Not that keeping a sex slave would in itself constitute adultery or corruption. Women taken captive as prisoners of war and then enslaved as concubines is sanctioned by the Qur'an, you see: "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you." -- Qur'an 4:24
This is the sort of Qur'anic provision that Muslims in the West routinely insist is a relic of the past, never to be revived again among Muslims. How is it that Salwa Al-Mutairi came to Misunderstand Islam so spectacularly?
Note also the hollowness of Islamic morality as Salwa Al-Mutairi envisions it. Islamic leaders routinely castigate the West for its immorality, but their alternative is this veneer of morality covering barbarity, brutality, and the use of women as commodities.
"Female activist calls for legalizing sex slavery," by A Saleh for Kuwait Times, June 4 (thanks to Paul):
KUWAIT: A female political activist and former parliamentary candidate has recommended the introduction of legislation to legalize the provision of enslaved female concubines for Muslim men in Kuwait in a bid, she says, to protect those men from committing adultery or corruption.The activist, Salwa Al-Mutairi, suggested apparently seriously in a video broadcast online that she had been informed by some clerics that affluent Muslim men who fear being seduced or tempted into immoral behavior by the beauty of their female servants, or even of those servants 'casting spells' on them, would be better to purchase women from an 'enslaved maid' agency for sexual purposes.
She suggested that special offices could be set up to provide concubines in the same way as domestic staff recruitment agencies currently provide housemaids.
We want our youth to be protected from adultery," said Al-Mutairi, suggesting that these maids could be brought as prisoners of war in war-stricken nations like Chechnya to be sold on later to devout merchants.
This is not religiously forbidden," she added, indicating that Caliph Haroun Al-Rashid (766-809 AD) was married to one woman but possessed 200 concubines.
Such is the savage and evil Islam and Nazi Arabic Imperialism - that will go on producing such evil but typical human beings like this Kuwaiti woman politician, who is calling for the legitimization of SEXUAL-SLAVERY of her fellow women/girls! I feel so sick reading this!
War torn nations like Chechnya...
I thought that sex slaves in Islam were only kuffar? Chechnya is a predominantly Muslim area, right? I thought that Muslims couldn't enslave other Muslims?
This Kuwaiti black-cube-worshipping quranimal sure is yet more evidence of how mahoundianism makes them suffer from Stockholm syndrome... Just as all those Jordanian penis-deprived half-males, aged 15-49, saying that it was OK for their penis possessing, full-male owners to beat the living qurap out of them.
evil does as evil is!
Among the feminists who have done so well by the hand of Judeo-Christian sexists, as they sit in their ivy covered sinecures, mum's the Word.
Sure let them go ahead and do it, but if they do understand international treaties governing warfare and the treatment of prisoners of war no longer apply to you, as you have violated them already. And sex slavery is considered an act of war on the civilized world.
Now there is an ultimatum.
Would likely shut this idiot up.
Islam vile and disgusting in all it's parts.
This makes perfect sense if you understand Islam's understanding of sexual morality. In the land where Islam sprang up, all clans and tribes were engaged in a non-ending low level war against all neighboring clans and tribes. And the goal of these conflicts was maximizing tribal and clan honor.
One of the most important aspects of tribal honor was the sexual purity of the women; which means one of the most effective means of attack was to impugn, by word and actual deed, the sexual purity of the tribe's women. When this occurred, some sort of violent response was needed to restore honor; which led of course to reprisals by the targeted tribe to restore its honor.
And so all the rules of sexual morality in Islam are designed to keep a lid on this violence, so that primitive desert tribesmen don't tear society to pieces over issues of sexual honor. And that is why sexually enslaving and brutalizing girls from outside the society, or from a defeated (hence dishonored) tribe has no moral dimension in Islam. It has no relevance to the honor or dishonoring of competing tribes or clans
So if a married man has sex with a concubine, is that not adultery?
