Top Iranian General: "Western states must pay respect to Muslims' holy book, the Qur'an, as much as they show interest in maintaining strong ties with Middle Eastern countries and their oil"

Ah, a General Anthony McAuliffe kind of reply. My compliments.

And seeing as how Allah is an entity unbounded will whose wrath knows no bounds, Muslims would perceive a desperate need to counter this attack with utmost violence -- to appease Allah.

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Muslims believe that camel urine is a cure-all. Why don't you demand that Rite-Aids from coast to coast begin stocking it?

Muslims are the biggest burners of Korans. Why don't you go back to the Middle East and reason with THEM? What's that? You ARE a Muslim? Well, I'll be dipped in shellac!!!

Perhaps we need a quantum leap to end things once and for all, sooner rather than later. Both "sooner" or "later" will be bloody to be sure, thanks to the world's worst religion of all time, but "later" arguably would be far bloodier. Might as well get it over with sooner, no? If you have a cogent argument for "later," I would be respectfully interested in hearing it.

Why don't you come clean and admit you're a Muslim?

Lennie, having lived abroad myself,knowing an important non-Western language (Chinese), and now being employed as a teacher of English for Speakers of Other Languages, I know that much of the world has virtually no understanding of the First Amendment of the US Constitution.

Frankly, I think Terry Jones is wrong to burn the Qur'an. I wouldn't even burn the works of Lenin and Mao (I am an anti-Communist, as well as an anti-Jihadist). But I am also upset that our US Government let slip this chance to remind the world that the same First Amendment that allowed Roger Baldwin to openly yearn for the day when the last Senator would be strangled with the guts of the last preacher and now allows imams all over the USA to call the Jews relatives of apes and pigs also allows Terry Jones to burn the Qur'an.

According to me (and a lot of people like me), the Bible is the Word of God given through the prophets and apostles. I hear people insult it day in and day out, including in some of the most ignorant ways, but I am not out to cut off anyone's head or provoke a riot in the street. And, while I feel it is a grievous insult to the honor of God's name and to me personally, I am not advocating a nuclear detonation over Sa'udi Arabia for its treatment of Christians and the Bible.

I've received kind and hospitable treatment at Muslim hands myself, and I would hate for physical evil to fall on the heads of the people who so dealt with me, even if I believe Islam to be a false religion. But, perhaps it is time for someone to remind the Muslim world that if it doesn't want to provoke an inter-civilizational war, it needs to address the actions of some of its own members who seem Hell-bent (and I believe there is such an eschatological destination) to provoke such a thing.

//Stop it at all costs//

Next time, don't give an infidel a command to obey. Your Islamist nature was easily revealed by all.

Lennie, I totally agree with you that the evil quran should never be burnt.

The koran and the other original Islamic texts should be read, re-read, and thoroughly understood for the terribly evil religious ideology that it most certainly are...

While we're at it, our government's public diplomacy would also be well-advised to remind the world that unlike a lot of the authoritarian, socialist, monarchical, and hierocratic Islamic world (I will not dignify Muslim states with the titel "theocratic", which means rule of God), the US government does not control what churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, debating societies, etc. preach or teach; nor does it control the things on which the media reports and comments--nor can it, thanks to the First Amendment.

Now, I do not want war, which, apparently, is what the likes of Firouzabadi seems to want. But, if it comes, I hope that our forces have the imagination and intelligence to use the arrogance and supremacism of such men to lead them into traps of which Sun Zi would be proud.

While I'm at it Lennie, and at the risk of sounding trite, thanks for your service (and to all other vets on JW).

Lennie, with respect, your advice is both unoriginal and seriously misguided. It is not only insulting to non-Muslims who might question Islam's claim to "specialness" over other religions, it gives Muslims an excuse for committing all manner of violence in the name of Islam that is, ultimately, uncivilized, barbaric and unworthy of any place in the civilized world. Your attitude only helps to legitimize and perpetuate Islamic aggression.

You are an appeaser, Lennie, an apologizer for Islamic outrage, one who is apparently more concerned about protecting the feelings of those who would kill over minor slights than the rights of their victims.

