No, of course not. Nor could one post anything about Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, atheism, or agnosticism. Why? Because Saudi Arabia is not a free society. Why? Because they enforce Sharia. And Sharia forbids the propagation of non-Islamic faiths or the display of their symbols.
Muslims here are taking advantage of rights to freedom of speech, religion, and conscience that they will destroy where they are able to impose Sharia. Put that on a billboard. "He's not the son of God, just the support act," by Aaron Cook for the Sydney Morning Herald, May 28 (thanks to Jack):
Christians in Sydney will have their core beliefs challenged by provocative advertisements due to appear on billboards and buses in the next month.
The ads, paid for by an Islamic group called MyPeace, will carry slogans such as ''Jesus: a prophet of Islam'', ''Holy Quran: the final testament'' and ''Muhammad: mercy to mankind''.
A phone number urges people to call to receive a free Koran and other Islamic literature.
The organiser of MyPeace, Diaa Mohamed, said the campaign was intended to educate non-Muslims about Islam. He said Jesus was a prophet of Islam, who was to come before Muhammad. ''The only difference is we say he was a prophet of God, and they say he is God,'' Mr Mohamed said. ''Is it thought-provoking? Yes, it is. We want to raise awareness that Islam believes in Jesus Christ,'' he said.
Mr Mohamed said he hoped the billboards would encourage Christians and Muslims to find common ground. They were not intended to downgrade the significance of Jesus. ''We embrace him and say that he was one of the mightiest prophets of God.''
No, it just downgrades Christians brutally and severely, so that they and other unbelievers "feel themselves subdued" as dhimmis.
And by the way, Islamic eschatology does teach that Jesus will come back. But before we "celebrate" that "common ground" in "interfaith dialogue," it says he will come back to break all the crosses (Sahih Bukhari 3.43.656, among others), abolish the jizya arrangement that allowed non-believers to continue to exist, and "fight the people in the cause of Islam" (Sunan Abu Dawud 37.4310). And after Jesus kills, Jesus will die, and the Muslims will pray over his body (also 37.4310).
MyPeace plans to extend the campaign, funded by private donations, to television.
This is delightfully blunt, though of course, such sweeping historical revisionism is fundamental to Islam's teachings:
The Anglican Bishop of South Sydney, Rob Forsyth, said it was ''complete nonsense'' to say Jesus was a prophet of Islam. ''Jesus was not the prophet of a religion that came into being 600 years later.''
But the billboard was not offensive, he said. ''They've got a perfect right to say it, and I would defend their right to say it [but] … you couldn't run a Christian billboard in Saudi Arabia.''
The bishop said he would pay for billboards to counter those of MyPeace if he could afford it, and ''maybe the atheists should run their billboards as well''.
A spokesman for the Australian Islamic Mission, Siddiq Buckley, said the campaign would increase awareness of the positive facts of Islam. ''I would be looking at this as a good opportunity to explain what we mean.''
Nothing to add: you said it all, Marisol.
I really have to stop coming to Jihad Watch before work in the morning, I can't count the number of times I left for work infuriated and disgusted and it probably showed to customers and co workers..... Islam is the worst thing to happen to humanity,PERIOD!!
It wouldn't surprise me if you couldn't have a "Jesus Christ is Lord" billboard in the United States. It might offend someone. I wonder if I could get away with proclaiming my Deism on a billboard.
These morons don't even know simple arithmetic - Jesus came 700 years before the inventor of this murderous cult called came on this earth. Seven centuries, 700 years, before Mo/allah, not just a year or two or ten years before Mo to claim that Jesus was prophet of Islam!!! Do Muslims even fathom what 700 years timespan means? Jesus did not mention this screw ball Mo in his teachings. Muslims are really good at hijacking, stealing Jesus and other prophets as their own. Christians should fight back and tell these followers of murderous cult that in no way Jesus was ever associated with Islam. Islam did not exist in his time. Period!
