Human Rights Commission of Pakistan: Last year was bad for Hindus and Sikhs, and "all indications suggest that there are even worse times ahead"

I agree.

I'm for population exchange - Pakistani non-Muslims to India, Indian Muslims to Pakistan, except those who are true Indian patriots and not very Islamic. It will secure the lives and future of those minorities now living in Pakistan and stabilize India for future generations. There was already a population exchange when Pakistan was carved to make the "Land of the Pure", but they just seem to want to go on "purifying", which doesn't offer much of a future to dirty kuffar there.

But does the Indian political establishment have the will to propose a population exchange? Also would the Pakistanis agree to willingly letting go of their hostages who they so like to flaunt as proof of Islams peace and tolerance?

It would be good if non-Muslims of Bangladesh and Pakistan (Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Jews) move to India and Muslims of India move to Pakistan.

Keep in mind that India is the only place ruled by Muslims that was never converted to Islam while the native religions and cultures of Iran, Iraq, Turkey, North Africa and Central Asia were totally obliterated. It takes only 3 generation for a people to forget a culture. The Muslims view India and Hindus as the "unfinished business of Islam."

Indians should fight back the Islamic hordes. If Indians realize their collective soul, the same soul that illustrious names in Indian past like Ashoka, Chandragupta, Chanakya, Arjuna possessed, I have no doubt they will push Islam back towards Pakistan, Iran and then further back to the Arabian peninsula where it can be effectively quarantined. The Europeans could take care of North Africa.

But there isnt much time left. Muslims in India have gone from 9% to 15% and maybe even more. Hindus have declining birthrate, while Muslims have 4-7 children from their four wives and refuse to adopt family planning. They dont even have the same civil code for God's sake. Muslims in India are in fact a pampered minority.

I am afraid for the future of India. While a millennium of Islamic plunder and slavery did not achieve the total conversion of the Hindus, the Muslim women's womb soon will.

while the Hindus and sikhs from porkiestan will be welcomed in india, but the indian muslims will not be welcomed in porkiestan. as we know those indian muslims who did go to porkiestan during the partition are looked down upon and discriminated against. The porkies expect the indian muslims to stay in india and eventually take it over through a high birth rate and conversions.

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India is short on space, so it should by all means do that, but only do that after it has expelled the 150m Muslims that it has to Pakistan or Bangladesh - their choice. Once it's done that, then yeah, take in all Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Jews, and so on. But not Ahmadiya, Shia and other Muslim sects in Pakistan that are on the receiving end.

Desidude is right - Pakistan expects Indian Muslims to Islamize India - a task made easier by those traitors Nehru & Gandhi. So it will take riots in India to force Muslims out. Maybe start by expelling them to Mecca under the pretext of a haj, and not take them back. Then tell Saudi Arabia to talk it w/ Pakistan.

