Pakistan: Muslim murders six daughters in honor killing

"He does not regret what he did. He boasted that he would do it all over again if he had to."

It is no accident or coincidence that Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. A manual of Islamic law certified as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy by Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, says that "retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right." However, "not subject to retaliation" is "a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring." ('Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law.

Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but "the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour 'provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.'" And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that "Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values."

Nonetheless, the media drumbeat is constant: honor killings have nothing to do with Islam. And as long as that continues, we will see more and more murders like this one.

Honour killings: Man guns down six daughters," from The Express Tribune, July 27:

A man gunned down six of his daughters on suspicion that two of them were in relationships with boys in the neighbourhood.

On Tuesday morning, Arif Mubashir called his teenage daughters to his room and shot them while the rest of the family, including their mother, watched. His wife Musarrat called the police after the incident.

Mubashir shot the girls after their brother said two of them were in a relationship. He told police officials that he had killed his daughters because they were both “without honour”. The man said his daughters Sameena, 14, and Razia, 16, were in a relationship with college boys from the neighbourhood and the sisters had helped each other. “I should have been told immediately but the girls sided with each other. They were both corrupt,” Mubashir told Tandlianwala Police Inspector Javed Sial.

Police officials have taken Mubashir into custody and filed a case against him. “He does not regret what he did. He boasted that he would do it all over again if he had to,” Sial told reporters.

Pakistan has repeatedly been termed as one of the least women-friendly countries. In June, the Thompson Reuters Foundation ranked Pakistan as the world’s third most dangerous country for women.

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So 2 were "guilty" but 6 were murdered! Typical of Islamic thinking and morals. I guess girls even your own daughters must be annihilated when Allah calls for human sacrifice. what a monsterous religion.

That's what Islam is about - to use women/girls like animals, only good enough for sex, for rape, for murder and for breeding, in order to produce as many Muslim male savages as they can, so they can terrorize the world! Only the Devil can be the god of the RACIST Arabic Pedophile predatory rapist, robber, slave-owner (including sexual slaves such as young Jewish captive girls), and mass murderer of the Jews, Mohammed, the creator of Islam!

Pakistan: Muslim murders six daughters in honor killing

"He does not regret what he did. He boasted that he would do it all over again if he had to."
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God, I hate Islam.

A man gunned down six of his daughters on suspicion that two of them were in relationships with boys in the neighbourhood.
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I guess he murdered his other four daughters because he "feared disobedience from them" (infamously, this is the basis on which a Muslim may beat his wife).

More:

Mubashir shot the girls after their brother said two of them were in a relationship.
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I don't know exactly what the brother's intentions were in telling his homicidal father, of course. But this is all too common—where brothers and other younger males in a Muslim family are set as guardians to their sister's "morals"—and are, in fact, often used rather than older male family members to murder the girls.

More:

Pakistan has repeatedly been termed as one of the least women-friendly countries. In June, the Thompson Reuters Foundation ranked Pakistan as the world’s third most dangerous country for women.
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Except for the Congo—which is still in the grip of a vicious civil war and now has an entrenched 'culture' of rape—all the other "top" countries in this group are Muslim.

"the laws against(honour killing) would destroy families" - these demonworshippers (there is no doubt alla is a demon) have no problem mowing down their daughters with bullets, the whole family being complicit even the "mother"? Is this their idea of family togetherness? Apparently so.

This barbaric horrific mindset is what these savages bring with them to live amongst us. mind bogglingly insane!

Muslims follow the example of their perfect man cult leaders. They have no morals and they cannot distinguish between right and wrong, good and evil. In fact their definitions of right, wrong, good, evil, morality immorality are totally reversed and they do all those atrocious acts without any remorse. They don't think they are doing any wrong since their acts follow the example of their perfect man. What a weird logic that leads to their barbaric behavior.