These morons really need some modern education but all they do is recite Quran day and night - their poor madrassa education really shows!!
I'm not even a believer anymore but even I find that billboard offensive. I find it offensive when kuranimals claim Jesus (isa) was a muslim.
Because I know what they fail to share with the unsuspecting kaffrs they're fooling: that their version of Jesus (isa) is a homicidal, racist psychopath who will MURDER the Christians who don't convert to islam.
I find that billboard and kuranimals' claims of Jesus' and everyone elses's "muslimness" as offensive as pedophiles who try to justify their sickness by claiming that we're all naturally kiddy-diddlers but society represses us.
It's the same argument kuranimals use in their claims that everyone since Adam and Eve is a kuranimal but evil Jews and Christians repressed them and changed the message.
On the topic of kiddy diddlers and kuranimals anyone else notice that both groups use the same excuses to exonerate themselves from their crimes: entrapment? The sickos nailed on "to catch a predator" and kuranimals caught planning homicide bombings always scream that they were lead on, entrapped, tricked.
To paraphrase Mr Spencer who always asks "What or who would compel you to mass murder OR molest a child?"
hmm "jesus was a prophet"....well if these islamic groups want to spread ridiculous half truths/fakery
christian groups ought to spread whole truth...
ie "mohammed was NOT a prophet"
contact details for the Anglican Bishop of South Sydney, Rob Forsyth
address:
Level 1, St Andrew’s House
Sydney Square, NSW 2000 postal address: PO Box Q190, QVB Post Office NSW 1230
office telephone:
(+ 61 2) 9265 1524
office fax:
(+ 61 2) 9265 1543
mobile telephone:
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email: robforsyth@sydney.anglican.asn.au
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I recommend that everyone gets all the free korans they can from these people, though. Think of it as biomass, and have a great Aussi barbecue!
With lots of pork sausages, pork chops, etc, and, of course, beer!
Sorry, pisslamists, but Jesus is the Christ - he doesn't consort with Satan ("allah") and his demon messenger mohammed. He (and we) shall triumph over your evil cult and eliminate it from the face of the Earth.
Too bad Islam doesn't seem to have incorporated any of Jesus' teachings: forgiveness, turn the other cheek, love your neighbor, etc. Jesus also didn't break any of the 10 Comamandments, unlike the "prophet" Muhammad, who violated at least half of them. Clearly, yet another disconnect between Islamic doctrines and beliefs and reality.
According to these ISLAMIC texts, Jesus was SINLESS.
According to the same ISLAMIC texts, Muhammad was a SINNER.
Dear Muslim, who would you follow?
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/05/saint-and-sinner.html
Ko-ran: final testament? Hogwash.
The billboard that will really drive Muslims crazy: Jesus was a Jew.
This is better...
Ishmael was a Jew
"Jesus did not mention this screw ball Mo in his teachings. "
Not true. Jesus prophesied the coming of Mohammed. It's there in the Bible: http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/jesus-prophesied-muhammad-in-bible.html
Jesus never indicated anything about Mohammed or Islam,he preached forgiveness and mercy,not a concept which fits in with Islam,the demented founder of Islam and all the others who created a murderous cult claiming a link through to the "first prophet"Adam are idiots babbling poisonous lies,there is no empirical evidence for any of this nonsense,these Islamic supremacists are guilty of using a God named Allah to complete the madness Hitler started,so time for the west to realise Islam and the Nazis are fellow travellers.
I just sent an email to this wonderful and courageous Bishop (ok, not as courageous as a Coptic or Apostolic bishop who face persecution but still) saying I would be very willing to donate to his billboard fund and even fundraise here in the UK. I also commended him on his rousing words that I don't think I've ever heard an Anglican bishop ever utter.
I'll post if there is a fund or not, maybe we can all chip in but I'm guessing it'll be expensive.
