The Muslim Brothers "must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions." -- "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America," by Mohamed Akram, May 19, 1991.
One might think, in light of that, that this was an example of the old adage, Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. But it isn't. It is cluelessness and capitulation, and more fantasy-based policymaking -- as epitomized by the "intelligence" chief James Clapper, who claimed that the Brotherhood was "largely secular."
"Exclusive: U.S. to resume formal Muslim Brotherhood contacts," by Arshad Mohammed for Reuters, June 29 (thanks to all who sent this in):
(Reuters) - The United States has decided to resume formal contacts with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, a senior U.S. official said on Wednesday, in a step that reflects the Islamist group's growing political weight but that is almost certain to upset Israel and its U.S. backers."The political landscape in Egypt has changed, and is changing," said the senior official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "It is in our interests to engage with all of the parties that are competing for parliament or the presidency." [...]
Elliott Abrams, a deputy national security adviser handling Middle East affairs under former President George W. Bush, said he favored dropping the ban on formal contacts -- but approaching any actual dealings with great caution.
Abrams said positions espoused by some Brotherhood members -- such as favoring religious tests for public office, questioning the rights of women and limiting freedom of religion or speech -- were "anathema" to the United States.
The group says it wants a civil state based on Islamic principles, but talk by some members of an "Islamic state" or "Islamic government" have raised concerns that their goal is a state where full Islamic sharia law is implemented. The group says such comments have been taken out of context.
Of course! Aren't they always?
"It's critical ... that we make it very, very clear to Egyptians, if we are going to do a meeting, that we are no less opposed to the ideas they represent," Abrams said, noting that there are splits among Brotherhood members."We have to think about whether we can use meetings to deepen those splits and to help, quietly, those who are trying to moderate the positions of the Brotherhood," he added, saying the United States should choose its interlocutors with care and that the talks need not be conducted by the U.S. ambassador.
The U.S. official who declined to be identified said U.S. diplomats "will continue to emphasize the importance of support for democratic principles and a commitment to nonviolence, and respect for minority and women's rights in conversations with all groups, including the Muslim Brotherhood."
Yeah, that'll work.
When you sup with the devil, use a long spoon. (old adage) But I doubt there's a spoon long enough when you sup with The Muslim Brotherhood.
Drip by drip, each new day brings us one step closer to our demise. The politicians are clueless at best and complicit at worst. Iran is testing ballistic missiles while their centrifuges continue to enrich uranium to weapons grade - all the while proclaiming the Great Satan will soon be destroyed. Hitler and his Nazi party look like schoolgirls compared to these genocidal zealots.
Nothing to see here...just move along...
"A civil society based on Islamic principles..."
Isn't that just an ironic way of stating "Islamist theocracy"?
"Elliott Abrams, a deputy national security adviser handling Middle East affairs under former President George W. Bush, said he favored dropping the ban on formal contacts...."
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What else can Abrams do but support this dangerous U.S. president's deplorable policies? After all, Obama is following Bush's "freedom agenda" in the Middle East. Abrams penned a piece of idiocy in the Washington Post a few months back entitled: "Egypt protests show George W. Bush was right about freedom in the Arab world." Here we have an example of another misguided Bush-supporter turned Obama-supporter.
http://newstime.co.nz/video-shariah-the-threat-to-america-a-short-course-on-shariah-and-the-muslim-brotherhood.html
Islamic Center of Southern California
and the LA Police Department
Deputy Chief Michael Downing
downingm@lapd.lacity.org
vs.
The BRAVE HERO Tom Trento asked an inconvenient question to the Deputy chief Michael Downig of the LA Police Department “What are your doing to inform the citizens of the danger of the Muslim Brotherhood?”
Islam whitewasher & coward quisling (paid by your tax dollars!!!) replied
“NOT to demonize the Muslim Brotherhood.”
& “…to have Islam and democracy coexist”
Dr. Ali Sina page iii “…Democracy is a concept alien to the Muslim psyche — to the extent that there is no equivalent terminology for it in Arabic or in other languages spoken by Muslims. If they have no word for it, if follows that they cannot conceive it. For Muslims, the rule belongs to Allah.”
Quote of pious Muslim Brotherhood
(cf. Qur’an 9:33, 8:39, 2:193 and 61:9)
by Mohamed Akram, May 19, 1991
The United States has decided to resume formal contacts with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt...
... and throw the secularists and any chance of a secular state in Egypt under the Islamic bus.
Obama is getting good at pushing people into moving traffic just as a bus comes along. If fact I'd say he's done it so many times now that it's becoming a defining charactaristic of his administration - Israel, Mubarak, the Egyptian Secularists... who's next?
Of course he is. Why wouldn't the Dhimmi-in-Chief do that? This isn't news, it's par for the course.
Takes one to know one!
Obamma and the MoBros and just want to be live in the same 'hood. (remember mister Rogers song?)
If we only engage with the democratic and libral groups it would leave them open to accusations of being our puppets like Muburak was accused of - then they would be guaranteed to loose the elections.
