Afghan women's rally takes place; Afghan men are 'red-faced with anger', but it's got nothing to do with Islam

MSNBC's Sebastian Rich has written about a recent, modestly sized women's rally in Kabul, Afghanistan. From "Afghan women rally, turning men red-faced with anger", MSNBC:

KABUL – In any other country, the sight of a group of women holding colorful placards, marching and protesting is commonplace.

But not in Afghanistan.

In fact, a women’s protest on the streets of Kabul on Thursday was the first of its kind.

On a hot, muggy day, about 30 women of all ages mustered up the courage to speak up against the age-old indignity of sexual harassment by men.

With banners that read "This street also belongs to me" and "We won't stand insults anymore,” they marched with a confident stride from Kabul University to the Afghan Human Rights Institute.

Women in Afghanistan face intimidation and sexual assault on a daily basis. In the most extreme cases, schoolgirls have been terrorized by men throwing acid at them as they walked to school.

The United Nations Population Fund in Afghanistan (UNFPA) says that about 31 percent of Afghan women suffer physical violence and another 30 percent suffer from psychological trauma.

...

Still, today in Afghanistan, a staggering 87 percent of Afghan women are illiterate and the average life expectancy for women is just 44 years, according to the CIA World Factbook.

What the article fails to disclose is the precise reason as to why women in Afghanistan are in such dire straits to begin with. Why are women in Afghanistan abused and illiterate? Why do they constantly face intimidation, thuggery, and sexual assault? Why are the men 'red-faced with anger' when they see even a small group of women involved in a public demonstration? Why does the rally require the presence of armed guards (as seen in the article's photos) in order to proceed? Why are the lives of these women, to borrow a piece of prose, so nasty, brutish and short? If you're wondering why, this mainstream media piece is typically mum in regards to the answer. The word 'Islam' is in fact never mentioned by Mr. Rich in his article, not once.

And this is 2011. It has been nearly ten years since the United States began its massive intervention in that land, cursed as it is by a perniciously pious strain of Islam to backwardness, brutality, and poverty. The US-backed and funded Afghan government and constitution enshrine Sharia as the central source of legislation, a source that forever deems women as the inferior and chattel of men. That couldn't possibly have anything to do with the ongoing and savage oppression of women in Afghanistan, could it?

Despite the expenditure of many billions of dollars, and the lives of thousands of brave American soldiers, Islam still oppresses the women of Afghanistan in ways that most Americans cannot acknowledge or comprehend. The mainstream media isn't helping. Articles like this 'World Blog' piece are written by journalists who plainly fail to understand, or refuse to understand, the world they purport to cover, and in so doing, perform a vast disservice for everyone. 

The continuing refusal of not just the American media, but also the US Government to acknowledge Islam's central role in oppressing the women (and homosexuals, apostates, non Muslims, etc.) of not just Afghanistan, but all Muslim countries, is flabbergasting as it is inexcusable.
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We can hope the little steam engine gathers steam and builds up speed...

I live this article.

Especially the way it ironically covered no new information about oppression in Afghanistan, but has intellectually used this unenthusiastic old understanding of Sharia to educate and expose all those "good people do-nothing" bunch of politicians and their media cohorts.

These are self-destroyers, who in their low perception of development and the meaning of America Independence, would rather speak or write pages - to be notice by the poor society they live in – than call the spade a sword - in Islam.

Shame on them.

Are any of these gals still alive this evening? That movie "Stoning of Soraya M" keeps running through my mind.

These brave women deserve the support of the rest of the world. But will they get it?

"men red-faced with anger"
Demonised pigs.

Well, I read this article on yahoo a few days ago. And I was just fine with it until the organizer of the protest, Noor Akbar, 19, said the following:

"...said that she had been criticized for "importing an idea from the West," but said in fact women's freedom had its roots in Islam.

"Women's safety is not a western idea, even in the time of Prophet Mohammed, women were safe, they could do trade, they could go out, and that's what we deserve," she said."

Right, that's where this organizer lost me. I'm sick of lies about Islam and Mo from Muslims, including oppressed Muslim females.

"...said that she had been criticized for "importing an idea from the West," but said in fact women's freedom had its roots in Islam." - Noor Akbar, protest organizer

Right, that's where this organizer lost me. I'm sick of lies about Islam and Mo from Muslims, including from oppressed Muslim females.

