Pakistan: Two more Christians killed, churches burned as Muslims respond to Florida Qur'an burning

Allah knows where I live, if there are issues over my lack of respect for a Misogynistic/pedophile/warrior....then Allah can come over and kill me istead of one of his moronic brain-dead Misunderstanders of islams Peace&love.

But, there are 5'500'000'000 unbelievers like me that don't...AND won't worship Muhammad or embrace Honour-killings and public executions of Homosexuals and female adultress sinners.
Good luck trying to slaughter 5.5 billion people as CAIR and Obama want us to be Calm and exercise "Restraint" to not blame 1% of a population for the action of the 99% that want a Global caliphate ruled by Shariah law.

A pak of hating, howling, halal hyenas doing what they do best. Bad news coming out of Poxistan is more reliable than The Pony Express.

Many, many more Christians and non-Muslims will likely be slaughtered in the streets because of the Quran and Sunnah before the evil cult of sick little Muhammad's Islam finally bites the dust...

"Extremists also threatened reprisals and other targeted attacks against Christians, if the U.S. government fails to take action against Pastor Jones...."

sounds like a threat to me...

Yeah it's Pastor Jone's fault.

It's always our fault.

We can't trust the Islamists in Pakistan to control themselves. This is what Islam is:

"I shall rape all, kill all, steal all & any suffering consequences are your fault, the victim, for existing!"

Mr. Jones did not call for violence against muslims. But muslims responded by calling for attacks against christians only because they are christian.

Just as soon as a resolution against such things is passed in the UN it is ignored by the very people who called for it.

If those people are not arrested it exposes the truth that those countries who called for this resolution had absolutelly no intention of living by it.

Once western countries outlaw Koran Burning these rabid loons will start throwing riots because someone somewhere eats pork. The ONLY reason they do it is because they have been spoiled by wimps in our nations who rewarded their pscyhotic tantrums.

I for one will not be dictated to by people who have yet to learn the mysteries of the shoelace.

It doesn't matter if we burn their koran or not, any excuse to kill kuffar will do. So , if it makes you feel better, and you wish to assert your first amendment rights I say enjoy yourselves and let that koran , burn, baby, BURN, because they're going destroy churches & murder us anyway.

Pastor Jones has every right to burn the Koran .The bible has been burned, torn to bits and many other things.Did this change the power of the written word? NO! Offending Muslims is a left wing childish concept.May "PISS" be apon them.

There ought to be a National Burn the Koran Day. If thousands burned korans at hundreds of places, the whole muslim world might go berserk. Obama would scream about islamophobia. The generals would whine that we would have to abandon muslim countries. The left would cry about intolerance. And CAIR would invent more hate crimes. I would view there things as both predictable and desirable. It's clear that the burning couldn't be stopped because of constitutional principles. But it would be enjoyable to watch the opposition squirm in attempting to do so. And it will keep the fight against sharia on the front page for quite a while. The name of the game is to draw attention to all the unpleasantries of Islam which the MSM otherwise ignores and conceals.

This shows the foolishness of appeasing islam. The local Christians were good dhimmis condemning Jones yet muslim fascists killed them and burned Bibles anyway.This also shows the sickness of islam, that muslims would riot and kill because a non-muslim in a secular country burned a copy of his own koran.I can think of no other religion which would engaged in such heinous acts.

Sacrifice of human beings for Mo/allah is favorite holy duty of Muslims!!! Nobody can prevent them from performing this ritual - the human beings just pay them back in the same coin!!!

" Extremists also threatened reprisals and other targeted attacks against Christians, if the U.S. government fails to take action against Pastor Jones...."

Hmmmmmmmm,so this seems to confirm that the Quran creates and attracts people predisposed to violence and hatred to kill and riot for the littlest slight at the Quran or Muhammad.
Someone phone CAIR's Mr.Hooper to show him this because the 16'000+ Terrorism acts since 9/11 are mostly linked to the overt common denominator of the "Quran".
This includes the Misunderstanders with a Mental Illness that went unchecked in any Mosque they attended,unless they were seen as normal that only made Jihad threats while others didn't think it would lead to a suicide-boming of unbelievers and other Muslim civilains.

These people are savage children. Minus the arson, murder and rape, one gets much the same result when grounding an unbalanced 10-year old with anger management issues.

Perhaps that post about centries of incest within the muslim world isn't too far off the mark.

I am a Christian, but I would much rather see Terry Jones getting killed than some innocent Pakistani Christians who had nothing to do with this stupid publicity stunt.
It's not a question of burning the stupid quran, it's the predictable consequences: violence, death and mayhem.
Of course, the islamic scum is directly responsible, but if there is any justice, Jones has a lot to answer for. Because of his arrogant action, some people have lost their lives. No good has come out of what he did the other day, on the contrary, as it was to be expected, that incident gave the islamic scum an excuse to run amok and kill people, and that will be on Jones' conscience, whether he likes it or not.
In my humble opinion he's as much of a scumbag, as the murderous islamists.

