Camp David Accords on the brink: Egypt withdraws envoy to Israel

So much for internationally-brokered peace. We Spencerdanian devotees always knew you were a prophet, if not the Prophet.

Perhaps another fire storm in the Sinai is exactly what the Egyptians need to be put in their place. And this time, keep the Sinai for good. There can be no peace with these Muslim aggressors. The sooner Israel realizes this, the better.

As per the attacked bus (392) driver:" I saw Egyptian military's and, suddenly they start to shoot on us."

May be it is up to Egypt to apologize to Israel ????

Who knows if the Egyptian soldiers killed were not part of the ambush???

Hugh Fitzgerald and many others wrote here for years that the "cold peace" with Mubarak wasn't worth the paper it was written on and frequently advocated its repudiation. Now that the Egyptian strong-man is gone, we're all lamenting it...and watching the repercussions spiral out of control.

Chances are the Egyptian police let the terrorists through in the first place. Now they want an apology. At least the islamists are consistent with their unmitigated gall!!!!

Israel clearly needs to refortify its Sinai border with Egypt, and to prepare for another war, particularly if the Muslim Brotherhood gains sway in both Syria and Egypt. In that case, it should clean house, regardless the cost and not repeat the Lebanon fiasco.

Over the long run, the Islamization of Europe (and resultant Muslim Mediterranean) could make Israel's geostrategic position untenable and viability as a state uncertain.

In the short-run, one would expect a toppling of the Alawite Assad regime in Syria to undermine Iran's position in Lebanon and, possibly that of Hezbollah as well.

Any treaty with the infidel may be broken at any time.

A slam-dunk in a long line of slam-dunks for Spencer in the ongoing so-called 'Arab Spring' (smirk).

To switch sports for a second, Robert, just swing for the fences every time the ball comes near you. You could do it blindfold to make it more interesting for yourself...

Psalms 83:2-5
See how your enemies are astir, how your foes rear their heads. With cunning they conspire against your people; they plot against those you cherish. "Come," they say, "let us destroy them as a nation, that the name of Israel be remembered no more." With one mind they plot together; they form an alliance against you... Speaking of Israel's Arab neighbors.

This is the beginning of the next war against Israel. The major problem this time is: The Egyptian armee is equiped with the latest American tanks and planes. This time, it's going to be a close call.

"But Mr Mubarak's ousting in a popular uprising has sparked fears among Israeli officials that a less amenable government could take charge in Cairo."

Of course there is going to be a less "amenable" (i.e., more openly Islamic) government established. The global jihad is establishing their Islamic democracy kingdoms around the world with the blood of the West and in preparation for their loose uniting of the Muslim world.

And, of course, it's all Israel's fault for doing something "aggressive" and messing up the "peace process". Legions believe this.

Israel never loses a war, they just let themselves get talked into a false truce.

If Israel wins the war, she should permanently take hold of the Sinai peninsula. Although it is basically a huge desert, it does give Israel a strategic asset. Land for peace is no solution, because the muslim promises are basically lies. They loose land for war.

I hope Europe and the USA have the resources and will to help Israel this time.

" 19. When they were but few in number, few indeed, and
trangers in it,

20, They wandered from nation to nation, from one kingdom
to another.

21. He allowed no man to oppress them; for their sake he
rebuked kings:

22. “Do not touch my anointed ones; do my prophets no
harm.”

My humble opinion is that there are more deaf and dumb people in the US, than in any other country in the World.

"Egypt withdraws envoy to Israel"

This could be part of a larger strategy being pursued in support of Palestine's application for UN membership next month. My colleagues in Israeli tell me they are girding for this confrontation.

"But the Egyptian cabinet issued a statement on Saturday denying it had lost control of the Sinai and demanding an apology from the Israeli leadership over "the sad and hasty remarks about Egypt"."

and just to prove their point Egypt is dispatching large military forces to regain control of the Sinai from the al-Qaeda forces who have owned it for a while..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14587101 :

"BBC Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen, in Jerusalem, says the desert region [Sinai] has become increasingly lawless since the Egyptian revolution that ousted President Hosni Mubarak, with a rise in al-Qaeda-inspired militant activity"

Wow

"Egyptian officials say Israeli forces chased the suspected militants across the border, and a number of people were killed - INCLUDING THE POLICEMEN."

I SMELL A RAT! There are several ways in which those police may very well not have been the collateral damage the Egyptians are claiming.

1. The terrorists could have been dressed as police.

2. The terrorists could have BEEN police.

3. The terrorists could have been meeting the police amicably.

4. These police could NEVER HAVE ACTULLY EXISTED.

5. The police could have been tryig to aid the escape of the terrorists by fireing on the persuing Israeli soldiers.

As far as the very real possiblility that those police were really terrorists-

Remember that there have been attacks against police stations in Sanai. Aside from weapons, police uniforms can also be found in police stations. Considering how many terrorists commit atrocities while dressed as police it is obvious that police uniforms were looted as well.