Make a comparison between Islamic culture and Modernity. Look at our Modern world even more that 200 years ago and see our technology and our good principles: Unlike Muslims who to this day are so savage and stupid they chop off people's heads with swords-- if they're sophisticated to that point, and if not, they stoop to pick up rocks to throw at women-- and compare our most primitive Modernist technology, the guillotine. Even at the height of our worst behaviour, which I think is pretty good even today, we had the sense and decency to behead criminals, and perhaps others, quickly, efficiently, and more or less humanely by machine.

I picked the most outrageous comparison I could think of to illustrate the difference between the Modern and the Islamic worlds. Even at our seeming worst we are so far ahead of the barbarians living today in the early Middle Ages that one must ask what is the appeal in Islam? What does the average American like about Islam? What is there to like about a culture that cuts off a man's head with a sword or that throws rocks at a woman's face until she's killed? What is to like in that?

Bring back Mr. Ellis.

"What is to like in that?"

Sociopaths like those things.

I really feel for these (probably a minority) of women who truly are sick of the lunacy, indignity and misery of islam but I am afraid these few will not be able to affect any meaningful change in their circumstances, not in this lifetime anyway. What a shame, I am so thankful that I am not in their position. What else is there to say?

You are right. While I feel sorry for these women, it seems they still don't get it. Islam is the problem. The problem is Islam.

"I'm sick of lies about Islam and Mo from Muslims, including from oppressed Muslim females."

Bear in mind that this young woman has been lied to and brought up on lies. She has a long way to go yet. Who knows, she may yet be another Nonie Darwish or Wafa Sultan. She is 19...

Yes, too often in translation also, meaning is not maintained, and when it is, it is with the blinders on of brainwashed muslim thought, as though no other civilization or society in the world has ever existed, nor contributed anything toward civilization's progress towards a more gentle and understanding and fair and just balance of personal and societal freedom, to be.

I haven't studied well the thought, but wouldn't be surprized if women's tendency to societal independence and respect had its roots in Judaism, before Christianity, and with no contribution from mislam.

As the "final religion", it fixes permanently, and theoretically and mythically, 4 wives, slaves(sex and others), one night stands, beatings, women's standing as a strictly less valuable possession (like a prized car, camel, falcon, etc.), etc. as ethical, moral, and of course legal, regards women of islam under sharia. Other sociesties through history had various degrees of better and worse treatment of women throughout history.

But time tended to make changes, for progress, over historical customs, under the loosely encouraged Judeo Christianity, for betterment of women's respectable treatment or equality, among many matters.

Of course, in mislam no change can ever occur, realistically, on force of death. Not ever!

Consequently, since the males have quite a nice deal (their union clause) over women, in theory, they'll fight like hell to keep the religion (not), like they were a massive union, in cahoots with the mafia, sound familiar?

Memory was along came U. S. Government, RICO, and reformation occurred. No more really bad union, although, not so sure all is so good with it.

The hard core and less literate muslim women seem to have very little comprehension of their lot in their life, relative to the much larger outside world, that the hard core know so very little of.

Even the majority of men of the islam spring demonstrated they know nearly nothing of society and civiiization of mankind. Their concept of freedom is inconceivably flawed and primitive.

Most think only in reference of islam, not larger concepts, thus wearing their own giant blinders. See the news reports and trends, and the PEW survey, to see the veracity of that remark.

The mental chains of islamic enslavement are strong and very encompassing, of so much of their lives, as permanently dedicated slaves to a mindless dead idolater's stone.

Yes, sociopaths might like throwing rocks at people and killing them by doing so, and they might get a kick out of using a sword to cut off a man's head while the crowd admires the show; but reality is that we in the Modern world have probably millions who support this kind of savage culture and defend it against out own. Why? Why would teenage undergraduates studying anthropology or wymins studies or (wtf ever) find anything about the savages attractive, even if they hate our Modernity, which they stupidly claim to do? Not all of these idiots are sociopaths. A few, maybe, but the millions who show up across the Western world to support HAMAS and Hezballah et al, what is the attraction?

Really, we have to bring back Mr. Ellis.

MacWalker,

Who is Mr. Ellis? Does he have anything in common with Mr. Martel or Mr. Sobieski?

Hope you're well, Sir.

