Iran: Parliament mulling bill to criminalize dog ownership

The Muslim revulsion for dogs comes from Muhammad: “Ibn Mughaffal reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) ordered killing of the dogs, and then said: What about them, i. e. about other dogs? and then granted concession (to keep) the dog for hunting and the dog for (the security) of the herd, and said: When the dog licks the utensil, wash it seven times, and rub it with earth the eighth time.” — Sahih Muslim 551

And from the Shi’ite side of the divide, which pertains more specifically to this story, here is a contemporary voice — Iraq’s Ayatollah Sistani:

The following ten things are essentially najis [unclean]:

1. Urine
2. Faeces
3. Semen
4. Dead body
5. Blood
6. Dog
7. Pig
8. Kafir [unbeliever — i.e., non-Muslims]
9. Alcoholic liquors
10. The sweat of an animal who persistently eats najasat [unclean things].

Sharia Alert from the Islamic Republic of Iran: “The Latest Enemies of Iran: Dogs and Their Owners,” by Azadeh Moaveni in Time Magazine, April 19:

For much of the past decade, the Iranian government has tolerated what it considers a particularly depraved and un-Islamic vice: the keeping of pet dogs.

During periodic crackdowns, police have confiscated dogs from their owners right off the street; and state media has lectured Iranians on the diseases spread by canines. The cleric Gholamreza Hassani, from the city of Urmia, has been satirized for his sermons railing against “short-legged” and “holdable” dogs. But as with the policing of many other practices (like imbibing alcoholic drinks) that are deemed impure by the mullahs but perfectly fine to many Iranians, the state has eventually relaxed and let dog lovers be….

Those days of tacit acceptance may soon be over, however. Lawmakers in Tehran have recently proposed a bill in parliament that would criminalize dog ownership, formally enshrining its punishment within the country’s Islamic penal code. The bill warns that that in addition to posing public health hazards, the popularity of dog ownership “also poses a cultural problem, a blind imitation of the vulgar culture of the West.” The proposed legislation for the first time outlines specific punishments for “the walking and keeping” of “impure and dangerous animals,” a definition that could feasibly include cats but for the time being seems targeted at dogs. The law would see the offending animal confiscated, the leveling of a $100-to-$500 fine on the owner, but leaves the fate of confiscated dogs uncertain. “Considering the several thousand dogs [that are kept] in Tehran alone, the problem arises as to what is going to happen to these animals,” Hooman Malekpour, a veterinarian in Tehran, said to the BBC’s Persian service. If passed, the law would ultimately energize police and volunteer militias to enforce the ban systematically.

In past years, animal-rights activists in Iran have persuasively argued that sporadic campaigns against dog ownership are politically motivated and unlawful, since the prohibition surfaces in neither the country’s civil laws nor its Islamic criminal codes. But if Iran’s laws were silent for decades on the question of dogs, that is because the animals “” in the capacity of pet “” were as irrelevant to daily life as dinosaurs. Islam, by custom, considers dogs najes, or unclean, and for the past century cultural mores kept dog ownership down to minuscule numbers. In rural areas, dogs have traditionally aided shepherds and farmers, but as Iranians got urbanized in the past century, their dogs did not come along. In cities, aristocrats kept dogs for hunting and French-speaking dowagers kept lap dogs for company, but the vast majority of traditional Iranians, following the advice of the clergy, were leery of dogs and considered them best avoided….

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  1. says

    My list start like this

    1. Quran
    2. Urine
    3. Faeces

    8. Moslem

    But hey, that make me a bigot, whereas

    1. Urine
    2. Faeces

    8. Kafir [unbeliever — i.e., non-Muslims]

    makes one of the great religions of this world

    go figure.
    but then again why should anything make sense in a world where we suspend the constitution to let one of the greats islamo-socialists reign.

  2. says

    Those immoral clerics ought to ban mahoundians instead. Commenting on this article, Duh_Swami once made a point which sure applies to this situation:

    “Most animals protect their young…which means that most animals are smarter than some people. A recent study I read about suggests that animals know the difference between right and wrong, and justice and injustice. I already had found that to be true in the case of dogs….Dogs have a better grasp of “right and wrong’, than do Mahoundians…The reason…Dogs don’t read the Quran…”

    Come to think of it, who should really be banned? Pooches, or Arabdinejads, Rezarab Aslans and Zahra Billoos? We know the answer to that.

  3. says

    Anyone who ordered the killing of dogs just cause he didnt like ’em, that should show you enough about them to make a decision as to what kind of person they were.
    He hated love, and honor and loyalty that comes from love. He only liked the kind of loyalty and ‘love’ that comes from fear. And it shows in his followers!!!

  4. says

    The following ten things are essentially najis [unclean]:

    1. Urine (Muhammad ordered camel urine as medicine)
    2. Faeces
    3. Semen
    4. Dead body
    5. Blood
    6. Dog
    7. Pig

    http://newstime.co.nz/sex-with-animals-in-islam.html
    But to have sex with animals & dead bodies is OK for Muslims!

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27222&sid=5ccc95ad1b1ef3e6f838c6b659dad58f
    Narrated by Ibn Abbas:

    “I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I SLEPT with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib’… The prophet was referring to Fatima , the mother of Ali. (Sentence number 34424 http://www.al-eman.com/Islamlib/viewchp.asp?BID=137&CID=426#s2

  5. says

    The Muslim revulsion for dogs comes from Muhammad: “Ibn Mughaffal reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) ordered killing of the dogs
    …………………………….