If there are any Christians in Australia who have any balls they will burn the sign down. Let them put it up then burn it down.
Well, in the USA, the First Amendment allows the Muslims to say what they want.
But it also allows me to say that Jesus isn't just a prophet, but he's these as well:
priest
king
God Incarnate
Messiah of Israel
Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah
The Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world
formerly dead, now risen and living forevermore
come to think of it, I'd say these even if there was no First Amendment.
This being said, I've run into other fools who tells me that Jesus WAS a socialist or WAS the archetype of Aryan struggle against the Semites or WAS a groovy drug-tripping guru or WAS a New Ager, etc. it seems to me that even back in the 7th century, Jesus was a very great guy to have playing on "our team". Never mind if Jesus is also the guy who will slay the Antichrist with the breath of his mouth and judge the living and dead. Co-opt him at any price!
"I recommend that everyone gets all the free korans they can from these people, though. Think of it as biomass, and have a great Aussi barbecue!
With lots of pork sausages, pork chops, etc, and, of course, beer!
There is a certain logic to attempting to bankrupt this pack of wolves with postage fees (especially overseas postage), however I recommend only doing so if you have a post office box rather than using your street address unless you have an exceptionally well-prepared and self-sufficient family. You need to think about what you will do to protect them if the mahoundians appear on your doorstep to proselytize like a bunch of malignant, psychotic Jehovah's Witnesses. They are liable to attempt to retaliate if they feel they have been played for fools by a bunch of Infidels.
Still, it WOULD be interesting to compare whatever version of the koran they are handing out with Pickthall's translation, which preceeds 9/11 and the disease of Political Correctness.
Jesus is a very important figure in Islam. Islam teaches that at armageddon he will return and kill all the christians.
They intentionally confused him with the antichrist. And I suspect I know know which one they revere more.
Even the diety they worship is refered to as Al-Makr, or Great Deciever.
All imams and similar islamic scholars know this. Draw your own conclusions.
"The only difference is we say he was a prophet of God, and they say he is God," Mr Mohamed said. "Is it thought-provoking? Yes, it is. We want to raise awareness that Islam believes in Jesus Christ," he said.
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*As if* those were the only differences. This is not a simple case of some non-Christians who believe Jesus was a great teacher or philosopher, but who consider the "Son of God" aspect to be symbolic.
In fact the Muslim "Isa" has *almost nothing* in common with the Jesus of the Gospels. He is not a healer or a comforter. He does not preach peace.
In most of the passages of the Qur'an "Isa" chastises Christians in believing in him, and damning them to the fires of Hell for it.
In Islam it is not just that "Isa" does not die on the cross; he coerces one of his followers to die nameless in his place, while he cravenly creeps away.
Then—as Marisol noted, above—in the last days "Isa" returns to earth to "break the cross and kill the pigs"—that is, to end dhimmitude; the small, insecure space under Shari'ah law where Jews and Christians are allowed to practice their faith.
Thereafter, the only choices for Christians is conversion to Islam *or death*.
The role of "Jesus" in Islam...is to *kill Christians*.
"Thought-provoking", indeed.
I may be wrong, but I noticed that one of the Divided State of America is trying to ban the use of such exclamatories as OMG, Jesus Christ,O My Lord, Thank God,God Dxxn for fear of offending Muslims. Is the Homeland Security going to be landed in every home to watergate such exclamation during sexual ecstasy ????
"I may be wrong, but I noticed that one of the Divided State of America is trying to ban the use of such exclamatories as OMG, Jesus Christ,O My Lord, Thank God,God Dxxn for fear of offending Muslims."
Nice try, but kuranimals are not offended by the exclamation "Jesus Christ" because Jesus was a Jew and they hate him as much as their allah does.
If people yelled "isa Christ" then, yes, kuranimals might be offended by kaffr using the name of their psychopathic mass-murdering wet dream.
