Muslim Brotherhood leader: Our objective is to establish an Islamic state

Showing their true colors. Of course, the leftist and Islamist-enabling MSM will ignore this story. In their Orwellian world, "imperialism," "racism," etc. are solely the province of evil whites and Jews, and peace-loving Muslims are always oppressed victims. Nothing new to report here, move along.

Shater is well named and totally appropriate.

OT:

Anyone watch "The Ten Commandments" last night? (an Easter-eve tradition!)

What do you make of Jethro describing his bedouin people as the "Children of Ishmail?"

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"Pointing out that no Sunni state currently has a regime with Islamic references"

These Muslim Brotherhood guys are never satisfied with the amount of sharia (or "Islamic references"). It's kind of funny seeing this guy (El Shater) using a common apologetic line used by Muslim spokesmen in the West, who claim that no Muslim country fully, or truly, implements sharia.

JihadWatch reader Coptic notes that "El Shater actually said to control the world, and take over the world, but the newspaper translated it 'to become world leaders."

Yes, the English phrase "world leaders" can have different connotations than what would be implied by "ruling," "governing," "dominating," or "controlling" the world. If someone says "We hope to become world leaders in/of __________", it doesn't seem likely the person is referring to the grandiose goal of ruling the world according to some system of law and governance. Instead, it could mean the "world leaders" in the interpretation and presentation of Islamic ideas; or it could mean some kind of purely inspirational role. While the Muslim Brotherhood may indeed present its propaganda, what it is seeking is implementation, actually putting sharia law fully and comprehensively into effect, and ultimately bringing the whole world under Islamic rule, by persuasion or by force.

The key word in question here translated from the Arabic version of the article as "rule" or "control", etc., is سيادة

I don't know much Arabic myself, but Coptic's claim is well-supported by online Arabic dictionaries. The Sakhr dictionary has

سيادة

sovereign authority , dominance , domination , dominion , command , prevalence , predominance , ascendancy , mastery , lordship , lordliness , sovereignty , supremacy , suzerainty , rule

The sensagent dictionary has

سيادة (n.)
dominance, domination, Dominion, lordship, Lordship, mastership, mastery, reign, seigneury, seigniory, signory, sovereignty, supremacy

The Google dictionary has

سيادة

o sovereign
o sovereignty
o mastership
o suzerainty
o dominion
o supremacy
o seigniory
o mastery
o lordship
o law
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In the article, El Shater's statement about ruling the world is made in the context of a sentence in which he also talks about establishing the "Islamic State."

Islam is not about "controlling the
world" and I doubt that a Muslim Brotherhood
would say something that stupid. It seems your
Coptic friend is making that up to "scare" you up.
And if they really said it then they are
unbelievably ignorant.
Here is what the Quran says:

"And so We revealed to you (Mohamad)
an Arabic Quran to warn the mother of
the villages (Mecca) and whoever is around
it.." Quran 42:7-8

"And had your Lord willed, He would have made
humans one nation; and even then they would
still disagree. Except whom your Lord had
mercy on them.." Quran 11:118-119

"And to every nation We made for them
their own rituls so that they celebrate
the name of God upon what we have
bestowed on them." Quran 22:34
(also see Quran 22:67)

"And had God Willed, He would have
made you one nation.." Quran 16:93

"We have made a law and methodology to
each nation; and had God willed He would
have made you one nation.." Quran 5:48

"Please note that the translation the newspaper did is very very deceitful. El Shater actually said to control the world, and take over the world, but the newspaper translated it 'to become world leaders.'"

Islamics' Sharia "taking over the world" is a 'Darth Vader wet-dream', same as every delirious tyrant ever had. They're pumping smoke for their primitive 7th c. barbaric Warlord's megalomaniac claims of glory and booty (especially women slaves) for his delusional alter-ego, Moon-god 'Allah'. Maybe in Egypt, or Pakistan, or Somalistan, or any other Islam infested 'stans of the globe, where they have to suffer Allah Hell™ - as part of their development from sub-human 'submission' slavery into the modern age of human rights and natural freedoms. But that is where it stops, and must be put down. There is no "world Islam" a coming, no future world Sharia, no world Caliphate - but a universal "world death" of Islam.

On this Easter Sunday, 2011, - remember humanity's future - not Islam's "death, death, death" theo- horrors... That is past. Today remember the Resurrection of all humanity...
Today we live!