I'm not so sure. I think many (who knows how many? hard to tell) Muslims know instinctively the difference between right and wrong, and are simply in denial about their "prophet" and the Koranic verses of cruelty.
When I say "simply", I am aware that it takes a lot of brainwashing to get to that level of denial.

Mom just watched while her six daughters were gunned down?
Probably the four innocent ones knew about the other two and were deemed to share their guilt. (Didn't that happen elsewhere?) How about Mom? Apparently the maternal instinct doesn't trump Islam. She just stood there.

Allow me to echo gravenimage: God, I hate Islam.

And as you know PJG that brainwashing of hate begins in the cradles of their newborns.

Islam has ALWAYS been anti-female and Mohammad did NOT improve conditions for females in Saudi Arabia.

I wonder if the alleged "boyfriends" were pious Muslims...they apparently haven't complained to anyone.

I guess I feel a profound sadness that more Muslim women who show a bit of independence and intelligence are killed by their own families.

Without wishing Muslims harm in the least, I sincerely hope the US will enact legislation to block further Muslim immigration. They will hopefully learn to respect their own families in their own countries. I would have little objection to giving sanctuary to formerly-Muslim women who have seen the threat that Islam as a doctrine poses to them, and who have sincerely renounced Islam.

It's far easier to protect the women in our own society by maintaining strong borders than by chasing after rapists and other violent attackers of women after they have immigrated here.

Islam will certainly not take over the world...thats for sure.
They kill too many of their offspring to survive.

According to a recent post and citation, an islam parent, either one, may murder any offspring, down line at least through grand children, without punishment from allah or islam, presumably with imaginary cause, of course. sarc/off According to what I've read elswhere, the apparent principle is if you created them, you have unlimited rights over them, in effect. If you made 'em, you can unmake 'em! At least re: there lives. Sounds logical to illiterates, right? sarc/off And helps explain recent saudi fatwa for unlimited pedophilea, too. No need for sarc here, just barf bag.

Its Robert's fault!

News at 11...

Just spotted a generally impecable analysis of History and Islam, and the West, titled "A Clash of Histories". By Dan Greenfield, on Rightsidenews, at Europe news today:

http://europenews.dk/en/node/45778

or directly at:

http://www.rightsidenews.com/2011072814149/editorial/rsn-pick-of-the-day/a-clash-of-histories.html

An excerpt goes:

"Working societies are built on a hope for the future. Islam has no hope for the future. It may use modern tools, but it never values them, let alone the gifts and sciences that brought them into being. Its gaze is hopelessly dingy, rimmed with disgust for anything that is less than perfect. The tools are inferior copies of what the Koran makes possible. The societies are corrupted and decadent. Even religion isn't right. Islam is striving, but always for the past.
Machiavelli is second nature to Muslims, but only as practice, not as understanding. Deceit is constant and the most overly complex plans are drawn up all the time. Everyone is practiced at manipulating everyone else and accordingly there is no real trust outside the family. And little trust even inside it. And all of this only goes to reinforce the essential Islamic message of human worthlessness. None of it is used to usher in reforms, because Islamic polarity views reforms as black and white. Driving out one group and putting the perfect people into power. Leader worship leads to disappointment, uprisings and a new leader to worship. The cycle repeats itself over and over again.
European expectations of Muslim integration were flawed from the start. Muslims may identify with countries, but their pessimistic worldview was never compatible with Western democracy. They lack the faith in humanity that is essential to the republican experiment. And instead became easy prey for itinerant preachers recording venomous sermons promising them a new bloody golden age, awful in its perfection.
Rather than identifying with their new countries, Muslim immigrants instead decided to replace them. To remake them into the same Caliphate mirage under the guardianship of quarreling clerics and greedy uniformed thugs. And no amount of visits to mosques and Ramadan dinners thrown by Western leaders will change that. It only accelerates the process.
The Western fallacy is the failure to understand that there is no meeting point with Islam. That its numbers are large enough and its ambitions serious enough that it cannot be ignored, and that its orientation is so fundamentally different that it cannot be reconciled at any cost. Multiculturalism assumes that harmony can come by paying enough attention and respect to every culture. But tolerance and co-existence, the assumptions that lie at the heart of multiculturalism, are alien to the purity that is at the heart of Islam."