Muhammad was right. Muslimahs are indeed deficient in intelligence. In addition, this Kuwaiti politician is evil, considering her wishes for the Chechen women (I am sure it is the Chechen/Russian non-muslim women that she wants enslaved.)
BTW, isn't Kuwait the same country whose a** the Americans saved from Saddam Hussein in the 90s. For what? So that the Kuwaitis can become pious muslims? What a waste of our resources!
"Among the feminists who have done so well by the hand of Judeo-Christian sexists, as they sit in their ivy covered sinecures, mum's the Word."
It's because they are both hypocrites and cowards, fearing retaliation for speaking out. Dealing with this issue would force them to go outside their restricted cultural comfort zone of Western male pathologies and take on the much larger and more serious world of Islam-inspired misogyny. They aren't up to the task and they know it. Besides, becoming involved would invite inevitable comparisons between themselves and the "beauty of their female servants" they would be called on to defend. Can't have that now, can we?
they are already enslaving women. so what is the problem?
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Muslim Woman Seeks to Revive Institution of Sex-Slavery by Raymond Ibrahim
ast week witnessed popular Muslim preacher Abu Ishaq al-Huwaini boast about how Islam allows Muslims to buy and sell conquered infidel women, so that “When I want a sex-slave, I go to the market and pick whichever female I desire and buy her.”
This week’s depraved anachronism comes from a Muslim woman—Salwa al-Mutairi, a political activist and former parliamentary candidate for Kuwait’s government, no less: She, too, seeks to “revive the institution of sex-slavery.”
http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2011/06/07/muslim-woman-seeks-to-revive-institution-of-sex-slavery-by-raymond-ibrahim/
You might think that Muslims would not enslave Muslims, but they have done so in the past under certain circumstances.
My,My,My,I just love this! I wish CNN would pick up on this. Let the world know that Islam is ok with female bondage, and why stop there? Sell all war captives, the hell with the Geneva Convention. Tell me again why we sent our troops to protect Kuwait?
Be interesting to see how much of the vote she gets.
I know the answer to this : but I'll ask the rhetorical anyways:
American feminists have a never ending gravy train of victimhood money because American men are so bad - and they have the "proof" (written by OTHER feminist "academics") to back it up.
So why can't those same "we love / respect / care-about" women types speak up when stories like this come along - and come along with VIDEO?
We all know why. American feminists do not like "women" - they follow an ideology. They use the mechanizm of victimhood to pay their mortgages and stay employed.
But here's the thing, and there's no getting around this:
How come, if American men are so ghastly, are we so prized, almost universally, all around the world, as potential husbands?
I know, I know : it's about the green cards and the money, right? Funny, but apparently not. See, when Americans get stationed around the world to work, serve in the military, or just go there to live - we are SOUGHT OUT for marriage. Go to any number of forums about American men living overseas for work and the threads are ENDLESS.
The flip side of that coin, is that while American women are seen as excellent companions, intimate partners, and friends - there aren't many marriage proposals.
But, but, but, .... what about the money and green cards!?
Apparently, that's not motivation enough to marry an American ...... woman.
Now - don't mistake me : there are a ton of great American women - but our court system, the endless propaganda of male-bashing, and the toxic way we chastise and guide boys when growing up, but can't even criticize women or female traits at all - ends up with a society where we have two standards.
People are people - you raise one with no deterence to bad behavior, or it is excused, and one segment where there are definate boundries and punishments for bad behavior ... well, suppose you raised your kids like that.
How would that turn out?
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So American feminists care about women? Guffaw. Yea, right. But, don't expect the liberal press to point this out : they LIKE the feminist agenda.
Give that further proof some thought.
Steven
http://www.thenational.ae/news/worldwide/middle-east/men-should-have-sex-slaves-says-female-kuwaiti-politician
KUWAIT CITY // Salwa al Mutairi, a former parliamentary candidate, said in a video posted on You Tube last month that sex slaves should be legal and prisoners from war-torn countries, such as Chechnya, would make suitable concubines.