When the showdown comes between the civilized world and Islam, as I think it will, I sure don't want you guarding my flanks, Lennie.

Cheers Wells, watching the NHL playoffs tonight or is hockey not your bag? Cheers Bro

So, by your own admission, islam is a religion of thugs and allah is their thug-in-chief: an evil god in need of appeasement through murder and mayhem? Obviously! Hmm ...

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Hey it makes perfect sense to me, guys! ...so of course we should respect the qur'an.

/sarc

...crap'on is more like it.

Here, let this unholy book crap'on your mind, your life, and the world at large! ...toilet paper is all it's truly good for.

How are things going with your meetings at the downtown Vancouver library, SOF?

Care to elaborate?

Good to hear from you, Saleem. Hockey is not one of the sports dearest to my heart. It's football, track and field and basketball in that order. Still, I do watch a little hockey here and there and know several Flyers' fans. They've got to be satisfied tonight what with Philadelphia's win over Buffalo.

As for your last post about Mohammed being one "sick and evil human being," I couldn't agree more. Mohammed has psychopathy and fraud written all over him. Why anyone would admire this miscreant is beyond me. I can understand admiration of Jesus, Buddha, Confucius, Lao-Tzu, Zoroaster and other religious and ethical founders, but Mohammed? No wonder devout Muslims are so screwed up (and violence prone) and so-called moderate Muslims function in a world of confusion. Hope you're well, my friend. Enjoy your hockey viewing. Being a Canadian as you are, I understand your affection for the game. After all, in Canada hockey is religion (and a much better one at that than Islam).

Hello, Seleem, thanks for asking.

Our meetings have come to a close for a while, at least until we find someone willing to carry on full-time in my place. I'm giving up on Canada and moving to some warmer place to finish a long project I'm ready to bring to the world. I have two books typed and more or less ready to go to the publisher. Some details still to work out. Then I will follow up with a five volume work on the History of Ideas, none of which ideas are particularly mine. I just do the research and the writing. It's hard to find time, what with all my ceremonial Qur'an burning.

Kepha was kind enough to offer some good insights into Laos, though I'm not sure when I'll arrive there to make use of them. Other places beckon. I'm not sure yet which call I will respond to. Will carry on as before, assuming I find locals interested in fighting jihad in their homelands. Meanwhile, I assume I'll be here as well.

Hockey. I don't know what that's about. It's nothing to do with jihad, so I don't pay attention. Best of luck, Vancouver.

Thanks for asking, Saleem.

Wellington coming from you, I take that as the kindest compliment from a brother in this fight. I have admired your comments for a long time and have learned from many. Keep it up. Your presence

Coming from you my friend, I take it as a great compliment. I enjoy your notes and repostes here. Take care.

haa! cheers, Wells. The Canadian hockey teams are going strong tonight...

Consider not jumping off to Laos and parts unknown so soon, buddy, the secular democracies of North America are well worth saving..

Consider not jumping off to Laos and parts unknown so soon, buddy, the secular democracies of North America are well worth saving..

Right On!

And I'd rather have it sooner since I think that this coming conflict, bloody as it will be, is inevitable.
The more we wait the bloodier it's gonna get.
But we need our leaders on our side in this, which we don't have at the moment. It won't take long though.

The times they are a changing.

Lennie, I see by doing my homework, that you appear to be one of us, and generally well on our side of viewing these heavy issues. I tend to share much of Kepha's remarks, and some of some others regarding your current post here. However I see your rhetorical concern, too.

Problem is they are all on that famous war footing you have expressed previously elsewhere, due to koran, no changing this. Though there might, in a less warring cult, be nuances, koran is set up and evolved as an absolute. Ultimately, there will be no alternative, but the usual outcome. That being confronting the conquering war based nature of the koran, and islam, of the too long history with islam--war-- in its full physical manifestation.

Islam has always ultimately,(typically working up in stages,) demanded war! So be it. For them, that is what mo set up the cult to master, among so many other evils, and from time to time, through the centuries, they have, gone to physical war--always otherwise scheming at lesser war/jihad, though.

