The defendant's outburst doesn't appear to have helped the attorney's "bless his heart, the boy ain't right" defense. The judge was not amused. "Terror accused yells at 'criminal judge'," for the Australian, May 6 (thanks to Dumbledoresarmy):
A man convicted of conspiracy to commit an act of terror yelled abuse at a Victorian Supreme Court judge, calling her a criminal moments after his lawyer appealed to her to be "as lenient as possible upon a simple man".
The man, who cannot be named because of a pending separate trial, was convicted last year along with two others of conspiring to attack Sydney's Holsworthy army base, in a bid to kill as many soldiers as possible and dying martyrs' deaths.
Islamic martyrdom, wherein those who "slay and are slain" in Allah's cause are promised paradise (Qur'an 9:111)
In comments apparently aimed at western institutions, the man, who has been held in solitary confinement for the past 22 months, yelled at judge Betty King: "Why do you charge us as criminal? Why don't you charge yourself as criminal? You kill people for oil. You kill kids. You kill innocent people. You are criminal, we are not criminal."
In a pre-sentencing plea hearing, the man's lawyer, Patrick Tehan QC, had described his client as "a vulnerable, naive person", while the plot to attack Holsworthy was "an amateurish, stupid act", but at the "mid- to low-range level" of seriousness because "nothing happens".
Mr Tehan said the men had no ammunition, explosives or maps, and when his client went to Sydney and took a train to the perimeter of the Holsworthy base, where he was filmed on CCTV, he looked "like Charlie Chaplin . . . with his little bag".
Judge King then interjected, "Except it's not very funny. The comedy is lacking."
Judge King said that while she accepted the Holsworthy plot was "as amateurish as I've seen" and the man had an extremely low IQ of less than 70, "there is no doubt the community is appalled by a plan to attack the armed services in our country".
The prisoner, 34, along with Saney Edow Aweys, 27, of Carlton, and Nayef El Sayed, 26, of Glenroy, were found guilty last December of conspiring to prepare for or plan a terrorist act. Two other men were acquitted.
Mr Tehan said his client, who was born in Tripoli, was "a simple man with a simple faith".
The hearing continues.
"Your honor, my client is a simple man. If I may, let me explain. He has to be really simple minded in order to accept Islam as the guiding light in his life. And Islam itself has no depth. Its basis is also quite simple. The Muslim insists that anyone he meets must accept Islam. If the invitee refuses, the Muslim kills that person and takes his property.
"You see, matters couldn't be simpler. As I said, my client is a simple man."
I knew that Western Europe was committing cultural suicide, but Australia, too?
The Western civilized world has truly gone insane. The 21st century will be called in the future "Age of Insanity."
Idiot lawyer, great song.
Given the fact that Australians ares probably the toughest, most resilient members of the UK.....I daresay that "martyr's death" can still be arranged.
I can't help but wonder if he would have addressed a male judge that way.
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Something has got to be very wrong with her for that thing to have even started.
He's right, he's not a criminal, he's a jihadist, an enemy combatant...
Ron Paul made the statement that some 300 jihadi's are locked up in America for terrorism related charges...Does that not indicate the US has been subject to a land invasion by jihadi soldiers of Allah?
It is time to reverse the heat on those savages. I say: a "Hooters" in Mecca and Medina, by 2015.
"a simple man with a simple faith".
Simpleton? Gullible?
The coward Muhammad took advantage of such followers. His coward Imams still do.
"When Muhammad was surrounded by his enemies, he sent his simpleton followers to their death without lifting a finger to defend himself."
Video: Muhammad the Coward
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/03/muhammad-coward-video.html
I think this Muslim savage terrorist also cannot stand that the Judge is a woman, presiding with power over him, a man! It must make him tremble with so much hate since in Islam, women/girls are only good enough to breed and as sex-SLAVES!
Send the simpleton back to the simple verities of the land of his birth, to put it simply.
Mr Tehan said his client, who was born in Tripoli, was "a simple man with a simple faith".
Well, in my book that is at the center of the problem: why does he want to kill people then?
"Mr Tehan said the men had no ammunition, explosives or maps,..."
And Tehan could have added, "no morality, no mercy, no generosity of spirit, no respect for life, no brain cells, no desire to do good in the world. In short, five-star clowns from the psycho-circus that is Islam."
"...a simple man with a simple faith".
Through "simple minded" into the package and multiply by 1.2 billion, and that neatly encapsulates the entire Ummah.
A "simple faith" all right!
Dominate, convert and kill.
You can't get simpler than that!
I like the idea of using a woman judge at a mohammadan's trial. It has many advantages, including making it more likely the accused will commit contempt of court, because they DO have contempt for ALL women.
Quite true and well put!
Islam is a perversion of the truth. Under Islam, such "simple" people are preyed upon for the cause (jihad) and it is called good.
and the man had an extremely low IQ of less than 70,
About average for an average Muslim.
http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=33387
First a disclaimer. This topic is painful to write and will be painful to read, particularly if you do have children. I apologise in advance for my tone, as I am trying to keep an emotional distance so I can make some sense of it.
My prayers are with Rachelle D’Argent, and those around providing her with the support she so desperately needs at this time.
m13.2 The necessary conditions for a person to have custody of a child are:
(a)uprightness (def:o24.4)(O: a corrupt person may not be a guardian, because child are is a position of authority, and the corrupt are unqualified for it. Mawardi and Ruyani hold that outward uprightness (def:m3.3(f)) is sufficient unless there is open wrongdoing. If the corruptness of a child’s mother consists of her not performing the prayer (salat), she has no right to custody of the child, who might grow up to be like her, ending up in the same vile condition of not praying, for keeping another’s company has its effects);
(b) sanity (O: since a mother uninterruptedly insane has no right to custody, though if her insanity is slight, such as a single day per year, her right to custody is not vitiated by it);
(c) and if the child is Muslim, it is a necessary condition tht the person with custody be a Muslim (O: because it is a position of authority, and a non-Muslim has no right to authority and hence no right to raise a Muslim. If a non-Muslim were given charge of the custody and upbringing of the child, the child might acquire the character traits of unbelief(kufr)).The Reliance of the Traveller.pp551-2[emphasis added]
One of the big problems with our multicultural paradise is that sometimes a culture has ingrained beliefs that just don’t mesh with the Western Civilisation.
"the man had an extremely low IQ of less than 70". That must be from all the inbreeding by his parents and previous ancestors over the last 1400 years. (Almost) unbelievably stupid! Just because he is "a simple man", doesn't mean he isn't dangerous.
i have mates at holsworthy.. lol, it would have been very one sided.
In a different report on the same case, I discovered that the man was a kickboxer at some stage. So he may have scrambled whatever brains he was born with.
Australians ares probably the toughest, most resilient members of the UK
The head of state of Australia is Queen Elizabeth II, who is head of state of the UK and a number of other countries of the British Commonwealth. This does not mean that Australians are members of the UK. Australians act independently - for example they sent troops to Vietnam whereas the Uk did not.