Re:Armo

In the Tasir of Hafiz Ibn Kathir al-Damashqiti 24/55

"This is a promise from Allah to His Messenger that He would cause his Ummah to become successors on earth, i.e., they would become the leaders and rulers of mankind, through whom He would reform the world and to whom people would submit, so that they would have in exchange a safe security after their fear. This is what Allah did indeed do, may He be glorified and exalted, and to Him be praise and blessings. For He did not cause His Messenger to die until He had given him victory over Makkah, Khaybar, Bahrayn, all of the Arabian Peninsula and Yemen; and he took Jizyah from the Zoroastrians of Hajar and from some of the border lands of Syria; and he exchanged gifts with Heraclius the ruler of Byzantium, the ruler of Egypt and Alexandria, the Muqawqis, the kings of Oman and An-Najashi of Abyssinia, who had become king after Ashamah, may Allah have mercy on him and grant him honor. Then when the Messenger died, his successor (Khalifah) Abu Bakr As-Siddiq took over the reins of power and united the Ummah, preventing its disintegration. He took control of the entire Arabian Peninsula, and he sent the Islamic armies to the land of Persia, under the leadership of Khalid bin Al-Walid, may Allah be pleased with him, who conquered a part of it and killed some of its people. He sent another army under the leadership of Abu `Ubaydah, may Allah be pleased with him, and the other commanders who came after him in the lands of Syria. He sent a third army under the leadership of `Amr bin Al-`As, may Allah be pleased with him, to Egypt. Allah enabled the army sent to Syria to conquer Busra and Damascus and their provinces the land of Hawran and its environs. Then Allah chose for Abu Bakr to honor him with Him and he died. The people of Islam were blessed that As-Siddiq was inspired to appoint `Umar Al-Faruq as his successor, so he took the reins of power after him and did a perfect job. After the Prophets, the world never saw anyone like `Umar in excellence of conduct and perfect justice. During his time, the rest of Syria and Egypt, and most of Persia, was conquered. Kisra was defeated and utterly humiliated, and he retreated to the furthest point of his kingdom. Mighty Caesar was brought low, his rule over Syria was overthrown, and he retreated to Constantinople. Their wealth was spent for the sake of Allah, as the Messenger of Allah had foretold and promised. May Allah's perfect peace and purest blessing be upon him. During the rule of `Uthman, the Islamic domains spread to the furthest points of the earth, east and west. The lands of the west were conquered as far as Cyprus and Andalusia, Kairouan and Sebta which adjoins the Atlantic Ocean. Towards the east, the conquests extended as far as China. Kisra was killed, his kingdom was utterly destroyed and the cities of Iraq, Khurasan and Al-Ahwaz were conquered. The Muslims killed a great number of Turks and Allah humiliated their great king Khaqan. Taxes were collected from the east and the west, and brought to the Commander of the faithful `Uthman bin `Affan, may Allah be pleased with him. This was a blessing brought by his recitation and study of the Qur'an, and his bringing the Ummah together to preserve and protect it. In the Sahih it was recorded that the Messenger of Allah said:

(Allah showed me the earth and I looked at the east and the west. The dominion of my Ummah will reach everywhere I was shown.) And now we are enjoying that which Allah and His Messenger promised us, for Allah and His Messenger spoke the truth. We ask Allah to give us faith in Him and His Messenger, and to help us to give thanks to Him in a manner that will earn us His pleasure.

(Allah has promised those among you who believe and do righteous good deeds, that He will certainly grant them succession in the land, as He granted it to those before them, and that He will grant them the authority to practise their religion which He has chosen for them. And He will surely, give them in exchange a safe security after their fear...) Ar-Rabi` bin Anas narrated that Abu Al-`Aliyah said, "The Prophet and his Companions were in Makkah for nearly ten years, calling people in secret to worship Allah Alone with no partner or associate. They were in a state of fear and were not instructed to fight until after they were commanded to migrate to Al-Madinah. When they came to Al-Madinah, then Allah instructed them to fight. In Al-Madinah they were afraid and they carried their weapons morning and evening. This is how they remained for as long as Allah willed...'' Then Allah revealed this Ayah. He caused His Prophet to prevail over the Arabian Peninsula, and then they felt safe and put down their weapons. Then Allah took His Prophet and they remained safe throughout the time of Abu Bakr, `Umar and `Uthman, until what happened happened, and fear again prevailed over them, so they instituted a police force and guards. They changed, so their situation changed. One of the Salaf said, "The Khilafah of Abu Bakr and `Umar was true and adhered to the Book of Allah. Then he recited this Ayah.'' Al-Bara' bin `Azib said, "This Ayah was revealed when we were in a state of extreme fear.'' This Ayah is like the Ayah:

(And remember when you were few and were reckoned weak in the land) Until His statement:

(so that you might be grateful) ﴿8:26﴾.