So burning a bunch of worthless satan's fires-mo's koran, however silly, is symbolic, and if they are so situated, so vainglorious, let them know our disrespect for such hatred and rage that is contained in their self-chosen destiny.

Interesting post. I think you're right that in the devout Muslim's mind the Qur'an virtually IS Allah. But I think the reason this underlies the hysterical & murderous reactions to the Qur'an burnings is not so much because it attacks Allah as it discredits him and perforce everything Muslims have been brought up to revere, including family honor (less honorable if they are just dupes), Islamic conquests, history, etc. It all gets discredited as if Allah could not allow his burning. So I think a few burnings might have the effect you suggest - few is dangerous - but a great many Qur'an burnings would virtually destroy Islam. Allah then would be burned to death, as it were, for the fake he & his lying "prophet" must be.

A great many, thousands, of Qur'an burnings, preferably all over the West, cannot easily be engineered. Hence, perhaps a few occasional burnings is not to be recommended. Still, our government cannot and must not try to stifle our precious constitutional freedom of expression.

Call me Lennie wrote:

Robert, I was once an Arab linguist and Middle East analyst for the 4th PSYOPS Group in the late Eighties and early Nineties, and I have grave concerns about Americans burning the Quran, in that it could in that it could push key Middle East nations towards the Islamist camp with dire and historic consequences
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Lennie, you sound like an intelligent fellow—but consider what you are saying here.

You are letting the most irrational and violent element determine what may and may not be spoken of, and what may or may not be criticized by free people.

Consider, also, that any "key Middle East nation" that might be sufficiently influenced by one private citizen's Qu'ran bbq is *already* in the "Islamist camp".

More:

So here is my concern. According to Muslims, the Quran is the word of Allah himself. But more than that it is, by virtue of tawhid, Allah himself. So a desecration of the Quran is an attack on Allah himself. And seeing as how Allah is an entity unbounded will whose wrath knows no bounds, Muslims would perceive a desperate need to counter this attack with utmost violence -- to appease Allah.
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And this should be allowed to dictate constraints on the freedoms of the civilized West...why, exactly?

Muslims are also offended when Kaffirs criticize child marriage, polygamy, forced veiling, forced conversions, and the stoning of women.

Does that mean we should allow these things, as well, lest we offend Muslims?

More:

And if this is the case, a desecration and particularly a burning is a quantum leap beyond other provocations and simply has to be stopped at all costs. lest all out war breaks out
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"Stopped at all costs"—what exactly would you suggest? Should we imprison our citizens for burning the Qu'ran? Should we execute them? Should we allow homicidal Muslim mobs to burn the homes and churches of their neighbors?

Muslims have practiced all of the above in response to Qu'ran burning, so this is hardly a rhetorical question.

Presumably your work for PSYOPS involved protecting our freedoms. How does appeasing the very worst in our enemies accomplish this?

Oops, sorry for mistake:
"we had to re-write quotes from Lenin & Co.' = we had to copy them in our copybooks, not rewrite, of course.

Nina, I understand your feelings about burning the works of Lenin. I lived in Mainland China not too long after 1989, and the Romanian Embassy's getting flooded with congratulatory messages from ordinary Chinese after the execution of China's "special friend" Ceaucescu. For myself, I was just raised in a very bourgeois American setting that valued reading and inquiry, and hence would've preferred people like Jones to speak out rather than burn things.

As you've probably guessed from a lot of my posts, I'm a Bible-oriented Christian. Hence, when war breaks out, a part of me wonders if this isn't God engaging in temporal judgments on peoples and nations. Since my religion teaches about divine love and grace, I have little affinity for war, even though I recognize it must happen from time to time (perhaps one reason why I find Islam as a religion unattractive).

I understand and agree with what you say about war and its possible outcomes.

However, there is a further possibility. I believe that both your old country's former leadership AND people like Firouzabadi see weakness in American self-criticism, preference for negotiated settlement, and tendency to give institutions a chance to do their work. But, like everyone else in the world, we have our "tipping points", as you've probably found out by now. When we reach our "tipping points", we can be just as ugly as any other people (we are, after all, a country that freely talks about our unhappy tradition of lynching). Hence, when people like Firouzabadi and your Egyptian "Prince Charming" think they're chipping away at a rotting colossus, they may well be setting themselves up for getting a giant fist banging down on their heads--or, perhaps, getting buried under a pile of falling rubble.

