What do they want? Sharia, naturally: "The first principle of the Jakarta Charter, which was ultimately incorporated into the preamble of the constitution, was the 'obligation for all followers to observe Shariah law.' It was later changed to 'Belief in the one and only God,' by then-Vice President Mohammad Hatta."
So, they can deceptively say they are patriotic, even "moderate" Indonesians who believe in and uphold Pancasila. Then, the question becomes: Whose Pancasila? "Islamic Hard-Liners Plan Massive Pancasila Rally," by Nivell Rayda for the Jakarta Globe, May 11 (thanks to Twostellas):
Cianjur, West Java. After failing to kick-start a revolution through massive protests echoing those in the Middle East this year, hard-line Muslim groups are now plotting an even bigger rally next month, this time claiming they have forged an unlikely alliance with nationalists.
Speaking from his home in West Java, Chep Hermawan, the leader of the Islamic Reform Movement (Garis), said that 40,000 protesters were expected to rally in front of the Presidential Palace in Jakarta on June 1.
“Basically everyone who is a staunch critic of SBY will be on board,” Chep said, referring to President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono. “It will be like Cairo, where everyone who didn’t like Mubarak joined forces to topple a corrupt government.”
Chep named Sri Bintang Pamungkas, a Suharto-era political activist, and Andi Mapetahang Fatwa, a member of the Regional Representatives Council (DPD), as being among the nationalists who had expressed an interest in taking part in the rally.
“We plan on doing this on the anniversary of the Pancasila,” Chep said, referring to the state ideology first articulated by former President Sukarno on June 1, 1945.
Chep said Muslim groups were hoping to return the Pancasila to its original state, as outlined in the Jakarta Charter of June 22, 1945. The first principle of the Jakarta Charter, which was ultimately incorporated into the preamble of the constitution, was the “obligation for all followers to observe Shariah law.” It was later changed to “Belief in the one and only God,” by then-Vice President Mohammad Hatta.
“We want the Pancasila to return to its original state,” Chep said. “We don’t reject the Pancasila, rather we want to restore it to its intended purpose.”
No, really, everyone will love it:
The protest, Chep added, would also cover other topical issues. “Basically our plan is to stage a rally that appeals to all, not just Muslims,” he said. “We have been talking with the nationalists and they agreed to join our rally, but they will be pushing labor issues, agricultural reform and so on.”
Everyone who counts, that is, which won't include the Ahmadis:
Demonstrators, he said, would also demand the dissolution of Ahmadiyah, a minority Islamic sect considered deviant by mainstream Muslims....
Just as the Five Pillars of Islam are perverted by the unavoidable presence of the 6th Pillar, now, in Indonesia, at least, the Five Virtues of Buddhism are perverted by a narrow application of one of the five pancasilas.
Which one? In this case, probably #4 I undertake the precept to refrain from incorrect speech.
But that would mean two are perverted, the second being #5 I undertake the precept to refrain from intoxicants which lead to carelessness, cuz to be a Moslem is to be boozed up on a very bad and careless ideology.
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Have I mentioned that Inonesia is the world's most populous Moslem nation, or that Prez Barack Hussein Obama spent his formative years there?
I'm sure our Prez will do a photo op to denounce this latest Moslem perversion. He should do it it at ol' U of al Azhar... his speechifying is so effective on that campus. And he was a college professor, a part time professor, at least. And at a very prestigious pedigree puppy mill Ivy League college, no less.
If only the Dutch or the Japanese had stamped out Islam when they ran things there!
Let me get this straight - Indonesia is supposed to be the "moderate" Muslim state, right?
Sounds great...what could possibly go wrong! I really blame all these efforts across the islamic world on obama. He has appeased and encouraged the ummah to strive toward the peace that a caliphate would bring...you know, he's like the leader of everyone but Americans.
"If only the Dutch or the Japanese had stamped out Islam when they ran things there!"
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allow us to take full credit for spreading Islam in indonesia and malaysia.
the Imperial government of the Ming dynasty in China helped spread Islam in Indonesia and malaysia and philipinnes, by sending chinese to spread the islamic relgion among the polytheist, animist, and hindu Indonesians, malaysians, and filipinos, settling communities with Chinese muslims and building mosques, and backing up muslim regimes.
the muslim state of Champa, the muslim malay sultantes, and the muslim indonesian kingdoms, were backed up by china in the tributary system, sending tribute and acknowleding overlorship of China, and were protected with military force from China from rival states and from the Portuguese colonialist invaders. An entire portuguese embassy was seized by China in retaliation for their attack on the sultanate of Malacca.
The founder of the Ming dynasty, Emperor Hongwu, was an islamophile. He build mosques, issued decrees for protection of muslims, had 10 muslim generals in his army, moved muslim artists and craftsmen into his capital, and wrote a 100 character essay praising Islam and the prophet.
