Former CIA agent and Ron Paul adviser writes on antisemitic website attacking counter-jihadists

AB:HoroWildersSpencerGeller.jpgUh, that’s not David Horowitz, genius

Big-time negotiators
False healers and woman haters
Masters of the bluff, masters of the proposition
But the enemy I see
Wears a cloak of decency
— Bob Dylan, “Slow Train

Philip Giraldi is a former CIA counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer who served 18 years in Turkey, Italy, Germany, and Spain. In 2008 he was a foreign policy adviser to Ron Paul. He is also a venomous antisemite who has written, even in the age of Obama, that “Israel-firsters” are the “masters of the executive and legislative branches.” Well, here’s another charge of antisemitism for Giraldi.

And that’s the thing: in “Neo-Cons and Muslim Haters” at the antisemitic Veterans Today site (thanks to Maxwell), Giraldi (while misidentifying David Horowitz in the photo above — Horowitz is not in it) complains that “David Horowitz, Daniel Pipes, Robert Spencer, and Pamela Geller” are “leaders in the indictment of Islam” and also “not coincidentally, a vocal advocate of Israel and its policies.” He blames us for the Norway murders (find the truth here) and says: “They are the alligators in the swamp that they have created and are now frantically engaged in distancing themselves from their words and deeds.”

Actually, I am distancing myself from nothing, because I have done nothing. I never called for violence or anything but peaceful and legal activity, and so any violence supposedly done because of what I have written is no more my responsibility than the Beatles are responsible for the Manson murders. But of course Giraldi and others say that what I write is “hate” and thus the crossover to violence is not a big leap. Actually, however, this is a common charge but there is no hatred in anything I write, and I challenge anyone and everyone to find a single genuinely hateful statement I’ve ever written. On this page for eight years I have said this:

Any Muslim who renounces violent jihad and dhimmitude is welcome to join in our anti-jihadist efforts. Any hate in my books comes from Muslim sources quoted, not from me. Cries of “hatred” and “bigotry” are effectively used by American Muslim advocacy groups to try to stifle the debate about the terrorist threat. But there is no substance to them.

It is not an act of hatred against Muslims to point out the depredations of jihad ideology. It is a peculiar species of displacement and projection to accuse someone who exposes the hatred of one group of hatred himself: I believe in the equality of rights and dignity of all people, and that is why I oppose the global jihad. Those who make the charge use it as a tool to frighten the credulous and politically correct away from the truth.

Some time ago here at Jihad Watch I had an exchange with an English convert to Islam. I said: “I would like nothing better than a flowering, a renaissance, in the Muslim world, including full equality of rights for women and non-Muslims in Islamic societies: freedom of conscience, equality in laws regarding legal testimony, equal employment opportunities, etc.” Is all that “anti-Muslim”? My correspondent thought so. He responded: “So, you would like to see us ditch much of our religion and, thereby, become non-Muslims.”

In other words, he saw a call for equality of rights for women and non-Muslims in Islamic societies, including freedom of conscience, equality in laws regarding legal testimony, and equal employment opportunities, as a challenge to his religion. To the extent that they are, these facts have to be confronted by both Muslims and non-Muslims. But it is not “anti-Muslim” to wish freedom of conscience and equality of rights on the Islamic world — quite the contrary.

But what of Philip Giraldi and his ilk? They’re giving aid and comfort to the jihad that wants to see Israel destroyed utterly. Many jihadists in that area are frankly genocidal, including Hassan Nasrallah of Hizballah, who has said: “If they (Jews) all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide.” Now that is a real incitement to violence, and a genuine evil. And Philip Giraldi has the temerity, or the moral myopia, or both, to go on a Jew-hating website and try to take the moral high ground with us.

Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. — Isaiah 5:20

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  1. says

    . .From the same. .”Adulterers in churches and pornography in the schools. .you got gangsters in power and lawbreakers making the rules.” When you gonna Wake Up?

  2. says

    Justice is driven back, and righteousness stands at a distance; truth has stumbled in the streets, honesty cannot enter. Truth is nowhere to be found, and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey.
    Isaiah 59:14-15

    Kinda sad isn’t it.