You wrote:
“they may well be setting themselves up for getting a giant fist banging down on their heads” – OH HOW MUCH I WISH THEY WERE!!!!
Yesterday I spoiled my remaining paschal-elated spirit (I always feel “high” after attending the Easter Mass) by watching a program on German TV-channel ZDF about ethnic German kids in a German school in Duisburg being in minority – in their own land. Although the program was supposed to be made along as politically correct lines as possible, these kids looked downtrodden and intimidated. Islamists are already celebrating their victory in many countries and at many fronts...

“Since my religion teaches about divine love and grace, I have little affinity for war” – no Christian has affinity for war or any violence, for that matter. However, there was some time ago a brilliant article on this site (written, if I’m not much mistaken, by Mr Shirk) about how countries and societies must protect themselves and that such protection is not a violation of the God’s laws.

BTW, one of the greatest shepherds of the flock of Orthodox Christians, Metropolitan Antony of Surozh, whose family emigrated from Russia to Paris after the Communist revolution in 1917, was an active Resistance fighter in the days of Nazi occupation of France (although he had been ordained already by then)…

May I ask you one OT-question: if you want to look up a Chinese word in a dictionary, how do you find one? I mean, there can't be any arrangement according to an alphabetical order, or?

Nina

thank you for that very interesting post: about your dawning awareness of Muslim hatred toward America.

A very happy and blessed Easter to you, my Russian Christian sister. Easter is *my* favourite time of the Christian year, as well. My heart always lifts when the deacon raises the newly lit candle and sings, "The Light of Christ!" and we all sing back to her, "Thanks be to God!"

May the true and living and holy God defend and save Russia - and America - and India - and Israel - and many, many other countries - from the Jihad.

The same to you! At our church, he sings "Christ is risen!" (Hristos voskrese!) and we answer "Risen indeed!" (Voistinu voskrese!)

P.S. I became a Harry Potter addict since my daughter begged me to buy the first book and I had to search through several bookshops in Moscow selling literature in English in order to get one (she had health problems and was, like, "imprisoned" at home for 6 months, so fulfilling her wish, however insignificant it could seem, was very important). Procuring the book cost much time and effort and made me curious to find out what's so special about it, so I started to read it myself and was lost for the outside world till its last page... That is to explain that I feel a certain warmth when I read your comments with this nick on the top (and they are always very informative, thank you)

The koran and Allah/Mohammed are antiCHRIST! I WILL NEVER BOW BEFORE THESE EVIL DEMONS AND THEIR UNHOLY BOOK! God Himself will cast them into the lake of fire that never will be extinguished. The koran should not be burned because it causes air pollution but can be used as a substitute for toilet paper (no recycling needed) as it composts very well!

And may Russia stop financing and training Chechen and Abkhaz Mujahideen who chopped the heads off Orthodox Christian Georgians.

Abkhaz are MUSLIMS. to this day Russia is still backing up their separatist republic Abkahzia against georgia and the Abkhaz, the russians, and the chechen special forces "vostok and zapad" under Russian command, fought together against the Georgians.

http://lenta.ru/news/2008/08/11/vostok/

And you fool, India has had two muslim Presidents- Zakir Hussain and Abdul Kalam, and it also does not discrimante in its army recruiting on basis of religion. tons of muslims serve in the Indian Army.

And muslim chechen and dagestani units also make up portions of the Russian Army.
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As I said already, Russia is not concerned about alleged "threats" from Islam

In the 19th century, they offered sanctuary to Hui rebels under Bai Yanhu, now hui in central asia are known as "dungan", they were fleeing from loyalist Hui and Han troops under General Ma Anliang and Dong Fuxiang who persued them all the way into Russia.

Bai Yanhu was in league with Yaqub Beg, the Ottoman empire supported emir who tried to kill all Hui in the urumqi and turfan regions. Yaqub was also a big fan of Sharia law.