    The story is that the “Prophet” was disturbed when the “Angel Gabriel” didn’t keep his “appointment” with Muhammed. Next time Muhammed set his eyes on Jibreel, he said that he hadn’t entered the house because there was *a little black puppy* under Mo’s bed. “Angels do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a picture”.

    The “Prophet” reacted to this news by going on an orgy of dog killing with his *sshole “companions”. He only stopped when alarmed local landowners asked him to spare their working dogs”dogs kept for hunting and herding. I doubt the “Prophet’s” blood-lust was sated, but he reluctantly agreed, since he needed the influential landowners on his side.

    More:

    But as with the policing of many other practices (like imbibing alcoholic drinks) that are deemed impure by the mullahs but perfectly fine to many Iranians, the state has eventually relaxed and let dog lovers be….

    Those days of tacit acceptance may soon be over, however.
    …………………………….

    Such periods of laxity never last in Shari’ah states, where the urge to impose greater “purity” always vies with simple human desires.

    More:

    Lawmakers in Tehran have recently proposed a bill in parliament that would criminalize dog ownership, formally enshrining its punishment within the country’s Islamic penal code. The bill warns that that in addition to posing public health hazards, the popularity of dog ownership “also poses a cultural problem, a blind imitation of the vulgar culture of the West.”
    …………………………….

    “Public health hazards””what a stupid fig leaf. The West has *far superior* public health than any part of the Muslim world””despite” widespread pet ownership.

    This is the same religion that frequently prevents its devotees from getting *polio vaccinations* and treatment for fistulas. This has *nothing* to do with “public health”.

    More:

    The law would see the offending animal confiscated, the leveling of a $100-to-$500 fine on the owner, but leaves the fate of confiscated dogs uncertain. “Considering the several thousand dogs [that are kept] in Tehran alone, the problem arises as to what is going to happen to these animals” Hooman Malekpour, a veterinarian in Tehran, said to the BBC’s Persian service.
    …………………………….

    Dr. Malekpour sounds like a relatively intelligent fellow”I’m sure he knows *exactly* what’s going to happen to these poor dogs.

    After all, how likely is it that the “Islamic Republic of Iran” is going to ship them off to animal shelters in France or Britain?

    The fate of these poor dogs? To quote the Hadith on the doomed Banu Qurayza, “By Allah it is death!’.

    God, I hate Islam.

  6. says

    Banning dogs costs jobs…Pet food manufacture and sales, employs a lot of people…There are people who make a living as veterinarians, who’s main patients are dogs… others who sell doggie accessories like collars and leashes…Goggle dog clothing and see the interesting cloths people make and manufacture for dogs…It’s entertaining and you will be surprised…Ban dogs and all those people will be out of work…If Iran banned all dogs, it would not hurt employment in other countries but it would put some Iranians out of work…But you know how it is, Allah knows best..Mahoundians always put him before dogs…

  7. says

    Dogs…I have outlived a number of dogs…All of them were best friends and companions…I hope that when I die and go ‘somewhere’, all my dog friends will be there and glad to see me…

  8. says

    one of the reason the dogs are considered unclean is the supposedly all dogs fall sleep right when the morning “AZAN” prayers are recited in the minerats.
    m

  9. says

    Interestingly, the Zoroastrians, the original preislamic Iranian religion held dogs to be sacred. Islam often came up with rules that forbade things found good or sacred in other religions and Zoroastrianism was a key competitor to Islamic expansion. Now, a country that once regarded dogs as sacred wants to outlaw them it seems. I would appreciate any corroboration about the status of the dog in Zoroastrianism.

  10. says

    But, in a contradiction that is so typical of the Koran and ahadith, Mohammad directed people to drink camel urine to cure disease. And, if I recall correctly, there were reports of people licking up Mohammad’s sweat if he dripped it! EWWW!

    Also, as pointed out in a great book, “Understanding Mohammad, a Psychobiography”, Mohammad had obsessive compulsive disorder. That is why he directed almost everything to be repeated 3 times. It is interesting that he instructed that the utensil be washed 7 times. Of course, the kicker is to rub it in dirt the eight time. Mohammad truly was an insane, epileptic, barbarian, misogynist, megalomaniac, pedophile. This is just further evidence.

  11. says

    “Ibn Mughaffal reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) ordered killing of the dogs

    Okay, isn’t it time to rehabilitate Mohammud, the ‘Messenger of Allah’? We know he is a generally accepted stinker all around, and truth be told, everyone will know this soon enough by and by, as the truth has a way of asserting itself. So soon all will know Mohammud was a general stinker who hated dogs, he hated women, he had unlimited sex for slave girls, he took part in general beheadings massacres, he hated music and the arts, he had strange ideas about the earth and sun, he wasn’t particularly nice to other religions and their practitioners, he feared jinns, hated wine sacraments, and used stones to clean his anus after defecation; also he took sexual possession of his child bride when she was only nine, he lusted after booty and slaves, he encouraged the same for his men of war, and generally he was a slave trading warlord who disrespected all the Arab pagan gods at the Kabba, who insisted that only his family Moon-god ‘Allah’ be worshipped and anyone who disobeyed him was put to death. Okay, any questions?

