Confrontation in Germany

Elitist, I think you missed the point when you said

"If this entire event had been held virtually as an Internet conference, there would have been no disruption and the entire proceedings would be placed online permanently."

If those who speak up about the dangers of the Islamization of the West retreat to the Internet then they have ceded the public forum to the enemy and proved to them that they (the Islamists) will win, and win easily, as long as they continue with their intimidation and scare tactics.

Also, if the speakers present their talks on the Internet who is going to view it? You, me, a bunch more Jihad Watch fans, some of their friends etc.

There is a phrase for this scenario: "preaching to the converted." In other words, the message is going to people who already know the message and endorse it.

Preaching to the converted will not help any country that is trying to make headway with Muslim Extremists and their Vichy-Regime-leftist shills.

Holding the talks in an outdoor venue is the best way to disseminate the message the speakers intend to convey because it maximizes the chances of getting the message to the very people who most need to hear it.

There is a potential for hundreds of uninformed people to wander by and hear the presentations. If only a few are awakened by the speakers that still has the potential to snowball into hundreds or even thousands of people waking up due to the passage of information by word of mouth.

The organizers of the demonstration were aware of that fact. That is why they had their goons attack the speeches and the speakers. Their main intent in doing this was to scare away any of the public that might listen and wake up.

You asked the following question:

"how to lend a voice to the vast majority of Europeans who are him politically progressive (not "leftist") and who are desperate over Islamization and want to see it reversed."

I can give an answer to that in two parts.

Part 1: If the German people are not willing to make an effort to save their country then it doesn't deserve to be saved. In this case, Germany is lost not because of the Islamists; it is lost because the heart of its people is already dead.

Part 2: If the German people are willing to do something to save their country then they probably can. They can probably do this without violence and possibly without much physical effort without much cost (except for beer).

How?

By remembering that this is the West and money, one way or the other, rules our world. Politicians need campaign contributions, businesses need you to buy their products, churches need you to donate to them (charities too), Universities need you to provide them with students and they need you to make generous donations).

Step 1: Each person in Germany who is against the fiasco that has happened to their country because of multiculturalism must write a letter to their local political representative and carbon copy it to the financial controllers of the various political parties within Germany. This letter must promise that no politician or party will receive even 1 Euro of political donations or campaign donations from the sender until the problem with the Islamization of Germany is ended.

In doing this, each person must make all the political parties aware they (the aggrieved German) will be contacting every major business in Germany with a promise to discontinue buying their products if the businesses don't discontinue their political funding completely.

The letter should make it clear to the politicians that the intent is to bankrupt all the political organizations within Germany unless they get Germany back on track. Unless they once again make Germany a county steeped in Western culture and philosophy and dedicate to the principles of democracy and Judeo-Christian values. This includes ensuring that those who come from other cultures and traditions come to Germany with the INTENT to assimilate.

The letter must also state that failure to comply by voting day will result in a vote against the incumbent.

Step 1a: have some beer

Step 2: Each person in Germany who is against the fiasco that has happened to their country because of multiculturalism must write a letter to the head offices of each major corporation The letter should inform the corporations that the sender will discontinue buying their products if the corporation continues making political contributions and campaign donations to any political party.

The letter should make it clear that failure to comply will lead to the writer intentionally buying imported products with the express intent of bankrupting the corporation. The letter should also make it clear that the sender will buy from the corporation's major German competitors if those competitors don't make political contributions.

Step 2a: Have more beer

Step 3: Each person in Germany who is against the fiasco that has happened to their country because of multiculturalism must write a letter to their priest or minister telling them that the church will not see 1 Euro from them if the clergy don't get off their asses and start defending the Christian faith.

This is their job, after all,and they aren't doing it. Why should you pay them?

To comply, the churches must stop having the interfaith love-ins with Islam. The higher clergy must start lobbying to get airtime on the major media outlets in Germany to discuss the problems the country is facing vis-a-vis Islamization. The church(es) must regain the moral high-ground that it once held in Germany.

Above all, it means the churches must start preaching about the dangers of Islamization from the pulpit every Sunday and they must do it with informed clergy. That may mean the clergy must be educated to do this but maybe its time that Protestant and Catholic clergy actually learned something.

Discussing the dangers of Islam from the pulpits on Sunday should eventually prove to be an effective foil to the hate speech delivered in the mosques on Fridays. Perfect symmetry.

This letter must also be carbon copied to the hierarchy of the church(es)in question to make it clear that the intent is to bankrupt them if they refuse to do their Christian duty.

Step 3a Drink more beer (if out, order more beer!)

Step 4: Each person in Germany who is against the fiasco that has happened to their country because of multiculturalism must write a letter to the Chancellors of the major Universities in Germany demanding they start introducing courses on the truth about Islam, the truth about Muhammad, the truth about what Multiculturalism has done to Germany. [These courses must be named Robert Spencer 101, Robert Spencer 200, Robert Spencer 300].

Remind the Chancellors that at one time Universities were seats of learning where differing ideas were not only protected but also encouraged. Remind them that they have let their Universities slip into a morass of ignorance because they were not diligent in protecting that tradition.

Tell them they must end the monolithic liberal leftist dogma-oriented indoctrination they currently offer and replace it with real history, real philosophy and real knowledge taught by real professors that have real PHDs obtained by taking real courses combined with doing real research.

Make it clear that if they don't comply then you intend sending your sons and daughters outside Germany to get a real education. Make it clear that you also won't donate to their funding drives until they clean up their act.

