Bin Laden may have lived in Pakistan for over 7 years

We need to end all military and financial aid to Pakistan immediately. Enough with the counterfeit allies.  We don't gain anything by pretending Pakistan is a true friend. It isn't. At best, it's playing both sides of the table.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/06/deserve-victory.html

And then that suspected Islamic Trojan horse and Muslim Brotherhood agent, Caliph Hussein Obama keep wanting to aid this vile nuclear-possessing Pakistan Muslim nation with billions of weapons?! We know why allright! See - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1359231/Pakistan-overtake-Britain-worlds-fifth-largest-nuclear-power.html

Pakistan to overtake Britain as world's fifth largest nuclear power
By David Williams
Last updated at 5:45 PM on 21st February 2011

Experts think Pakistan could have 110 nuclear weapons
Pakistan is on the verge of overtaking Britain as the world's fifth largest nuclear power at a time when the country faces an unprecedented threat from extremists.
American intelligence agencies believe that Pakistan now has more than 100 deployed nuclear weapons, an increase of nearly 40 per cent in two years......

I am reading a very interesting book called The Punishment of Virtue by Sarah Chayes published in 06. On page 262 bottom paragraphs she writes that she heard while on the border of Paki/Afgan that the Paki's were collecting Al-Qaeda and keeping them in safe houses. Then they would turn them over every 3 or 4 months to keep the duped Americans happy so that we would continue to send them our billions. American kids could use that money for education.
So the Pakistani's had a sort of terrorist farm operation going. Good returns on the product.

The current state of affairs in US foreign policy reminds me of the Sub-Prime financial crisis. Some were bailed out to the tune of tens of billions of taxpayer dollars, because they were "too big to fail" - and yet when obligations were requested of them, they began screaming that they would never give up their handsome bonuses.

Likewise, Pakistan, a failing state where less than 2% of its people pay taxes, is being kept afloat largely by billions from suffering US taxpayers, yet it loudly balks at abandoning precious ties with those who are killing US soldiers.

Pakistan boasts of its contributions to the War on Terror, the way overpaid bankers boast of their contribution to the economy. In both cases, politicians rush to approve billions in aid, leaving the reluctant taxpayers on the hook, while promising that things will get better in the future.

It was due to these wretched excesses of the Sub-Prime scandal that a voter revolt literally changed the landscape of the US Congress. But that's because those dismayed voters were also taxpayers.

In the case of the current Sub-Prime foreign policy crisis, those who have been left on the hook from the constant appeasement and coddling of Pakistan are military families who've lost irreplaceable loved ones, and even whole other nations which are having to endure Pakistani-sponsored terrorism, such as Afghanistan and India. It's possible that they may stage their own revolt of sorts, each casting their vote in their own respective ways. Military enlistment from traditional sources may suffer as part of the legacy of having been made to fight a war with one arm tied behind their backs. Leaders like Karzai have long been demanding the US get out, because they feel the US won't do anything to save them from Pakistan. India recently turned down the US bid for the largest jet fighter contract in its history, because it didn't have confidence that the US would continue supplies of parts, etc, in the event of a war with Pakistan.

It was after the sinking of the Cheonan by a similarly belligerent rogue, that the South Korean leadership finally took its gloves off and began staging live fire exercises near the border. Suddenly the North Korean shrillness was taken aback and quieted.

The US cannot allow its entire strategic freedom of action to be controlled by a single irredentist failing state bent on duplicity and pan-regional revolution. Allowing this only undermines US credibility, and makes defense of its national security interests much harder.

Otherwise if US officials continue on the same course, handling foreign policy as they've handled the Sub-Prime financial crisis, they might well come up with an even better bailout package for Pakistan - the Terrorist Aggression Reduction in Pakistan act - which can be referred to by its acronym, TARP.

Did Naval Burial Ceremony for Bin Laden Curse Jews and Christians, and Confer Pardon and Paradise on the Muslim Mass Murderer?
Andrew G. Bostom

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/05/did_naval_burial_ceremony_for.html

Given the dhimmitude prevailing in the West, it would not surprise me in the least, if that was the case.