Ms al Mutairi said she asked Saudi muftis what the Islamic ruling was on owning sex slaves while on a trip to Mecca because she had a male colleague who was "young and something of a womaniser".
The mufti told her it is not haram, or forbidden, she said. "The context must be that of a Muslim nation conquering a non-Muslim nation, so these jawari have to be prisoners of war."
Jariya is an Arabic term meaning "concubine" or "sex slave". The plural of the word is jawari.
A well known Islamic leader in Egypt by the name of Abu Ishak Al Huweini, who often appears on Egyptian TV, has recently said the following in Arabic and I have translated it into English:
“We are at a time of Jihad; Jihad for the sake of Allah is a pleasure, a true pleasure. Mohammed’s followers used to compete to do it. The reason we are poor now is because we have abandoned jihad. If only we can conduct a jihadist invasion at least once a year or if possible twice or three times, then many people on Earth would become Muslims. And if anyone prevents our dawa or stands in our way, then we must kill them or take as hostage and confiscate their wealth, women and children. Such battles will fill the pockets of the Mujahid who can return home with 3 or 4 slaves, 3 or 4 women and 3 or 4 children. This can be a profitable business if you multiply each head by 300 or 400 dirham,. This can be like financial shelter whereby a jihadist, in time of financial need, can always sell one of these heads (meaning slavery). No one can make that much money in one deal (from hard work) even if a Muslim goes to the West to work or do trade. In time of need, that is a good resource for profit.”
http://frontpagemag.com/2011/05/23/solving-poverty-the-islamic-way/
Any woman who advocates sex slavery must be taken as a sex slave herself. Any mullah who preaches using prisoner of war as a slave must be made a slave himself (war or no war)
Kuwait: "Female political activist" calls for legalizing sex slavery to protect men from "adultery or corruption"
Not that keeping a sex slave would in itself constitute adultery or corruption.
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Of course not. *This* is "Muslim morality" and "family values" in action.
More:
Women taken captive as prisoners of war and then enslaved as concubines is sanctioned by the Qur'an, you see: "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you." -- Qur'an 4:24
This is the sort of Qur'anic provision that Muslims in the West routinely insist is a relic of the past, never to be revived again among Muslims. How is it that Salwa Al-Mutairi came to Misunderstand Islam so spectacularly?
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Of course, nothing in Islam is *ever* regarded as a "relic of the past". Razzias, piracy, kidnapping for ransom or rape, enslaving women and Infidels, polygamy, forced marriage, "marrying" pre-pubescent girls-all of the Dark Ages Bedouin tribal savagery of Islam is just as au courant as can be.
More:
Note also the hollowness of Islamic morality as Salwa Al-Mutairi envisions it. Islamic leaders routinely castigate the West for its immorality, but their alternative is this veneer of morality covering barbarity, brutality, and the use of women as commodities.
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**Yes**. Westerners regularly let Muslims claim—while rarely challenging them—that the brutal customs of Islam are "moral". In fact, even most *acknowledged shortcomings* in the West are still far more moral than most Islamic norms.
And to call for the organized legalization of *sex slavery in the name of "morality"*—well, it doesn't get much uglier than that.
More:
KUWAIT: A female political activist and former parliamentary candidate has recommended the introduction of legislation to legalize the provision of enslaved female concubines for Muslim men in Kuwait in a bid, she says, to protect those men from committing adultery or corruption.
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This shows—among other awful things, of course—the mechanistic and technical nature of so much Islamic "morality". Here in the West, we frown on adultery because it violates the trust that should exist between a husband and wife.
In Islam—where men are allowed to marry up to four wives, and to take new wives *without even informing their current spouse(s)*, and to lawfully take "what the right hand possesses", and where forced and child marriages are common—such issues as love and trust are not even an issue.
Instead, it merely becomes an issue of "what the Qur'an and Hadith" allow.