Look at India ! It was invaded by Islamic barbarians for 400 years ! When apostle of peace Gandhi started winning the independence race , in 1940 , against the British the Muslim population cunningly started asking for a Muslim majority state !Till then , for almost 20 yearsn they allowed Gandhi to fight the case for a "United India"! This was given to them by the British in the form of a 100% Islamic state of Pakistan which is today a rouge Islamic state troubling not only India & USA through Al-Quaida but also the rest of the peaceful world ! Muslims did not stop at that ! Due to the madness of Gandhi and Nehru a large chunk ( about 7% of remaining India's polpulation) of Muslims remained back in India by giving them a false promise of "secularism" and "peaceful co-existence" in India. Look what has happened to India ! Its 7% Muslim population has grown up to 15% ! With this large population oh Mohammadens in India we are facing everyday thefts, rapes and internal terrorism by these Muslims ! Their educated youngsters are active members are sleeper units of Al-Quaida such as SIMI ( Students Islamic Movement in India ) and HUJI both deadly terrorist organisation financed liberally by the petro-dollar money from Saudi Arabia, U.A.E. and Qatar ! There is a huge illegal migration of Muslims from Bangla Desh into Eastern states of West-Bengal & Assam thereby totally changing the religious demography of those two states. Islamic terrorists are active on both neighbouring country borders of Bangla Desh & Nepal ! On the western front there is Islamic Pakistan whose one wing of Army called ISI is in charge of training terrorists against India and giving refuge to dreaded terrorists like Dawood Ibrahim and organisation like Lashkar-e-Taiba ! The former organised the 1992-93 Mumbai bombing where 260 people died and the latter organised the 2008 Mumbai terrorist attack in which over 200 people died ! With help from the int-Indian agents from neighbouring Islamic Pakistan and Arabic petro-dollar deposits in secret Swiss bank accounts the 65-year ruling Indian political party "Congress" ( headed for first 25 years by Nehru and later till date by his family members ) supported the Muslims of India for the sake of their "vote bank" winning elections in India and remaining in power for 60 out of 65 years of independence of India ! While INdia's Muslim birth rate is "Inshallah" much higher than the majority Hindu population who only have adopted the population control methods unlike the Muslims ! In last 65 years while India's majority population has decreased by 2% , in the same period Muslim population has increased by over 10% ! With its strength of just 14% of total India's population ( and a lot of financial help from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia in financing the Muslim population from 1975 through 2011 ) and ably supported by the ruling political party "Congress" , the Muslims in India have started showing their true "Islamic" color in openly wearing the Islamic "skull caps" and growing long beards by their men and wearing the Burkha ( "veil") by their women ! The number of Islamic teaching schools (Madsassas) and Mosques have increased hundred folds in last 30 years with funding from the Saudi Arabia , UAE ,Qatar and Kuwait )! With the hard hitting arm-twisting of Bollywood film producers by the Pakistan-based terrorist Dawood Ibrahim between 1980 and 1990 the Indian (Hindi in particular) film industry is flooded with Muslim artists such as Salman Khan , Shahrouk Khan , Aamir Khan , Farah Khan and hundreds of other Muslims. The amount of counterfeit currency notes being pushed into India from across its borders with Pakistan & Bangla Desh ( both Muslim countries ) by the terrorist Dawood Ibrahim runs into trillions of Indian rupees ! There are a number of equity share brokers on the Indian bourse who are using Dawood Ibrahim's illicit wealth for growing it through "third party" participation ("Partciaptory Notes") via offshore states. If 14% Muslim population can cause such internal and external havoc in India then imagine what will happen when the Muslims become 25% of India's population in next ,say, 50 years ! It will be another "Mughal Invasion" from inside whereas the earlier 400 years "Mughal Invasion" of India was external from Mongols,Turks and Persians ! Long Live the "Mughals" of "Free India" ! Europe & USA beware as the next turn is yours with similar "internal invasion" of Muslims "refugees" from Algeria , Lebanon , Pakistan , Bangla Desh , India too ! , Turkey , Egypt , Iran, Iraq , Afganistan and many more such "Islamistans" ! God save you from their invasion which has begun since last 20 years in Europe & Canada !

Countries like Russia, Britain, etc. have alot of far right skinhead groups who do not like Indians whether they are Hindu or not.

Its much safer for Indians to move to the arab sultanate of Oman.

Oman is mostly Ibadi, not sunni or shia, so they can't be influenced by Salafis or Ayatollahs. And they aren't interested in proselytizing.

Ibadis allowed Hindu temples to be built in Muscat and several Hindu families still live there-

http://www.google.fr/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=muscat+siege+in+1895+by+various+tribe+of+ibadi+revivalist+hindu

And if you are concerned about you being absorbed into the population, relax. Oman's laws ban Omani arabs from marrying non Omanis, except arabs from other Gulf States. Its very hard for an Omani male to go through the approval process to marry an Indian girl, but they eventually get it after several years.

As for any non arab who wants to marry an Omani girl- (never going to happen).

And anyway cousin marriage is the tradition in Oman, they marry themselves mostly.