JW looks global, and globally 91 % of honor killings are done by Muslims. In Holland and I suppose in the UK, US + other Western countries, there now at least is a concerted effort to (re)act against domestic violence, human trafficking and honour killings.

But what irks me is that in the policy the so-called experts, Dutch and others, assert that Islam has got nothing to do with it. They explain that honour killing ALSO occurs in Ethiopia and Brazil and India, among other cultures. And that there are many Muslims who don't do it. And after that they tend to look only national, which gives Muslims the advantage of being looked upon as a minority, which must be protected, respected and not hurt in its feelings. Lest these Muslims do not radicalize.

As a result a fair proportion of the personnel fighting honour killing in Holland is Muslim! I still can't wrap my head around it wholly; how is that possible?

My reasoning would be different; I can see that comparing cultures can be useful and satisfying the need to be just and use single standards, but I reject the Tu Quoque-reasoning. Which exonerates a group of perpetrators by just pointing to other perpetrators.

No, I would like to reason from the perspective of the victims and potential victims, which we should identify well. And from that perspective we should ask; Is the influence of Islam on Muslims good, bad or neutral? and I think there are mountains of proof of its bad influence, only little evidence of any good influence. And that it is prejudice to consider all religions somehow mysteriously varied and neutral.

So I think that the experts who rule in official Dutch policy that Islam has nothing to do with honour killing, are neglecting the paramount interest of the current victims. They are failing them in important aspects.

And they are failing especially the potential victims, because they refuse to do something about a very important cause of honour killings; Islam. And they do it because they want to respect and spare the feelings of Muslims. But I reckon that the interest of (potential) victims who are very physically hurt, trumps the interest of Muslims, who are only hurt in their feelings.

"As a result a fair proportion of the personnel fighting honour killing in Holland is Muslim! I still can't wrap my head around it wholly; how is that possible?"

I will accept any ally in the fight against domestic violence against women. The problem is not that every Muslim is abusive, but that a higher proportion of Muslims are abusive, and that their cultural milieu provides no means for addressing or recognizing the problem.

The famous "Medina Constitution", created by Muhammad soon after his arrival to that city, says it all. The only reference to women in the entire document says that "Protection is only to be extended to women with the permission of their families." In other words, without the permission of the male members of her family, no protection is offered to women in Islam.

J not A wrote:

"the laws against(honour killing) would destroy families" - these demonworshippers (there is no doubt alla is a demon) have no problem mowing down their daughters with bullets, the whole family being complicit even the "mother"? Is this their idea of family togetherness? Apparently so.
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Very important point, J not A. When Muslims talk about "Islamic family values", *this* is part of what they mean. Along with wife beating, the "triple Talaq", forced child marriage, and other evils...

Good answer, thanks, RonaldB.

I like your posts. And know that you've been on Loonwatch and you did very well there, too. I hope we are largely 2 of a kind.

My new-found idea is that we evolve to asking from the Muslims to rectify the situation that they now belong to an organisation, Islam, that is proven to be either:
Hostile, loyal to enemies in a global sense, with clearly anti-democratic laws or:
Irresponsibly, unacceptably vaque, ambiguous, prone and vulnerable to misunderstanding and misuse. In the form of anti-democratic and oppressive and violent interpretation by Muslims themselves, detrimental for many victims, non-Muslims and women.

While at the same time there is no mechanism to either throw out misunderstanders/ misusers or to secede from them into a different organisation. With clear negotiable, updatable doctrine and conditions upon membership.

We should demand such a new organisation from Muslims, if only to get more citizens, media, politicians who are now still PCMC to our side.

When a majority supports this demand then it should be told to employees of the government working to combat honour killings that they cannot be member of old Islam and keep their job.

