Statement from SIOA and SIOE on Norway murders

Is Wilders now back on the hook? Will he be forced to step forward and give a full public explanation of Breivik's actions? Taking the stand in the Court of Public Opinion will be a lot tougher than the court he just got run through.

The Muslims and dhimmis will milk this crime for all its worth to discredit ALL counterjihadists for merely trying to ensure a future for their children.

Finally, the liberal global media has their second Timothy McVeigh example, and it only took 16 years.

The liberal media will undoubtably continue to label this evil, anti-government lunatic a "Christian conservative", as they also erroneously did with McVeigh. Liberals are cock-sure about this false correlation, with this coming from a group-think that is still wholly unconvinced of the correlation between violence and Islam even with over 17,000 concrete examples of it to date since 9/11/2001.

The worst part is the media's intentional smearing of the righteous messengers of the historically fundamental problem with Islam as it relates to all things and persons non-Islamic and the manifest problems that usually occur when large groups of Muslims assemble in a traditionally non-Muslim area or country.

What is disingenuous and illogical is that as invalid as Breivik's actions are, and they are to the greatest degree, it does nothing to off-set the valid concerns of those who report on the consistent and increasing problem of Muslim immigration into non-western society.

As forced as this media-driven correlation between Breivik and the SIOA and SIOE is, it is entirely false.

The Liberals are having about 50 field days in one.

The Liberals on the Liberal Miami Herald are even more vile and vicious and evil in their comments than usual. And the Muslims have no compunction in saying "We will be taking over."

It's obvious to many observers that killing 80 white school children from fine ex-Judeo-Christian secularist families will trigger an uprising of self-defense against Moslem encroachment.

You can't argue with that. No. Really. You can't.

*** 33:21 ***

People in the Western world are reeling rat now. Me, I put Breivik's successful mass murder operation in third place in my cinematic reel, behind the debt ceiling "negotations" in second place and the scandal surrounding Cenk Uygur's firing in first.

To me it's a very disorientating thing when for a rock solid G.S.E.A.R.S. operation like MSNBC fires a born Moslem Moderate secularist with Ivy League credentials.

Breivik is an enemy of Western civilization, not a defender of it as he imagined. Breivik is not only evil, but also may be insane. In his manifesto he even considered cooperating with the Iranian regime, Al Qaeda, and other Islamic terrorist groups, and made other outlandish suggestions:

"Norway Killer Breivik Willing to Work with Al-Qaeda, Iran, Says Templars May Need to Kill Children and Cut Off Own Penis"
http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/186202/20110725/norway-killer-breivik-willing-to-work-with-al-qaeda-iran-says-templars-must-kill-children-and-cut-of.htm

I tracked down the quotes from Breivik's lengthy manifesto (which can now be downloaded from numerous sites):

"There might come a time when we, the PCCTS, Knights Templar will consider to use or even to work as a proxy for the enemies of our enemies. This might be an option if we feel that conventional approaches are fruitless or if the intelligence agencies/system protectors working for the Western European regimes successfully manage to neutralize our long term efforts to liberate our countries. "Under these circumstances, the PCCTS, Knights Templar will for the future consider working with the enemies of the EU/US hegemony such as Iran (South Korea is unlikely), al-Qaeda, al-Shabaab or the rest of the devout fractions of the Islamic Ummah with the intention for deployment of small nuclear, radiological, biological or chemical weapons in Western European capitals and other high priority locations."