And this does not even address the horror of *enslaving women*—and enslaving them, moreover, for the purpose of *rape*.
Lest you might think this insanity is exclusive to Salwa Al-Mutairi and old Islamic texts, here's the very influential on-line site AskImam on the permissibility of raping your sex slaves:
"Is having a Slave (girl) for sex nowdyas is allowed?"
http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/ask.pl?q=5482&act=view
Here's one gem:
Nevertheless, the wisdom underlying the permission granted by Shariat to copulate with a slave woman is as follows: The LEGAL possession that a Muslim receives over a slave woman from the ?Ameerul-Mu'mineen? (the Islamic Head of State) gives him legal credence to have coition with the slave woman in his possession, just as the marriage ceremony gives him legal credence to have coition with his wife. In other words, this LEGAL POSSESSION is, in effect, a SUBSTITUTE of the MARRIAGE CEREMONY. A free woman cannot be 'possessed', bought or sold like other possessions; therefore Shariat instituted a 'marriage ceremony' in which affirmation and consent takes place, which gives a man the right to copulate with her. On the other hand, a slave girl can be possessed and even bought and sold, thus, this right of possession, substituting as a marriage ceremony, entitles the owner to copulate with her. A similar example can be found in the slaughtering of animals; that after a formal slaughtering process, in which the words, ?Bismillahi Allahu Akbar? are recited, goats, cows, etc.; become ?Halaal? and lawful for consumption, whereas fish becomes ?Halaal? merely through 'possession' which substitutes for the slaughtering.
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The Imam here compares the Muslim's right to own and rape a woman to *slaughtering an animal for meat*—and so shows quite explicitly what he thinks of women.
Here's more on the Islamic "sanctity of marriage":
In short, permission to have intercourse with a slave woman was not something barbaric or uncivilised; on the contrary, it was almost as good as a marriage ceremony. In fact, possession of a slave woman resembles a marriage ceremony in many ways and both have a lot in common with each other.
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See? Married women are virtual slaves, anyway.
In addition, the Muslim owner is allowed to rape his *married* slave girls, as well—because his ownership nullifies the girl's marriage.
More from Kuwait:
The activist, Salwa Al-Mutairi, suggested apparently seriously in a video broadcast online that she had been informed by some clerics that affluent Muslim men who fear being seduced or tempted into immoral behavior by the beauty of their female servants, or even of those servants 'casting spells' on them, would be better to purchase women from an 'enslaved maid' agency for sexual purposes.
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Once again, we see the Muslim view of responsibility. If a Muslim might be attracted to an attractive employee, the solution is to *enslave the woman and rape her*.
Remember what I said earlier about even the shortcomings of Westerners looking pretty moral compared with Islam? Well, even the loathsome behavior of Arnold Schwarzenegger looks pretty good compared with this horror, and Anthony Weiner's childish and inappropriate actions look *almost saintly* in comparison.
More:
She suggested that special offices could be set up to provide concubines in the same way as domestic staff recruitment agencies currently provide housemaids.
We want our youth to be protected from adultery," said Al-Mutairi, suggesting that these maids could be brought as prisoners of war in war-stricken nations like Chechnya to be sold on later to devout merchants.
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Apparently Salwa Al-Mutairi doesn't believe Muslim youth should be "protected" from anything else. She is more than happy to turn them into slave-traders and rapists.
And I have read this last line several times before at this point—I'm still not sure whether she is advocating enslaving Infidel Russian women, or non-Arab fellow Muslims.
What does it matter in the end, though? This pious Muslimah is all too happy to sink the world in slavery because her vicious male coreligonists are unable to act like civilized human beings.
Great insight into the muslim mind, gravenimage.
She suggested that special offices could be set up to provide concubines in the same way as domestic staff recruitment agencies currently provide housemaids.
"We want our youth to be protected from adultery," said Al-Mutairi, suggesting that these maids could be brought as prisoners of war in war-stricken nations like Chechnya to be sold on later to devout merchants.