And of course members of old Islam can then be discriminated against at the borders. And so your fervent wish, stopping the immigration of Muslims, can in a sense be accomplished. And New Muslims can be held accountable, monitored and trusted more than old Muslims.

This man had at least six daughters (the phrasing 'six *of* his daughters) implies he had more: perhaps a few who have been married off already, or who are small.

He has now killed *six* nubile girls.

That represents six young women removed from the pool of potential brides for young men in the district.

Given that about even numbers of boys and girls are born in any human society, deliberately killing off your nubile young females, as happens repeatedly with 'honor' murders, is plain STUPID.

It ensures that there will be a 'woman drought'. (Which is compounded, of course, by Muslim polygyny; a few men 'cornering' the surviving women).

And then there's the contempt for girl babies. Muslims routinely trot out the claim that Islam forbade the exposure of baby girls...but actual practice in Mohammedan countries, the attitude of contempt for females as dirty, lesser creatures, leads to neglect and abuse of little girls. I would BET that there is much higher infant mortality among baby girls and little girls, than among their brothers, even in these societies where the infant mortality generally is already very high.

See this story from Afghanistan, and what happens to the newborn baby girl and her mother:


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-26/afghanistan-dangers-of-childbirth/28
Birth a deadly challenge in Afghanistan

"Midwives slap Benafsha [the labouring mother - dda] on her pregnant belly to speed up the contractions. If Australian midwives did the same, they would be stood down and could even face criminal charges.

"The baby looks deathly white and motionless when it emerges. The midwife cuts the cord and rushes down the corridor, carrying the newborn girl face down along her arm.

"When the nurse reached the neo-natal ward, the doctors take over. They use a suction tube and a foot pump to try and open the baby's airway.

"The baby has swallowed faeces or meconium during the traumatic delivery and now has severe asphyxia.

"It is many more minutes before the baby finally coughs out her first cry.
Her skin colour starts to change from white to blotchy pink. Her arms and legs begin to move. She weighs in at four kilograms, a big baby for Afghanistan. The doctors are relieved for now.
"She is very beautiful," Benafsha said.
Fathers are not allowed inside the hospital so the guard at the front gate announces that Benafsha's baby has arrived.

"In the baby's first minute of life, she was given only two out of 10 on what is known as the APGAR score of newborn health.

"In Australia, a baby in this condition could be sent to intensive care.

"**But only three-and-a-half hours after she is born, her father orders the baby and Benafsha to be discharged because he does not want to wait anymore.** {my emphasis - dda: in other words, he doesn't give a stuff about his new daughter and probably wouldn't care two bits if she died}.

'No-one cares about them'

'Neonatal doctor Noor Zia Sharifi is worried the baby could die of infection or have some brain damage from the asphyxia.

**"If the newborn is a girl, they don't pay much attention to her," he said.
"They won't let the mother and baby stay in hospital for a few days so we can take care of them.** [my emphasis - dda}.

"But if the newborn is a boy the relatives touch the feet and hands of the doctors, begging for us to keep the baby boy in hospital. They want us to give him the best treatment."

Stupid woman-hating bastards. Don't they realize that when the baby boys grow up they will want wives? Where is the boy to get a wife, if the baby girls born at the same time as him, are destroyed by the deliberate, contemptuous neglect of their parents (especially their male kin)...or killed off in 'honor' murders if they manage to survive abuse and neglect during their childhoods?

The Ummah deliberately kills off its own women and girls by all kinds of methods...and then proceeds to make up the gap by *stealing* the women and girls from the dhimmi populations, or from neighbouring, saner societies. If they were prevented from doing this, and forced to rely entirely on their own devices, I strongly suspect their populations would, ultimately, plummet, as they killed off more and more of their females, whether as babies or as nubile girls sacrificed to 'allah' in the de facto human sacrifice ritual that is the Islamic 'honor' murder.

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