Does Daniel Fiol think that the 9/11 attacks were a crime against humanity? Did he file a complaint with the ICC about them? I would expect not. This is just more of the hard Left's moral myopia -- and ironically directed at a man who has drastically misdiagnosed the problem of jihad and apparently thinks that if he goes after al-Qaeda but allows the jihad to advance on every other front, all will be well.
"Barack Obama accused of crimes against humanity for Osama bin Laden killing," from the Telegraph, July 17 (thanks to Weasel Zippers):
A Spanish lawyer has formally accused Barack Obama of crimes against humanity for ordering the assassination of Osama bin Laden.Daniel Fiol lodged a written complaint at the International Criminal Court accusing the US president of breaching the Geneva Convention.
Navy Seals acting on Mr Obama's orders shot the al-Qaeda leader dead on May 2 after storming his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.
In his written complaint, the Majorca-based lawyer said bin Laden should have been "pursued, arrested, tried and convicted" on behalf of "the victims of some terrible and appalling atrocities". The killing of bin Laden was even worse as it took place in foreign territory, Pakistan, without the permission of that government, he said.
...which is a blot on Pakistan's record.
"I am not being paid by al-Qaeda," Mr Fiol joked....
No, but you might as well be.
And we are surprised.....why exactly????
Another POS ignoramus, plain and simple.
Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.
Well, Danny boy, La... Di... Da!!!!
Think back on your country's history with mislam!
And on further reflection, Danny, if you want Barry, you can have him. Please, take him.
Maybe we can get our economy back on a good jobs track with him gone!
Sorry, Danny's whole contention is so ludicrous, in view of 911 and pakistan's complicity and duplicity, it begs such a response, IMHO.
I have had a close relationship with Spain in the past.
What I discovered, very troubling was their immeasurable ignorance and hatred of everything that have to do with English speaking societies.
For the reader's info: The most tiring work a Spaniard would like to be caught doing is, deeply reading a News paper to advance knowledge on happenings - outside of Spain.
Let me be short for the sake of space and time. And to make the illiterate Spanish Lawyr, Daniel Foil, fool - or Fiol negligible, I honestly implore all Freedom Fighters to continue in the struggle.
If there were enough "wise people" - especially in Europe and the US, before and after Independence, Islam wouldn't have gotten the first chance of Its today's Bid - to turn the White House into an “occult Kaabar” of Mecca.
What a total pillock.
I think we should be thankful to this Daniel Fiol for demonstrating to us what a potentially harmful institution the ICC is.
The US has not yet ratified its founding treaty and with a bit of luck, this little stunt will make sure it never does.
This is probably a legal practitioner who isn't getting much work and somebody is prepared to pay him, plus a way of trying to make his name - probably backfire when the ICC laughs him out of court?
Frankly I think this has more to do with Spain being accused of the Deadly E-Coli outbreak in Germany....
Spain is trying to embarrass Obama as the E-coli was a manufactured bug made by Monsanto...Spain was first to be accused of this outbreak...it hurt them financially as countries refused to import their produce due to being scared it was contaminated!
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/new_world_order/...
Sovereignty is violable where harborage obstructs justice. Of course, Obama would hardly admit that his Paki pals knew of bin Laden's presence 1000 feet from Pakistan's "West point."
Spain is upset because the US takes out bin Laden? What business is it of theirs anyway? bin Laden used to go on TV to brag about the attack on the twin towers and we're supposed to sit idly by and let him get away with it? Just shows what idiots the international court is anyway. They should have no jurisdiction over the US anyway. We see justice turned upside down when we read nonsense like this. Bin Laden convicted himself with his own mouth, the only question is why it took so long and how could he live where he did w/o the Pakistani authorities knowing where he was. The action that took him out should be used every time a hand is laid on an American citizen.
"I am not being paid by al-Qaeda," Mr Fiol joked....
Seeking revenge for the just and legal killing of a mass murderer is reason for levity?
Only to a sociopath.
Ooooooh, the Schadenfreude! I have to chuckle when I think of how many American Leftists so admire these socialist European lawyers and their stand for international law, even to the point where the CIA people who helped locate Usama Bin Laden aren't quite off the hook with Eric Holder.
Now that her husband's in trouble with a Spanish court, will Michelle Obama take her daughters for a nother vacation in Spain?
But, don't worry, folks. A little bird told me that Daniel Fiol's next order of business is to fly to Sudan and personally hand Omar Bashir and Hasan al-Turabi their summonses. He plans to do the same with Mullah Omar and Bump-Brow Ayman, too. Kimm Jong-il's also on his list.
"I think we should be thankful to this Daniel Fiol for demonstrating to us what a potentially harmful institution the ICC is."
Vagn,
I agree with you completely. Any country that subjects itself to an outside jurisdiction runs the risk of being second-guessed when it acts to protect its vital interests. Worse, non-elected bodies such as the EU are subject to capture by ideologues who use their positions of power to advance their ideological agendas.
Don't be so silly, Danny Boy: Obama didn't make that decision. That was too hard for him.
Hillary and Leon made that one. Val and Barry were too busy equivocating and fighting it and figuring out a really great political angle once they realized where he was.