Russia attempted to use Bai, and in addition to his rebel hui troops, turkic tribes to invade china and seize kashgar, but they were defeated

On the second picture in this threat, is of one of the hui rebels (known as Dungan people) dressed up in Russian military uniform since he is in the Russian army.

http://www.huizucn.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=26564&extra=page%3D2

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Russia tried to mess with muslims in China, propagandzing among the Kirghiz and Uyghurs, and trying to lure Hui people out of China into Russia, and allying with the Uyghur separatist Republics.

Loyalist Muslim Hui troops in the Chinese army crushed all muslim rebellions in western China, perhaps the Russians had their fingerprints in over half of them.

The American Upton Close, testified that starving White Russian refugees, (despite all the jews they massacred to death in Russia), were given a sack of flour each day by the Hui General Ma Fuxiang in China to assist them in traveling to Manchuria via Suiyuan.

Read his book -"In the Land of the Laughing Buddha The Adventures of An American Barbarian"

the White Russian refugees were ungrateful and bitterly complained that the sack of flour each day was not enough and they couldn't cook it.

General Ma was displaying muslim hospitality and sharing his rations, but the ungrateful refugees, (who previously attacked China repeatedly, General Ma himself led muslim Hui troops to battle Russian forces in the Boxer Rebellion), still complained.

However, when White Russians and the Soviets joined their evil forces in 1934 to try to attack the Hui 36th Division, they got their butt kicked, with the entire Russian force stalled in battle, despite having tanks and artillery and planes for an entire month by Hui troops with horses, sustaining heavy losses.

Your posts are turgid, boring, irrelevant and, most important, inaccurate. I'll give you just one example (there are so many that could be provided) to prove this. Here it is: You asserted in your 3:16 P.M. post that "White Russians and the Soviets joined their evil forces in 1934..."

Well, there were no White forces left whatsoever in 1934. The Russian Civil War between Whites and Reds concluded in 1921 and NO White forces continued to exist into the 1930s. You spouted nonsense here, as you always do. And to read your accusation that someone else is a fool is comedic in the extreme. Look in the nearest mirror for the fool du jour. Go away. You're a loser and have nothing of importance to offer to any sensible human being. Besides, you're also very boring and tedious. Actually, I can't detect a single attractive feature that you possess. Not one. You're that much of a loser.

Rats! I no longer have Chinese WP on this machine, but I can give you an idea of how to look up a Hanzi (Chinese character).

One part of a Hanzi is called its radical. In the traditional dictionary, there are about 214 of them listed according to the number of strokes of the pen it takes to write them. Since the Communist revolution debased the Chinese language (just as they did the Russian, according to some whom I have heard, but must take on faith), the number of radicals have decreased and, it seems, are invariably either the topmost component of the Hanzi or its left-hand side.

after you have ascertained the radical portion of the Hanzi, count the remaining strokes, and go to the portion of the dictionary for that radical. Find the ones with the number of strokes apart from the radical (the sections will be arranged as Hanzi with one more stroke, two more strokes, three more strokes, etc.), and look through the list until you find it.

Also, you can count the number of strokes in the whole Hanzi, go to the portion of Hanzi with that number of strokes (there's usually such an index), and look under the first stroke of the Hanzi (yes, the Hanzi have to be written in order; they're not just scratchings), go down the list, and look on the page to which you're directed.

I hope this is helpful. BTW, to you, Dumbledore's, and everyone else (including Horse),

FUHUO JIE KUAI LE! (Happy Easter)

Actually, Eastern Turkestan did have bands of armed White Russian mercenaries down into the '30's. Some of the governors favored them as guards because of their aloofness from the region's ethnic brawls.

I can't completely agree with you about Horse. I see his posts reflecting the perspective of a Hui, which is an Islamic culture that has lived for more than a millennium as a minority group in the non-Muslim Chinese milieu.

Blockead. Thousands of white russians lived in the Ili region of Xinjiang in China after fleeing from the civil war.

Sven Hedin himself wrote a book about his travels in the province, including meeting with white russian officers who were serving with soviet forces.

History does not just stop at the edges of Europe's borders, as some, like you, in the west think.