  3. says

    He blames you for murders in Norway by Anders Behring Breivik? I expect that next he will accuse you of contributing to the motivation of the polar bear on Svalbard. After all, the shovellers of “guilt by association” require no justification whatsoever.

  4. says

    I clicked on the link to this piece on the “Veterans Today” site. Giraldi – who served as a foreign policy adviser to pro-Hamas Congressman Ron Paul – posted an e-mail he believes or claims may have been written by Breivik which Giraldi claims Pamela Geller posted on her website in 2007. Giraldi wrote: “Geller has removed the posting from her website but it can still be found through Google.”

    So I Google it and lo and behold I got a piece written by Charles Johnson who claims Pam Geller did not remove the post but edited the post, which Johnson claims said in part, “We are stockpiling and cashing weapons….”

    Johnson wrote: “In June 2007, counter-jihad blogger Pamela Geller posted the following Email from Norway, from a reader who sounds a lot like the Oslo terrorist, Anders Behring Breivik…..”

    He sounds a lot like Brevik but Johnson is not sure?

    First, I do not know who is telling or not telling the truth. If someone sent Spencer or Geller an e-mail from Europe, deploring Muslim immigration but then added he was stockpiling weapons,ammunition and equipment, etc., I don’t think it would be good to post it on their respective websites, nor would I expect they would.

  5. says

    Ron Paul and the libertarians! I’ve always felt libertarians are selfish. If we all lived 5 miles from our nearest neighbor, perhaps libertarianism might work. In todays urban crowded environment it’s as apathetic as Ron’s delusions of Israel.

  6. says

    When it comes to Moslems, Dr. Ron Paul, M.D.-TX is just plain dumb.

    He’s like seemingly all libertarians when it comes to foreign policy.

    When they assiduously apply market theory to domestic problems they are almost always right.

    When they apply market theory to situations that are not even markets at all — lacking such features as pricing and clearance, let alone free decision making — they end up making fools of themselves.

    In foreign affairs libertarians inevitably end up looking like horse’s asses.

    But that’s ok, cuz being a horse’s ass no longer carries a price in terms of lost credibility. Just axe Prez Barack Hussein Obama.

    *** 33:21 ***

    But Giraldi is no horse’s ass. He found the right presidential campaign to join. A libertarian’s campaign.

  7. says

    I went to the VT site this morning over an article posted over at This Ain’t Hell where VT’s senior editor posted an article claiming that Navy Seals were murdered to protect Obama’s reelection. Absolutely whacko. I read a few more articles there and became convinced that the site and its commentors are muslim loving, Jew hating paranoids who would Support Ron Paul in a minute. If I were in government antiterrorism, I would be keeping an eye on these guys. They’re more Jew hating than Hamas and more paranoid than Pakistanis. And although seemingly libertarian, they also spout a lot of leftist rant. Whoaboy! Medication for this stuff hasn’t been invented yet. At least not stuff that won’t kill you before it cures you.

  8. says

    It’s disconcerting to reflect upon the distinct possibility that many folks who have been in intelligence operations (like Giraldi) are not all that intelligent. Nope, not a good game plan.

  9. says

    IMO — what is attributed to Gabriel could have actually been that ‘spirit of insanity’ that Isaiah (or was it Jeremiah?) wrote about.

    Or perhaps it was the Angel of Death/haSatan/the yetzer hara which in Jewish tradition are all one (Bava Basra 16a).

  10. says

    I think the category tag you used pretty much sums it up: “Useful Idiots.” These dull-normal “intellectuals” would be amusing if they didn’t present a danger to the rest of us.

  11. says

    Dear Robert:
    First thing out of my mouth when I realized that VT was/is “antisemitic” was OMG…reason: left a couple of comments to a good article on that site a while ago. So now I see their bashing Geller you et al…I will add them to my sadly growing list of “no go sites.”

    “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.” — Isaiah 5:20
    How sadly apropos vis-a-vis these twilight zone times.

    Truth seekers KNOW you guys are decent, kind, brave human beings. You are pinching pinched nerves! bravo!