If we engage with the MB we have a chance of influencing them (ha ha) and they can't accuse their enemies of being our puppets if it is widely known we are engadging with everyone. Well, they still would anyway- we all know how shamelessly mendatious the MB is, but the result would be increased public perception that they are hypocrites.
Plus if we engage them they themselves will then be open to the accusation of being our puppets in future, should anyone want to start that rumor.
It's may not be win-win, but it's still not loose-not loose.
Quoted from and linked to here: Obama Officially Embraces Muslim Brotherhood, Designates Israel Sponsor of Terrorism
This is a tacit admission that any American attempts to foster secular democracy in the Middle East have failed, and that the MB's moment in the Middle East is now, just as Communism's moment in the Far East was between 1950 and 1980.
Tziona, while Mubarak was doubtlessly better than what follows him, please keep in mind that the man was over 80 when he stepped down, and also used the Islamic bigotry of the Egyptian street to turn the ire of the mob against the Copts from time to time rather than allow it to question his own regime. The only reason why he didn't turn it against Egypt's Jews is because that community, which had been in existence since the 6th century BC, dwindled to virtually nothing. Further, it was the government-controlled Egyptian press in the Mubarak years that republished the _Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion_ and the sort of disgusting, lying, and filthy anti-American and anti-Israeli propaganda that the Egyptian street parrots today.
Further proof, if such be needed, that Obama is a Comintern mole implementing the strategy of allying with Islamic jihad to destroy Western Civilization.
Funny you should draw that conclusion Albert, I was thinking along the same lines as I read the article.
By the end of the article I thought of the great ending of George Orwell's classic allegory, 'Animal Farm'.
In that part of the story, the two mortal enemies, the humans and the pigs (who have 'sold out' all the other farm animals) are playing a card game while the 'sold out animals observe the game through a window. As Orwell puts it:
Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Islam has stayed several steps ahead of the Weastern world for a very long time. Rest be assured the Muslim Brotherhood is not about to enter any talks with integraty. Islam demands submission not civil freedom. What do we know about the Brotherhood?
This writing was written a few years ago. It goes like this:
""THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD'S "GENERAL STRATEGIC GOAL" FOR NORTH AMERICA
In July 2007, seven key leaders of an Islamic charity known as the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) went on trial for (and were found guilty of) charges that they had: (a) provided "material support and resources" to a foreign terrorist organization...namely Hamas, (b) engaged in money laundering; and (c) breached the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which prohibits transactions that threaten American national security. Along with the seven named defendants, the U.S. government released a list of approximately 300 "unindicted co-conspirators" and "joint venturers." During the course of the HLF trial, many incriminating documents were entered into evidence. Perhaps the most significant of these was " An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" by the Muslim Brotherhood operative Mohamed Akram.
Written sometime in 1987 but not formally published until May 22, 1991, this 18-page document listed the Brotherhood’s 29 like-minded "organizations of our friends" that shared the common goal of dismantling American institutions and turning the U.S. into a Muslim nation. These "friends" were identified by Akram and the Brotherhood as groups that could help convince Muslims "that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands ... so that ... "God's religion [Islam] is made victorious over all other religions."
Akram was well aware that in the U.S., it would be extremely difficult to promote Islam by means of terror attacks. Thus the “grand jihad” that he and his Brotherhood comrades envisioned was not a violent one involving bombings and shootings, but rather a stealth (or "soft") jihad aiming to impose Islamic Law (Sharia) over every region of the earth by incremental, non-confrontational means, such as working to “expand the observant Muslim base”; to “unif[y] and direc[t] Muslims' efforts”; and to “present Islam as a civilization alternative.” At its heart, Akram's document details a plan to conquer and Islamize the United States – not as an ultimate objective, but merely as a stepping stone toward the larger goal of one day creating “the global Islamic state."
In line with this objective, Akram and the Brotherhood resolved to "settle" Islam and the Islamic movement within the United States, so that the Muslim religion could be "enabled within the souls, minds and the lives of the people of the country.” Akram explained that this could be accomplished “through the establishment of firmly-rooted organizations on whose bases civilization, structure and testimony are built.” He urged Muslim leaders to make “a shift from the collision mentality to the absorption mentality,” meaning that they should abandon any tactics involving defiance or confrontation, and seek instead to implant into the larger society a host of seemingly benign Islamic groups with ostensibly unobjectionable motives; once those groups had gained a measure of public acceptance, they would be in a position to more effectively promote societal transformation by the old Communist technique of “boring from within.”
“The heart and the core” of this strategy, said Akram, was contingent upon these groups' ability to develop “a mastery of the art of 'coalitions.'” That is, by working synergistically they could complement, augment, and amplify one another's efforts. Added Akram: “The big challenge that is ahead of us is how to turn these seeds or 'scattered' elements into comprehensive, stable, 'settled' organizations that are connected with our Movement and which fly in our orbit and take orders from our guidance.” The ultimate objective was not only an enlarged Muslim presence, but also implementation of the Brotherhood objectives of transforming pluralistic societies, particularly America, into Islamic states, and sweeping away Western notions of legal equality, freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, and freedom of speech.
