All traces of Perry/Aga Khan curriculum removed from web

In this post I included numerous links to the Rick Perry/Aga Khan Islamic curriculum for Texas public schools. The links were to the Google cache of the curriculum material, because several days ago, after we began calling attention to it, the curriculum was taken offline. Accordingly I wrote in that post:

One very odd thing about the Aga Khan/Perry curriculum: since this whole brouhaha started, it has been taken offline. It is now available only in cached form here. Why was it taken down? Was the Perry camp embarrassed by the material that Pamela Geller published here, showing it to be a whitewash of Islamic teaching and history? Or was it taken down because it really is, as Ace says, so "biased against Muslims it will reinforce perceptions [Perry] is some kind of rootin'-tootin' six-gun shooting cowboy yahoo"?

Is either option favorable to Perry? If it was taken down because it's a dhimmi whitewash, Perry is tacitly admitting that our criticisms of him were right, and those evaluating Perry should be concerned about his naivete in dealing with the Aga Khan. If it was taken down because it was too honest about Islam and will thus hurt Perry with the dhimmi/Norquist faction of the GOP, Perry is again tacitly admitting that our criticisms of him were right: he is not able or willing to stand up to Norquist and his Islamic supremacist allies. So which is it? What are they hiding? And does it matter? Either way, the deep-sixing of the curriculum proves that we were right about Perry all along.

Now that impression is compounded by the fact that even the cached links no longer work: the Perry/Aga Khan curriculum has been completely wiped from the web. Pamela Geller has screenshots here, however.

I suspect that the curriculum has been taken down because it is a whitewash of Islamic texts, teachings and history. After all, as I showed here, it relies on compromised "authorities" such as Carl Ernst, John Esposito, and Michael Sells, among others. The apologists for Perry have not explained and cannot explain why, if this curriculum is as innocuous or even as Islamorealistic as they claim, it has been wiped from the web. What is the Perry camp hiding? And why?

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There are over 1000 other Independent School Districts, in Texas to search.

Yes, they are independent.

Uh, it's not available in cached form, either. Click on the "here" you provided above - and it ain't there.

I could be wrong. This issue is not going away, especially after we got burned by former President Bush.

Obama's heart is with Islam. We want him removed from office, November 2012. He's been this nation's worst nightmare.

Notwithstanding all the indignation and fury from Perry-defenders, Governor Perry owes his base some reassuring words on Islam and the jihad.

Aga khan is a true meaning of a false prophet.

Their religion is a joke itself, Ismail's are linked to 'hashish' arabic term for assasins, and little side note they 'hashish were the first ever islamic suicide squad (surprise surprise) lol
source: check out the bbc documentary about crusades.

Daniel Pipes replies:

"I agree with you that Geller's attack on Perry is irresponsible. The Aga Khan is a leading anti-Islamist figure and Perry's connection to Grover Norquist concerns taxation, not Islam."

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/188387


Norway's connection to Hamas concerns it's political arm; not its Islamic military arm. You see, like Norquist, Hamas has two separate and distinct arms.

Well, today I filled out the e-mail form on the below site, and referred to the speech, also below contained in the link, and informed Perry that we could no longer vote for him as he panders to the Muslims and knows nothing about Islam:


http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/5156/

Stick to your guns, Robert--you know how to follow your nose, and you know where to aim them.

Here is the link to the Education Code as enacted by the Texas Legislature...
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/ED/htm/ED.28.htm#28.002

Here is the link to the curriculum of Texas Education Agency...
http://www.tea.state.tx.us/index2.aspx?id=5488

Someone might ought to find out how things work in Texas before sticking their neck out. While the governor does in fact appoint the head of the State Board of Education with 15 elected members of the board. The education curriculum is actually a state law. Individual INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS can in fact have supplemental courses and subject matter at their own discretion.

In a great many ways, the governor of Texas is one of the weakest offices in the state, by design. In many ways the Lt. Governor (who presides over the state senate and approves what bills can come to the floor) and the Speaker of the House (who has similar power) have more influence over the state than the governor. That being said, while Perry is by state design, holds a rather weak office, he has considerably more power than his predecessors due his longevity in office and as a result having appointed more to serve than is normal in Texas.

What is odd about all the chaotic statements about Perry and the school curricula is that friends of mine wholly involved in the education system, but in another school district have absolutely no idea what the fuss is all about.