And the suggestion about self-castration:

"The difference between an [CIA or EU] agent and a Justiciar Knight is that the latter will be willing to make a great sacrifice for the purpose of proper validation. Now what kind of sacrifice would be great enough to remove all doubt that the candidate is not a EU/US agent? A Justiciar Knight is willing to martyr himself for the cause while a EU/US agent will not be willing to sacrifice much. The entity should demand that the alleged Justiciar Knight in question surgically remove his penis and testicles and/or execute a fixed number of civilian children. While this requirement seems morbid, absurd and unreasonable, it is perhaps the most effective method of confirming the intentions of an individual. Because why would one of the sides part with a powerful weapon which worth exceeds perhaps 100 million Euros? The party would need to make 100% sure that the proxy is trustworthy. A government agent could and would never accept these terms to maintain his cover, but a true Justiciar Knight would willingly sacrifice everything for the cause, including committing smaller atrocities as long as it served the greater good of our cause. He would also be willing to part with these body parts in order to confirm his intent in this validation process. In any case, the entity would have to provide a surgical team to safely complete the operation without risk of loss of life for the Justiciar Knight."

The Islam-loving Socialist Left is equally evil to the Muslim fanatics/Islam - and I will keep on saying that (don't ever forget, Hitler was a Socialist no matter how much the Left wants us to forget that)!

At - http://europenews.dk/en/node/41655
NORWAY: SOCIALIST LEFT PARTY TO VOTE ON MOTION CALLING FOR BOMBING ISRAEL IF IT ACTS AGAINST HAMAS IN GAZA

Tundra Tabloids 29 March 2011

It’s come to this. The junior partner in the Norwegian government, the Socialist Left Party of Kristin Halvorsen, (Sosialistisk Venstreparti), plans to vote on a measure calling for military action against Israel if it decides to act against the Hamas in Gaza. Norway, Israel and the Jews blog informs the Tundra Tabloids of the following:Socialistic Left dubious moral tradeoff for bombing Libya: Use armed force against Israel.....

Nobody is buying your horses*** anymore Speller! Not the media, not the American people, and certainly not the family of the terrorist victims who u and your ilk are indirectly to blame.

U claim to be exposing this worldwide conspiracy of Muslims trying to take over the world. What a joke! Muslims are discriminated against as a whole and possess very little influence outside of the middle east. Jews have a thousand times more power and political sway in all major western countries which allows the continuation of the undemocratic and racist policies of Israel.

Quite obviously the only thing u are accomplishing is providing your already hateful followers with the motivation to carry out terrorist acts against innocent kids. If u were genuinely sorry about this massacre u would take down this hateful website, stop incitement of violence, and apologize for your grave misdeeds.

Real Jew wrote:
"Jews have a thousand times more power and political sway in all major western countries which allows the continuation of the undemocratic and racist policies of Israel."

Spoken like a "real Jew" indeed. Robert must be tripping over himself to accommodate your "honest and sound" advice...

It takes a very special person to undo his own false accusations of racism so quickly and so thoroughly as to invoke the racial "Jews run the world" conspiracy.

Well done.

Actually, the murderer invites "nazis" into his one-man "cultural Christian" movement.

Real Jew wrote:
"Sorry tuts but criticism of govt policies does NOT constitute hatred or any other nonsense u can conjure."

That's funny, because criticism of Islam does constitute hate according to "Real Jew". Now "Real Jew" will surely counter that governments and religions are apples and oranges, but don't Muslims declare that Islam is an all encompassing total belief system that regulates nearly all aspects of their lives?

Doesn't "Real Jew" subscribe to the concept of political Islam, that pseudo component of Islam that should be criticized or is "Real Jew" really out there saying that there is no component, faction, or teaching of Islam at all that ever warrants criticism?

Just wondering.

REAL JEWS apply their own morals and values, taught to us by the Torah

I think yours may be missing a few pages. I would draw your attention to Joel 3, and how God will deal with those that persecute the Jewish people.

2 I will gather all nations
and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat.
There I will put them on trial
for what they did to my inheritance, my people Israel,
because they scattered my people among the nations
and divided up my land.

...

19 But Egypt will be desolate,
Edom a desert waste,
because of violence done to the people of Judah,
in whose land they shed innocent blood.
20 Judah will be inhabited forever
and Jerusalem through all generations.
21 Shall I leave their innocent blood unavenged?
No, I will not.”