"God damn" is one they say several times a day during salat when they spew the hatred of al-fatiha so it's unlikely that would offend them.
Now, if us kaffrs screamed "allahallah" then, yes, kuranimals would take it to court. Can't have us kaffrs using their "perfect" arabic.
If you're going to fib and try to fool us islamophobic racists you're going to have to do better than that.
God damn, Jesus Christ and oh my God are censored on t.v. and radio so as to not offend the Christians.
It is very interesting that NO ONE can see the big chance in this muslim billboard!!!
Now, after the Muslims clearly stated, for everyone to see, that in their opinion Jesus is not the Son of God, that he is not the Christ - meaning he is not God in the flesh dying for the sin of men and raising from the dead 3 days after - Than this is the best opertunity to hit them back with:
1. John 2:22:
"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."
Now the muslims clearly stated that they are antichristian and that should at least wake up the last couch poatato to reality!
A few observations.
I know Bishop Robert Forsyth. I sat under his teaching in a parish church where he was rector, for **more than ten years**. I heard many, many well-thought-out, excellent sermons. I can contact him personally and tell him I admire his stand; and if he wants to pass round the hat to fund a billboard, then I would be happy to put some money in.
I think a billboard placed somewhere along the railway line or the highway that goes through Lakemba, would do nicely.
This Bishop knows his onions.
I will add that I wouldn't put it past him to challenge Messrs Diaa Mohamed and Siddiq Buckley (a convert to Islam, obviously - Buckley is not a middle eastern surname) to a public debate on the subject. And the fur and the feathers will fly, for Bishop Robert knows his Christian history and his Christology back to front.
Furthermore: the Sydney Diocese of the Anglican Church is probably *the* most staunchly evangelical and earnestly mission-minded of all the Anglican dioceses in Australia.
They have been visited more than once by Canon Dr Patrick Sookhdeo, apostate from Islam, author of 'Global Jihad'; one of the biggest Sydney Anglican events, spiritually and socially, is the convention that the Church Missionary Society holds, up in the Blue Mountains, every year. People go there from parishes all over Sydney. And a few years back, Dr Sookhdeo addressed the Convention. I wonder whether Bishop Robert has read Canon Sookhdeo's books? I can ask him directly..I have an unofficial means of contacting him.
And a final point: besides trying their nonsense onto a city where most of the Anglicans are well-instructed Evangelicals, the Muslims are also peddling their ahistorical antihistorical nonsense in the city that is the home base of Catholic Cardinal Archbishop George Pell, who is quite without illusions as to the nature of Islam. Archbishop Pell has read Bat Yeor. I know, because he said so in the letter in which he replied to me after I had written him a letter thanking him for some trenchant public critique of Islam that he had voiced.
Well, it sounds as if Australian Anglicanism is in rather good hands, whereas the American Episcopalian Church is just a kind of fancy Unitarianism mixed with a bit of New Ageism.
I continue to pray for continued evangelism among Muslim immigrants in Western countries and for breakthroughs in Islamic lands.
I wonder what would happen if next to that Muslim billboard the Australian Christians put another billboard that says:
NO,JESUS IS LORD,OUR GOD!
Ask for a free Koran. Everyone. Deplete their resources.
mypeace.com.au
Do it!
The "MyPeace" site also contains such gems as these, about the "Prophet" Muhammed:
"After Khadija's death Muhammad married several women for political and humanitarian reasons, as was expected of a man of his position; all but one were widows and divorcees."
No mention that that "one" was a little six-year-old girl—he would 'consummate' the marriage with Aisha when she was just *9-years-old*-and no mention that most of the widows were indeed widows *because he had just murdered their husbands*.
He is presented here as "a role model".
The blatant, Taqiyy-filled text goes on to implausibly posit Muhammed as a feminist, a champion of minority and workers rights, and even as a proto-environmentalist. The whole thing is grimly laughable.
http://www.mypeace.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8
Lord have mercy on them