I suppose these "White Russians" mentioned multiple times by westerners traveling in 1934 in Xinjiang province of China, like Sven Hedin, Peter Fleming, are drug induced hallucinations.

http://oxuscom.com/sovinxj.htm

Read "The Silk Road: Ten Thousand Miles Through Central Asia" by Mr. Hedin before assuming you are a know it all.

It would also do you good to read "News from Tartary: A Journey from Peking to Kashmir" by Peter Fleming and "Sinkiang: Pawn or Pivot", and "Warlords and Muslims in Chinese Central Asia: a political history of Republican Sinkiang 1911-1949"

"Sinkiang: Pawn or Pivot", was written by the Governor of xinjiang himself, Sheng shicai (when he was in exile in taiwan), who had white russians in his army.

"Turkistan tumult", written by Wu Aichen, an official in Xinjiang, mentions white russians numerous times, and also mentions the Soviet invaders

I can even name the White Russian General who served under the Soviets himself, Bektieieff. He was met by Sven Hedin personally, who wrote of the encounter.

It was reported that Russian troops ended up "covered with bandages", and Fleming himself mentions the Russians had to use poison gas in battle to win. The White Russians and Soviets were called "Altai Volunteers", as mentioned by Alan S. Whiting, who coauthored Sheng Shicai's book.

I can only conclude you are an cretin who only knows about Eurpean history and assumes the world revolves around the west.

I have read western literature and know full well about the Russian Civil war, including the mass murder of Jews by the White Russian forces.

Ah, you are correct, Kepha, and I feel caught on a technicality. OK, remnants of White Forces did exist into the 1930s but even I, devoted to history as I am, find this almost completely irrelevant to the matter at hand today---Islam's supremacist designs emboldened by its deeply parasitic nature. Really, how does the history of the Hui apply in any germane way to the current struggle at hand? Also, Horse's contention that Russia is not concerned with alleged threats from Islam is belied by my own experience. I know several Russians personally and these in turn know far more Russians and it is crystal clear to me that Russians are deeply repulsed by Islam. They really don't like it one bit. As one Russian I know quite well told me, he has become very tired of Islam. Very.

Horse, you and Wellington are both people for whom I have a fair amount of respect, despite differences of opinion on a number of points.

To both of you, I am going to backtrack on name-calling.

Horse, since you know where my blog is, I'd be grateful if you could send me some bibliography on Xinjiang/East Turkistan, Hui culture and history, and the like. I'll accept authors and titles in either English or Chinese.

The Russian government is very different from the Russian people.

Theres a reason why we call it "election rigging".

An Indian muslim in the Indian military, or a Muslim president of India, would be as much of an enemy to Hui or Salar serving in the army, as would any other non muslim.

Some even defected to the Communists, like a Salar officer, Han Youwen, or General Ma Hongbin. They would not view Indian muslims serving in the Indian army as friends.

Former Indian muslim president Abdul Kalam is the "father of India's missle program", and a proponent of India's nuclear weapons, having worked on the project himself, since he is an engineer.

Many muslims worked on India's nuclear program, like Abdul Kalam, and were in full control of the keys, schematics, everthing- NOTHING HAPPENED. I didn't see them give the nuclear plans and schematics to saudi arabia or other muslim countries.

http://www.google.fr/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=abdul+kalam+nucleary#sclient=psy&hl=fr&tbo=1&tbm=bks&source=hp&q=abdul+kalam+nuclear&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=2e64fb3b9237506b&biw=975&bih=628

He says he believes nukes are a good thing, and they would make India a "superpower", in the region. I believe he means it in imperialist terms. I have read this man's quotes and he sounds like an obnoxious boaster, a bragger. I don't know why South Koreans think his books are worth reading.

http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?354077

If Hui General Bai Chongxi were still defence minister of China, all he would see in Abdul Kalam would be an arrogant enemy asking for a pre emptive strike. Bai Chongxi gave a speech on the threat of India, since India was effectively allied to the Soviet Union (via the fake "non aligned movement", of which many countries were soviet bloc partners), and Bai was on taiwan.

Bai viewed British India, Japan, and the Soviet Union all as strategic threats and wanted them all taken out of action.