There is something that the church in the West - and other non-Muslims - have to grasp.

That is: their fellow-believers inside dar al Islam will be used by the Muslims there, as hostages or bargaining chips, in an attempt to make us do what they (the Muslims) want.

So: burn a quran in the USA (having first rationally explained that its contents are evil); and Muslims threaten to kill Christians in Pakistan.

The Muslims are hoping that Christians in the West, who feel sorry for their brethren inside dar al Islam, will refrain from criticising Islam, resisting jihad, or burning Qurans, because of the fear that the Muslims in dar al Islam will abuse (even more than they are already doing) or KILL the Christians inside dar al Islam.

The Muslims are behaving EXACTLY as an extortionist or kidnapper or blackmailer does.

" I have your brother/ sister/ friend here in my dungeon and I am going to torture and/ or kill him or her. If you want him or her to stop screaming and stay alive, then BE QUIET, do NOT criticise, condemn or question the awful things I'm doing, do NOT try to pursue or punish me for my crimes, and give me a lot of money and anything else I want. Now hop to it!"

I hope Rasool Obama the savior of Libya, will send help to the Christians right away...

I hope the left/liberals were watching, what a great example of life under the shariah. I wonder if it's also an example of the muslim rights "Turban Durbin" wants to investigate.

Yay!

Open a Quran (and it might be good to have a copy of the Sira, and a copy of the two main Hadith collections, Bukhari and Muslim, there as well).

Read out loud, nice and slowly, Surah 9, placing particular emphasis on the Verse of the Sword, and also on verse 29, the one that presents the three choices for non-Muslims - conversion to Islam, buying life (maybe...) by paying the jizya punishment/ humiliation blood money/ 'ransom', or...death.

*Then and then only* rip out the pages and burn them.

Read Surah 4: 34, the wife-beating verse. Read it out. Read out some of the stats on domestic violence in Pakistan. *Then* rip out and burn the page that contains that verse.

And so on (there's the verse that describes procedures for divorce, which includes taking-for-granted of child brides).

Move on to Bukhari. Read out the Hadiths about Mohammed's wedding and bedding of little Aisha. Read out some of the news stories from Yemen and Afghanistan and elsewhere, about the use and abuse of child brides in dar al Islam today. Read out the Ayatollah Khomeini's discourse on the subject of how marriage to a ten-year-old girl is 'a divine blessing' and how girls should get their first period in the house of their husband.

Then take the paper on which these things are written, and burn it.

It would be an excellent idea to also download a couple of translations of the legendary 'Pact of Omar', archetype of all the viciously discriminatory 'rules for dhimmis'. (There is also, available online, a version of it which was adapted for use in India, against Hindus).

Print off.

Read out loud, nice and slowly.

At the end of each clause, everyone present shouts - 'No, we won't, you evil bastards!"

Or states that we *will* display wine and pork and we *will* tell our children about the horrible stuff in the Quran and that we *will* retain the right to bear arms and to defend ourselves when Muslims attack us.

And when the hideous 'Pact of Omar' has been read out loud, and absorbed in all its petty nastiness and mean-mindedness...rip it into little tiny pieces and toss the bits into the fire.

Hussein said tonight in his Libya speech that "mosques were destroyed."

Gee, that's too bad.

Does he really expect us to give a damn about that?

So Sarah Palin frightens you too?...She has that effect on liberals especially woman...They are terrified of her...She hunts wild boar with a bowie knife...There is no liberal or Mahoundan alive today that is brave enough do that...A long time ago there was a liberal named Sampson who killed lions with his bare hands, but a liberal woman cut his hair and he ended up pushing a grain grinder...He was the last brave and capable liberal...You really don't have to be afraid of Sarah...as long as you don't act like a wild pig in her presence, you have nothing to fear...

Hello Moderator - could you please remove the evil beast "Jacci" and his evil comments that have ruined this thread?

And then ban him. Disgusting human.

Ladies and gentlemen

observe the material posted by 'jacci', in this thread.

Query.

