Afghanistan: American servicewomen encouraged to wear hijab to get closer to the local population

This will do the trick, all right. The Afghans will forget that the Americans are dirty kuffar and lay down their arms.

Military dhimmitude: "Don’t forget your hijab, soldier! American servicewomen encouraged to wear headscarves in Afghanistan," by Caroline May for The Daily Caller, March 31 (thanks to Jack):

In an effort to get closer to the local population, American female soldiers stationed in Afghanistan are being encouraged to wear a Muslim headscarf when interacting with civilians. But some question whether the practice constitutes cultural sensitivity or a form of appeasement that is degrading to U.S. soldiers.

Gee, that's a tough one.

Major Kyndra Rotunda, executive director of the Military Law and Policy Institute and AMVETS Legal Clinic, told The Daily Caller that while the women are not being ordered to wear the head scarf, encouragement is tantamount to a demand.

“They say they are encouraging women to wear the headscarf when they are out and about and on patrol. But the problem is — and I think anyone who has been in the military understands that being encouraged to do something is about the same thing as being ordered — it really puts them in an uncomfortable position when their commander says, ‘We really want you to do this, technically you don’t have to, but we really want you to do this,’” she said.

Lt. Col. Michael Lawhorn, a U.S. Central Command spokesman, stressed to TheDC that while commanders are encouraging American women to wear headscarves while engaging with civilians, they are not having them wear the headscarf in lieu of their kevlar helmets.

“Nobody is saying, ‘Okay as we head out onto this dangerous street, you wear a hijab instead of your kevlar helmet,’” Lawhorn said. “As women are on some of these engagement teams and they are going to go into places where are going to predominantly be dealing with other women, like giving them medical information or finding out their concerns are in the local community. Local commanders are encouraging them — not demanding, but encouraging — if they feel more comfortable — ‘Feel free to wear a headscarf.’”

Rotunda remained unconvinced, telling TheDC that helmets are always the preferred head wear among soldiers.

“Even if it is outreach, you never know what to expect. You really should be wearing your kevlar helmet, it is a safety issue,” she said....

Uh, yeah.

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Cut their clits off as well.

This is all backwards....

Surely the locals want to get closer the Americans who liberated them from the taliban.

Therefore the locals should stop wearing headscarfs.

but one thing i don't understand is that if they are going to be with predominately women are they suggesting the need to cover up to protect them from predatory lesbians? Stupidity in western leaders can be so confusing for the sensible majority...

Local commanders are encouraging them — not demanding, but encouraging — if they feel more comfortable — ‘Feel free to wear a headscarf.'

Encouraging to 'feel free...' to set the clocks back 50 years. How about encouraging the local women to simply 'feel free'.

Sean, you said:
"Cut their clits off as well."
You're ahead of yourself. Scarves will be followed by camo pattern burquas.

Off Topic Off Topic

Muslims may be “citizens”, but on paper only, sometimes referred to as passport citizens. This is in sharp contrast to practising citizens, that is, those citizens whose 'sense of life' derives from living and loving the country which they live in, or is already quite similar to the 'sense of life' they knew in their indigenous countries. Europeans fit in with us very well for the latter case as do the Japanese. For more on 'sense of life', see http://www.importanceofphilosophy.com/Esthetics_SenseOfLife.html.
Since Islam is all-encompassing and all-demanding, Muslims cannot gain the general 'sense of life' predominant in the host country, for to do so, would be to weaken their Islamism; they are citizens of Islam.
Leftist/liberals of the new type are guilty of practising alchemy, the goal being to turn lead into gold through the catalysts of education, participation, by example, understanding, through multiculturalism and fawning respect for all narratives. It often works with other races/nationalities but in the case of Muslims, this must needs be a failure, because they already consider themselves to be 24 karat gold. Rather, Muslims insist that we be alchemized and those who refuse to do so are to be melted down into lead earplugs for the musicians of the world.
The leftist/liberals, social/utopian engineers that they are, will say that we, of the Western persuasion, 'somehow' failed the Muslims and that we must further pervert our ideals beyond recognition, that is, into anti-ideals, in order to make the alchemy work. Well, no matter what we do, our alchemy ain't gonna work. Our fear is that their alchemy will prevail.
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On sense of life I will provide one quote:
"Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."
Henry Van Dyke quotes (American short-story writer, poet and essayist, 1852-1933)
For me, the ideal 'sense of life' for the Westerner is this statue of Icarus:
http://www.andevan.com/browseproducts/-Icarus-.html

The dudes running the Pentagon have consistently wreaked FUBAR when it comes to Moslems. The Norfolk mosque, Ft Hood, Beirut, you name it.

This is what happens when you go to war to fight an unnamed enemy with no definition of victory. However, when the citizens in the homeland can't recognize the reality they've had imposed on them, nor can the troops operating in in Dar al-Islam.

To keep balance, Prez Barack Hussein should issue an Executive Order that all females in America must wear at least a hijab, on pain of a Gross MisDEMEANor. That'd at least keep all of the welfare mooch imported Moslems happy in Rep Keith Ellison's congressional district.

"How about encouraging the local women to simply 'feel free'."

Absolutely. Very well said.

I forgot to add to my Off Topic post:
A sense of life that allows for the expression of the human spirit and mind. Contrast that with Islam.

To quote some farmer:
"Maybe the Moslems have finally gotten to me."

Still laughing about that one, APF.

With the Army's admonitions to "train as you fight" this can only mean one thing.....they are training female soldiers to accept defeat, slavery, submission, enforced ignorance, dhimmitude, imprisonment and despair. Sharia is coming to a democracy near you soon, ladies, so you might as well get used to it right now.