In addition, if you look at the TEA website you will find that there were changes to the state's basic curricula for the school year of 2011/2012 from the previous year. Just PERHAPS some are jumping to conclusions about a missing link due changes in the Social Studies Curriculum.

FYI, Perry in no way has the power to cause the SAISD to wipe something clean. Just consider the makeup of the demographics and voting pattern of the geographical boundaries of the INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

The more I investigate, the more I find much adieu about nothing. This is a fine example of those who publish articles, whether they are in print or posted online, really do need to investigate and not jump to conclusions.

I've written my and had my say. Do what you like as I have taken up far to much time trying to inform the uninformed, in this particular matter.

Robert - Why don't you and Pamela have the courage to tell the world what your real agenda is? And how can the two of you so recklessly soil your reputations on this issue?

One year ago, Pamela Geller lauded the state of Texas, and Rick Perry's Texas State School Board for beginning to crack down on the Islamic Component of text books. (Click this link to see post at ATlas Shrugs a year ago regarding Pamela's cediting Rick Perry's School Board actions regarding this issue, saying every town in America should do what his school board did. Hypocrasy here?)

How can Pamela Geller get away from scrubbing her site and justify it of posts regarding the shooter of the Norway massacre and then jump on a school district for scrubbing links to Islamic studies, that clearly are in violation of the Texas School Baord under Rick Perry and then she and you blame HIM for those links, but up and when scrubbed.

You guys are are going to see this "firestorm" blow up in your face. And I for years thought you people were smarter than that.

"How can Pamela Geller get away from scrubbing her site and justify it of posts regarding the shooter of the Norway massacre and then jump on a school district for scrubbing links to Islamic studies, that clearly are in violation of the Texas School Board under Rick Perry and then she and you blame HIM for those links, but up and when scrubbed."

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If she did scrub her site of a post regarding (or from) the shooter in the Norway massacre she should acknowledge it and acknowledge she exercised poor judgment by posting the e-mail to begin with. We all exercise poor judgment from time to time.

I'm not sure what one has to do with the other. We are talking about a potential long-term history on the part of Governor Perry, who may have exercised poor judgment with respect to Islam in Texas, if the information coming out is accurate.

PS: Rick Perry is running to be the 45th president of the United States.

D,
Since there was a LEGISLATED change in the basic curriculum for Texas Schools, AND that article you reference is from Sept. 2010 and thus would take effect this year, the "missing link" would certainly be likely due the change in the curriculum, nothing more and nothing less.

It is also rather curious that Geller posts such an article immediately after Perry seems to have "cleaned Bachmann's clock" in Iowa AFTER the Ames Caucus Straw Poll. For anyone who has followed along, Geller has long been on Bachmann's bandwagon. Such hit pieces are quite common during political campaigns and likely some hit piece will be levied by Perry's campaign with similar distance. IF that is why the article and subsequent ones were posted.

For those unaware, the Ames ("Iowa") Caucus Straw Poll is nothing more than a fundraiser for the state GOP. Candidates compete mainly by buying tickets ($30 each) for their supporters to be able to vote in it. It means nothing and actually the winner is usually an early casualty of the GOP Presidential Primary.

I know that such action really does reek, but it is effective, it is a payday for websites, and all campaigns do it.

Okay, I'm done with this. Thanks for the link as it reveals quite a bit of what is going on.

Whoever you are, sir or madam, I say that your name is Deceit. And what, may I ask, is your game? (You've blown in from nowhere to damn us here with faint praise. Now, blow back to wherever Infernal place to came from; you can see for yourself--as I can--the San Antonio school district's participation in this project from the screen captured portion--go join the Hausa, Hui, and Urdu praises of Prophet Mohammed found there!)

. . . Whatever Infernal place you came from . . . !

Yes, Deceit, go join in that Infernal chorus of praises!!

"It is also rather curious that Geller posts such an article immediately after Perry seems to have "cleaned Bachmann's clock" in Iowa AFTER the Ames Caucus Straw Poll."


CK, I think I've mentioned here, I've been a strong Bachmann supporter. As with Bachmannn, I heard good things about Perry before he entered the race. Because of my faith, I am inclined to support a strong man over a woman for such a high office, all things being equal. Perry's years of executive experience give him a significant advantage over Bachmann. I've pretty much resigned myself now that Bachmann probably will not be the Republican nominee. I would like to see her some place in a future Republican administration and I think Rick Perry, who like Bachmann is a devout Christian, owes it to his conservative base to explain these nagging questions.