100 characters written in Chinese by hongwu Emperor, praising Islam, its found in several mosques in Nanjing.
http://210.0.141.99/eng/malaysia/ChineseMuslim_in_Malaysia.asp
http://www.islamhk.com/en/?p=12&a=view&r=43
http://www.islam.org.hk/en/?p=12&a=view&r=43
"At the time when his fleet first arrived in this area, there were already Chinese of the ‘Mohammedan’ faith living there. Ma Huan talks about them as Tangren [堂人] (Chinese) who were Muslim.3 At places they went, they frequented mosques, actively propagated the Islamic faith, established Chinese Muslim communities and built mosques.
Parlindungan Mangaradja Onggang writes that when the Ming Dynasty’s fleet stopped in Semarang, Zheng He, Ma Huan and Fei Xin often went to the mosque to pray. He adds: “Under the influence of Zheng He between 1411-1416, in the Malay Peninsula, Java, Sumatra, and the Philippines, there developed many Chinese Muslim areas, and many mosques were built.”4
Claudine Salmon believes that “……...the expansion of Islam in the East Indies and the simultaneous formation of ‘Chinese’ communities ……… are two parallel developments.” She cites Muslim dignitaries with Chinese origin, or Chinese who converted to Islam and married local women, who can be traced in various places from Aceh to Palembang in Sumatra, to Banten in Java, and further to the East in Semarang and Mojokerto. Salmon gives well documented evidence of the Chinese Muslim presence, and their heavy influence on the social, political and economic scenes on the Indonesian islands. “……….. the first Muslim kingdoms in Java, the extent to which the presence of the Chinese is perceptible everywhere.” She adds that the Dutch and English sources provide plentiful information on Muslim dignitaries. Many of them are mentioned with their Chinese surnames, such as Lim Lacco from Banten, who was the advisor of the Pangeran; So Bing Kong, a pepper trader from Kendal; the Han family from Surabaya, a well-known Chinese Muslim family for many generations. 5
Indonesian scholar Slamet Muljana 6 writes: “Zheng He built Chinese Muslim communities first in Ju Gang (Palembang), then in San Fa (West Kalimantan), subsequently he built same kind of communities along the shores of Java, the Malay Peninsula and the Philippines. They propagated the Islamic faith according to the Hanafi sect and in Chinese language.
Amen Budiman narrates the story of Wang Jing-Hong [王 景 弘 ] , Zheng He’s vice commander. He fell sick as the fleet arrived at the Northern shores of Central Java. Zheng He ordered to stop at Semarang, to seek cure for Wang Jing–Hong. Ten days later, Zheng He pursued westwards with his fleet, leaving behind Wang Jing-Hong and ten men. Wang Jing-Hong loved this place; so when he recovered from his illness, he did not follow Zheng He. He stayed and taught the local people and the Chinese who lived there agriculture and trade, and propagated Islam to them.7
Tan Yeok Seong8 in his article ‘Chinese Element in the Islamisation of Southeast Asia’9 tells about the very interesting Great Lady of Gresik, Shih Ta Niang Tzi Pi Na Ti [Shi Da Niang Zi Bi Na Zhi] [施大娘子俾那智 ], and their sibling squabble over the inheritance of power, in which Zheng He was asked to intervene."
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chinese, malay sultans and tribute
chinese, malay sultans, and tribute
Zheng he and tribute
sultans and tribute in indonesia
chinese responsible for spreading islam in indonesia and malaysia, and backing up the Sultans and islamic regimes
chinese spread islam to malaysia and indonesia
islam spread in indonesia by chinese
sultan in indonesia were backed up by china in tributary system
chinese spread islam in indonesia
"Indonesian Islamic scholar Hamka once said: "The development of Islam in Indonesia and Malaya is intimately related to a Chinese Muslim, Admiral Zheng He ." As a messenger of peace, Zheng He made enormous contributions"
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We undid the hinduization and indianization of indonesia and malaysia and we are proud of it.
the freak "Hard line" groups in this article, and punks financed probably by HUT and other terror groups trying to cause trouble between muslims and non muslims.
my last comment was in response to infidel pride.
my last comment was in response to infidel pride.
If, as 'Horse' in his latest mask appears to be claiming, the Chinese did in any way DELIBERATELY spread and protected Islam in the East Indies, then it would be a black mark, indeed the blackest of marks, against China as a nation, and perhaps the worst thing they ever did as a nation: a deed unsurpassed in cruelty, wickedness and sheer stupidity, to deliberately foster and protect Mohammed's Death Cult, the religion of blood and war, the religion of the Lie, the world's worst religion.
Whackamole.
Marisol
Another fake ID of horsey here, just in case you missed it.
Horse, Insect, Shrimp, Crabs?
Anybody seeing a pattern here?
This guy never gives up, you 'gotta give him that!
Thx.