Iran plans new test for "space program" (wink-wink), this time with monkeys

Dang. .you beat me to the button. Drat and double drat.

Good point. And one can be sure that the Iranians, like everyone else in the nuclear weapons business, are well aware of the possible usage of a nuclear warhead as an EMP weapon.

You wrote:" Of course, they have to convince Putin that an invasion of Iran is not a prelude to an invasion of Russia by Nato and that may be difficult but I think Putin knows that his country is in as much danger from a nuclear Iran as the US is. If he does, the solution my be an invasion of Iran by the US and Russia."

Yes.

But not an invasion. Simply a carpet-bombing campaign, using the truly enormous non-nuke bunker-busters that both Uncle Sam and Mother Russia possess, aimed at taking out every last nuke installation (the Russkies know where they all are, they've been selling the nuke tech to the Persian Muslims...). Then everybody in both Moscow and New York could sleep a lot more peacefully o'nights.

There is a dreadful irony to this, if one is aware of history.

Way back when, it was the West - including Britain - that *prevented* Tsarist Russia from destroying the Ottoman Turks and retaking Constantinople for Eastern Christendom. A great, tragic, disastrous failure: the heirs of western Christendom refused to recognise that the Ummah was a far more dangerous and permanent enemy than Eastern Christendom, and sided with that Enemy, the Ummah, against Christian Russia.

Curiously enough, John Quincy Adams, one of America's greatest sons, despised the western Europeans' (and Britain's) siding with and support of the Turkish Muslim entity, and empathised strongly both with the Greeks and Bulgarians in their struggle to free themselves of the Muslim yoke, and with Tsarist Russia in its struggle of self-defence against Jihad.

Had Adams' insights shaped the policies of western leaders, and had Western Christendom been wiling to *help* their Eastern brethren rather than hindering them, Anatolia would be no worse off than Central Europe today, Constantinople would be a Christian city, the Muslim genocide of the Armenians would never have happened, the Hagia Sophia - the most beautiful church in Christendom - would have been a Greek Orthodox church again for some 200 years, and it is quite possible that the psychological boost of being the daughter (Russia) who rescued the Mother (Constantinople) may have had healing effects upon the Russian psyche, such that the Communist revolution might have been averted. Might have beens, might have beens.

And now we have the reverse situation. This time it is 'the West' that needs to be encouraged to destroy the warmaking capacity of a major Muslim entity (in this case, the Persian Muslims) and this time it is **Russia** who, instead of assisting her non-Muslim neighbours to destroy a Muslim bully's capacity to do harm, *protects* and arms that bully against the West...just as the West, 200 odd years ago, foolishly protected and armed the Turkish Muslim bully, preventing Russia from giving him the solid thrashing and annihilating defeat that he richly deserved.

We infidels - western or eastern - have to stop this awful habit of being suckered into siding with Muslims against our fellow-Infidels.

Post scriptum: I don't know how diligently you read these threads, and whether you may not have come across it already, for I have mentioned it on various occasions - especially when we have had Russian guests at this forum.

But here is an article that discusses - and gives extensive samples from - John Quincy Adams' remarkable series of essays on Islam, jihad, the Greek war of independence and the Russo-Turkish war.

I firmly believe that the best thing anyone could do right now is dig out those essays from where they are buried in the depths of a library, and re-issue them in pamphlet form: not only in the English they were written in, but also, and this is most important, **in modern Russian**, with suitable scholarly annotations. With a dedication - this is most important - to the following departed souls: the non-Muslim dead of September 11 2001; the children of Beslan; and to all Russian and US servicemen killed by jihadists in Afghanistan, 1980s-2011. The book to be launched simultaneously in Moscow and in New York City.

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=F3F5C99B-338A-4BC1-A4B2-585EFE643619

John Quincy Adams Knew Jihad
By Andrew G. Bostom
FrontPageMagazine.com | Wednesday, September 29, 2004

The essays comprise:

“Unsigned essays dealing with the Russo-Turkish War, and on Greece, written while JQA was in retirement, before his election to Congress in 1830”
[Chapters X-XIV (pp. 267-402) in The American Annual Register for 1827-28-29. New York, 1830.]

I have already also mentioned another fervent abolitionist, the Unitarian clergyman James Freeman Clarke, a contemporary of JQA.

Clarke wrote about Islam in chapter 11 of his book 'Ten Great Religions'.

And here is what we find in section 5 'religious doctrines and practices among the Mohammedans'.

'Two recent travellers, Mr. Palgrave and Mr. Vambéry, have described the present state of Mohammedanism in Central Arabia and Turkistan, or Central Asia.
"Barth has described it as existing among the negroes in North Africa.
"Count Gobineau has told us of Islam as it is in Persia at the present day.

"Mr. MacFarlane, in his book "Kismet, or the Doom of Turkey," has pointed out the gradual decay of that power, and the utter corruption of its administration.

"After reading such works as these,—and among them let us not forget Mr. Lane's "Modern Egyptians,"—the conclusion we must inevitably come to is, that the worst Christian government, be it that of the Pope **or the Czar,** [ my emphasis - dda] is very much better than the best Mohammedan government...

'According to Mr. MacFarlane, it would be a blessing to mankind to have the [Muslim - dda] Turks driven out of Europe and Asia Minor, and to have Constantinople become the capital of Russia."