Off the subject but this is amazing....everyone should see this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mge5Um4Lx4&feature=share

D:

Robert - Why don't you and Pamela have the courage to tell the world what your real agenda is? And how can the two of you so recklessly soil your reputations on this issue?

Why don't you read Atlas and figure out what her agenda is, instead of insinuating she has ulterior motives. Like it's a secret huh?
How can Pamela Geller get away from scrubbing her site and justify it of posts regarding the shooter of the Norway massacre...
She had done nothing of the sort. She has in the comments admitted she edited quotes referring to stockpiling weapons. These in no way incriminate her but, rather the shooter. Hence, no one has any evidence that Atlas or the SIOE is responsible for this.
You guys are are going to see this "firestorm" blow up in your face. And I for years thought you people were smarter than that.
I doubt that for years you held Atlas and Robert in high regards. You are a troll. You are here to try and get as much mileage out of ONE edited quote from of seven years of Atlas archives. Do you have anything else because I sure do?

There needs to be a website that addresses the textbook jihad. It can address specific textbooks and specific falsehoods and distortions, and it can also address the general tendency of islamic special interest groups to present a sanitized view of their beliefs and history. And it can address the issue of public figures who are in bed with these groups. When the school moms network discovers it, the word will spread like wildfire.

If you were really against the savage doctrines of Islam and were absolutely opposed to them you'd be saying that the scrubbing of Perry's site of the suspect material concerning Islam was highly significant.
But instead, you've decided to have a go at Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller. Interesting!

You're a clown!

you can always look for an old version of a webpage in the Internet Archive's wayback machine http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
It's amazing what kinds of stuff you can dig up in the archive.

Tried it already. Also the Wayback Machine at http://waybackmachine.org . Nothing on either that I could find but I didn't try very hard. Someone else should have a go at it, too.

I'm not an American but it looks to me if Perry can learn from his mistakes you should lay off him. Looks like he and Marco Rubio would be a good combination to defeat Obama.
Its not a perfect world remember. Its human to make mistakes.

I see this issue from a different perspective then most here. I am that rare liberal democrat who reads (and agrees with most of what I read) Jihad Watch regularly. I think Obama is doing a good job (my disappointment is that he hasn’t been successful enough in moving things to the left), and for what ever my predictions are worth, I predict he will easily cruise to reelection in 2012.

But my point is, it is not my views on domestic politics or our president, that brings me here, but rather my desire to be informed on the threat that Islam represents to our shared values as a Western democracy. I note that Robert has a very different view of Obama and Democratic policies in general, to which I say, that is fine. My hope is that at this site we are united not on our views of American presidential politics, but on our view of Islam. It is Robert’s right to proclaim and endorse anything he wants (it is after all his site), but I would hope that we would spend less time talking about these issues and more on the Jihad threat. I think that Jihad Watch has a valuable role in educating people about this threat. To the extent that it is seen as a conservative partisan site, it will never succeed in reaching the huge numbers of people who do not identify themselves as conservative.

In that context it makes perfect sense to expose that Perry is weak on these issues. Certainly Obama has been criticized forcefully here for his short comings in dealing with the Jihad threat, and what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

I see this issue from a different perspective then most here. I am that rare liberal democrat who reads (and agrees with most of what I read) Jihad Watch regularly. I think Obama is doing a good job (my disappointment is that he hasn’t been successful enough in moving things to the left), and for what ever my predictions are worth, I predict he will easily cruise to reelection in 2012.

But my point is, it is not my views on domestic politics or our president, that brings me here, but rather my desire to be informed on the threat that Islam represents to our shared values as a Western democracy. I note that Robert has a very different view of Obama and Democratic policies in general, to which I say, that is fine. My hope is that at this site we are united not on our views of American presidential politics, but on our view of Islam. It is Robert’s right to proclaim and endorse anything he wants (it is after all his site), but I would hope that we would spend less time talking about these issues and more on the Jihad threat. I think that Jihad Watch has a valuable role in educating people about this threat. To the extent that it is seen as a conservative partisan site, it will never succeed in reaching the huge numbers of people who do not identify themselves as conservative.

In that context it makes perfect sense to expose that Perry is weak on these issues. Certainly Obama has been criticized forcefully here for his short comings in dealing with the Jihad threat, and what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

"Its not a perfect world remember. Its human to make mistakes."

I almost never see any politician learning from mistakes. Many of them are no more than psychopaths.

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