Ha ha... this'll be an interesting one to watch.
I wonder if the MSM will give it much coverage beyond the initial laugh-out-loud stage...
"Obama didn't make that decision. That was too hard for him."
As Commander in Chief Obama is the only one who can make a decision til kill a suspect leader of a terrorist group who by his own admission planned, and let his followers carry out a number of very serious crimes against humanity.
I am sure Adolf Hitler, had he not committed suicide, would have been found guilty of genocide and other serious crimes as the supreme leader and dictator of The Third Reich, even if it could not be proven at court, that he himself personally and explicitly gave the order to solve 'the Jewish problem' by means of systematic genocide. The paper trail ends at Heinrich Himmler and Herman Göring, but the fatal decisions at the Wannsee Conference could not have been taken or implemented without the implicit knowledge and accept of Der Fuhrer. So Hitler would have been hanged for this crime and several other serious crimes.
All American presidents have a visible or invisible sign on their desk saying: The Buck Stops Here. President truman was the only President who actually put such a sign on his desk at The White House. The sign was made and mailed to the President on October 2, 1945.
The saying "the buck stops here" derives from the slang expression "pass the buck" which means passing the responsibility on to someone else. The latter expression is said to have originated with the game of poker, in which a marker or counter, frequently in frontier days a knife with a buckhorn handle, was used to indicate the person whose turn it was to deal. If the player did not wish to deal he could pass the responsibility by passing the "buck," as the counter came to be called, to the next player.
On more than one occasion President Truman referred to the desk sign in public statements. For example, in an address at the National War College on December 19, 1952 Mr. Truman said, "You know, it's easy for the Monday morning quarterback to say what the coach should have done, after the game is over. But when the decision is up before you -- and on my desk I have a motto which says The Buck Stops Here' -- the decision has to be made." In his farewell address to the American people given in January 1953, President Truman referred to this concept very specifically in asserting that, "The President--whoever he is--has to decide. He can't pass the buck to anybody. No one else can do the deciding for him. That's his job.
So if a war crime was committed by Obama's order to apprehend or kill Osama bin Laden Obama then everybody in the chain of command down to the soldier who pulled the trigger and actually killed the leader of Al Qaeda is legally responsible, as per the the Nuremberg principle.
As a good democrat with respect for due process of law I will of course consider Obama innocent until he is proven guilty.
The burden of proof is on the prosecution, which has to collect and present enough compelling evidence to convince the trier of fact, who is restrained and ordered by law to consider only actual evidence and testimony that is legally admissible, and in most cases lawfully obtained, that the accused is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In case of remaining doubts, the accused is to be acquitted.
Everybody can file a complaint to the ICC, even a Spanish judge, if he suspects that a person has committed war crimes or crimes against humanity. That is how the system works. But have no fear. As long as the member states of the African Union does not hand over the president of Sudan or the Libyan president both indicted for crimes against humanity by the ICC, the system is not working. The system does especially not work in the U.S. because the country is not a signatory state to ICC, so impeachment of Obama is the only possibility. Maybe the Tea Party movement can add crimes against humanity to the impeachment case they are building against the President? Who knows? ;-)
It is a federal crime under U.S. law to "interfere with a Federal officer". Whenever people like Daniel Foil pull this baloney they should be promptly indicted by a federal grand jury on this charge, and a request for extradition should be drawn up. Has Daniel Foil ever heard of Roman Polanski?
Maybe this will curtail BHO's foreign travels. If he faced an arrest warrant as soon as he stepped off Air Force 1 in a foreign land, he might stay at home. Think of the savings of our tax dollars!
This might also cure the Left of its love for all sorts of treaties limiting Amrican sovereignty, and for the citing of foreign laws in American court cases.
Master Fiol's complaint should also cite the Secretary of Defense (and possibly the Secretary of State), and whatever under-secretaries, chiefs of staff, and admirals and generals were in on the plan. They're just as "guilty" as BHO. Under the rules of war, an unlawful command must be refused. Obeying it makes the soldier just as guilty as the one who issued the command.
I detest obama and I'll be overjoyed to see him convicted of this even though I hate Osama more.
I wonder if this will cool the American Left's ardor for making US soldiers subject to the whims of the International Criminal Court?
Hey you Lefties! How do ya like the way those shoes fit now?
I can't quite follow this charge.
For there to have been a crime against humanity, doesn't there have to be evidence that a human being was killed?
I think this lawyer is not going to be able to prove that in court.
Case dismissed!
It appears that Mr Daniel Fiol has forgotten Madrid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Madrid_train_bombings
The Madrid train bombings consisted of a series of coordinated bombings against the Cercanías (commuter train) system of Madrid, Spain on the morning of 11 March 2004 (three days before Spain's general elections), killing 191 people and wounding 1,800.
The official investigation by the Spanish Judiciary determined the attacks were directed by an al-Qaeda-inspired terrorist cell although no direct al-Qaeda participation (only "inspiration") has been established.
All sensible Spanish non-Muslims - and especially those who were among the 1,800 wounded in March 2004, and those whose loved ones were killed - should have been quietly toasting the US Navy SEALs, the moment the news broke that Osama Bin Laden was no more.