Oman is safe for Hindu indians since freedom of religion is allowed and its very hard to get absorbed into the population.

and i posted the wrong link again above in my copy and paste, i meant to paste this link instead-

http://books.google.fr/books?id=gNu4_uHo7CQC&pg=PA80&dq=muscat+siege+in+1895+by+various+tribe+of+ibadi+revivalist+hindu&hl=fr&ei=HtOpTcBUiN2BB-D27fMF&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=hindu%20crematoria&f=false

Read my above comments

Give it a rest!!! If Hindus are ever @ the receiving end of a bloodbath, they're not likely to find refuge in Oman. Also, skinheads are the real tiny minority of extremists, unlike say, Muslims in Egypt or Pakistan who decide to persecute Christians.

Here is a point - the Pak city of Gwadar and parts of Makran were @ one time part of Oman, b4 they were ceded to Pak. How come there were never any Hindus there - not even those who fled? Hindus did flee other parts of Pakistan, but not Gwadar, since there were never any Hindus there in the first place.

One thing I forgot to point out re this story - we've occasionally had Baluchi trolls come here and point out that the problems was just w/ Paki Panjabis and not w/ Baluchis, but in this story, Hindus are fleeing Baluchistan. So the Baluchis are as bigoted as the Pathans and rest of Pakistanis, contrary to the image that they like to sell.

Hindus from British India were not fleeing from Kashgar in the 1930's when it was under the control of Hui General Ma Shaowu.

The problem in Kashgar was with Uyghur pan turkist/islamists who not only hated non muslims but non turkic people, regardless of them being muslim, as well.

The Omani army has many baluchis in it and many baluchis live in Oman.

Most Hindus in Oman were rich merchants and owned the best houses and property, you're lucky that the Omanis don't treat Hindus like European NAZIs treated their resident merchant/banking people who are rich and own massive amounts of properties AKA Jews.

So tell me which one is more tolerant- Europe or Oman. Europeans are still alot antisemitic.

Baluchis are not ibadi by the way. Not that it makes a difference in tolerance, only that Salafis are definetly not listened to in Oman.

Hindus can all move to Oman, didn't you read a HINDU temple was in muscat since 1895- also their "sacred cows wandered the streets with impunity" in the 19th century

http://www.google.fr/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=muscat+siege+in+1895+by+various+tribe+of+ibadi+revivalist+hindu

Omani Arabs treated Indians alot better than the Portuguese did. The Portuguese committed mass murder in Muscat like they did in India.

The Ibadi Sultan protected the Hindu population in Muscat, it was the Ibadi Imamnate ( which controlled the Omani interior, the Sultan controlled the Muscat coast) which set loose Ibadi tribesmen on the Hindus and the temple in 1895 after besieging the capital. The Sultan allowed the temple to be built but they broke the temploid.

http://www.google.fr/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=muscat+siege+1895+hindu+temple+ibadhi#sclient=psy&hl=fr&tbo=1&tbm=bks&source=hp&q=muscat+siege+1895+hindu+temple&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=3163af1f0e3d5a86

Otherwise the Ibadi population is generally tolerate of Hindus, the Ibadi Imamnate ended sometime in the 20th century so there is no longer a threat to hindus in Oman. Muscat was also a cosmopolitan city.

"Extremist views grew more vociferous as voices for basic human rights and tolerance became more isolated in face of violence and intimidation"
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That pretty much sums up the state of the world in the face of the burgeoning Jihad threat, both in Dar-al-Islam and the rest of the world Muslims are trying to colonize.

More:

The minority Ahmedi sect, which was declared non-Muslim through a constitutional amendment in 1974, lost 99 members to faith-based violence, the report said.
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Let's rephrase that in somewhat less passive way, shall we?

"Muslims murder 99 Ahamdis".

After all, it wasn't Sikhs or Christians who were committing these killings.

"Horse" wrote:

Its much safer for Indians to move to the arab sultanate of Oman.
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Why don't you take up the matter with your murderous coreligionists in Pakistan, and convince them that being like the Omanis would be ever so much more "Islamic"?

I'm sure they'd like to hear how they have misunderstood Islam, and come to believe it condones oppressing and murdering Infidels.

After you are done there, you can take it up with your brother Muslims in Afghanistan, in Indonesia, in Malaysia, in Bangladesh, in Iraq, in Egypt, in Yemen, in Sudan, in Nigeria...my, you're going to be a busy fellow!