Hamas-linked CAIR rep insists that Sharia is not a threat, neglects to mention the bloody bits

This is so nauseatingly and embarrassingly deceptive, cloyingly feel-good and pitifully easy to take apart I wonder why Nezar Hamze cares to put his name to it.

Vote "Muslim" or you're a bigoted racist. Lol.

http://ancienthebrewpoetry.typepad.com/ancient_hebrew_poetry/2010/05/krister-stendahls-three-rules-of-religious-understanding.html

(1) When you are trying to understand another religion, you should ask the adherents of that religion and not its enemies.

(2) Don't compare your best to their worst.

(3) Leave room for “holy envy.” (By this Stendahl meant that you should be willing to recognize elements in the other religious tradition or faith that you admire and wish could, in some way, be reflected in your own religious tradition or faith.)

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know your enemy..

http://newstime.co.nz/sharia-law-punishment.html
Stoning according to ahadith Sahih Bukhari + Muslim

Finger Amputate & behadings of unbelievers (Q 47:4 + 8:12 “... smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them” 5:38 “(thiefs) cut off his or her hands”) & Eye Removal
according to Bukhari Vol. 4, Book 52, #261 --- repeated in Vol. 1, Book 4, #231

(graphic video) Warning: 01:00 – 1:45 ....

I refer to 'Christlam' to prove my point.. refer to point (3)

holy envy.. what horse shit.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=311473
Van Impe ministry abandons TBN in clash over Islam
Network turned back episode that challenged leaders over 'apostasy'

Van Impe explains that the Bible prophesies a one-world government and a one-world religion during the end times, and his concern focuses on the move among some Christian organizations to adopt some Islamic thought and incorporate elements of Islam into their worship.

"We've got too many of these mush-mouth preachers. All they're doing is two stories and a movie review," he said. But the Bible actually outlines that its messages also are to "reprove and rebuke" Christians for failing to live for God.

According to the broadcast, "Chrislam is a term that may be used more often among apostate churches."

Such Islamic and evangelical Christian leaders, the report explained, are working to find a way to promote "common beliefs the two religions supposedly share."

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Thank mormons for opening the door..

Smarmy, smug, dry-heave-inducing crap-master Hamze can shove his "religion" up his you-know-what.

I have repeatedly posted the blow comment on Miami Herald

The dhimmi (9:29) admin deleted it immediately for not accepting the truth

SHAME ON MIAMI HERALD THE ULTIMATE DHIMMI'S DHIMMI & COWARD QUSLINGS

http://newstime.co.nz/sharia-law-punishment.html
Stoning according to ahadith Sahih Bukhari + Muslim

Finger Amputate & behadings of unbelievers (Q 47:4 + 8:12 “... smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them” 5:38 “(thiefs) cut off his or her hands”) & Eye Removal
according to Bukhari Vol. 4, Book 52, #261 --- repeated in Vol. 1, Book 4, #231

No wonder many Muslims don't want to debate Robert Spencer anymore. He rips their arguments to shreds, as here. And this is being noticed by an ever increasing audience in America and throughout the West. Good.

And ultimately, as Islam is based on a lie, apologists must say what is Taqqiya-compliant as well as Sharia-compliant.

"Educate yourself on Islam. If you don’t know any Muslims, try to meet one. Say “Salam” (peace), and ask questions. Get to know them. Go to a ballgame, or go fishing. Be American together."

Ask questions? OK, the next time I meet a muslim then I will pose but ONE question upon meeting them ...

Why have you chosen to follow or identify yourself with an evil man like muhammad? ...the vilest criminal known to man!

Hey I seriously doubt that they'll want to go to ball game with me after that query.

Be American together.

Can't be done. Muslims are not and cannot be Americans, as General Secretary Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu candidly admitted in a speech at Columbia University on Sept. 18, 2008:

The Muslim Ummah, means the 'community of the faithful'. It is a unique bond that has no similar example under any other political or religious system in the world. It is a belonging to ideals which bring Muslims together in an eternal brotherhood lock which transcends all other consideration of allegiance or loyalties or barriers of nationhood, ethnicity, geography or language.