    So if Mohammud was such a stinker, how can we ameliorate the Muslim reality that they are worshipping a delusional, megalomanic, acromegalic, obsessive compulsive psychotic, an all around bad guy? This is not a question of whether or not Mohammud existed, but one of “if he did exist, what was wrong with him”? And ultimately, how can we make him right again, since under closer scrutiny he looks so positively criminal, diabolical and generally odious to modern sensibilities. I mean really, who can love a slave trading, raping, murdering, primitive Beduin who threatens you with either virtual death in Hell, or death in the real sense, where you die for him? How uncharacteristic of our modern moral sensitivities, mostly based on Christian charity and human sanctity, to put people to death, killing anyone who disagrees with him, or just killing for the sake of killing, like the dogs? Shouldn’t we now feel some pity for this historical figure so much maligned by the truth about him, and try to somehow rehabilitate Mohammud into something more acceptable to modern hearts and minds? Or is the job so overwhelming, and so embarrassing, that this ‘Messenger of Allah’ is too far gone from anything we of the modern world can find acceptable as social behaviors, that he is beyond any redemption, so he must be abandoned if not outright condemned? Is Mohammud beyond saving?

    I leave it to the good readers of the truth about Mohammud to decide for themselves:
    Is it possible to rehabilitate Mohammud, or is he lost to history forever?

  12. says

    “In Sharifabad the dogs distinguished clearly between Moslem and Zoroastrian, and were prepared to go?full of hope, into a crowded Zoroastrian assembly, or to fall asleep trustfully in a Zoroastrian lane, but would flee as before Satan from a group of Moslem boys?The evidence points?to Moslem hostility to these animals having been deliberately fostered in the first place in Iran, as a point of opposition to the old (pre-Islamic jihad conquest) faith (i.e., Zoroastrianism) there. Certainly in the Yazdi area?Moslems found a double satisfaction in tormenting dogs, since they were thereby both afflicting an unclean creature and causing distress to the infidel who cherished him.

    There are grim?stories from the time (i.e., into the latter half of the 19th century) when the annual poll-tax (jizya) was exacted, of the tax gatherer tying a Zoroastrian and a dog together, and flogging both alternately until the money was somehow forthcoming, or death released them. I myself was spared any worse sight than that of a young Moslem girl?standing over a litter of two-week old puppies, and suddenly kicking one as hard as she could with her shod foot. The puppy screamed with pain, but at my angry intervention she merely said blankly, ?But it?s unclean.? In Sharifabad I was told by distressed Zoroastrian children of worse things: a litter of puppies cut to pieces with a spade-edge, and a dog?s head laid open with the same implement; and occasionally the air was made hideous with the cries of some tormented animal. Such wanton cruelties on the Moslems? part added not a little to the tension between the communities”

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=5676.0

  13. says

    Perhaps Temple Grandin is on to something she makes the claim (in her book), “Animals make us Human.” I seem to have trouble recognizing any ‘humanity’ in the ravings of Mo-ham-ed (LBUH.) Is it because without animals us naked apes are not human? I have a ‘service dog,’ a small black bitch. Does our presence in society ‘offend’ all those wonderful Muslims (LBUT)that are colonizing America?

  14. says

    The partnership of man and canine goes back a hundred thousand years ago. Just because Mohammed hated dogs is no reason for the rest of humanity to hate them.

    “That what you do for the least of them, you do also for me.” Matthew? I think?

  15. says

    Unclean? Some of those things ARE nasty and unclean, and some are not – so what, mohammedans! How about a list of all things unholy & evil, as in …

    1) perverted-prophet muhammad

    2) qur’an

    3) all followers of this perverted-prophet muhammad

    4) crimes committed by said followers

    5) allah (gets last place, since iT is a false god)

    What am I missing, folks?

  16. says

    We can not win the hearts of islamists because their belief does not allow them to have one.

    People without hearts cannot comprehend the faithfulness, love and companionship of a good dog, one of life’s true gifts.

    Tell you what Iran – send us all of your dogs and we will gladly send all islamists back – you think dogs are worthless, we feel the same about you – I call that a fair trade

    Mindless idiots and I am not talking about the dogs

  17. says

    When a Pakistani woman asks a Libyan man to clean up the poop from his wife’s dog, things can turn really nasty. Mustafa Elsherkisi stabbed her husband, calling him a “Paki bastard”, and received a life sentence with a recommended minimum tariff of 15 years.
    Still, he’s a Libyan imprisoned in Scotland, so who knows how long he’ll actually serve.
    Edinburgh Evening News April 12th 2011

  18. says

    I miss my Rottie, she was such an awesome and beloved pet …

    Anyway, I believe that dogs can sound the alarm since they’re able to sense the ‘good’ and/or ‘bad’ in people, so this explains why muhammad hated dogs from the get go – the feelings were undoubtedly mutual. And I bet dogs bit this evil man every chance they got, so he hated them sounding the alarm. Hey good boy, good girl!!!!! …lol

  19. says

    It’s so much fun taking a BLACK DOG to the park and watch the muslimahs call all their children off the playground and make one giant, terrified huddle.

  20. says

    It’s so much fun taking a BLACK DOG to the park and watch the muslimahs call all their children off the playground and make one giant, terrified huddle.

  21. says

    A deeply moving poem from Western civilisation – The Prayer of the Dog.

    From ‘Prayers from the Ark’ by Carmen Bernos de Gasztold.


    In the original French –

    Seigneur, 
je veille.
    Si je n’étais pas là,
 qui garderait leur maison ?
    
Qui leur serait fidèle ?
    
Il n’y a que vous et moi 
pour comprendre
ce qu’est la fidélité.
    Ils me disent “bon chien ! brave chien !”
 Des mots….
    Moi je prends leurs caresses
    
Et les vieux os qu’ils me jettent.
    Et j’ai l’air content !
    
Ils croient tellement me faire plaisir !