Is 'Jacci' a counter-jihadist *quoting* samples of the screeching rants of a Mohammedan supremacist, so that we know just exactly what kind of violent and hateful craziness we are dealing with? Or is 'jacci' simply a Mohammedan supremacist baring all for us, straight up?

oy you dirty infidels
is jacci one of you guys
or is he claiming to be be muslim
if you are muslim.. you are not a messenger of allah you idiot

listen muslime!

you are poluting this thread with long copy/pasted bullshit straight from the rapist,pedophile (piss be upon him)almanac.

friendly advise: you've definitely got your ladder leaning against the WRONG wall...we here, know about your mendacious taquiya...

so, since you are a product of 1400+ years of interbreeding, try a variation on this theme:
**DO** be fruitful and multiply! with no partner....
or in other words: "golf, foxtrot, yankee"

Cannibals, not "cannibles"

The Western powers are so strong that they could
make a No-Fly Zone where there are no flies.
How about enforcing a No-Quran Zone ???

jacci if you are muslim
you are committing heresy by saying you are messenger of allah
so please kill your self
you fucking idiot

The strange thing is that Pastor Jones in Florida never burned the Qur'an. So where, exactly, was this Qur'an allegedly burned?

Somehow, I guess that jacci proffers lengthy citations of a Saudi-annotated English translation of the Qur'an--note the glosses, like the one following "Make ready against them steeds of war."

@ Miss Piggy "Because of his arrogant action, some people have lost their lives".
No Miss Piggy,Pastor Jones has nothing to do with the killing of Christians in Pakistan and elsewhere. The killing of Christians,Hindus,Buddhists and pagan Africans has been going on ever since the founding of Islam 1,400 years ago.
Violence,murder and rape are synonymous with Islam.

"(And I have created the jinn and men only to worship Me)."

Q: Why does Muhammad's god put most souls into the wombs of nonmuslim women? Surely this is not the best way for them to become good Muslims.

A: Because the god is much less interested in being worshipped than it is in making those souls suffer in hell.

I can only presume that most of the jinn, too, think that Islam is nonsense and so disdain it.

Isn't just burning a church with all the bibles inside enough retribution for burning a Quran?

I think Jacci either forgot his/her morning nose-snort or else has been drinking watered-down camels' urine. Probably the latter. Take a good glass of the real, Arabian dromedary urine, Jacci; you'll feel a lot better.

Jacci, did I read that you referred to Jesus, one of the prophets of allah that all Muhammadians are to revere. as a "dead Jew’s corpse?" Rotting Half-pig crawling with worms, something along those lines? I'm not up to speed on the blasphemy thing, but according to the koran didn't you just insult allah's prophet? The one that is coming at the end times to break the cross and kill the pigs? I hope that in your exuberance you didn't put yourself in a bit of a pickle with your g-d? I hear he doesn't take too kindly to those that insult his messagers. Oops. You better get to bowing and scrapping, making that raisin on your forehead the size of a cantelope if you have any hope at that Paradise thing. Hope your torment in the grave isn't too bad as a result. Best of wishes when you sleep with the fishes.

You know my dear Jameela MOA, Jesus would love to set you free. You would be free indeed if you allowed Him to. You admit you are a SLAVE to Allah (Satan's alterego) However Jesus came to set you free. God would love to be a loving father to you....a possibility of which you, as a slave obviously have no concept.... Stop for a minute and take a look at the bile you have spilt in this blog, I doubt you are convincing anyone in here that there is any wisdom or veracity in anything you have quoted ...My prayers are also with those of Mr Barile and dumblesdoresarmy and Jesus said that where two or three are gathered in His name He would be in the midst, so He is only too willing to respond...Now it's up to you to take advantage of the offer...God bless you and don't be deceived any longer...

Islamabad (AsiaNews) - Two believers killed, churches attacked, copies of the Bible burned: the Christian community in Pakistan is once again the victim of violence by Islamic fundamentalists, who have targeted places of worship in the country. The extremist violence was triggered by the insane act - repeatedly condemned by Christians in Pakistan and India – of the pastor Wayne Sapp, who last March 20, in Florida burned a Koran under the supervision of the evangelical preacher Terry Jones. The escalating violence has raised alarm over the fate of Asia Bibi, a symbol of the abuses committed in the name of the blasphemy law. The bishop of Islamabad / Rawalpindi defines the US pastor a "fanatic" who encourages followers to a "violent ideology", the consequences of which have an impact "on innocent Christians" across the world.
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"The extremist violence was triggered by the insane act". "Insane act"? Asia News is referring to bar-b-quing a Qu'ran, rather than *murdering Christian* in reprisal.

How *insane* is that?

As to the pastor Terry Jones encouraging a "violent ideology", it must be noted that these are not *his* followers going on a homicidal rampage.

To say his actions will have an impact on innocent Christians across the world is to bizarrely ignore the Muslim fanatics that will threaten those innocent Christians.

More:

In the city The pastor of the church reports that "despite the condemnation of the burning of the Koran" the community "has come under attack because they think that we are linked to the Americans." He emphasizes that "we are Pakistanis, who were born in this land and we do not have any kind of relationship with the United States."
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Infidels are *never* considered full citizens of Muslim nations—and never have been. Muslims also practice collective guilt—the actions of any Infidels are held to be the actions of them all.