See also Verse 48:29 of the ignoble Qur'an, which mandates that Muslims be "hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves."

They are not us and we are not them. Ball games and fishing, indeed!

Correx: That's Organization of the Islamic Conference Secretary General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu.

Love your closing line, Robert!
"I am all for people educating themselves on Islam. I strongly recommend it, in fact."

"Educate yourself on Islam. If you don’t know any Muslims, try to meet one. Say “Salam” (peace), and ask questions. Get to know them. Go to a ballgame, or go fishing. Be American together."

Living in Rotterdam, I know many Muslims, meet and speak to them regularly. And ask questions about Islam every once in a while. And would like to ask many, many more. But ... at present; all I get in response, in a nutshell, is either evasiveness or strife.

I DID confront Muslims occasionally with facts and logic and it became clear to me that they will avoid talking about Islam themselves, at least as soon as criticism is given. If I persist, then, it is my experience, that they either excuse themselves or respond so angry that the incentive for me to go on getting to know them about their religious beliefs is thoroughly discouraged.

And it is the same with the many Muslim-defenders around me, actually worse, because there are many more of them here. When engaging them in a real debate with real questions about Islam, then it soon becomes clear the discussion is unwelcome to them, they assert that it is too serious, too hateful, too phobic, as a matter of course. They invariably excuse themselves in some way, or change topic, and tell in clear verbal or body language that THAT topic is very unwelcome in the future.

And it is my contention that that attitude by Muslims and Muslim-defenders alike is provoking much more confrontational language from Islam-critical and real Islam-wise people. It often seems to me that respectful, begging-to-listen-style, polite discussing Islam just is not listened to or considered for any lenght of time and not effective. But legitimate complaints about real problems cannot be ignored and will not go away.

And that is why I refuse to give any one the right to NOT BE OFFENDED. And why I admire and support Robert Spencer so much.

We can look at U.S. Rep. Allen West’s campaign as proof of its effectiveness. West routinely bashed Islam during his campaign, with statements such as,. “We are at war with Islam” and “Islam is not a religion.” He said that the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 were doing exactly what the Quran told them. He won in 2010.

Yes, he won. Thank you, Col West for speaking the truth, and thank you to his constituents who elected him. I hope and wish more politicians would follow his and Geert Wilders' example.

@ Undaunted...I couldn't think of a better word than your "smarmy" to describe this bit of taqiyya.

"...one is either a Muslim who adheres to all aspects of Sharia law, or they are not truly Muslims. They are committing blasphemy and are Apostates if they were to describe themselves as moderates. Al Qaida and the Taliban have shown people thousands of times how they deal with a person who wants to be a moderate Muslim. They routinely behead the person (usually after they have tortured them for hours). There is no such thing in Islam as a moderate Muslim. A moderate Muslim is a person who is not practicing Islam as their Prophet Mohammed dictated to them."-Dave Gaubatz

So the bearded buffoon taqiyya artist is simply another "Akbar Zeb " or biggest dick ( not in the complimentary form) trying to con the unbeliever...spit...

Yeah, take a Muslim to a ballgame. They love that sort of thing!

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/sami-samir-hassoun-backpack-bomb-chicago-wrigley-wrigleyville-20100920

Sharia following Muslims are the biggest threat to all non-Muslim nations. the West is ignoring this threat which could result in its destruction - the ultimate dream of all Muslims.

Islam is both submission and peace...What this means to Kuffar is, convert to Islam by submitting (shahada), then you can have peace, if you refuse you will get war...
This is circular because when you get the peace of Islam, you also get the obligation to jihad, which is not peace...
So, you are promised something that Islam cannot actually deliver...I think this is called fraud...

Hamas-linked CAIR rep insists that Sharia is not a threat, neglects to mention the bloody bits
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Of course, even without the "bloody bits" Shari'ah law is a horror of institutionalized oppression of women, children, and non-Muslims that codifies unequal treatment before the law.