    Je prends aussi les coups de pieds
    
quand ils arrivent !

    Tout cela n’a pas d’importance
    
Moi je veille !
    Ainsi soit il.”

    Now, in Rumer Godden’s English translation –

    Lord, 
I keep watch!

    If I am not here 
who will guard their house?

    Watch over their sheep?

    Be faithful?

    No one but You and I 
understands
 what faithfulness is.

    They call me. “Good dog! Nice dog!”
    
Words…
I take their pats
 and the old bones they throw me
 and I seem pleased.

    They really believe they make me happy.

    I take kicks too
 when they come my way.

    None of that matters.
    
I keep watch!

    Lord, 
do not let me die 
until, for them,
 all danger is driven away.”

  22. says

    Having a dog that you regularly take for a walk is *good* for you.

    http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2001/12/10/435278.htm

    ‘Unleashing the benefits of dog-walking’

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200704/s1904834.htm

    Dogs and humans may have been hanging around together for a long, long time, longer even than scientists and historians originally thought.

    http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2002/03/26/513072.htm

    ‘Humans live a dog’s life’

    http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc97/6_28_97/bob1.htm

    Way to go, Mad Mullahs, Ayatollahs, Sheikhs and Imams – criminalising and cursing humanity’s most ancient alliance…an alliance that can help humans be psychologically and physically healthier.

    Watch your people become less fit and more miserable when you deprive them of their doggie friends.

    Stupid, stupid, stupid anti-human inhumane Islam.

  23. says

    The Wikipedia article on ‘dogs in religion’ is unintentionally revealing.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogs_in_religion

    It totally glosses over the Mohammedan ban on and hostility toward dogs (and there is no mention of the sahih Hadith that identifies black dogs with ‘Satan’, nor of the hadith about Muhammad ordering a slaughter of dogs, which Gravenimage referred to above; while another article that it links to on the subject, on ‘Islam and dogs’, is kitman and taqiyya from beginning to end, an exercise in deflection and evasion of the obvious – that Mohammedans are generally taught to hate and mistreat dogs, and forbidden to keep them as pets, and that this is one of the things that renders Mohammedanism utterly alien to pretty much every other human being on earth)

    What *is* clear from the wikipedia piece on ‘dogs and religion’ is that practically all other human religious/ spiritual traditions have and have had a much more positive view of dogs than Islam has.

    E.g. – HInduism: “In Hinduism, it is believed that the dog is a messenger of Yama, the god of death, and dogs guard the doors of Heaven. This is a day when the dog is worshipped by applying tika (the holy vermilion dot), incense sticks and garlanded generally with marigold flower. Sarama, the bitch of the gods, is described as the mother of all dogs.”

    Interestingly, Zoroastrianism, the main religion of Persia at the time when the Muslims invaded, is a faith that stands out from all the others in its love of and respect for dogs –

    “In Zoroastrianism, the dog is regarded as an especially beneficent, clean and righteous creature, which must be fed and taken care of.

    “The dog is praised for the useful work it performs in the household, but it is also seen as having special spiritual virtues.

    “A dog’s gaze is considered to be purifying and to drive off Daevas (demons). It is also believed to have a special connection with the afterlife: the Chinwad Bridge to Heaven is said to be guarded by dogs in Zoroastrian scripture,
    and dogs are traditionally fed in commemoration of the dead.

    Ihtiram-i sag, “respect for the dog”, is a common injunction among Iranian Zoroastrian villagers.”

    “Detailed prescriptions for the appropriate treatment of dogs are found in the Vendidad (a subdivision of the Zoroastrian holy scripture Avesta), especially in chapters 13, 14 and 15, where harsh punishments are imposed for harm inflicted upon a dog and the faithful are required to assist dogs, both domestic and stray, in various ways; often, help or harm to a dog is equated with help and harm to a human.

    “The killing of a dog (“a shepherd’s dog, or a house-dog, or a Vohunazga [i.e. stray] dog, or a trained dog”) is considered to lead to damnation in the afterlife.”

    There is something peculiarly horrible about witnessing descendants of the devotedly dog-loving Zoroastrian Persians attacking and penalising those among them who have unconsciously reverted to the ways of their pre-Islamic ancestors – and to the universal human norm – by keeping and learning to love their doggie friends).

  24. says

    Dogs are cleaner, nicer and more loyal than mohammedans.
    I knew a woman from Jordan whose father just happened to love dogs. He had a beautiful German Shepard which he kept in a closed-in courtyard, the entire house surrounded by a high wall so that no one could see in. His dog bothered no one and was supposed to be a secret, and he really loved that dog. Apparently someone found out, because poisoned meat was thrown over the fence and the dog ate it and died. The man was stricken with grief for his beloved animal. But he did not get another dog.
    How cruel are islam and its adherents!

  25. says

    Here are two classic postings from Jihad Watch’s Hugh Fitzgerald on the deep Islamic antipathy towards dogs, from another JW story about Iran cracking down on pet lovers:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/08/iran-bans-pet-ads-brands.html#comment-702627

    And here is his “Fitzgerald: On dogs and statues in Islam”:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/08/iran-bans-pet-ads-brands.html#comment-702628

    Hugh makes the minor error of attributing “I will not enter a house with dogs or pictures” to the “Prophet” Muhammed himself rather than the “Angel Gabriel” (or Jibreel), but this is a small matter.

    In the second post, he traces the Islamic aversions to pictures”and, more salient here, to dogs. It may well have been the Persian Zoroastrian’s great love and respect for dogs that Muslims sought to tear down by regarding these esteemed creatures as “Najis”.