RE: "Your Headline:Bin Laden may have lived in Pakistan for over 7 years."
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And it is fair to ask ourselves what we were doing in these 7 years, during which Osama lived in Haripur and Abbotabad, conveniently close to his protectors at the infamous Directorate D of Paki ISI, located in, you guessed it, Abbottabad.

Well, in these 7 years we kept the bankrupt regime of Pakistan afloat by giving them billions of dollars, replenishing their aging fleet of F-16's, and even promising them a few dozen drones.

We frequently patted them on their backs for

a. The 'splendid' job they were doing.
b. Making 'sacrifices' on behalf of us infidels.

Perhaps more importantly, we were, in that same 7-year period, busy in our trillion dollar effort to supplant a relatively benign secular regime by an Iran-friendly Sharia regime, from which Christians are now forced to flee in thousands.

With all this new information about the comings and goings at the UBL’s household none of us will be surprised if we’re soon told that there was a Welcome mat at and an ivy-covered“The Bin Ladens” sign on the compound’s gate, complete with lawn jockey and garden gnomes near the mailbox’s flower beds. In the days to come we may even learn that UBL had an account at the local Blockbuster (not yet bankrupt in the Land of the Pure) and a NetFlix delivery service. Authorities might want to speak with the UPS driver for that route who could tell the number of Home Shopping Network deliveries made including monthly delivers of fruits from Luther Burbank’s Fruit-of-the-Month club (“Clark, it’s the gift that keeps on giving the whole year ‘round”).

Then we’ll learn, because of all the children, of all the Cub Scouts meetings held at the UBL compound and the girls’ sleep overs (extra special events when UBL was sure to invite his local cronies for some viewing pleasures).

Yep, Paki’s ISI knew nothing.

'Bin Laden may have lived in Pakistan for over 7 years'

Alternative headline: Pakistan may have lied for over 7 years.

There is already a bill being introduced to halt financial aid to Pakistan.

http://poe.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=239188

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Islamists Slaughter Christians in Nigeria, Obama Looks the Other Way

Although Sharia law has existed in Northern Nigeria for a long time, it used to apply only to family matters such as divorce, inheritance and adoption. It was only in 1999 that the governor of the Nigerian Northern State of Zamfara, Alhaji Ahmed Sani, decided to apply Shari law. The governor instead wanted to go farther and to include flogging, stoning, amputation, beheading, and other precepts of Islamic law.. Ever since, the Northern Nigerian States have followed Zamfara's steps. Under the Sharia law, Nigerian women have been sentenced to death by stoning for adultery, have been forbidden to rent houses and to travel in the same vehicles as men.

African Christians are now fearing for their lives after the recent massacres in Nigeria. Large scale violence from extremist Muslims erupted in Nigeria against the Christian population soon after the results of the country's presidential elections that took place on April 16th 2011. The outburst of violence started in the north of Nigeria, which has a predominantly Muslim majority, after the victory of President Goodluck Jonathan, a Christian politician. President Jonathan defeated the other presidential candidate, Muhammadu Buhari, a Muslim and former Nigerian President, who was accused of having rigged the electoral process. Jonathan's victory represented a shift of power in the country to the largely Christian south.

Defeated candidate Buhari's Muslim supporters took to the streets chanting "changi, sai Buhari" ["Change must take place and only with Buhari"], and went on a rampage against the Christian supporters of President Jonathan. The Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) lamented that in just a few days, over 300 churches were burnt across the country's northern states; thousands of Christian-owned homes and business were destroyed, and at least 600 Christians were killed. Relief officials estimate that at least 65,000 people have been displaced as a result of the violence, which appears to be one of the worst outbursts of sectarian violence between Muslims and Christians in the country.

The Christian Aid Mission (CAM) gives also the frightening news that, last year, more than 2,000 Christians were killed in targeted Nigerian violence -- more than in any other country in the world.
http://www.hudson-ny.org/2100/islamists-slaughter-christians-in-nigeria

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Muslim religious leaders kicked off U.S. domestic flight after pilot refuses to take off with them

Two Muslim religious leaders were asked to leave a commercial airliner in Memphis - and were told it was because the pilot refused to fly with them aboard.