I think I understand the thinking of Al-Mutairi. You see, when a married man goes to a sex toy store, and buys for himself a plastic sex-toy, it is not really adultery if he use it, because the sex-toy is just a *THING*. In fact, if this keeps him away from other women, his wife would only be happy even if she knows that the man sometimes uses the sex-toy for his pleasure. She would not be jealous of the sex-toy.
To the mind of a muslimah like Al-Mutairi, if her husband buys for himself a sex-slave, it is not really adultery when he 'uses' the slave, because to Islam and to Al-Mutairi, the sex-slave is not a 'person' but just a *THING*. If having a sex-slave keeps her husband away from other persons(muslimahs), she would only be happy. She would not be jealous of the sex-slave.
The sex slave is not counted as a human being to these Islam afflicted muslim(ah)s. Disgusting!
I find it difficult to believe that any clearly thinking woman - most of all an "activist" - would advocate sexual degradation and abuse of fellow women.
Is it possible she was being sarcastic?
Absolute Bull. .seye gravenimage.
I doubt it. The truth is stranger than fiction.
They may "call you lennie", but I call you Prof Lennie. That was one of the tightest explainations, without getting wrapped -up in the coran. Every facet of their existance is based, and forever connected to being dirty goat hearders, fighting each other for "first" at the water hole. It's a shame, because they have some really bright and creative people. What a waste, because their ideology won't allow them to ever be "modern".
That's why they'll never, ever defeat Israel!!!!!!
Insightful comments, Liberty or Death. And thanks, London Jim.
Bamaguje wrote:
I find it difficult to believe that any clearly thinking woman - most of all an "activist" - would advocate sexual degradation and abuse of fellow women.
Is it possible she was being sarcastic?
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I'm afraid not, Bamaguje. Here's a Muslim woman—from California!—who is advocating that women be *stoned to death*:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/muslim-woman-calls-for-killing-of-adulteressesin-california.html
This evil female who is positively gloating over the prospect of seeing female captives sold as sex slaves in the markets, comes from Kuwait.
I remember a poster here, last month, who also talked about someone from Kuwait who was coolly proposing that the institution of slavery be officially revived.
In this thread:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/05/imams-en-route-to-conference-on-islamophobia-pulled-off-plane-compare-selves-to-rosa-parks.html
Al Kaafir Al Amriikii | May 7, 2011 4:58 PM | Reply
"I used to live in Saudi Arabia and I found it fascinating that many of my students still lived with their African slaves, who had been "liberated" several decades before yet had nowhere to go and no way to get there.
"This is technically not much different from the US in the 1880s... with the great exception being that the movement to abolish slavery did not develop naturally within Islamic Saudi Arabia, but rather was forced upon them by the post World War II international political order from without.
"I also used to find it sad, on some freakish level, to see all the African-American converts to Islam who had relocated to Saudi Arabia to live where they could wrap their wives up in burqas/abayas, and enjoy their unearned status of superiority over the Infidel without having done a thing to earn it,
"yet at the same time the local Arabs just looked down at them with total racist disdain and scoffed at their attempts to indigenize and become equal.
"It got so bad that in one of my classes I had to demand the Saudi students from ever referring again to the African student in my class as nigger **and slave** {my emphasis - dda} which I found repugnant. (Brilliantly, this African student was one of my best students!)
"And very technically, this anecdote could easily be recast and retold at various places across the United States, either in the past or even in the present day,
"but what really shocked me recently was a coffee I had with ** local, well educated late-20s Kuwaiti here in California** {nota bene, everyone: a Kuwaiti Muslim, a 'moderate' Muslim, living IN CALIFORNIA - dda}
"who stated to me point blank:
"Islam allows slavery, and therefore slavery should be legal and re-institutionalized.
"Its abolition is a violation of Islam and cannot be tolerated."
'Honestly, I was shocked.