This, to, dates back to the 7th-century Pact of Umar—where if any Infidel violated the "protection pact", then the entire community lost its "protection". Thanks to modern communication, the "community" can now mean Infidels anywhere in Dar-al-Islam suffering over the actions of any Infidel on the face of the earth, including in Dar-al-Harb.

More:

In a second incident, the Full Gospel Assembly Church, in the Badami Bagh area of Lahore, was attacked. Again fundamentalists burned the church, threw copies of the Bible into the street and accused the Christians of blasphemy, claiming they found pieces of the Koran, not far from the church...
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Just in case referring to the actions of pastor Jones 5000 miles from Islamabad, they accused the local Christians of "desecrating" the Qu'ran, as well. Lest any readers assume this was specific to this case, it is not. Accusing Infidels of "desecrating the Qu'ran' is as meaningless—and as threatening-as a schoolyard bully going up the short kid and saying "I heard you were talking about my momma".

More:

Meanwhile, the weekend demonstrations were repeated against the burning of the Koran wanted by Pastor Terry Jones in different cities of Pakistan - among other Peshawar, Lahore and Islamabad. The demonstrators, who burned his picture and chanted slogans and chants against the United States, called for the death of U.S. preacher. Extremists also threatened reprisals and other targeted attacks against Christians, if the U.S. government fails to take action against Pastor Jones....
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They want Western governments to censor their own citizens—or even *execute them*—in the face of Muslim threats to captive Infidel populations in their own countries.

God, I hate Islam.

Hello lover of Satan,

Muslims contend that Jews, Christians, and muslims worship the same god, so what's the problem? You are one sick, devil-worshipping freak and I am nauseated by the odious filth copied from the evil qur'an and pasted here. It is more vulgar, heretical, and malevolent than Satan's diary. Go crawl back into your islamic hovel and revel in the rantings of the beast from Hades. You are obviously another insane victim of the islamic disease; poor, pathetic you.

Jacci/Jameela/whatever your name is....

I thought prison inmates were forbidden to use computers or to go to websites like this!

Keep working on that GED so you have some other options when your sentence is up. You'll have to finish 8th grade first, though.

it is inticative Robert... nothing falls outside the scope of the koran.

Jacci, wow youre SO right. thnaks for those 'revelations'.
Robert can now close this site, as the love and goodwill, progressiveness and success of islam is obviously going to prevail.

why is it all just volumes of crap and quoting dogma to you units? what do you say to an athiest like me, who believes scince is mans only hope? who knows youre just a medieval mind stuck in backwards ignorance forever.

as the opening of the article states.. indicative.

no balanced arguments or reasonable discussion.. as always. just rhetoric about the "greatness of god" and the "truth of mohammed". and thats where its all fundamentally flawed. muhummed was a barbaric, sadistic, perverted, bi polar, cruel, cowardly, lying, slave driving, rapist bedouin. he used revenge the way jesus christ used love.

so no youve converted us all, i suppose its time you just .. go away.

***delurk***

Note to moderators from your resident gay leftist: Jacci really needs to be banned. Enough already!!

***relurk***

@jacci
You are one sick sob. Your drivel is so insane, I would guess that your belong to the warped "nation of Islam" cult.

@jacci
You are one sick sob. Your drivel is so insane, I would guess that your belong to the warped "nation of Islam" cult.

yo dimwits his not muslim
if jacci think he is messenger of allah
then he not a muslim
he just a kafir like you lot

Ah I see, how convenient a way to complaint, while we burn the Unholy Scripture that we had to buy with our own money they burn churches that belongs to other?! not that they'll stop burning churches if we stop burning that crap of junk sheets, burning other religion building had been their pass time activity since the time of the demon possessed pedophile muhammad!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-----Jacci, You have really set me athinking. You have enlightened me to the error of my ways and I now want to be JUST LIKE YOU! Your sweet, gentle and loving way has greatly impacted my thinking. The sweet gentleness with which you presented your views has served to convict me of my sin and your love compells me to post the innermost feelings of my heart. How could I have been so deceived to follow this mean Jesus. Its now obvious that your closeness to the one you love, this wonderful Mohamed, has had the most impact on your life and has, no doubt, resulted In you being the most like him that we have ever had on this site! Please do share more of what you have learned from him as you sat at his feet and worshiped him. Is this wonderful man filled with the absolutly funny "F" bombs that you have used? Please share more of his heart. We are all waiting.

Wow! I have to say - some of the comments here lately are juvenile, rude and vile.

Some of the *discussions* have also evolved into petty bickering madness (ie; odd arguments in the Geert Wilders thread).

its rather disheartening to see this happen to such an important site.

@Jacci
"1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2. You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in the heaven above or that is in the earth beneath or that is in the water under the earth....."

