Rauf explains how "radicalization" happens, insulting Muslims in the process by implying they have no self control


This television appearance (thanks to Awake) is not the first time Rauf has turned the prospect of Muslim rage into a veiled threat against those who speak critically of Islam or behavior by Muslims, and implied that Muslims cannot control themselves in response.

Note how, in his remarks below, "radicalized" Muslims are only reactors to provocations. It is automatic, and it is always the West's fault. Essentially, his argument depends on the idea of a one-way, almost gravitational pull by which all supposed "extremism" swirls -- "spirals," he says -- into what he ultimately portrays as an insensible hive of easily enraged drones who have no free will, and no self-restraint to keep from escalating the situation from words to physical violence.

It's not Islam... it's The Spiral.

In his attempts to defend Islam, he finds it necessary to insult the intelligence of his co-religionists. Where's the outrage about that? A transcription of his comments on radicalization follows below.

(1:16) "It's a cycle. The radicals fuel each other and feed on each other. So when something happens like this, it arouses hostility among the other, the non-Muslim community. You have a Christ[ian]- evangelical leader, for example who says Islam is an evil religion. That becomes the banner headline in the Muslim world, both domestically, and more important, overseas. It arouses hostility there. The Danish cartoon -- the Danish paper commissions cartoons. It creates hostility in the Muslim world. People in the West begin to say, oh, look, there's no freedom of speech, and you create this cycle, this spiral. It is this spiral that we have to stop.

A call to curtail free speech:

"If you really want to understand how, what creates radicalization, is the radical extremist discourse that comes from all sides. And this is what we have to stop."
(2:30) "Terrorism in all its stripes, and what fuels Islamic terrorism is extremism and terrorism and radical ideologies from all sides."

"Extremism and terrorism and radical ideologies," oh my!

Martin Bashir, to his credit, appears to be having none of it.

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Muslims don't have self control? Then if, indeed that is the case they should be protected, in secure locations, for their own, and everyone else's safety. I think the general term for a secure location could be called a zoo.

Self-Control? Of course they do have self-control. This is precisely why they put their women in these garbage bags!
The burka featured in the carnival in Dusseldorf, Germany.
The Garbage Bag!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/03/garbage-bagsac-ordures.html

Rauf lies so much I wonder how he manages to lie straight in bed at night.

This creep should be locked up in Gitmo instead of spiraling out of control on TV.

Slimy slumlord Rauf has no problem with the hate projected by Islam in their texts towards non Muslims everyday as they blow up and burn churches and synagogues all over the middle east, as they threaten America and Israel everyday, as they are murdering Christians in Egypt as I write this. No this clown looks at Americans as the creators of violence among Muslims.

What he is really saying: As Americans you are not allowed to criticize Islam and if you do you will feel their wrath. He actually tries to justify Islam as having the right to be angry with America and the West, but Islam should be exempt from being criticized because it is blashphamy towards the teachings of Mohamed and we as Muslims cannot allow this.

Muslims are self-renewing matchsticks.

Salah:
I saw the video, smiled and laughed. Hopefully, we can harness German humour and their oft demonstrated energy to our cause.

You looked at me in a wrong way! yelled the bully as he was beating his hapless victim. Islam is the bully here. ANY THING done by nonmuslims becomes an excuse for violence by these evildoers, because there is NO Holy Spirit to impart gentleness love and SELF CONTROL in these wretched followers of Muhammed. Hence the death spiral of hummanity under the influence of the religion of "piece(s)".

spiral jihad....it is so clear...

Unfortunately it is probably true that Muslims can't control themselves and have no free will. Their brainwashing ensures that they are programmed to become mobotic clones of a long-dead psychopath, emulating his behavior in entirely predictable ways. Islam destroys judgement and conscience producing murderous automotons. The results appear with mechanical predictability when you press their RAGE button. http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/islamic-ethics-and-golden-rule.html

how many buddhist, jian, christian, days, "of rage" do you
see?
with islam in ANY protests do you see anything else?
to say islam has a "lack of control" is a understatement of gargantuan proportions.

you know, & i just wish, that when rauf leans forward to do his "usual" bambi eyed man of peace drone,(that usually contain his biggest "whoppers":-),that the interviewer would lean forward too, and whisper yes & your nose is growing :-D

after all, "its the right thing to do" eh! rauf, the original crooked man, who wanted his crooked house :-)

Martin Bashir, as someone of Pakistani-Christian heritage, has more spine on this issue than the average dhimmi journalist.

pulsar182:
You said:
"spiral jihad....it is so clear..."
I have described something similar in an area related to my name:
"the death vortex"

We have all kinds of loonies of all kinds of religions saying all kinds of nasty things about all kinds of other religions, yet we don't see members of most of these religions going around blowing each other up. Killing people because some people said your religion sucks is wrong. Period.

Whine for us, why don't you, Rauf! Rauf!

The following quote was made at 2:40 minutes
“Sayid Qutb wrote an important book which influenced and informed and educated people like Osama bin Laden. This is the ideology which then fuels extremism.”

Too bad that Martin Bashir was not quick enough to ask why the book written by one of the important framers of the Muslim Brotherhood was so important that it could influence and educate people. He could have opened the can of worms that Rauf was flirting with and revealed the driving force behind the uncontrollable Muslim rage.

Spiral.

The Black Spiral.

Black Spiral Dancers. Yes, there we are, there's another reference to Muslims in fiction: insane slaves to a demonic master.

Interesting. I am the grandson of German refugees and grew up around people with blue numbers tatooed on their forearms. I have faced prejudice, from verious angles, throughout my life; yet, I have never joined a terrorist group, shot a German, or claimed victim status for myself or anyone in my family.

When was the last time you heard of a Jew joining an organization to work havoc against anti-Semites?

(1:16) "It's a cycle. The radicals fuel each other and feed on each other. So when something happens like this, it arouses hostility among the other, the non-Muslim community. You have a Christ[ian]- evangelical leader, for example who says Islam is an evil religion. That becomes the banner headline in the Muslim world, both domestically, and more important, overseas. It arouses hostility there. The Danish cartoon -- the Danish paper commissions cartoons. It creates hostility in the Muslim world. People in the West begin to say, oh, look, there's no freedom of speech, and you create this cycle, this spiral. It is this spiral that we have to stop.
..................................

"It is this spiral that we have to stop."

Muslims are insanely violent. Infidels take notice. This further enrages Muslims, and causes more Muslim violence.

Good God.

More:

"If you really want to understand how, what creates radicalization, is the radical extremist discourse that comes from all sides. And this is what we have to stop."
..................................

Let's see—the "radical extremist discourse" from Islam consists of calls to murder Infidels. The "radical extremist discourse" from Infidels is calling Islam "an evil religion" for calling for such violence.

See? It's all "radical extremist discourse". sarc/off

More:

A call to curtail free speech
..................................

Yes, indeed. If only we'd refrain from saying anything negative about Islam—as is codified under Shari'ah—then we'd be safe.

Just ask the Infidels of Pakistan, or Nigeria, or Egypt...or maybe not...

Cannot remember a muslim, discussing islam in America, who did not imply a threat should islamic views be accepted. Rauf can dance between he rain drops with the best of them. Islam does not reason, it declares with finality that mohammad's god allah and mohammad's book koran are the basis of civilization.

That central premise--Allah and Mohammad's book as the basis of civilization--with its unbounded claims and assertions fanatically applied creates a spiral descent into negation of everything worth anything by any objective standard. Irresistable spiral, indeed. It's analogous to an astrophysical Black Hole, inasmuch as it's a metaphysical Void that effaces the humanity of its devotees and devalues humankind as a whole.

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