However, according to DDA, all muslims are engaged in a telepathic communications network with each other, plotting worldwide domination despite the fact that most live in very much enemy countries and serve the state.

I wonder how DDA got the password to the network? Is Abdul Kalam currently signed in and communicating mentally with black muslims in Mali who don't speak the same language as him?

Wellington is right ...you are a bore, especially since you cannot stay on topic on any given thread; and now you should change your moniker to "lil' gelding" since he pretty much castrated you, and knocked you down to a pint-sized pony. Well deserved, I might add.

Hey consider starting your own blog so you can post your mindless musings there, for those that might be interested.

But then what would be the fun in that, right? I think you actually enjoy getting off topic here and being a horse's pain in the ass ...

actually, "chimp", it was I who knocked Wellington's credentials off his hat when I proved that his statement about White Russians not existing in the 1930's were wrong

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/top-iranian-general-western-states-must-pay-respect-to-muslims-holy-book-the-quran-as-much-as-they-s.html#comment-782548

He himself admitted his error

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/top-iranian-general-western-states-must-pay-respect-to-muslims-holy-book-the-quran-as-much-as-they-s.html#comment-782555

Again, I will post another link showing white russians existed in 1930s China

http://www.google.fr/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=white+russians+1930%27s+china

http://www.google.fr/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=white+russians+1930%27s+china#sclient=psy&hl=fr&tbo=1&tbm=bks&source=hp&q=white+russians+1930%27s+xinjiang&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=2e64fb3b9237506b

I think it is you who is castrated. a castrated dog, who is blind as well, since he cannot read, "chimp".

Russia desired good relations with the OIC (organization of islamic conference)

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2004/02/02/russia-woos-islamic-world-quest-oic-membership.html

Russia is even an observer at the OIC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:OIC_map.png

I think it is you who is castrated. a castrated dog, who is blind as well, since he cannot read, "chimp".

http://www.primates.com/chimps/chimpanzee-picture.jpg

Buraq- "What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander."

انت حمار

The only clowns are the people who are burning holy books in order to attract attention.

lil' gelding,

Don't make me laugh ...

Wellington will always stand head and shoulders above you, so you have GOT to be kidding; and White Russians - or no White Russians, you still have a mountain to climb before appearing even remotely credible YOURSELF! Forget about Wellington's credibility, which is wholly intact - you're the one with the credibility problem, lol! But of course you're completely blind to this fact ...

And your comments are still off-topic and boring - so what about that issue?

Yeah you have a mountain to climb alright, and you'll never knock out Wellington - or even be on par with him at the rate you're going; or with any of the other good and decent posters here, since all you've done over the months is attack one good poster after another. All you contribute is toxic waste, so be gone. You're a jackass and you should be banned. For good ...

...tick, tock!

Thank you for your very kind support, champ.

You're welcome, Wellington! :)

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01244/baby-chimp_1244462c.jpg

@Buraq and Chimp

أنت بن حمار، يا كلبي

Chimp- when was the last time you said something factual?

I was responding to DDA's fully offtopic comment about India and Russia, which have nothing to do with this Iranian General, and your mistaken views regarding Russian policy in the region.

Deebartok ...

Please write Robert by sending him a direct message, since he has stated in the past that he doesn't always have time to read through the comments section, so it's quite possible that hes missed your request here.

Take care :)

this is coming from a moron who has resorted to vulgar uncensored name calling, and issued repeated death threats against me.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/germany-i-wanted-to-be-free----muslim-model-upsets-family-by-posing-nude-for-playboy-cover.html#comment-780236

not to mention i did not even initiate my first "encouter with you", and neither did you ask any questions, but went straight to calling me an "asshole", and issuing requests for my death.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/01/philippines-misunderstanders-of-islam-murder-five-wound-13-in-jihad-attack-on-crowded-bus.html#comment-752701

You sound like a primary school kid.

In any case, Traeh engages in spamming multiple hadiths for no apparent reason than the sake of doing so, and temporarily took his time off from this habit to issue a totally false statement on how china appointed a "second dalai lama" (never happened), and responding to me talking about thailand and taiwan, and Pre communist china, by saying that Communists in china don't allow religions freedom.