So you think because of this two pints you muslime are on the right path? your allah asked you to worship him only as your God, but have questioned who he really is? let me tell you, he is no more than Iblis(Satan) which is a creature without a speck of power at all in this world, and his only weapon has always been LIES! LIES that you can found scattered in every ayat of that abomination unholy qur'an!.

If your allah really is that akbar aks him to punish me if he can! because I never think of him more than a dog turd!

If you feed a pigeon, many more come.

But I like pigeons...

Asswhipe though he is, the corectness ofPastor Jone's talking points is being proven by the denizens of the "religion of peace."

Don't feed the trolls. This jacci goon is not actually reading the pages he is posting on. The strategy is to just post long posts that are irrelevant to the story in the hopes that people will react to that instead of the article or what the other grown ups say.

So lets keep in mind that the article in question is about a bunch of illiterate bloodthirsty pakistanis who murderd two people because some evil bastard told them a single book was burned on the other side of the planet.

The Mouths of Sauron who are causing these murder orgies obviously think it will intimidate western countries because unlike them we care about human life.

Wikileaks released documents saying the Syrian government was the motive force behind the Motoon protests. The government told the priests what to say and the priests got the people worked up.

I posit that if the Pakistani government was not behind these imams, the lot of them would have been in unmarked graves a long time ago.

It could be that this atrocity is meant to give weight to the the OIC's recent shenanigans at the UN.

It could be the Pakistani government is trying to make people angry at christians and America for any number of convoluted reasons.

I wonder whether people who post pro jihad comments are watched by the authorities becos i have seen tons of them in the you tube. This shameless animals are the ones who are goin to be suicide bombers oneday so by pre emptive arrests future suicide attacks can be prevented.I hope the federal agencies monitor and trace out these psychos

I have a hard time taking any religion seriously that says you can go to hell for splashing pee on yourself.

Somebody please tell me why the West keeps pouring financial aid into these Death Eater countries. They hate you for what you are; they despise you for all the good you do for them seeing it as weakness; whatever you do, it can be only wrong in their eyes - so why? They kill people on the daily basis, with or without pretext, it's Orwellian violence for violence's sake. Stop paying them money for behaving as they do.
P.S. Within the last three years, every time I talked to a Muslim about anything and the conversation somehow touched upon politics, the issue of "great demon" USA inevitably emerged at some point, and I was really scared to see how these people, oh-so-polite-and-nice up to this very point, turned into monsters spitting hatred. Like in a vampire movie. It's irrational hatred towards the West and USA as its symbol, which only gets worse no matter what you do or not do, every year. Maybe even every day.

Two Christians killed according to the word of the sadist Allah:

9:5 Kill the infidels wherever ye find them
(#9 s vthe latest dictated chapter of the illiterate pedophile mass murder Muhammad)

WHAT PART OF THE SENTENCE IS IT, OBAMA DOESN'T UNDERSTAND???

2:291 Slay the unbelieves wehrever ye catch them
8:12 I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks (beheading with a knife/sword)
and smite all their finger-tips off them."

Off-topic: latest developments in Egypt, Egypt Air wipes Israel off the map
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/praveenswami/100081394/egypt-air-wipes-israel-off-the-map-a-sign-of-where-egypt-could-be-headed/

Jacci, thank very much for your posts. I do not believe ANYONE else has done as good a job about warning all of us about the bigoted, ignorant, violent, and bloodthirsty character of Islam as you.

Robert, you need to cultivate this Jacci/Jameela person. She graphically underscores everything about which you are trying to warn the West.

The Evil Evangelical Cannibal Kepha sends his regards--even though he believes in neither transubstantiation nor consubstantiation.

"It doesn't matter if we burn their koran or not, any excuse to kill kuffar will do."

From a poster above

RESPONSE: Absolutely right. Someday soon, they'll be rioting and killing because of domestic impediments we've erected against Sharia. This is the problem with appeasement...it never ends.

My admiration for those among you who actually read Jacci's
posts. I simply haven't the patience nor attention span to wade through so much rambling drivel.

Well, we were warned, weren't we? Robert Gates. Hilary Clinton. Obama. Not to mention that bearer of peace, iman rauf, tried to warn us all what would happen if Pastor Jones burned the qu'ran. I guess they weren't kidding.

And since nothing will happen to those miscreants doing the killing and rampaging in muslim quarters throughout the world, we should expect the same kind of outrage the next time someone burns a qu'ran, publishes a carton of mo' or otherwise says or does anything considered inflammatory to the muslim masses (which we see is a very short, very thin line. In short, there will be hell to pay.

Who can blame anyone for not wanting to publish or say anything or do anything that might incite violence. Better to be safe than sorry. Don't you agree?

The free-running associations and expressions we are seeing from "Jacci" are examples of what happens when some Muslims "snap" and, at least temporarily, lose the ability to self-regulate their propaganda.

