but steady harassment from his neighbours, who want him gone. He's a Christian who has been told repeatedly: "This is a Muslim area," and he is selling alcohol, which is proscribed by Islam.
'The one-hour parking zone outside the bottle shop is always occupied because local Muslims leave their cars there all day. The owner has written to the local council to complain, and nothing has been done. He does not want to be identified because he fears retribution. His reaction is sensible.
'A friend of mine, Jenny D, used to live in Lakemba. She began receiving insults from people in the street, usually Muslim women wearing headscarves, and sometimes Muslim men. If she wore a short skirt, she could expect abuse or comment. She left Lakemba.
'Soon after, I moved to America, stayed away for 10 years, and thought nothing more of her story.
' But after I came back to Sydney I found Jenny's experience had been part of a larger pattern.
'One particularly strong witness to this pattern was Judith, who managed an agency helping war widows, because she encountered "dozens" of cases where people were harassed by Muslim neighbours who wanted them gone. "It was common," she told me.
"A lot of these ladies couldn't take it and moved out. It happened in Campsie, Belmore, Lakemba, Bankstown, Punchbowl ...
"It was everything ... throwing rubbish over the fence, screaming abuse, blocking the driveway, knocking fences down. One guy would throw coffee grains on the windows and bottles on the roof late at night ... I confronted some of them, and the men would call me a lot of names, mostly in Arabic."
Your friend's grandmother was, it appears, one of many; dear little elderly ladies abused and bullied by Muslims until they gave up, sold up, and left. One presumes that their homes were snapped up cheap by Muslims... **SPIT**.
And have you seen this?
http://www.australian-news.com.au/Tim_Priest.htm
QUADRANT Volume XLVIII Number 1 - January-February 2004
The Rise of Middle Eastern [note: more properly, Muslim – dda] Crime in Australia
Tim Priest