Even leaving aside floggings, amputations and stonings-and their unequal handing down of such sentences—Shari'ah is still appalling.

"Marriage and family law" is its most seemingly civilized face, and the one that is held up most frequently to concerned Infidels.

Even here, though, Shari'ah is a hell of forced and underage marriage, polygamy, wife beating, unequal divorce and child custody laws, unequal inheritance laws, and mistreatment of non-Muslims.

While some aspects of Shari'ah are gaudier and more horrifying than others, *all* of it is profoundly unjust.

The *only* exceptions to the rule above are quibbling points of Islamic ritual, such as Wudu or the proper manner of wiping one's posterior with an odd number of small stones while facing sidelong to Mecca.

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"'Moozlims.'" "Pitchforks." Hamze is semaphoring that the only people who could possibly be concerned about Sharia are ignorant racist yahoos. This is just a smear tactic, but it works insofar as it warns unreflective and uninformed Leftists (i.e., virtually all Leftists) not to dare to oppose Sharia: we wouldn't want to align with rednecks, now, would we?
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That's *exactly* what Hamze is doing—especially in the Miami Herald—many of whose readers consider themselves "enlightened liberals" in a state full of "conservative populist know-nothings".

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...So the textbook definition for Islam is peace acquired through the submission to the will of God. Therefore, Islam conveys a practical application of God’s word to all aspects of one’s life.
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"All aspects of one's life"—sounds pretty benign, until you realize that this includes not only living under Shari'ah law, but imposing Shari'ah on Infidels, as well.

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Islam teaches humanity how to believe, worship and maintain their relationship with God. Islam teaches humanity the significance of family values and how to honor: mothers, fathers, children, grandparents, husbands, wives, aunts, uncles and cousins. Islam also teaches humanity how to deal with society, commerce, education, friends, neighbors, the poor, orphans, government, justice, property and, most important, the sanctity of human life.
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Good God—where to start? Sometimes "honoring" mothers, wives, aunts, and children under Islam means *honor killing* them.

And what could be more laughable than the idea of the "sanctity of human life" under Islam? Except for the concept that a Muslim's life is worth more than that of a woman or infidel, of course...

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The Sharia is Islamic rulings from Muslim scholars and jurists that keep Muslims on the path toward abiding faith. The source of the Sharia is the Quran and teachings of the Prophet Mohammed. The Sharia covers all aspects of a Muslim’s life and explains what is prohibited and permissible.
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Part of the "teachings of the Prophet Muhammed" include stonings. Nothing will "keep Muslims on the path to abiding faith" than stoning "adulterers" to death!

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Is Sharia a threat? According to Adam Hasner, a Republican candidate for the Senate from Florida and former state legislator, “Today there is an enemy, and that enemy is Sharia-compliant Islam.”

This statement is ridiculous. When I wash before praying, this is Sharia-compliant Islam. When I offer a greeting to someone, this is Sharia- compliant Islam. What in the world is Hasner talking about?
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Even something as seemingly benign as offering greetings is skewed under Shari'ah, where a Muslim is not to greet a Christian or a Jew as an equal.

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When I cut out a woman's clitoris, this is Sharia-compliant Islam. When I forbid non-Muslims to practice their faith openly, this is Sharia-compliant Islam. When I count a non-Muslim's life as less valuable than a Muslim's, that is Sharia-compliant Islam. When I brutally lash a woman, that is Sharia-compliant Islam. When I smash musicians' instruments and threaten them that they better not play music again or else, that is Sharia-compliant Islam. When I wage war against and subjugate unbelievers, that is Sharia-compliant Islam. What in the world is Hamze talking about? Does he really expect us to believe that Hasner is upset about washing before prayers and greeting people?
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Bravo, Mr. Spencer. Biting and accurate.

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Some politicians, groups and individuals commonly reduce the totality of the Sharia to its penal code. The penal code within the Sharia is not unique to the teachings of the Quran and the Prophet Mohammed. It is also in the Torah and Talmud and part of the teachings of Prophet Moses. Having said that, it is important to recognize that regardless of the contrast, the penal codes within these texts are not the totality of the teachings of any religion and never explained as such. Why the double standard?
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Uh...maybe because Jews aren't stoning people to death, and, in fact, have not done so in millenia?