  26. says

    “also poses a cultural problem, a blind imitation of the vulgar culture of the West.”

    Does that mean I’madinnerjacket will have to get rid of his iconic dinner jacket?

  27. says

    at the end of WWI the australian light horse regiments (mounted infantry) were told that their beautiful, brave australian horses (brumbies) would be sold to the local arab / egyptian populations.

    these men, (look up their charge of beersheeba) had observed how these people treated all of their animals and to a man, they went away and shot their own horses. leaving none to be flogged to death and starved by locals. none could be charged, as thousands did it. it was better and kinder than the alternative.

    ive seen moslem men of all ages do things like kick cats to death and laugh about it. any chance to assert some sort of dominance. it is endemic.

    cruelty is seen as tough. anger and violence fuel everything. the plight of animal welfare in the west is bad enough.. what the hell is the cainine population of tehran about to go through, besides their owners. if it says in your holy book that dogs are “unclean”, they will be made to suffer, like its their fault or they had a choice in being a dog.

    medieval. they may even put some on trial.

  28. says

    A dog will be loyal to you, love you, and be happy every timie he sees you….A Muslim will only kill you at the first opportunity..

  29. says

    I was going to say a bunch of different things, but there’s really no point.

    I’ll cut it down to this: It’s depressing, because no matter what, nothing will be done. Pogroms against dogs are nothing new, and not necessarily limited to Muslims. Athens did it before their Olympics, and so did Beijing, I believe. And dogs can’t organize to fight back, and they don’t qualify as refugees on the basis of their genetics. Also, the way we treat the other races of their species (wolves and coyotes), we got nothing to say. (YES, the three should be considered ONE SPECIES since they can freely interbreed and create viable, fertile offspring. The ONLY reason we distinguish between the wild and domesticated types is because, well, the wild ones don’t need us, and humanity can’t stand animals that don’t require “human stewardship”.)

    400 million dogs (adding in the wild ones wouldn’t raise the number much) in the world, and 7 billion humans. By that comparison, dogs are practically an endangered species.

    What’s more concerning is the fact that they may extend this to CATS. The last time cats were unpopular with religious types, the Black Death swept across Europe. No cats to keep the rats carrying the disease-carrying fleas down and away from oh-so-smart people.

    Well, fine then. I hope the Black Death takes them all for this.

    We need more religious types pointing out the punishment their god gives to animal torturers. However, I’m not holding my breath. When AIDS came out, it was said be God’s punishment towards gays, because it seemed to come from their activities. But when it was discovered it was the activities of Africans who kill and eat monkeys, they sure went silent. Not a punishment, then, for slaughtering wildlife? SARS neither? That came from the Chinese insisting on capturing and eating wild civets.

    If I were religious, yeah, I’d be pointing this out.

    Gad, I hate H. sapiens. Muslims just top the list for me when it comes to tiering which groups I dislike the most.

  30. says

    Animals know…….probably a dog snarled at that horrible man mohammed because the dog knew he was an evil person
    ….hence mohammed took offense to these noble creatures.

  31. says

    If dogs are man’s best friend, then what does that make muslims? Inhuman, perhaps?

    Hmm, how does the online dictionary define inhuman?

    in·hu·man (n-hymn)
    adj.
    1.
    a. Lacking kindness, pity, or compassion; cruel. See Synonyms at cruel.
    b. Deficient in emotional warmth; cold.
    2. Not suited for human needs: an inhuman environment.
    3. Not of ordinary human form; monstrous.

    Dang, the dictionary nailed it! …yep, most muslims are inhuman.

  32. says

    And also regarding white, western pedophiles molesting underage asian boys and girls, heres a couple videos of the peverts.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfXuYMwgeZc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SjtkK1sZvw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEQ6UdxNex0

    “Frédéric Mitterrand, current (2009) minister of French “Culture”, wrote a book (“La mauvaise Vie”, 2005) in which he revealed he made frequent trips to Thailand and paid to have sex with young, underage, boys. He admitted he knew it was wrong but that he liked the excitement so much that he did it anyway.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIH9wM86QWY

    There was one video of a sick Frenchman molesting cambodian videos, but I forget the name of it, if i find it i will post it.

  33. says

    I went to school with a few Zoarastrins in Tehran. they are the most peaceful peopel. here is their tenet:
    good thinking
    good behavior
    good language

    the islamists destroyed our country.
    m

  34. says

    you islamophobes are highly delusional that thinking that you know obscure islamic terms would make you look smart…

    go ask any muslim in northern thailand, burma, or in Ningxia what “taquiyya” and “kitman” are and bring a lie detector- i guarantee that ZERO % will know what you are talking about. First of all, no one bothered to transalted them from arabic, second, no one uses it since there is no need to, the Thai state leaves Islam alone and does not create any situation where lying is needed, therefore, it was never introduced.

    Only those “scholars” and “ulema” from countries like Egypt or institutions like al Azhar will grasp at what you are saying.

  35. says

    you don’t know anything about the shah, or islam apparently, because the Shah’s first named was Mohammed, and he was a muslim.