Note to Jacci: We don't like Islam. We think Islam is a scam, and worse. We won't accept it, ever. Deal with that.

It is best just to ignore Muslim barrows or Muslimas who comment because it only gives them a soap box from which to further rant and lie.

We didn't ask Nazis to explain their views. We just thumped them.

... and should be condemned by Western authorities as the insanity that it is.

But that would come perilously close to calling Islam insanity.

*** 33:21 ***

Which it is. Imagine a belief system that worships a man who was argurably the single worst human being in world history. What a cocktail that makes. Add a splash of vermouth and what you have is... Moslems.

*** 2:216 ***

Shaken, not stirred.

I know it's a bad idea to reply to you, Jacci (don't feed the trolls), but honestly, that last post of yours made me so sad. Hatred of that intensity is a heavy burden to carry. Jesus Christ said 'come to me, you who are weary, and I will give you rest. For my burden is light'. Muhammad weighs you down with numerous heavy demands, but the Bible says 'the joy of the Lord will be your strength'.

You are in need of the grace of God. Whatever has happened to you, trust in Him and 'He will wipe every tear from your eye'. The Bible says so.

God bless you and make you His child. You can talk to Him anytime, anywhere, any language.

And please stop spamming this website.

you really have the god bug, eh?

Jacci.

this site is about crimes against humanity in the name of a specific religion called islam. not a forum for medieaval superstition, spoilt child behaviour or meaningless koranic rhetoric. you are pissing into the wind. you can rant and rave at your family, your slaves and christians in the town square. but as a whole, youre a backwards person living in an age of enlightenment. youre a sorry, antiquated figure who holds hatred and the mysticism of the writings of a sick man very dear. you have nothing to contribute to this world except a very genetically limited outlook and a very twisted view of life.

intead of boring us with your straw clutching, tell me the great achievments of the islamic world that have benefitted manking in history. tell me one. then i might listen.

otherwise, go away. go kill yourself. you are insignificant and irrelevent. a peasant and a mental case. ignorant and childlike. insecure and what we would term a sissy.

Jacci is not here to debate or answer question, he is here to spam his hate religion of islam and then run back into his rathole to hide.

Don't you have a car bomb to go build?

I nominate Jacci as the first witness to be called in Turban Durbin's hearings on the persecution of practitioners of the "religion of peace and mercy".

I'm surprised that Jacci is still around...Generally spammers with long winded posts about nothing, get bounced...He's a good candidate for bouncing...

What the Pakistani Muslims are doing by killing random Christians in this case is like a classic hostage-taking scenario. It's a tactic, a part of a larger strategy. They are obviously trying to get control over what American Christians like Terry Jones (and the rest of us, Christian or otherwise) are doing and saying about Islam, so they kill the "hostage" Christians in Pakistan and make this known to the media. It's terrorism. Muhammad engaged in it, and these Pakistani Muslims are following him. It seems obvious that what they're aiming for is to provoke American authorities, media, politicians, etc., to come down hard on Jones and others who criticize Islam in public. The Pakistani Muslims are not only trying to enforce their Islamic blasphemy law within their own borders, but, like most Muslims, they want it imposed worldwide, on non-Muslims. These Pakistani Muslim jihadists want people to react like Miss Piggy did, or like Obama, et al., did previously when Jones merely "threatened" to burn Qur'ans.

The Pakistani Muslims in this case are not merely out of control crazies, but rather are acting with cold calculation, tactically and strategically, to increase the grip of Islamic blasphemy laws and taboos on non-Muslims. I also suspect much of the exaggerated display of anger in front of the media is theater, hysterics, sham. I suspect the underlying rage and hatred is real--they have, after all, imbibed the Qur'an and Islam since birth--but the actions are cold and calculated.

In Islam, Muslims aren't allowed to tolerate such blasphemy. They are considered in danger of hell-fire if they fail to act against it, when they have the power to do so. Muslims are required to get control over the non-Muslims. They are required to wage jihad, violent and/or non-violent, against disbelief and disbelievers, until Islam rules.

All the Qur'an you need to know -

Quran 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Jacci, Thanks again for coming. We all, collectivly, reach around with our left hand and scratch our posteriors and then raise them toward you to wave "buh bye", some using a single digit to do the waveing. Some of us will actually continue to pray to the one true God for your deliverence from the demons of this death cult. I personally believe you are now, or have been in prison, and I pray that you be delivered from a belief system that will keep you in a horrible torture pit in solitary confinement for all eternity.