Also, the whole point about how the "penal code is not the totality of teachings" is grotesque. There was a lot more to National Socialism than the Holocaust, as well—but was a Jewish victim shoved into a cattle car on his way to Auschwitz supposed to spend his time contemplating the Nazi concepts of "lebensraum" or "entartete kunst", and content himself that Fascism was "not monolithic"?

Ridiculous.

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In reality, Sharia has been involved in court cases in 23 states. And while "not one Muslim has introduced anything to any legislative body calling for Sharia to replace the Constitution or for the Sharia to replace the law of the land"
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No—but there have been calls for the imposition of Shari'ah. Besides Imam Musa and the Muslim Brotherhood, there is more. This story, from earlier this year:

"British jihadists Imam Anjem Choudary, Abu Izzadeen and Sayful Islam, have announced that they will arrive in Washington next week to lead a rally calling on American Muslims to establish Shariah Islamic law and an ‘Islamic state in America.’"

http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2011/02/26/american-leaders-confront-call-by-uk-jihadist-cleric-who-urges-sharia-in-america/

The only reason these Jihadists didn't carry through their plan was that they couldn't enter the country. Doesn't change their message, though.

"If CAIR isn’t interested in introducing aspects of sharia law into the U.S. court system (as they claim) then why do they fight tooth and nail when attempts are made to ensure this doesn’t happen?"

Hamze is a clown. Beyond ridiculous.

Just look at this whining piece of crapola he wrote after he was smacked down by Allen West:

Allen West "Brought Great Shame" to U.S., Says Muslim who Confronted the Congressman

At a town-hall-style meeting February 21, Nezar Hamze stood to ask Allen West a pointed question. Hamze, executive director of the Council on American Islamic Relations, asked West why he keeps claiming that the Qur'an instructs Muslims to attack America (read more about that exchange here). West cut Hamze off before he could say much more than that. So we asked Hamze to write up what he intended to say to West that night. Below is Hamze's response.

​Congressman Allen West was once asked by a Marine why people would warp the religion of Islam to attack America. Mr. West replied to him: It's not a perversion; they are doing exactly what the Qur'an is telling them to do. So I called him out on his statements.

It was a very simple question I asked: Can you show me where in the Qur'an it says to
attack America, kill Americans, or kill innocent people? He replied that the Qur'an was written before America existed and mentioned something about the verse of the sword and killing infidels. Unfortunately the crowd was so excited and so vocal against me that my response was cut off. Mr. West lost his composure and told me "not to blow sunshine up his butt." Then he said that I attacked America and told me to go home. For the record, I didn't go home; I returned to my seat and finished listening to his presentation.

Mr. West, you have brought great shame to the United States House of Representatives. Your behavior that evening represents the antithesis of our democratic republic. We look to our leaders to answer difficult questions with dignity and composure. Your behavior represented that of a military commander barking orders at a soldier. Mr. West, you are no longer a military commander, and I am not your enemy. You looked at me and said, "You attacked us, you attacked us." I didn't attack anything, and for you to accuse me of such horrific events is just as baseless as your knowledge of Islam. Terrorists attacked us on 9/11, Mr. West. Terrorists attacked us!

I grew up in Fort Lauderdale just like any normal American boy. I was heavily into sports -- baseball, football, wrestling, boxing, golf, triathlons, and karate. I also hit the gym pretty hard. I studied automotive technology and took a career path into management. I continued my education in business management and specialized in operations management. I have authored leadership development courses and facilitated training for multiple companies. There's just one thing that sets me apart from most other people: When I was a child, I began practicing Islam.

I grew up with many friends of different faiths and always got along. I would even go to church and temple with them every once and a while. I've always been a law-abiding citizen and often volunteered for different groups. I was a Big Brother volunteer as well as always volunteering for my local community functions at the Islamic Centers. I currently have four beautiful children, and I am happily married. My two boys are following in my footsteps, and my two girls are getting ready to start playing softball.