    Wana (after a long hiatus)

  12. says

    The “Veterans Today” group & site is quite possibly a SOROS FUNDED LEFTY “Peace Organization” with Jihadi Ties,or FAR FAR RIGHT NEO-NAZI one that actually puts them in the same bed with the FAR FAR LEFT and JIHADISTS.
    They’re a “shapeshifter”in that regard.

    “Veterans Today” is an organization that is covering itself in FALSE PATRIOTISM and attempts to SEDITIOUSLY INFLUENCE the thought patterns of those either serving ,have served,or in any other way is connected to the U.S. Military Community.

    They give themselves a FALSE STOLEN (Glory)FACADE for their SEDITION.

  13. says

    The enlightened progressive pinky boyz & gals at ‘Harry’s Place’ see guilt by association, of course:

    Breivik devotes much of his manifesto to his belief that Muslims in Europe, allied with European political elites, are engaged in a multifaceted conspiracy to rid the continent of its cultural roots, outbreed indigenous populations and eventually replace all the nations with an Islamic state. This concept, referred to as “Islamization,” sprung from ideas developed and popularized by the anti-jihad movement. After the massacre in Norway, a number of its well-known activists were accused of inspiring Breivik.

    Among them are Americans Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller. The former runs a blog devoted to tracking “Islamization” in the West, while Geller gained prominence for her role in inflaming the Ground Zero Mosque controversy last year. Closely allied, they have written extensively about the supposed threat of Muslims and the complicity and weakness of Western politicians. They are undoubtedly responsible for helping spread Islamization conspiracy theories, and have also aligned themselves with the U.K.’s English Defense League, a far-right offshoot of the BNP responsible for organizing anti-Muslim marches that often descend into violence.

    There is more:

    http://hurryupharry.org/2011/08/07/breivik's-debt-is-to-anti-muslim-bigots/

    These people are dumber than dirt and more ignorant than my cockatoo.

  14. says

    So an anti-Semitic, Islamophile, paleo-conservative is getting his talking points from the disgruntled liberal blogger Charles Johnson. I hope Johnson is happy that anti-Semites and Islamophiles are cribbing from him to undermine counter-jihad activities. According to the insane logic of Johnson being quoted by an anti-Semite would make him by default an anti-Semite.

    On an aside note, I think if any incitement to violence is happening, it is the leftist media that is inciting violence against people like Robert Spencer and other counter-jihad activities. Fjordman has already been driven into hidding due to the vicious and malicious attacks made on his character by vermin like Johnson and other “anti-fascist” bloggers, who maliciously accused him of being Breivik.

  15. says

    After clicking the link to Veterans Today site and reading a few ‘articles’ I have come to the conclusion that the people writing for the site and those reading and believeing what is posted there are pants on head morons. Enjoy your paste, tin foil hats, and Alex Jones broadcasts VT staff and readers. Oh, and remeber, the world ends in 2012 so you don’t have to worry about them nasty old Jews for long.

  16. says

    The leftist witch hunt has commenced…

    They’d never even dream of blaming someone like Al Gore for the Discovery Channel hostage crisis or the massacre of a family in Brazil – all committed by far left environ-mentals who were inspired by “An Inconvienent Truth”.

    What are you and the rest of us guilty of? Criticizing islam and jihadists?

    So what?

    The Left is militantly anti-Christian.

    They say far worse about moderate Christians than what we say about fundamentalist islam.

    Yet that’s to be celebrated and we’re to be condemned…

  17. says

    The jihad-aiding, Israel-betraying CIA. The CIA’s Muslim masters are killing American GI’s in Afghanistan and brought this country, the United States of America, on the brink of the Roman-empire downfall.
    Time to put the CIA criminals on a Nuremberg trial, with gallows.

    Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

  18. says

    I’ve met Ron Paul in person and even shook his hand. There’s a lot that he says that I accept, but I have to admit that my regard for him as a possible presidential candidate has dropped a notch or two.

    Enraged Ruslan: back before the fall of the Soviet Union, when I was still a wooly-headed student,I used to be accused of being CIA because I knew something about the world and was not a Leftist. But I used to retort, “Don’t worry, I’m with the Good Guys–the Volkzpolizei!” It made a few masks come unstuck, because a lot of those New Leftists admitted a debt to the independent Marxists who snuck out of East Berlin, Mecklenburg, and Saxony just before the Berlin Wall went up. Once, when an Iranian student accused me of being with the CIA because I knew where Azerbaijan was, I congratulated him on cracking a major American secret–why I belonged to the First World and he belonged to the Third.