You clowns keep bringing up Islam. Islam this Islam that . Frankly I could give 2 sh*** about Islam. What's hilarious is I'm not here to defend Islam. I doubt anybody would go to a site like this and try to defend something that's already carved in your brains. Its actually quite amusing reading the outrageous claims and ideologies you people have about issues pertaining to Islam. You're all obsessed with it or at least your hatred for it.

I think claiming yourself the victor is a little premature but I understand the anxiety you must be experiencing after THAT response. And here's why:

Accusing me of supporting the "jews run the world" conspiracy because I stated they have tremendous power in western countries is indeed twisting or exaggerating my words.
When I said Speller is "indirectly" to blame that implies though they didn't give the norwegian terrorist orders to kill, they certainly encouraged a fear mongering paranoid and hateful mentality needed to carry out his murderous agenda. Whether the victim's family blame Speller is irrelevant.
But the most preposterous of your claims u either refuse to believe or intentionally deny is how much influence the Jewish lobbies have in the West, most notably the US. Every single Islamic lobbies u mentioned can be consolidated into one entity and still wouldn't begin to compete with just one of the jewish lobbies. Aipac donates close to 100 million dollars a year to political candidates and other various political elements compared to 2-3 million of islamic lobbies COMBINED! Still not convinced? Want another example of their influence? Just ask Chas Freeman

"Fake jew" WTH IS A SPELLER?

‎"Our" government leaders (self-salesmen) already have committees studying the Qur'an etc; they know what's in it.

But how many, many times already, have they sent important issues out to committee, and then officially ignored THEIR OWN groups' findings?!

Talk won't work until the playing field has been leveled, and they see their own neighbours and native Citizens as being as big a PERSONAL threat to them as they do their Saudi masters.

Right now, both the carrot and the stick are ONLY in the moslem's hands.

They induce the fear (of having one's family decapitated in jihad) and greed (the Saudi's oil money bribes) for the libturd salesmen who we laughingly refer to as "our leaders."

All we have for self-defense are empty (if entirely factual) words.

Money (and fear) still talks, but empty words walk. Same-old.

I'm sorry it comes down to this but the liberals have already long-since proven that they literally will not listen to reason if and when the enemy of reason (the moslem jihadi) is the only one employing the carrot-and-stick binary of behavioural conditioning.

Liberals are counter-rational cowards, and mindless authoritarian Conformists; they: "Don't care who started it (or even if it started yet!) they only want it ALL to stop, so: SUBMIT!"

The friend of my enemy is my enemy. Simple enough?

We CAN attack in defense; it's perfectly moral and righteous to do so. Even Jesus said so.

You cannot pretend ALL attacks are cause-and-effect-free cases of: "Two wrongs don't make a right!" - because attacking in defense is completely morally different than attacking innocent others first.

When you attack first, then by definition, you are the predatory, criminal aggressor, and they are your innocent victims, there's no two ways about it.

Liberals are ENABLERS (by allowing and favoring immigration of the moslems IN STEAD of placid Hindus and civilized Chinese) and so are not only appeasers, but are in fact willing accessories to the ongoing global crime-gang of islam; being so directly in the enemy's employ, they ARE the enemy.

The Norwegian Crusader has a very simple manifesto:

"Dear cowardly government traitors: it's not only the moslems you need to fear and appease, as you import hundreds of thousands and millions of those "holy mobsters" into our countries every year, risking "only" everyone else's lives, for only your OWN, selfish, personal gains."

-The Native Citizens-

;-)

By telling the truth about islam, Robert and others like him are doing a great service to humanity.
Islam is an arab supremacist, antichrist, evil and satanic ideology that divides humanity into muslims and non-muslims or infidels and teaches muslims nothing but hate for non-muslims.
And that is the true nature of islam and there can never be peace on this planet Earth as long as islam is present on this Earth and the knowledge of this fact will result in reactions by non-muslims in many ways.
Sometimes it is necessary to react to hate with hate and violence with violence.
Bible(1John2:22) defines Antichrist as the one that denies the Father and the Son; and allah,islam,mohammad and muslims deny and condemn the belief in the Father and the Son.