I recently started with the Council on American Islamic Relations as executive director. As an American Muslim that practices Islam, I have seen our society change over the last 30 years. In the '80s, the most controversial event the American Muslim community had to deal with was the film Not Without My Daughter. Oh, how the times have changed. Today's society, the American people are still looking for justice for the terrorist attacks on September 11. While America has held many accountable, we still have not seen justice. Some are trying to hold the American Muslim community accountable, and some even go as saying Islam attacked America -- as Allen West said to me.

Allen West was brought to my attention by a member of the community, referring me to clips of his campaign events. As you review the clips, you quickly see Mr. West is presenting himself as a critic of Islam to the American people, while teaching them falsehoods about our faith. He is not the only politician trying to score points with his constituents using Islam as the punching bag. This unfortunately has become a nationwide phenomenon. The critics of Islam self-proclaim scholarly knowledge and feed the American public twisted, perverted explanations of the Qur'an that have no base and support.

Mr. West, you have developed an autocratic style of rambling off dates and names of wars mostly regarding imperial armies and the Ottoman Empire. You never actually go into the details of the war, you just name them, insinuating Islam was the problem. You have also surrounded yourself with the nation's most hateful anti-Islam propagandist. During your campaign, these propagandists gave you a stage and fueled your audiences with anti-Islam insults. There is also documented history that you have had relationships with these groups before you ran for office, while you were stationed abroad. Your progression in the pronunciation of Arabic words is a clear giveaway that you are not learning about Islam from a learned Muslim -- you are learning about Islam from non-Muslims.

You mentioned the verse of the sword and something about killing infidels when I asked you to show me a verse in the Qur'an. Well, Mr. West, there is no verse of the sword in the Qur'an and no mention of infidels. The word infidel is not even an Islamic word. The term infidel was used by the Christian crusaders against Muslims. That's right, Christians used to kill the infidels (the Muslims). I have yet to read a Qur'an that has the word infidel in it. Please feel free to do some research on the origin of that word.

I encourage you to actually read the Qur'an and not take a sentence out of context and change the meaning and historical relevance to suit your own needs. You can also reach out to the Islamic community that lives in your district. I will encourage them to contact you as well.

Mr. West, I have tried numerous times to reach out to you and explain the backlash that your rhetoric is causing. I am on the ground dealing with the product of Anti-Islam propaganda every day. For you to ignore my concerns regarding the Islamic community is irresponsible and does not reflect credibility on the United States House of Representatives. You work for us, the American taxpayers. We don't work for you.

In closing, I extend my hand in friendship as a father, as an American, and as a civil servant. I am not your enemy. When I stood in front of you that evening, I was representing the American Islamic community and the rights of all Americans. To live in peace, practice their faith without being harassed, and not be insulted by a United States congressman. We have all made mistakes, and we should learn from them. You have a unique opportunity to build bridges with the Islamic community and apologize to us for blaming Islam for the terrorist attacks on our great nation.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

-- Nezar Hamze

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2011/02/allen_west_nezar_hamze.php

"...most of what you hear is from politicians with a religious viewpoint or media outlets creating an illusion of an enemy."

...or so, in a typical attempt at diversion, he would have us believe. Actually, "what we hear" isn't so much what we "hear," but rather what we read, more and more of us (thanks in no small measure to Robert Spencer) about the basic facts of Islam as a religion and its historical record, the widespread trampling of human rights within Muslim societies, and by the importation of disgusting Islamic practices sanctioned by shariah into Western societies.

''You have a unique opportunity to build bridges with the Islamic community and apologize to us for blaming Islam for the terrorist attacks on our great nation.''

The 9/11 murderers quoted from the qu'ran. Every terrorist, foiled or successful, has quoted from the qu'ran as his/her motivation.

So, if not islam, what should Americans blame these terrorist attacks on ? Oh, I know. 'A tiny minority of religious extremists, who have hijacked the peaceful religion of islam.' Spit.