Masudur Rahman and another imam had already been allowed to board their Delta Connection flight from Memphis, Tennessee, to Charlotte, North Carolina before they were asked to get off the plane.

'It's racism and bias because of our religion and appearance and because of misinformation about our religion.' Mr Rahman said. 'If they understood Islam, they wouldn't do this.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1384592/Muslim-religious-leaders-told-leave-U-S-domestic-flight-pilot-refuses-aboard.html#ixzz1LgzoSNdT

It's seemed pretty obvious to me for years that Bin Laden was most likely hiding in Pakistan with at least the tacit agreement of the Pakistani authorities. Ultimately, Pakistan and Saudia Arabia are our two primary enemy states. It nauseates me that David Cameron's Conservatives have given £650 million of UK taxpayer's money to Pakistan in 'aid' over the next few years. This is basically money to purchase the votes of Pakistanis residing in the UK, who scandalously, have as much legal right to determine the fate of my country as I do. The UK itself is a terrorist hub, and I'd sooner see my country's troops rooting out Islamists in cities such as Bradford, Birmingham and London than wasting their lives in Afghanistan.

On a positive note, the pro-Cologne anti-Islamisation movement brought 1,000 protestors out onto the streets of the German city today: http://durotrigan.blogspot.com/2011/05/march-for-freedom-in-cologne.html

Pakistan is only committed to installing Islam as the only ruling force in the world...

Here is the latest word from Congressman Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) on the "relationship":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQtRfnB1Gao

RE:"...it may be dawning on Pakistan that this situation isn't going to get any less awkward."
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Despite the clear-cut evidence proving Pakistan's utter duplicity, the Pakis have no need to feel awkward, because there are many die-hard Pakistan fans among U.S. lawmakers and officials, who will continue to safeguard Pakistan's interests.

Durban, Chuck Schumer, Lugar, McCain, Feinstein, Lind"Sissy" Graham, John Kerry, Hijab Hillary, "hearts-and-minds" Patreus, Mike Mullen, and Robert Gates will throw a collective fit if anyone even suggests that aid to Pakistan be stopped. They have so little confidence in America's prowess that they can't imagine America going it alone to defeat the terrorists in the Af-Pak region.

Wrong... Wrong ...wrong. This will cost Pakistan nothing. They will only play that we have nukes, and unless you keep the government strong (pay Jizya), the militants will inherit our nuclear arsenal. The West will promptly soil its pants and pay.

The Quran is right about one thing. The infidels are like dumb beasts.

( أولئك كالأنعام بل هم أضل أولئك هم الغافلون ( A'raf 179)
....Those are like livestock; rather, they are more astray. (7:179).

I'm going to assume that even if I don't post here, champ, Deebartok and traeh, are going to mention me anyway in a comment, especially deebartok whose appeared on articles that i haven't even looked at and started BSing big time about me, claiming I was insulting and harrassing him (when I never intitiated a single conversation with him, every time he encountered me was when HE started sending death threats and curse words flying out of his mouth, not even explaining what was wrong with my post, only calling for my death)

He also told DOI to have sex with an underage girl, in addition to calling me "Asshole" and "dumbass". He claims to have a PHD, i wonder what university its from?

See it all at this link-

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/05/saima-sheikh-is-media-communications.html#comment-785958
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champ selectively remembers who or who did not post "manure", depending on whether they were islamophobic or not.

oddly differing reactions from champ regarding a user AJack who personally attacked me, claiming I ate human fetuses, when i responded that he was a hijra and asked him how cow urine tasted, Champ seems to think that claiming someone else eats fetuses isn't a personal attack

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/05/pakistan-warns-us-of-disastrous-consequences-for-any-more-bin-laden-style-raids.html#comment-785956

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to cap it off, this comment link lists samples of traeh's massive offtopic spamming of hadith and biographies which have absolutely nothing to do with the article at hand

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/05/pakistan-warns-us-of-disastrous-consequences-for-any-more-bin-laden-style-raids.html#comment-786181

a sample of his hundreds of offtopic comments of JW can be accessed here-

http://www.google.ca/webhp?hl=fr#hl=fr&biw=975&bih=628&q=traeh+hadith+volume+sahih+bukhari++site:jihadwatch
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Traeh is free to spam offtopic hadith, biographies, passages, but when I make posts that are semi related to the topic (ie. india in a pakistan article), and people can't face the truth, they start whining.