    BTW, my actual sentiments are that the “independent Marxists” who were so long touted as proof of Western “openness” should have been deported back to East Germany–or, better yet, North Korea–long ago. I utterly despise the memory of Karl Marx, and see his legacy as having poisoned every society that ever took him seriously.

    Still, the CIA was able to provide important information that led to the wet job on Usama Bin Laden. This was probably because it had good cocntacts inside various Afghan mujaheddin organizations; and because Afghanistan and Pakistan are two countries where people are for sale relatively cheaply; and because the CIA probably had a lot of chips from the Soviet-Afghan war period to cash in with a wide range of Afghans. But, by and large, many in diplomatic and other circles note that the CIA is something of a joke, and that its ability to collect human intelligence is very poor.

  19. says

    Mohammadans are notorious edit policers. They do it — but don’t we dare, you know. What they are actually often doing is projecting their own crimes on us, their enemies. Pre-emptive stikes, as it were.

    BTW — a funny thing happened within a day or so of you posting that Ron Paul Youtube where he shows his true antisemite colors (“Gaza is a concentration camp” tripe) when I asked you for proof of his inclinations (I always thought he was a fair-minded being).

    A new Twitterer appeared on one account I follow. He identified himself, with photo, as an “Islamic Libertarian.” The Mohammadans may be latching onto Ron Paul like ticks on a hound in the 2012 election. It may be the only chance Ron Paul will EVER have. I’m betting he takes their support like free money from the bank.

  20. says

    I generally support the Tea Party movement but this Paul faction – Dr. Ron Paul and Dr. Rand Paul I am watching – concerns me. Rand Paul is a Tea Party darling, as is Michele Bachmann (by all accounts, a solid Christian supporter of Israel), but unlike Bachmann I worry about Paul and his supporters. Soon after Rand Paul was elected Senator, he pushed to end aid to Israel, which I support. I think it would be good both for the US and Israel to end this unhealthy dependency. That having been said, I do not believe it was Senator Paul’s motive. Just a hunch. Then there is Red State (blog) founder Erick Erickson, whose conservative writings I follow. Erickson is a big Rand Paul supporter and I have a feeling from one of his articles he does not like or support Israel, though I am sure he would never admit it.

  21. says

    33:21 is from the Qur’an..here are the translations form various valid Islam interpreters.

    033.021
    YUSUFALI: Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.
    PICKTHAL: Verily in the messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah and the Last Day, and remembereth Allah much.
    SHAKIR: Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exemplar for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.

  22. says

    What is 33:21?

    33:21 is the chapter and verse of the central Koranic commandment. Or sura and ayat, if you prefer.

    These are the words of God; these are the words of Allah. Wags will point out that before his ascension he had worked the bump and grind as a rock god in the Kaaba or Kasbah or some such medieval tourist trap.

    But his chapter and verse relayed to us by the Archangel Gabriel is the guiding law of modern history, more or less.

    *** 33:21 ***

    Certainly you have in Mohammed an excellent exemplar for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.

    With a little bit more of the more, and a little bit less of the less, it seems.

    We are all what Tim Russert once fearfully called the Holy Prophet Mohammed now, or going there. No matter how reluctantly.

  23. says

    “guilt by association”

    That made me remember the media’s desperate attempts to excuse Obama’s twenty year membership in the caustic, America-hating Reverend Wright’s church. They cried in unison: “Right-wingers are trying to convict Obama of guilt by association” , how unfair, dastardly, and un-American! They vehemently defended the innocent Obama, insisting that he was an innocent by-stander despite faithfully partaking of Wright’s vitriol for two decades. Not one of them ever suggested that maybe Obama and Wright were on the same page since Wright’s demonization of America certainly did not offend Obama enough to find another church.

    The only similarity in these two issues is left-wing hypocrisy, which abounds. It is dangerous for the ill-informed, uninformed, and ignorant to read anything printed and sold as news because 98% of it is subjective BS written by a left-wing ideologue.