Akram and the Brotherhood understood that in order to succeed in this endeavor, they needed to appeal to different strata of the American population in different ways; that whereas some people could be influenced by messages delivered from a religious perspective, others would be more responsive to messages delivered by educators, or bankers, or political figures, or journalists, etc. Thus, Akram's blueprint for the advancement of the Islamic movement stressed the need to form a coalition of groups coming from the worlds of education; religious proselytization; political activism; audio and video production; print media; banking and finance; the physical sciences; the social sciences; professional and business networking; cultural affairs; the publishing and distribution of books; children and teenagers; women's rights; vocational concerns; and jurisprudence.
By promoting the Islamic movement on such a wide variety of fronts, the Brotherhood and its allies could multiply exponentially their influence. Toward that end, the Akram/Brotherhood “Explanatory Memorandum " named the following 29 groups as the organizations they believed could collaborate effectively to destroy America from within – “if they all march according to one plan”:
Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)
ISNA Fiqh Committee (now known as the Fiqh Council of North America)
ISNA Political Awareness Committee
Muslim Youth of North America
Muslim Students Association of the U.S. and Canada
Association of Muslim Scientists and Engineers
Islamic Medical Association (of North America)
Islamic Teaching Center
Malaysian Islamic Study Group
Foundation for International Development
North American Islamic Trust
Islamic Centers Division
American Trust Publications
Audio-Visual Center
Islamic Book Service
Islamic Circle of North America
Muslim Arab Youth Association
Islamic Association for Palestine
United Association for Studies and Research
International Institute of Islamic Thought
Muslim Communities Association
Association of Muslim Social Scientists (of North America)
Islamic Housing Cooperative
Muslim Businessmen Association
Islamic Education Department
Occupied Land Fund (later known as the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development)
Mercy International Association
Baitul Mal Inc.
Islamic Information Center (of America)""
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The Muslim Brotherhood is not about to be honest or share its true colors with any kafir. Integraty is not part of the Brotherhoods character.
''Muslim Brotherhood leader and former spokesman in the West calls for establishment of a global Islamic state
Caliphate dreams from the Muslim Brotherhood -- and they've never had a better opportunity to transform those dreams into reality than they do now. "Muslim Brotherhood Figure and Former Spokesman in the West: Establish a Global Islamic State," from MEMRI, June 24 (thanks to all who sent this in):
In a June 8, 2011 interview with the Egyptian daily Al-Shorouq, Dr. Kamal Al-Helbawy, former Muslim Brotherhood spokesman in the West, called upon the Arab youth to launch a new revolution that would eliminate the borders drawn by imperialist nations and bring about the establishment of a global Islamic state – "called 'The United States of Islam.'" According to Al-Helbawy, the Muslim Brotherhood is active in approximately 80 countries and strives to realize the dream of becoming a global organization.
Following are excerpts from the interview: [...]
"Here I must ask bluntly: Why did Israel say that Mubarak is a strategic treasure? Because his crimes act as a barrier against the resistance and the Muslim Brotherhood. In this atmosphere, it was hard to manage a global organization. Today, there is great hope that we can realize [this goal], since we witnessed the opening of the Muslim Brotherhood's new headquarters, attended by Brotherhood [activists] from all countries.
"The Muslim Brotherhood is organized in 80 countries, and they and the Islamists have a right to establish a global movement, much like global socialism or Zionism..."
"Why Shouldn't We Have A Country Called 'The United States Of Islam'... I Propose That the Arab Peoples... Take To the Streets With the Slogan 'The Arab People Wants To Remove the Borders [Between Its Countries]'
"Q: Regarding the global organization – will a Muslim Brotherhood member associate himself with the [global] movement or with his homeland? And what will happen should there be a contradiction between them?"
"A: There will be no contradictions. Our thinking and our affiliation are to the exalted Allah. Our affiliation is to Islam. The global state of Islam is our ideal...
"How will countries like Bahrain or Qatar defend themselves? Why shouldn't we have a country called 'The United States of Islam,' ruled by a white man or a black man...
"I propose that the Arab peoples who demonstrated for the sake of the revolution, so they could move from the stage of oppression and corruption to the stage of stability and security, organize themselves from now on and set a deadline – five or 10 years – [and] take to the streets with the slogan 'The Arab People Wants to Remove the Borders [Between Its Countries]'... These borders were drawn up by imperialist nations, making our rulers guardians of imperialist borders... [...]
"I say to our Salafi brothers: Why do you focus only on [external] appearance, on the beard, the miswak [tooth-cleaning stick noted in Islamic jurisprudence], and the jilbab [religious garment]? There are many things far more important to Muslim society – chiefly a military industry, which is a means and a tool of jihad, as Ibn Taymiyya said...
"If Ibn Taymiyya were among us, what would he think of [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad's stance against Israel, while Arab rulers protect Israeli embassies and applaud the symbols of the Zionist entity?"''