Make it perfectly clear that there already is a campaign like this against the politicians and if you end up having to send your kids outside the country to get an education then you will turn the screws tighter on the politicians by demanding that the German Government terminate all grants, subsidies or other payments to German Universities. Make it clear you may also tighten the screws to end foreign subsidies that German Universities get from Saudi Arabia and like countries.

4a) Drink some more beer and sing Ein Prosit. Drink some more beer. Have someone proofread your letters because at this point they may have an incredible number of spelling and grammar errors in your efforts. Put a bag of ice on your head! Take two aspirin.

Step 5) follow up on a regular basis with the politicians to find out whether they are trying to to comply. If they have ignored you then don't vote for the incumbent and make sure you don't contribute to any politicians or political parties.

Follow up with the corporations to see if they are still making contributions to political parties. If they are then don't buy from them.

Make "if they don't comply I don't buy" your motto. If you want, put it on a T-shirt and explain it to anyone who happens to ask you what it means.

Make sure you buy from foreign companies (as you promised). The huge rise in foreign profits will let the German corps know you were serious. Even if they miss the import of the change, the shareholders won't.

Go to church regularly (I bet that will be a change)to make sure your priests or ministers are complying with your letter to them.

If they haven't, then leave the collection plate empty. If you have sent post-dated cheques to your church, cancel them, that will really get their attention when they start bouncing.

This, for sure is going to make things uncomfortable for you and for Germany. It must be done 'religiously' and en masse in order to work. It may even hurt the German economy for a while but sometimes you have to administer tough love to save your love.

Now the above sounds like a lot of work but it need not be. It requires a small group of people with access to an internet site.

That site will need to track the politicians, companies, churches and universities that aren't complying with the letter campaigns. It also should create the pro forma letters for all of the intended recipients (political, commercial, religious) and these letters must be downloadable. Yes this should be a mail-in protest not a petition protest or an Internet email protest. [You could do a mail-in and an Internet campaign simultaneously I suppose]

I'm not sure petitions ever do much good. One hundred thousand signatures scrawled over a few dozen pages wouldn't impress me as a politician or a business man but if my mail box gets crushed by an avalanche of envelopes I am sure to take notice.

The only weakness in the above actually working is the effort the Germans are willing to invest in saving their country.

If Germans think its too much effort and it would be 'easier' to live under Sharia law then Germany probably isn't worth saving.

How I agree with you, Papa Whiskey.

Nice post.

I've copied and kept it.

The various counter-islamisation groups that are springing up may, I think, find it inspirational as they work out what to do and how to do it.

The trick, of course, is to get enough people on side to start with, because a boycott only works if there are enough of you to make a difference to the income flows.

There is another side to it, of course. To identify those who *haven't* caved in, and to send them strong messages of support.

For example, suppose big supermarket chain A has gone over to halal - all meat except pork halal by default (unlabelled) whereas you discover that a smaller chain, or just a local butcher, *doesn't* stock halal (or only stocks a small amount, clearly labelled, in the same spirit as it might provide a shelf of kosher products) but continues to stock a full range of non-halal beef and poultry. The business supplying non-halal (and NOT stocking halal, or only a small clearly-labelled amount of same, tucked away in a corner) should find itself receiving a LOT more custom...and be told why, and encouraged to keep on doing what it's doing. And if A discovers that they're losing customers to the business/es that refuse to make halal the norm, well....

Or suppose the local university or college allows a member of the Resistance to speak, and provides a good venue and appropriate security presence, and encourages people to attend and think for themselves. This should be commended.

Or a bookshop is seen stocking books that are plainly and intelligently critical of Islam. That bookshop should receive LOTS of custom...and be told why.

Thank you DDA. I'm flattered you consider what I wrote worth copying.

You are 100% correct on everything you said. I am ashamed to admit I hadn't considered any of the issues that you addressed. I'm not sure why they didn't occur to me. They should have.

I guess this issue is too complicated for one mind to work out completely.

There was one issue I wanted to address, but couldn't figure out how to word it. In fact, I wasn't even sure my recommendation was advisable. The issue relates to how the German people punish the German Government for non-compliance once election time rolls around.

I skirted the issue by saying 'don't vote for the incumbent'. The idea being to make the government fall while at the same time making the specific dissatisfaction of the electorate manifest.

Not voting for the incumbent sounds like an obvious thing to do but it could lead to a disastrous outcome. I am concerned that it could lead to a fragmented German parliament, an unintended weakening of government.

If the election leads to no ruling party OR leads to no party large enough to form a coalition government then my suggestion may cause harm to Germany. That definitely is not what I want to do.

In order to turn Germany around, the country is going to need a strong Government that is dedicated to democracy.

Potentially, that government is going to be facing some pretty strong resistance (possibly violent) from the Muslim community and the Government has to be strong enough to stick to it's guns and not cave in to the Islamist pressure.

So, somehow any vote to punish the Government must be done in a way that doesn't create an election result that makes it easier for the Islamists to have their way.

If you have a solution to this dilemma I would like to hear it because I'm stumped at this point.

As a final thought, when the time comes to rollback the harmful effects of Multiculturalism, the German population that voted, in concert, to defeat the previous government must make its support of the new Government manifest (e.g. writing letters of support to the newspapers in Germany.)

Doing so will send a message to the German Government and to the Muslim community that Western values have returned as the coin of the realm.

If I have understood what you and others have said at Jihad Watch, the Islamic community is amenable to towing the line when they feel they are in a position of weakness. I suspect that the above will clarify the situation for them.

Nice talking to you DDA and thank you for your comments and ideas.