I wanted to know if traeh was just ignorant or stupid regarding these errors he made.

and his spamming of hadiths have absolutely nothing to do with article topics-

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/jihad-bomb-murders-14-in-marrakesh-cafe.html#comment-782987

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/jihad-bomb-murders-14-in-marrakesh-cafe.html#comment-782985

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/jihad-bomb-murders-14-in-marrakesh-cafe.html#comment-782988

"Horse" wrote:

In any case, Traeh engages in spamming multiple hadiths for no apparent reason than the sake of doing so
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What crap. The Hadiths Traeh cites almost always have a direct relation to whatever Muslim atrocity is being featured in the main article. The Hadith or Qu'ran quotes frequently illustrate how Muslims use Islamic texts to justify their vicious acts.

Traeh's posts are quite enlightening, and I appreciate his scholarship. I know I am not alone here.

And to Deebartok—please don't let Muslim trolls like "Horse" drive you away. I wrote a longer reply to you on the other thread.

"And to Deebartok—please don't let Muslim trolls like 'Horse' drive you away."

I agree, Gravenimage ...yet I do understand why Deebartok has chosen to take a stand. Ironically, Horse will eventually get banned, so there's really no need for Deebartok to leave. You and I have been around JW for quite some time, so we know that Horse is wearing out his welcome and that he will be gone soon.

If you seriously think this guy is leaving, you are either what deerbatok called me here or faking your suprise at his "leaving" This site.

All I see is an attention seeking, immature brat with "3rd grade reading/critical thinking skills" faking his "leaving" this site, over him making numerous death threats and curses to other users.

Show me where I have uttered a curse word without blacking out part of it with symbols like *, without that curse being merely a response to someone who already cursed at me first.

Lets see the master "deebeartok"'s little tantrums-

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"AND my wife is Filipina, asshole. My kids are half."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/01/philippines-misunderstanders-of-islam-murder-five-wound-13-in-jihad-attack-on-crowded-bus.html#comment-752704

"not to mention i did not even initiate my first "encouter with him", and neither did he ask any questions, but went straight to calling me an "asshole", and issuing requests for my death."
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"GO DIE!

YOU AND YOUR DUMBASS "students" - whatever that has to do with one nitwit blowing himself to bits, I haven't a clue..."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/gaza-jihadi-accidentally-blows-himself-up-without-murdering-any-infidels.html#comment-779039
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And over here, deebartok displays his intelligence regarding Malaysia, failing to understand that Malay law says that muslims are RACIALLY Malay

"For God's sake - oops! Allah's, or whatever, just give it up. You don't get it. ISLAM IS NOT A RACE! You are a Muslim and your arguments, simply, do not follow"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/malaysia-non-muslims-who-quote-quran-can-be-arrested.html#comment-776279

Mr. deebartok apparently failed to read the article, where it said RIGHT in the article that -“This is to ensure that racial harmony is maintained,” he told Datuk Ibrahim Ali (Ind-Pasir Mas)."

deebartok, AKA supreme moron, apparently has never been to Malaysia, otherwise he would have understood that Malay RACIAL supremacy is enshrined in the laws, through Article 153 of the Malaysian Constiution, in which Ketuanan Melayu (malay supremacy) is written into law above all other races.

Thanks all for the pissing contest (enlightening as it has been) Ive learned so much by the banter-- Please do continue--dont go away--dont ban away--this is how we all learn! Cant we all get along!!!! I know, lets all sing "gume buy yall" signed--Rodney King ------------Sorry, couldnt resist the levity break---its late and I ate too many Reece's Pieces.-----Play nice, and to all a "Good Night" !!( I think I should have said Horsey Piss-- What do you all think)?

Thanks all for the pissing contest (enlightening as it has been) Ive learned so much by the banter-- Please do continue--dont go away--dont ban away--this is how we all learn! Cant we all get along!!!! I know, lets all sing "gume buy yall" signed--Rodney King ------------Sorry, couldnt resist the levity break---its late and I ate too many Reece's Pieces.-----Play nice, and to all a "Good Night" !!( I think I should have said Horsey Piss-- What do you all think)?