Wow, as I read some of your comments, can't you just feel the love? One of the sayings of Jesus is "do unto others as you would have others do unto you". If muslims want to be treated with respect and want the Quran to be treated with respect, its time to stop all this kind of nonsense. I remember a few years ago a historic church in Bethlehem was taken over by Palestinians and pages of the Bible were used as toilet paper. Also, the interior of the church was severely damaged. If Christians had acted against a mosque in this manner the blood would still be running. The Bible also says you reap what you sow. It will require that muslims change the way they treat others. By the way, I think burning copies of the Koran violates the tenets of Christianity. It certainly is a childish and immature way to behave. (sorry about the earlier post, hit the wrong button)

Boy oh boy this thread has definitely gotten out of hand. It proves my point that all religions are dangerous. Many are just one nut-job away from becoming radicalized.
As for you Jacci, I am quite sure Homeland Security has already back traced your IP address and is watching you if you are in the US. Better keep looking over your sholder

. .''all religions are dangerous. Many are just one nut-job away from becoming radicalized''. .
Well, for all it's worth, what is there to suppose that you yourself would never become 'radicalized' in the name of what you believe in, even if that entails defending only yourself?

Is it any wonder why non Muslims around the world are fearful of committing any act, word or deed, whatsoever that can be remotely construed by these fanatical barbarians as critical of their precious "religion?"

This pain and suffering will eventually have to go both ways before this strategy of intimidation through barbarism and fear is defeated. Muslims will have to eventually understand reciprocity, of the most vicious, bloody, painful kind before they cease and desist perhaps for another few hundred years.

The West must understand that submission will not end the hostility, the hate, especially for Israel and America. That hate is built in to Islam, hate for ALL infidels of any nationality, culture, race, gender, religious belief or disbelief other than Islam, for long before any event the West struggles to identify and apologize profusely for. No apology or compensation of any kind will be accepted and this feckless, clueless policy of appeasement is having exactly the opposite of the expected effect of ultimate acceptance and an end to the senseless violence. It reeks of weakness and only emboldens the fanatic and serves to strengthen his belief in the superiority of his character, intelligence, strategy and desire for death in a holy war and immediate ascendance to paradise; the “promise” of Islam is not a better life but a better death, if you die in the service of Allah. More terror is not the result of Western aggression it is a result of the West’s inability to come to grips with the threat it faces. We are in the latter stages of a religious war against Islam and will ultimately be defeated if we cannot recognize it. Nine Eleven was not a beginning of hostilities it was an escalation in an ongoing battle that we're losing.

We have fallen into a very clever trap in Iraq, Afghanistan and now Libya, spent too much American blood and capital attempting to fulfill a Western misconception that all people, everywhere, crave the Western version of freedom and democracy. Surveys in the major Islamic countries of the Middle East and elsewhere indicate an overwhelming majority want a version of an Islamic theocracy based on Sharia law which demands the death of the infidel, yet we persist in our futile efforts, spilling American blood and American capital, unable to face squarely the facts based on the glaring evidence before us. An enemy that is not understood or recognized cannot be defeated. The threat of Islam remains beyond the realm of Western understanding. Fear of Islam is not Islamophobia. It is a rational fear based on a realistic assessment of the malevolent words and violent deeds openly spoken and committed by Muslims around the world. This, in Pakistan, is but another one of many that will be largely unnoticed or labeled the work of some fringe, anti-Christian minority; no big deal. When will we wake up and smell the stink weed.

A high profile percieved insult to Muhammadians leads to dead Christians at their hand. The media spreads the telling of this slight without a shred of regret, knowing full well that innocents will be slaughtered. Amoral reporting is their bread and butter and let the chips fall were they may. What gets my goat is the media demonizes Jones for his action yet the media holds itself above reproach for the carnage it fosters in the reporting of a hot button event. The event leads to articles and opinion pieces of the horrorific aftermath, chuck full of fingerpointing and moral judgements. What a wonderful business model. Purposely act in ways that prompt others to bring destruction on their fellow man, and then judge them mercilessly for it. It matters little their own hands are dripping in the bloodbath they spawned. I get it, just don't tell me in the instance of the Jones affair you have provided a vital public service. There are enough Muhammadians getting pissed off all by themselves. Their cult has that already built-in. They don't need prompting.

I have tried to come up with some type of comparison to describe Islamic animalism. They are like a stampeding herd of cattle or buffalo. Ask any individual cattle or buffalo why they are all stampeding. Mindlessly running and running because someone or something set them off. Except these mindless emotional reject Islamic animals are set off by an imam. They have been so brainwashed they will only follow the chants and fatwa’s of the imam. If they had any reasoning left they would see how utterly evil these killing acts were. It is like trying to understand a possessed Zombie or a mad man.

Unfortunately, we all know the result when the mind of man digresses to that of an animal. With Islam there is no moral attributes of human society as we know it in the Western world. Masses of sub-human terrorists filling the streets with mindless people who are driven by the ideology of hate called Islamic teaching. The real goal is subjection of all people to Islamic control and Sharia rule. And the mindless killing of all unbelievers.