- MacUalraig

This is true of muslims around the world. Muslims are "illiterate" in Islam. I will give you an example to showcase the average knowledge of the muslim:

Islam has 6 foundational text:

1) Quran - in 3 parts. Part 1 Khadija Quran 610AD to 623AD; Part 2 Mohammed Quran 623AD to 631 AD and final Part 3 Quran represented by Surah 5 and Surah 9. Most Muslims are aware of the Quran but not aware that approximately 70 Surah's were part of Khadija Quran ie existed before the age of Islam (begun in 623AD).
2) Sirat - or biography of Mohammed. Muslims are generally aware of this BUT do not know that the original was written in late 8th century (150 years after the death of Mohammed).
3) Sahih Hadiths - primarily of Bukhari and Muslims written around early to mid 9th Century. Majority of muslims are aware of hadiths BUT do not know that no hadith writer ever met any companion of Mohammed or their children or their children or their children.
4) Tarikh of Tabari - written early 10th Century. Is just hadiths arranged in chronology. Most muslims are unaware of this even though it is used widely to determine event based rulings of sharia.
5) Sharia books of Imam Shafi, Hanbali, Malik and Hanafi are finalised in late 8th to mid 10th century. Muslims are unaware of this is so far that none of these Imams were companions of MOhammed or knew any companion of Mohammed.
6) Tafseer - explanation of the Quran. Most muslims are aware of these BUT do not know that all these tafseers are post 9th Century explanations.

I give this example to highlight that well in excess of 85% of muslims are not aware of their religion. THIS is a good thing as they are bad muslims which makes them good human beings.

To Mr. R.K.MacUalraig.


Oh, Mister Ellis!

It tells too much about me, I think, but here it is:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,858656,00.html

My best to you, sir.

I hope this motto appeals to you, especially in this context:

"_Avise la fin_."

("Consider the end.")

Brilliant, Sir. Yes, it is a motto I'm familiar with. I have a big buckle with that badge on it, to hold up my kilt in the winter.

Indeed, I try to picture our success in this battle for all we hold dear, EVERYDAY.

A very inspiring response, thank-you!!

Respectfully,

Mac

They used to call us "red legs" because of kilts in winter. Good for us. Jihadis don't stand a chance against such men. Victory is certainly ours.

My best regards to you,

Dag.

The delusion of the campus?

Western universities have courses on queer studies, womens studies, black studies, black womens studies, black queer womens studies and no doubt if you looked hard enough, the value of the yurt to one legged Mongolian goat herder studies. Nothing, no matter how outre or useless in the pursuit of an education which leads to, gasp, a job is off bounds.

These pampered sons and daughters of sixties radicalism enjoy a freedom unheard of east of Suez. They are free to enjoy the lifestyles of renaissance dilletantes or latter day Byrons because of one thing and that's democracy.

Meanwhile thousands of miles east yet in reality, light years away in terms of rights and progress, women are fighting against a religion which denies even the basic right to go out alone uncovered. Or have an education. Or marry who they choose. Or have equal inheritance rights. Or equal divorce rights.

We all know the list, and it's as long as your arm.

That's the yawning gap, yet these self same western academic gadflies will defend this creed and its suffocating ways with accusation of islamophobia against anyone who has the temerity to point these obvious contradictions out.

Can't they see the outrageous anomolies they so love to defend? Are they so inured from the reality of the real world that they are doomed to live as turkeys voting for Christmas useful idiots forever?

In the eyes of the rational these people have zero logical credibility yet are feted within the left leaning milieu as the vanguard which will bring a kind of utopian one world peace to this riven planet.

The real question should be, what planet do these intellectual cretins inhabit?

I always like compare Christianity with islam. In the begining periods of it women in that religion had many rights that society did not give them islam on the other hand would rip any kind of dignity or freedom shopper compare what makes more sense for a religion of peace.

"Right, that's where this organizer lost me. I'm sick of lies about Islam and Mo from Muslims, including from oppressed Muslim females."

That's what I've been saying for years. These "oppressed" twits NEVER have my sympathy or support because they are willing enablers and perpetuators of their own oppression.

"In the prophet's time...blah, blah, blah"

No, BEFORE the prophet's time women were allowed freedom. Khadija comes to mind. Wealthy female, not buried alive when she was born. It was AFTER mo that arsehole started spouting his unholy "revelations" that women's rights took a downward spiral into absurdity and repression.

"That's what I've been saying for years. These "oppressed" twits NEVER have my sympathy or support because they are willing enablers and perpetuators of their own oppression.

"In the prophet's time...blah, blah, blah"

Yes, and everything else you said, Istanbul Chick.

I really don't feel sorry for them anymore.

Oh brave men of Afghanistan, banish these misguided women fom your beds and if they do not reform their wicked ways....... beat them (lightly)

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