'Certainly, relations between the various ethnic groups in the United States are not without their deep problems - even in the best of times -
'but never have I come across a multi-lingual, well traveled, university educated Westerner who stated or even insinuated that slavery should be reintroduced to our countries..".
Got that, everyone? A young man from Kuwait, educated, superficially westernised, living in California, and he said - IN AMERICA, ON AMERICAN SOIL -
"Islam allows slavery, and therefore slavery should be legal and re-institutionalized.
"Its abolition is a violation of Islam and cannot be tolerated."
**The abolition of slavery** is a violation of Islam and cannot be tolerated**.
That 'Kuwaiti', whoever he was, should have been reported to the police that very day. He is not fit to walk upon American soil. He openly advocated the legalising of *slavery*.
Out with him! Out! Out! Out! Kick his backside and boot him OUT.
She talks like the typical long-conditioned domestic violence victim who has come to identify with the abuser. It is an Islamic Stockholm Syndrome in which the victim sells her soul, and the souls of other women victims, in order to regain some semblance of personal power and to make false meaning out of a meaningless victimized existence. Despite being the opposite extreme, it is still much like a sex slave who endures it so long she turns into a "madam" in charge of a whore house and viciously make young girls sell themselves. After all, she had to endure it and no one rescued her. It is a sickness which helps perpetuate the abuse.
This is also a signal by the global jihad. They are spurring and enticing with greed and lust those who would help take down the West "from within." They are using the carrot of plunder of the West at a time when violent jihadists are being quietly let out of jail. If the penal system were suddenly inundated with massive jihadists who had just murdered and robbed and raped in the name of Islam, would there still be a fear of being labeled Islamophobic in prosecuting them? If there was suddenly jihadists from all over the world (which has happened in Afghanistan and Iraq) causing mass jihad crime and insurrection, would there be governmental crackdown? With this President?
Along with outlawing Sharia law in our court systems, we should also make it a serious crime to attempt to enforce Sharia law. Gang crimes of rape and robbery and destruction of property carry stiffer penalties because of the heinous disregard for others in such organized crime. The global jihad is loosely organized but they still all have the same aim, to establish and enforce Sharia law. The motivation behind establishing and enforcing Sharia law is the promise of privilege and plunder to Muslims over non-Muslims. That includes sex slaves as the spoils of war, as promised by Muhammad.
Bunty Hoven wrote:
War torn nations like Chechnya...
I thought that sex slaves in Islam were only kuffar? Chechnya is a predominantly Muslim area, right? I thought that Muslims couldn't enslave other Muslims?
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I wondered about that myself, Bunty—whether this vicious b*tch wanted to see Infidel sex slaves, or if she was fine with seeing non-Arab Muslims treated in the same manner.
Well—it is certainly true that non-Arab Muslims *have* been subjected to these horrors—just recently, we have see the terrible wave of rapes committed by Sudanese "Arabs" against black African Muslim women in Darfur.
But here Salwa Al-Mutairi is being more usually true to form—she gleefully foresees Infidel women pressed into sexual slavery:
"The supply would come from war zones where non-Muslim captives can be taken, she suggested.
For example, al-Mutairi said, there must be Russian women captured in Chechnya who could be sold in Kuwait. If not forced into sex, they would 'just die of hunger over there'."
http://rt.com/news/activist-sex-sold-war/
Note that this implies several terrible things:
Firstly, that her coreligionists are taking not just Infidels captive, but specifically *non-combatant women*.
It then further implies that these good Muslims would *let their captives starve to death* unless they were able to sell them off to oil-rich Arabs *as sex slaves*.
One horror after another. God, I hate Islam.
I know this is a late comment and will be seen by few people, but I saw the movie "Taken", starring Liam Neeson the other day in which Albanian (muslim) kidnappers take the daughter of a Ex-CIA agent and then he goes looking for her. It's a good revenge movie and the end will be satisfying if you, like me, consider yourself an Anti-Jihadist.