(as He granted succession to those before them,) This is like the Ayah where Allah tells us that Musa said to his people:

("It may be that your Lord will destroy your enemy and make you successors on the earth...'') ﴿7:129﴾ And Allah says:

﴿وَنُرِيدُ أَن نَّمُنَّ عَلَى الَّذِينَ اسْتُضْعِفُواْ فِى الاٌّرْضِ﴾
(And We wished to do a favor to those who were weak in the land,) until the two Ayat there after. ﴿28: 5-6﴾

﴿وَلَيُمَكِّنَنَّ لَهُمْ دِينَهُمُ الَّذِى ارْتَضَى لَهُمْ﴾
(and that He will grant them the authority to practise their religion which He has chosen for them...) vAs the Messenger of Allah said to `Adiyy bin Hatim when he came to him in a delegation:

«أَتَعْرِفُ الْحِيرَةَ؟»
(Do you know Al-Hirah) He said, "I do not know it, but I have heard of it.'' The Messenger of Allah said:

«(By the One in Whose Hand is my soul, Allah will make this matter ﴿i.e., Islam﴾ prevail until a woman riding a camel will come from Al-Hirah and perform Tawaf around the House without needing the protection of anybody, and the treasures of Kisra the son of Hurmuz will be opened.) He said, "Kisra the son of Hurmuz''

(The rights that Allah has over His servants are that they should worship Him and not associate anything with Him.) Then a while passed, then he said,

(O Mu`adh bin Jabal.) I said, `Here I am at your service, O Messenger of Allah.' He said,

(Do you know the rights that people have over Allah if they do that) I said, `Allah and His Messenger know best.' He said,
(The rights that people have over Allah is that He will not punish them.)'' This was also recorded in the Two Sahihs.
(But whoever disbelieved after this, they are the rebellious.) means, `whoever then stops obeying Me after that, has stopped obeying the command of his Lord, and that is a great sin.' The Companions -- may Allah be pleased with them -- were the most committed of people after the Prophet to the commands of Allah and the most obedient to Allah. Their victories were in accordance with their level of commitment. They caused the Word of Allah to prevail in the east and the west, and Allah supported them so much that they governed all the people and all the lands. When the people subsequently fell short in their commitment to some of the commandments, their strength and victory fell short accordingly, but it is confirmed through more than one route in the Two Sahihs that the Messenger of Allah said:

(There will remain a group of my Ummah adhering to the truth, and those who forsake them or oppose them will not harm them until the Day of Resurrection. ) According to another report:

(.. until the command of Allah comes to pass and they are like that.) According to another report:

(... until they fight the Dajjal.) According to another report:

«(... until `Isa bin Maryam comes down and they are prevailing.) All of these reports are Sahih, and there is no contradiction between them."

In other words Islam will dominate until the Islamic armies fight against the ad-Dijaal al-Masih or until Esa ibn Maryam descends from heaven. There are more examples but I am not able to find them at the moment.

Re: UnidHali

I scanned on your post searching for Quranic verses
and I found nothing to support any argument against what I wrote. Ibn Kathir or any other book outside the Quran including the books of Hadith does not constitute Islam.
Islam is an Arabic word meaning surrendering peacefully to God mentioned in the Quran. The Quran, which means The Reading or the Recital is believed by believers to be the word of God recited via Mohammad. So really Islam is the Quran and the Quran is Islam.

On page 222 (326 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, he affirms that those who do not follow him will be slaughtered.

Abu jahl said to them: "Muhammad alleges that if you follow him you will be kings of the Arabs and the Persians. Then after death you will be raised to gardens like those of the Jordan. But if you do not follow him you will be slaughtered, and when you are raised from the dead you will be burned in the fire of hell." The apostle [Muhammad] came out to them with a handful of dust saying: "I do say that."