We shall soon find out how stupid we were in Libya. For the only way to control these mindless savages is by a dictator. And we must realize that occasionally, the dictator must kill a few savages who would destroy everything and anything in their path. The dictator must subjugate the terrorists to the rule of law and kill or arrest any who will not conform. I am not a history buff, but history is on the side of stopping terrorism in its tracks. Our Obamination has once again backed the wrong side, the terrorists.

We shall soon see the killing of all non-believers in a massive orgy of blood by Islamists. It has already started. I hope it will wake the rest of the world out of its slumber before it becomes worldwide.

((((("but I would never expect that a blog which, after all [...] can ever “get out of hand" ")))))

"out of hand" were not my words. But I remain in agreement with the poster who said them. And your vitriol ie; suggesting that someone "go kill" himself, is a perfect example.

((((("I think you do underestimate the intelligence of an average newcomer.")))))

There is no such thing as an "average newcomer". They come in all shapes & sizes and possess varying levels of knowledge. With the misinformation-infestation of the media, and the well-funded, well-orchestrated campaign to discredit our good anti-jihadists... a lack-of-knowledge of some newcomers isn't necessarily a measure of their "intelligence".

(((((("Newcomers don’t come here to learn what is going on. It is the other way around. Most come here because they do already know what is going on and [...]")))))

People happen in, for the first time, for all kinds of reasons... some, for only one example, because I've sent them a link to a particular article that Robert has posted. And some, like many people I see and work with every day, haven't the slightest clue what's going on. They are busy, working, taking classes, taking care of their kids, etc. They only know what the left-controlled media wants them to know.

((((("There is a hypothetical possibility that some will be turned off and run back to CNN, but")))))

Case in point.

((((( "than who needs them anyway.")))))

I do. Our good freedom-fighters do. We need as many new people in our corner as we can get.

((((("but I would never expect that a blog which, after all [...] can ever “get out of hand" ")))))

"out of hand" were not my words. But I remain in agreement with the poster who said them. And your vitriol ie; suggesting that someone "go kill" himself, is a perfect example.

((((("I think you do underestimate the intelligence of an average newcomer.")))))

There is no such thing as an "average newcomer". They come in all shapes & sizes and possess varying levels of knowledge. With the misinformation-infestation of the media, and the well-funded, well-orchestrated campaign to discredit our good anti-jihadists... a lack-of-knowledge of some newcomers isn't necessarily a measure of their "intelligence".

(((((("Newcomers don’t come here to learn what is going on. It is the other way around. Most come here because they do already know what is going on and [...]")))))

People happen in, for the first time, for all kinds of reasons... some, for only one example, because I've sent them a link to a particular article that Robert has posted. And some, like many people I see and work with every day, haven't the slightest clue what's going on. They are busy, working, taking classes, taking care of their kids, etc. They only know what the left-controlled media wants them to know.

((((("There is a hypothetical possibility that some will be turned off and run back to CNN, but")))))

Case in point.

((((( "than who needs them anyway.")))))

I do. Our good freedom-fighters do. We need as many new people in our corner as we can get.

Ye olde Nazi tactic. Kill one, control one hundred. Kill one thousand, control one million. It's all about control.

Ye olde Nazi tactic. Kill one, control one hundred. Kill one thousand, control one million. It's all about control.

if any mohommedian tries to put any point across on the "virtues of islam" or what the koran says in relation to ... anything.. i WILL flame them for all its worth. how dare this bastard even show his presence? how dare he try to present islam as correct, rational or an entity worthy of anything but utter contempt.

how dare this person offend me with their backwards, cruel, uncomprimising theology?

these "newcomers" touting the religion of peace will be crucified on here by me, mercilessly..if there is any forum that people can tell moslems exactly what they are, this is it. i don't take the teachings of child molesting scum very well at all.

How long is that going to be the rationalization (there is no excuse) for hateful murder because they are non-Muslims?

typo correction: "funding non-Muslim minority groups there to help them pay for security,"

It is very wrong that those evil pakistani people get angry at someone, and go and hurt and kill someone else! Those people act very foolish because it is their stupid and evil behavior and actions that cause many to dislike muslims and then want nothing to do with them; let alone, want them to be here in our country. If they behave like uncivil people; how can anyone want them? It would be good if the good Muslim people would distance themselves from the jihadists who behave horribly and call themselves by a different name.
As we see some of their behavior and how they behave; it is very troubling. How is it possible that they have no respect for women and how is it that they literally hide themselves by covering their heads whenever they do their evil deeds?and worse yet; they claim that they do it in name of God: They are truly misguided, evil men! That is a cowardly thing that they do and they think that it makes them look very mighty and brave: that is disgusting and God will punish them. God Bless America.