If the altercation did occur, then what weapons the people dressed as police held will indicate weather they were really police or not.

oops I should have said

If the altercation did occur, then what weapons the people dressed as police held MIGHT indicate weather they were really police or not.

They did loot weapons along with uniforms.

"Israel is only interested in a subservient Egypt, not a free Egypt. By protesting outside the embassy we're sending them a clear message. This is not Mubarak's Egypt anymore. If you kill our soldiers, there will be consequences."

It's amazing that these pinheads cry about others attempting to make them submit. Considering the name of their religion translates to submission, and the entire middle eastern culture is reliant on a strongman running things, I don't see how they feel that they have a reason to make such ridiculous statements.

Also, given that islam also has a built in component on enslaving others, it makes such statements by muslims all the more preposterous as they don't even see the contradictions.

The latest violence began on Thursday when gunmen attacked buses near the Israeli Red Sea resort of Eilat, killing eight people.
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Hundreds of Egyptians protested outside the Israeli embassy in Cairo overnight, burning the Israeli flag and demanding that the Israeli ambassador be expelled from the country.
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I don't suppose there will be any Egyptian protests over the murder of these innocent and unarmed Israeli resort-goers? Of course not...

I don't suppose that if the peace between Israel and Egypt is completely violated by the latter, that Israel gets the Sinai back?

Really, I have to stop asking these silly questions...

robert, friends:

war is inevitable.

it will be waged by israel against hamas, hezbollah, syria, egypt and jordan, and if waged against these parties alone will largely be a repeat of past wars except perhaps more costly for israel.

iran will not partake directly in the war, simply because she cannot get there, and will have to be content to do via its proxies.

the critical unknown factor is turkey. no war is frivolous. but, turkish intervention in a pan-arabic/islamic war could have very serious consequences, indeed.

the turks are not incompetents, and they will not flee from any battlefield, and they will join the fight, and it will be a "close combat" situation with the turks, quite likely involving infantry.

this is pivotal.--

one of the difficulty with israeli strategic/military thinking is the reluctance of the israelis to develop any capacity for committing infantry to battle, ... , they will not do so, because they will not suffer the casualties associated with infantry combat. in my opinion, this is why israel fights the same war over and over again, which involves the infliction of harm upon her arab adversaries sufficient to take their strategic arms from the battlefield. in short, israel fights until she destroys arab fighter planes and tanks, and then refuses to join in closer battle because she will not accept the casualties, and refrains from strategic punishment of arab civilian populations and infrastructure because she fears the criticism of "disproportionate damage" hurled at her by the left.

in short, israel will not, in practicable terms, kill anyone when she fights them, she just destroys their ability to attempt to "project strategic power."

if turkey gets involved, it will be telling, because i do not believe the turks will allow that option, or strategic approach, if you will, to the israelis.

if turkey gets involved, israel is going to have to kill infantry to keep infantry from penetrating her borders.

turkis involvement makes this a very serious set of warfare contingencies. if turkey steps in, israel is going to have to kill a lot of people to maintain her existence.

i do not know if she is willing to, and this frightens me, considerably.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

p.s. i say that war is "inevitable."

by that, i mean precisely this.--

the arabs are too stupid not to start it by attacking israel, and too impatient to accomplish their aims any other way, and too incompetent to be able to see how to accomplish their aims any other way.

in short, their blood is up. they think victory "inevitable."

i think they have another think coming, as we say out n.e. oregon way.

Months ago JW warned of this. Egypt will become more and more dangerous. Israel must take steps to protect itself without the United States help.

The U.S. has become a group of cowards and ignorant people whom are so full of themselves they can't see past their nose. Israel can no longer count on the U.S. for help or protection.

Because of this Israel shouldn't consider the U.S. an allie. Because the U.S. will say and do anything Islam asks of them out of fear I suspect.

Citizens of the U.S. are also on their own from this day forward. The U.S. legislators are pro political correctness first and formost and not its citizens.

Washington D.C. is already influanced by Islam, that will only grow worse as time passes. So be forwarned Islam is powerful in the entire world and is 100 times more dangerous than A. Hitler was.

Our nation is in serious denile to the facts. Some things never change.

You all are talking Armageddon here, a concept well established in the Judeo /Christian scriptures. So if you are an unbeliever still it's your own responsibility. The evidence is as clear as the nose on your face. Here's only one of many prophecies.

Zechariah 12:2-5
"I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves. On that day I will strike every horse with panic and its rider with madness," declares the LORD. "I will keep a watchful eye over the house of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of the nations.