    Mohammed Reza Pahlavi

    http://www.farahpahlavi.org/mrp.html

    The Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, along with King Hussein, donated $150,000 to the Republic of China for the construction of the Taipei Grand Mosque on Taiwan. (and we only have sunnis, there is no Shia hui, the shah was Shia)

    http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/197004/islam.in.taiwan.htm

    The Shah also went on Hajj to Mecca- this is a photo of him in prayer-

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fa/5/5f/Mohammad_rezashah.jpg

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    There is no such thing as “taqiyya” or “kitman” with muslims in China-

    中国伊斯兰教�汇表
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    search for Kitman in Chinese-Islamic/English Dictionary (中国伊斯兰教�汇表)-

    http://books.google.fr/books?id=5hsOlbcr3BEC&dq=%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E4%BC%8A%E6%96%AF%E5%85%B0%E6%95%99%E8%AF%8D%E6%B1%87%E8%A1%A8&q=kitman#v=onepage&q=kitman&f=false

    FAIL- “Aucun résultat n’a été trouvé dans ce livre pour kitman”
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    search for taqiyya in Chinese Islamic Dictionary-

    http://books.google.fr/books?id=5hsOlbcr3BEC&dq=%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E4%BC%8A%E6%96%AF%E5%85%B0%E6%95%99%E8%AF%8D%E6%B1%87%E8%A1%A8&q=taqiyya#v=onepage&q=taqiyya&f=false

    FAIL- “Aucun résultat n’a été trouvé dans ce livre pour taqiyya”
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    search for lie in Chinese Islamic Dictionary-

    http://books.google.fr/books?id=5hsOlbcr3BEC&dq=%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E4%BC%8A%E6%96%AF%E5%85%B0%E6%95%99%E8%AF%8D%E6%B1%87%E8%A1%A8&q=lie#v=onepage&q=lie&f=false

    FAIL- “Aucun résultat n’a été trouvé dans ce livre pour lie”
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    Now search for a term that actually means something to muslims- Allah

    http://books.google.fr/books?id=5hsOlbcr3BEC&dq=%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E4%BC%8A%E6%96%AF%E5%85%B0%E6%95%99%E8%AF%8D%E6%B1%87%E8%A1%A8&q=allah#v=snippet&q=allah&f=false

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  36. says

    It seems to me that “Horse” is all too familiar with Taqiyya and Kitman, since he practices both here on a depressingly regular basis…

  37. says

    And the Shah was also a great man, he backed up Pakistan in the 1965 war against India, and was against the satanic Indian regime in Delhi (since India was supported by the Soviet Union). The Shah suggested that China, Pakistan, and Iran should get together in an alliance to confront the Soviet Union/India/Arab alliance, since China’s nuclear weapons would shield Pakistan and Iran from the Soviet Union’s arsenral.

    No muslim in China generally respects Khomeini, since what he did was essentially call himself the representative of Allah on earth.

    the only person who fits that description is the prophet, not khomeini.

    And Khomeini improved relations between Iran and India. The Shah’s SAVAK secret police even spread rumours that Khomeini was an Indian to discredit him, since Khomeini usually gave his signature as “Hindi” (meaning indian).

    India declared a three day mourning period when Khomeini died…..

  38. says

    “Horse” wrote:

    you don’t know anything about the shah, or islam apparently, because the Shah’s first named was Mohammed, and he was a muslim.
    ……………………….

    Of course the Shah was a Muslim”he just wasn’t “sufficiently Islamic” for the Mullahs.

    Islam is always eating its own.

  39. says

    Horse – Well, China and India can go to hell, too, afaic, and their people can bloody well stop coming to Canada any time now. We don’t need your scab labour here any more. All our jobs got outsourced to China and India, so why should Chinese and East Indians be allowed to come here and take what’s left?

  40. says

    Ok, then, Horse, which bad Chinese habit DID cause it?

    And why is it, every time I see pics of the Far East now, people tend to wear medical masks? What’s up with that?

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    Animals indigenous to China are just more susceptible to diseases-

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/01/health/01plague.html

    http://news.discovery.com/human/black-death-plague-china.html

    “The likely origin of the plague in China has nothing to do with its people or crowded cities, Dr. Achtman said. The bacterium has no interest in people, whom it slaughters by accident. Its natural hosts are various species of rodent such as marmots and voles, which are found throughout China.”

    http://www.infoplease.com/cig/dangerous-diseases-epidemics/bubonic-plague.html
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    Medical masks are for protection from pollution- from cars and factories- who invented pollution causing cars and factories? the white man.

    in China, the Muslim warlord and General Ma Bufang instituted a reforestration program in Qinghai province to save trees and the environment, planting millions, building irrigation works, and exterminating pests and insects.

    White Americans who came and visited the province praised all of his policies and intiatives.

  42. says

    First of all, no offense to normal white people like Kepha and others here at JW, or even gravenimage (my only beef with you guys is your hostility to islam) the following is only directed at Dalaran who has consistently bashed blacks, asians, indians, and posted a link to american rennaisance, a racist organization in america

    @dalaran, don’t pretend that you white people have been saintlike in your behavior in non western countries.

    No, i’m not talking about colonialism. I’m talking about the masses of western, white pedophiles who are molesting asian kids in third world countries.

    Heres a deal- send back all the artifacts you guys stole from egypt, india, pakistan, arabs, China, southeast asia, and stop sending sick, perverted, white child molestors to our countries, then we’ll stop immigration, ok?

    Russian pedophile in thailand-

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/07/07/us-thailand-paedophile-idUSTRE6661JC20100707

    90-Year-Old Australian Accused Of Raping 4 Young Thai Sisters-

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/30/90-year-old-australian-ac_n_630658.html

    Australian pedophile leaves prison
    http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/30-06-2006/82745-thailand-0/

    Pedophiles ‘hunt kids in poor Asian villages’

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/1079146/aussie-pedophiles-hunt-kids-in-poor-asian-villages

    AUSTRALIA: TWO ARRESTED PEDOPHILES ARE THE ‘TIP OF THE ICEBERG’

    http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-13098441/AUSTRALIA-TWO-ARRESTED-PEDOPHILES-ARE.html

    Accused Australian pedophile ‘murdered’

    http://www.news.com.au/accused-australian-pedophile-murdered/story-0-1225752699895

    cases like this happen in the hundreds every year in Thailand, and neighboring Cambodia. They are perpetrated by WHITE, western pedophiles.