Anyone who tells you that the Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim hadith collections, and several other hadith collections, are not important for Islam, is either misinformed, or is considered by mainstream Islam to be a heretic, or is lying to you.

In the Qur'an "Allah" says at least 25 times that Muhammad is to be obeyed. That is one reason why the vast majority of Muslim scholars accept the Bukhari hadith collection and a few other hadith collections as authoritative for Muslims: canonical hadiths show what Muhammad did and said, permitted and forbade. (There are other hadith collections, of course, that mainstream Muslim scholars reject.) Muslim scholars consider the Bukhari and Sahih Muslim hadith collections second only to the Qur'an. The Qur'an cannot be understood without the Sunna, that is, the example of Muhammad in the canonical hadiths and the earliest biographies. Some of the so-called five pillars of Islam are not even mentioned in the Qur'an, so it is impossible to practice orthodox Islam without the canonical hadith. "Qur'an only" Muslims are a tiny minority, and considered heretical.

Second, the idea that Ibn Kathir is not important for mainstream Islam is false. For example,

Tafsir Ibn Kathir...is the most popular interpretation of the Qur'an in the Arabic language, and the majority of the Muslims consider it to be the best source based on Qur'an and Sunnah.

About Hadith: You be the Judge

All of it was written down 200 to 300 yrs in Bagdad Iraq after Mohamad had died. It is considered heresy in the court. Plus why Mohamad or the first three successors of Mohamad did not write down any Hadith?

In Egypt for example the mainstream say sunna to keep the 5 prayers as it is performed, since it is not mentioned in the Quran nor it is mentioned in Hadith either. They reject most of the Hadith, however, including stories relating to verses of the Quran; and judge Hadith based on the content not based on the chain of narrators. They call it reason vs. transferring. Of course they can't do that with the Quran. They simply judge Hadith by the Quran and not the other way around.

The Muslim brotherhood in Egypt use Islam to get elected. When asked which kind of Islam they have in mind they shy away so as to represent everybody, including the rival Salafis and Sufis. But they see the current Islamic ruling party in Turkey as their model.

Some of the comments seem to have gotten off topic. If the Muslim Brotherhood is a political organization whose goal is to set up a new government, doesn't that mean all representatives of the Brotherhood fall into the category of The Foreign Agents Registration Act? I just looked this up in Wikipedia. The Foreign Agents Registration Act is a United States law (22 U.S.C. § 611 et seq.) passed in 1938 requiring that agents representing the interests of foreign powers be properly identified to the American public. The act was passed in response to German propaganda in the lead-up to World War II. The Foreign Agent Registration Unit within the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice is charged with handling the enforcement of the law.

I seem to recall back in the 1960's that our government wanted to register members of the Communist Party under this law.

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Hassan Al-Banna was an unapologetic Islamic Imperialist...

"Or if they mean by "patriotism" the conquest of countries and lordship over the earth, Islam has already ordained that, and has sent out conquerors to carry out the most gracious of colonizations and the most blessed of conquests. This is what He, the almighty, says: "Fight them till there is no longer discord, and the religion is Allah‘s" [Q.2:193]."

"Six Tracts of Hassan Al-Bana': A Selection from the Majmu'at Rasa'il al-Imam al-Shahid Hasan al-Banna' (1906-1949)", "Our Mission", Hassan al-Banna‘, http://www.scribd.com/doc/24054930/Majmu-at-Rasa-il-al-Imam-al-Shahid-Hasan-al-Banna

Hassan Al-Banna was an unapologetic Islamic Imperialist...

"Or if they mean by "patriotism" the conquest of countries and lordship over the earth, Islam has already ordained that, and has sent out conquerors to carry out the most gracious of colonizations and the most blessed of conquests. This is what He, the almighty, says: "Fight them till there is no longer discord, and the religion is Allah‘s" [Q.2:193]."

"Six Tracts of Hassan Al-Bana': A Selection from the Majmu'at Rasa'il al-Imam al-Shahid Hasan al-Banna' (1906-1949)", "Our Mission", Hassan al-Banna‘, http://www.scribd.com/doc/24054930/Majmu-at-Rasa-il-al-Imam-al-Shahid-Hasan-al-Banna