This capitulation to those who (as another member so delightfully phrased it) "have yet to learn the mysteries of the shoelace" will also have an effect on the male soldiers. It sows the seeds of doubt. It sends a message that the commanders who generated and/or support this policy believe that these backward barbarians are superior to us and we must adopt their superior(retching) "culture". It will erode the spirit of teamwork that is so vital to a successful military. Uniforms "unite" people. That is one of the reasons we wear them. This hijab policy is clearly devisive amongst the ranks.

Besides, the last thing I need to worry about in a firefight is my hijab getting caught up in a belt-fed weapon! I sure as hell don't want that on my tombstone in Arlington!

Wake up male soldiers....you'll be next. Maybe a tag of yellow cloth so the Afghans can easily identify the Jewish soldiers in our ranks? Please stand with us on this issue.

(Still wincing at Sean's tongue-in-cheek comment, LOL!)

There are a lot of dumb ideas out there. No shortage of that. But then, I would have to say in sphere of dumbness, this one really stands out.
There is no need to inflict sub standard dress on females who serve their country.
Shall we soon expect our military men to carry white flags to get closer to muslims?

How close is close?...Yer out of uniform soldier...Silly...
How can anyone take a silly military seriously?

There are a lot of dumb ideas out there. No shortage of that. But then, I would have to say in sphere of dumbness, this one really stands out.

I think this quote from Mark Twain adequately sums up this policy and its supporters. "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right."

Where is Zeus when you need him?

Hijabs symbolize a belief that man has no free will to resist temptation, that women are temptresses, that women are walking vaginas, that women are property, so WHAT THE HELL would a female American soldier want to fight and die for if we have already capitulated to this symbol of the enemy's evil ideology?

Multiculturalism rears it ugly and perverted head again. Yep discard who you are and try to appease the Muslim population.

God! we must look weak to them when we do things like that.

I'm not sure why the Daily Caller is just now picking this up, as retired Air Force Colonel Martha McSally wrote the following article in February:

http://www.statesman.com/opinion/mcsally-should-our-uniform-adapt-to-their-culture-1273984.html

McSally is the A-10 pilot who sued Rumsfeld ten or so years ago over being forced to wear an abaya when off base in Saudi Arabia.

And, to the best of my knowledge, American miltary personnel guarding "the worst of the worst" at Guantanamo Bay are still required to don clean, white gloves before handling a Muslim detainee's taxpayer provided Qur'an:

Gonzo Gitmo Charade
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2005/jun/09/20050609-092940-3178r/

Clueless, clueless, clueless.

I expect that the policy of encouraging women to wear hijabs is another attempt to put lipstick on the pig of our Afghanistan policy.

We are operating there on the fiction that we are only supporting the local will. The actual Afghani police and military range from neutral to hostile, so the policy makers are grasping at straws, pandering for praise by our so-called ally, President Karzi and his administration of thugs, drug-runners, and profiteers.

I consider our brave and loyal soldiers in Afghanistan (and anywhere) to be the very best this nation has to offer, and it makes me see red that they have to serve in an ill-considered war headed by an administration characterized by vague and fuzzy strategic thinking.

As long as they are Hermes or Chanel scarves, I am OK with it...

not all muslim women wear hijab, and there is nothing wrong with wearing it, its the choice of the woman who wants to wear it or not.

I beg to differ, there usually isn't any "choice" involved

Well, do guys have to "wear" a beard ?!

"where are going to predominantly be dealing with other women, like giving them medical information or finding out their concerns are in the local community"

If these people don't want to interact with the military gone there to help them because they're not dressed to their liking, then they're not in shit deep enough and they only have stay in it some more...

But some question whether the practice constitutes cultural sensitivity or a form of appeasement that is degrading to U.S. soldiers.
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*Ya think?*

I remember reading a deeply depressing story from the First Gulf War. Two female American soldiers had just arrived in Saudi Arabia a short time previously. This was their first liberty, and they had heard that there was an ice cream shop nearby that was very friendly to Americans. They thought going would be fun—and it would give them a welcome chance to meet some of the locals.

It was a scorching hot day, somewhere in the region of 120 degrees—so they were looking forward to that ice cream.

When they arrived, they were told that they would have to get a man to order for them. Mortified, the two women retreated to the parking lot. Eventually, two male soldiers came by, and they sheepishly asked them if they would order for them.

They happily did so. The women, understanding little of what they were up against, now assumed that they could enter the cool shop and eat their ice cream at a table. They were driven back out by the angry shopkeeper, who made them understand that his shop was *male only*. For the first time, the women realized that there were *no women or children in the shop*—which would have been very odd for an ice cream parlor outside of Dar-al-Islam.

At first, the male soldiers said they would eat their ice cream in the parking lot with the women. It quickly got too uncomfortable, though, and the men apologetically went to finish their ice cream in the shop.

Out in that shadeless parking lot, their ice cream was reduced to a sloppy liquid in under a minute.

The women returned to their base, and never ventured off base again as long as they were stationed there.

I remember how upset I was at reading this story—even though there was a lot about Islam that I didn't understand at the time.

I knew these soldiers had been gratuitously humiliated by *people who had asked for their help*. I knew their status had likely been lowered even in the eyes of their fellow soldiers—even if, like the guys at the ice cream shop, they were sympathetic to them.

We should *never* adopt Muslim norms. To impose this—even if it is supposedly "voluntary"-on the women of our own fighting forces is both repulsive and suicidal.

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