  43. says

    First of all, no offense to normal white people like Kepha and others here at JW, or even gravenimage (my only beef with you guys is your hostility to islam) the following is only directed at Dalaran who has consistently bashed blacks, asians, indians, and posted a link to american rennaisance, a racist organization in america

    @Dalaran.

    You claim Chinese, indians, blacks, and others provide “scab” labour, which would be detrimental toward white workers.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/iran-parliament-mulling-bill-to-criminalize-dog-ownership.html#comment-780272

    The truth is, you do not fear mass amounts of migrant unskilled laborers, you fear the highly skilled class of asian, indian, and arab doctors, and others who have received higher education, and occupy positions in western hospitals and politics, not the masses of laborers who slave away in factories.

    China, India, Pakistan have all achieved high advances in weapons technology. All three are nuclear weapons powers, India and Pakistan posses immediate range missles, China posseses Intercontinental ballistic missles which reach all the way across the world, the shenzhou spacecraft, and the ability to destroy enemy sattelites. China and india’s nukes can wipe out an entire hemisphere.

    So don’t give us the crap that its you, the west who is just being weak and playing nice to us unskilled non whites. The truth is, that three non white countries, India, China, and pakistan have weapons technology capable of leveling the earth five times over.

    Pakistan is on the verge of having more nukes than britain, enough to blanket europe in a coat of nucear dust (not that I want that to happen, I’m pointing out the power of their arsenal)

    Your arguments that us non whites are overruning the west with unskilled slave labor, and that its the west playing nice, only works with black africans or latin americans, who don’t possess India, China, or pakistan’s techonology, nor posses enouch education to create a highly skilled class of people like doctors.

    However, even though the Arabs do not posses nuclear weapons or even basic missle technology, unlike Pakistan, the Arabs do have access to high education via oil money, which is why many of them become doctors or skilled proffesionals. It is them who you fear, not the average migrant slave labor.

  44. says

    The most infective animal to a human is another human. ONLY humans carry the ENTIRE complement of diseases humans are susceptible to. China is so damn crowded with humans they had to pass a one-child law to control out of control human breeding. What does that tell you?

    And as I said in another post, I don’t give a damn how skilled they are – Canada needs to start promoting Canadian labour instead of foreign labour.

    As far as people going to exploit kids in Thailand for, well, maybe if the parents didn’t sell their kids as whores, no one would go. Why are there no laws against this in Thailand? Ot if there are, why aren’t they enforced? We have to wait for people to come back to arrest them.

    The CBC also had a thing about attitudes towards AIDS in third world countries. The attitude of the Thais was that it doesn’t matter. A woman with AIDS said she knew her husband slept around, but there was nothing that could be done about it, coz it was a man’s right (to spread disease around?! Isn’t this what we KILL animals for?)

    As far as Chinese immigrants go, I never used to mind the old-school ones. But now we’re getting your CRAP, and arrogant crap, too, declaring Vancouver “a part of Asia” and complaining that Brampton “isn’t Asian enough”. And demanding compensation for a perfectly legitimate Head Tax that hasn’t been in effect for 90 years or so. Frankly, I think they should reinstate the Head Tax against everyone who wants to come here – and make it not $500, but 10 million dollars, the same amount that Arar clown extorted from Canadian taxpayers.

    Oh, btw, I’m also aware that “Horse” is another word for Heroin. Are you one of those Chinese heroin dealers in Vancouver that so “culturally-enrich” the city?

  45. says

    How many nuclear weapons do you have, Canadians? How many intercontinental ballistic missles? How is it that Pakistan, a third world country, has more advanced weapons than Canada? There’s no contest regarding Canada’s military with either India, China, or Pakistan.

    “Horse” is a surname in China, the most common among muslims, a “horse” has nothing to do with heroin. I am not involved in it, and I’m not in Canada. You were the ones who brought blacks to your continent as slaves, you were the ones who caused massive amounts of people to move around, not us.

    And currently a large population of white boers live in south africa. Get all your people the hell out of our countries before even speaking of immigration.

    Arabs are part of the Caucasian race, and Maher Arer looks like a white caucasoid to me, as do many other Arabs, who should be given automatic free visas to Canada if you want to restrict your country to white only immigration.

    http://thestar.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341bf8f353ef0120a637d326970c-pi

    your museums contain artifacts plundered from egypt, the arabs, the indians, and other countries. Usually the work of white “explorers” like sir aurel stein and Giuseppe Ferlini, who destroyed numerous Sudanese pyramids and looted their contents, bringing them back to europe.

    China is less populated per square mile than britain. China just has massive amounts of deserts (the ordos loop, the taklamakan), and massive mountain ranges where people can’t live.

    It tells me that chinese have done a fantastic job keeping to themselves, while whites, in order to deal with overpopulation, invaded the land of other peoples (argentina, australia), and in the case of Mexico, mass raped the native women in order to produce a race of mestizos.