Real Jew?

Since you won't respond when bested, I will make you my new personal project here at JW, Real Jew.

Enjoy your brief time left here, I know I will.

Real Jew wrote:
"It's a little curious why u chose not to address the statements I made pertaining to AIPAC,.islamic lobbies and chass freeman."

But I did. It's right here in this thread. I countered your baseless assertion with one of my own, and pointed out the obvious fact that lobbys exist for everything. Here I'll cut and paste it for you again...

Here you go...
"No, on the contrary, I have heard of them. You made the audacious claim that these lobbies control the foreign policy and greatly influence "all major western countries"."

"Now. since that canard again is entirely unfounded, have you heard of the OIC, the UN, CAIR, ISNA, the MSA and about a dozen plus other pro-Islam advocate groups that in my estimation, have undue influence in "all major western countries", leaving out the obvious Islamic Republics, and all other Muslim dominant population countries for brevity?"

"Lobby groups exist for nearly everything, but their mere existence alone does not validate your statement about Israel. Capitalizing the word FACT does not propel your assertion any further."

Real Jew wrote:
"In addition, I seriously doubt u feel as triumphant as u claim. I think its safe to conclude u had anger tears streaming down your face as u typed your last response. Not the sound of a winner to me. But don't worry I have some tissues for u"

Think what you want, but it is you that has made a spectacle of yourself on these forums yesterday, not I. You have not convinced anyone here that either of your two outlandish claims, 1) That Spencer is responsible for the Norway shooter ito any degree, and 2) The Jews run the world, have any merit.

Real Jew wrote:
"...I have more important things to do with my day then sit in front of a computer talking s***, like a job, house and a girlfriend."

Really? A job a house AND a girlfriend? Gosh, you sure are important.

Anyway, you arrived in bad faith and I expect to leave similarly, so I'll see you around on other threads until you depart quietly into the night.

You'll obviously want the last word here, so have at it.

Yeah u talked about the lobbies very very generally but u didn't address what I actually said about them: donations, influence, Freeman ect. I guess even u knew better then to try and argue my facts incorrect. Good boy

The man obviously has severe mental problems to say the least. It makes me wonder however why he took it out on fellow countrymen rather than the muslims very, very strange. The other by product (unforunately) was the damage to the building by the same type of bomb that was used in OK. The damage was only on the face of the building which lends more credence to something very fishy (my opinion along with a Air Force General with 30+ years in explosives) going on in OK.

ALARMED PIG FARMER :

You asked if Geert Wilders was "on the hook again ". The answer : HE SURE IS !

It's about time someone asked about him. The man is once again being fingered as an inspiration for hatred of Muslims. He needs our attention and support .

His name was mentioned at least 30 times in Anders Breivik's written "manifesto " . He came right out and admitted he thought Wilders Freedom party was "the only true conservative party ", and expressed great admiration for him. All that has definately made Wilders look bad and the hungry dogs that want to eat him alive are feasting - they can hardly wait until his image is ruined entirely .

Since the Norway attack his name has been mentioned in AT LEAST 50 ARTICLES .

And he really has more to lose than anyone else who has been accused of contributing to the Norway killer's way of thinking . I know Pamela and Robert and Gates of Vienna and certain other heavyweight critics of Islam etc.,have been accused of helping Breivik believe he must go on that killing spree, BUT- they are not politicians whose career may well depend on how people see him in regard to this Norway incident.

Take my word for it- he has it bad anyway- he's a person people love to hate. Now they have got another reason.

What those idiots in Holland need is an education .

If anyone here is interested in reading any of the articles that discuss Wilders all you have to do is Google news about him. be sure and check "EU Politics" .