This stupid Chinese muslim completely sidetracking the issue of porkistan duplicity and ranting on and on about India is getting tiresome. The spotlight is on porkistan, its not about India. And, by the way moron, Kashmir has historicaly been Indian. The very name comes from the name of an ancient sage called Kashyap. So, go suck on pig hoofs before ranting off topic.

The US Administration has a deep-rooted festish for feeding foxes to guard its hen houses and even its backyard !

Horse >> [claiming I was insulting and harrassing him (when I never intitiated a single conversation with him, every time he encountered me was when HE started sending death threats and curse words flying out of his mouth, not even explaining what was wrong with my post, only calling for my death)]

The whining never stops for Horse.

Much of yesterday, he/it spent on demonstrating his dishonesty.

Today, he starts whining on this thread.

Yesterday, he was spanked around on the issue of Darfur genocides, where China has played the role of an enabler.

But, like a true Muslim/Chinese Horse tried to spread the blame around and was caught lying. Imagine, 200,000-400,00 people killed and China spends its efforts in impeding UN actions.

The fact of the matter is that the Chinese are experts in foetus slurping – in fact, it is considered quite a delicacy..Horse wants to ignore such obvious cultural facts and focus on whitewashing the genocides perpetrated by the Pakistanis/Chinese.

Horse - you need to learn from your spanking of yesterday - Chinese/Muslim dishonesty is not very effective - you will get caught every time.

From http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Pakistan-breaches-trust-names-local-CIA-boss/articleshow/8191679.cms

we have:

Pakistan breaches trust, names local CIA boss
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[In a sign of how bad ties are between the two countries, Pakistani media on Saturday once again publicly named the CIA station chief in Islamabad, a breach of both protocol and trust, that is bound to enrage Washington.

A Pakistani TV channel and a newspaper considered mouthpieces of the country's military said the ISI chief Ahmed Shuja Pasha had met CIA station chief Mark Carlton to protest US incursion into Abbottabad to kill al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden.

CIA station chiefs remain anonymous and unnamed in public although the host government is told.]

RE: Posts from Horse
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Horse's off topic rants are beginning to annoy me; he dumps a lot of unrelated crap (spurious arguments about India, links to articles in the Indian media, when the topic really is Pakistan, not India).

He is supposed to be commenting on the article under which he is posting his comments. He is drawing other readers into fights, as if this forum is about Horse and Horse's honor, as if this is India Watch instead of Jihad Watch.

If the horse-shit doesn't stop, I am outta here.

Guys

Ignore Horse. Marisol is obviously asleep @ the switch, or else she'd have at least warned him long ago, if not yanked his posting privileges completely.

But Ajack, Champ, Hermes, IndianTiger, et al, just avoid feeding the troll and send e-mails to director@jihadwatch.com on this.

I don't mind that Horse spews absolute lies and nonsense - my only problem is that he posts such a long torrent that he is physically interfering with my ability to read the posts of others. That's why I think he does this on purpose - not because he feels he has something important to say, but only because he wants to clutter up the discussion thread by spamming it with his own ten-page-long comments. If he is an Indian Muslim, then it only goes to show how Muslims are loyal to their Ummah above all else, and regard the countries where they live as mere hotels. This is in spite of the fact that they constantly boast how Islam commands them to be loyal to the countries they live in. Horse is only showing his own moral bankruptcy and hypocrisy. I just wish he wouldn't do it by cluttering the discussion with ten-page-long posts.

just like indonesia, those in charge take an embarressing amount of money from us, take their cut, and laugh at us.

theyve been found out big this time and have been very quick to offer up about 50 weak and meaningless excuses. ranging from trying to cast blame and lambast other governments, to whining about sovereignty

obama made one gutsy call. make it 2 and cut all their funding. let them and all of the rest of the countries of islam live in their own filth.

How ridiculous. It's obvious that the reason he was living in eyeshot of the military academy is because they provided the compound for him.