    This is the behavior of White caucasians in hong kong-

    “Western Bulldogs Players Disgracing Themselves In Hong Kong (November 2010)”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUq9SG3cjJ0

    “Drunken antics anger Dogs”

    http://www.sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/drunken-antics-anger-dogs-110914
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    Thailand has one of the lowest AIDS infection rates in the world-

    “There are very few developing countries in the world where public policy has been effective in preventing the spread of HIV and AIDS on a national scale, but Thailand is an exception. In the 1990s, a massive programme that began to control HIV reduced visits to commercial sex workers by half, raised condom usage, decreased the prevalence of STDs (Sexually Transmitted Diseases) dramatically, and achieved substantial reductions in new HIV infections.1

    Thailand, though, is also a reminder that success can be relative. Its well funded, politically supported and comprehensive prevention programmes have saved millions of lives, reducing the number of new HIV infections from 143,000 in 1991 to 19,000 in 2003.2 Nonetheless, over half a million people in Thailand are living with HIV, and in 2009 28,000 people died from AIDS.3″

    http://www.avert.org/thailand-aids-hiv.htm
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  46. says

    China, throughout the past 1,000 years, has had a very low percentage of population growth rate, compared to europe or america.

    During the 60s and 70s when china’s population took off to over a billion, the percentage was far below that of other developing nations. Only because the population was already so massive, 400 million, was the effect felt.

    China’s population took off only from over a 100 million in the 15th-17th centuries due to the white man, European introduction of corn, potatoes, and other crops to the world market
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    And only non whites are cruel to animals, whites are so saintlike in their behavior that all those seals, narwhals and other creatures white norwegians murder each years don’t really exist, neither do the cows that were bludgeoned to death by white americans

    In fact, i’m pretty sure given Dalaran’s insistence that only nonwhites abuse animals, that the following white guy is really a sadistic asian animal hater in disguise, having had plastic surgery to look exactly like a caucasian.

    “Underground Footage From a Texas Dairy Farm (Not for the Weak of Stomach)”

    http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2011/04/cattle_cruelty_allegations.php

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/video-shows-cow-torture-at-dairy-farm-10762713

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OjhPVL48Ks

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    “Forsyth County man charged with animal cruelty after discovery of dead horses”

    http://www.examiner.com/pet-rescue-in-national/forsyth-county-man-charged-with-animal-cruelty-after-discovery-of-dead-horses

    http://www.france24.com/en/20090422-seal-hunt-casts-chill-over-eu-norway-relations-

    “It’s the new sport for tourists: killing baby seals”

    “Wildlife and animal rights groups have condemned Norway’s culling holidays”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/oct/03/environment.conservation

    “EU probes Norway’s seal hunt”

    http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1620989.ece

    “Greenland says it’s cutting the narwhal hunt, but is it?”

    http://www.sikunews.com/News/Denmark-Greenland/Greenland-says-it's-cutting-the-narwhal-hunt,-but-is-it%3F-1750

    “Texas Sheriff Investigates Animal-Cruelty Video Rattling Cattle Market .”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704658704576275091620222926.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

  47. says

    White Russian prostitutes come to our country all the time to sell their bodies- what you say doesn’t matter in the end, you aren’t the prime minister of canada, too bad, and I’m not living in Canada. what one internet troll says he/she doesn’t want doesn’t get me too pissed, since I’m free to step into Canada anytime I want.

    russian prostitutes in thailand, vietnam, selling their services to natives

    http://www.asiapacificms.com/articles/russian_mafia/

    “Annually, thousands of Russian women end up as prostitutes in China, Japan or South Korea. Bars in major Chinese cities now offer blond, blue-eyed Russian “hostesses,” while in Tokyo, Russian girls are the latest addition to the menu in fancy “hostess” bars”

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,161939,00.html
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    You are highly mistaken if you think the Jews respect whites, especially Russians. russian women prostitutes are trafficked by Arab muslim bedouin AND Jews in Israel working together to live out the rest of their lives selling their bodies

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJnnd7vavfI

    “Illegal immigrants in Israel, who are mostly Russian, are often stereotyped as having brought crime and prostitution ”

    http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/israel.htm

    “Prostitutes from Eastern Europe often end up in Israel”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/special_report/1998/03/98/russian_mafia/69521.stm

    Arab uslim bedouin selling Russian girls to Israel pimps

    http://www.load-islam.com/printarticle.php?artical_id=375&section=family_society&subsection=Social%20Problems

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    Not only that, Arab muslim bedouin serve in the Israeli army

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aed1fzEuq2I

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Bedouin_IDF1949.jpg

  48. says

    By the way, the illegal immigrant (they don’t have papers) russian prostitutes are welcome to come into our country anytime they want. After all, its the Russian mafia who is bringing them to us, not us going to Russia to kidnap them.

    White supremacy at its finest- Russians blaming immigrants for causing problems, yet sending their own women to sell their bodies to non white people.

  49. says

    And I think its pretty clear you haven’t accomplished anything in your life, neither have any “jobless” white canadians out of work, its not because foreign labor is coming and stealing your jobs, its you, white canadian, who has flunked all of your exams, grades, and schools, which is why you can’t become a doctor, lawyer, or any other position which a non white is “stealing” from you.

    Just like all the russian prostitutes selling themselves in our countries.

  50. says

    And I think its pretty clear you haven’t accomplished anything in your life, neither have any “jobless” white canadians out of work, its not because foreign labor is coming and stealing your jobs, its you, white canadian, who has flunked all of your exams, grades, and schools, which is why you can’t become a doctor, lawyer, or any other position which a non white is “stealing” from you.

    Just like all the russian prostitutes selling themselves in our countries.