Hamas-linked CAIR enraged by NYPD anti-terror efforts

Hamas-linked CAIR has called for an investigation. And if any illegal surveillance is going on, it should stop. But Hamas-linked CAIR always opposes anti-terror initiatives. It is just another indication of their true agenda. "Some New York Muslims feel unfairly targeted despite government promises of partnership," from the Associated Press, August 25 (thanks to all who sent this in):

NEW YORK — Even as the New York Police Department sent undercover officers into Muslim neighborhoods to detect possible terrorist activities in the years after the Sept. 11 attacks, government officials there and elsewhere have sought to build relationships in Muslim communities and pledged to ensure that Muslims aren’t targeted for discrimination.

Outreach programs have operated in Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Minneapolis, Portland, Ore., and Washington — all have large Muslim communities — while law enforcement around the country has stepped up investigative efforts to stave off attacks.

But the inherent tensions caused by this duality of missions is perhaps most visible in New York. It is the only U.S. city that al-Qaida has successfully attacked twice and continues to be the target of terror plots. New York also is home to the country’s most aggressive local police department investigating counterterrorism.

“It seems to many of the leadership here, there are two kind of authorities they are playing — one is in the forefront which is very cooperative,” said Zaheer Uddin of the Islamic Leadership Council of New York. “And there is another authority, which is playing against Islam and Muslims, going against the First Amendment and the security of this country.”

Uddin asked, “Are we partners, or are we a suspicious community?”

Good question. Let's see. There was Naser Abdo, the would-be second Fort Hood jihad mass murderer; and Khalid Aldawsari, the would-be jihad mass murderer in Lubbock, Texas; and Muhammad Hussain, the would-be jihad bomber in Baltimore; and Mohamed Mohamud, the would-be jihad bomber in Portland; and Nidal Hasan, the successful Fort Hood jihad mass-murderer; and Faisal Shahzad, the would-be Times Square jihad mass-murderer; and Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, the Arkansas military recruiting station jihad murderer; Naveed Haq, the jihad mass murderer at the Jewish Community Center in Seattle; Mohammed Reza Taheri-Azar, the would-be jihad mass murderer in Chapel Hill, North Carolina; and Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the would-be Christmas airplane jihad bomber; or so many other jihad murderers and would-be murderers in America. Is it reasonable to be suspicious of a community that produces so many people who commit or try to commit acts of violence in the name of that community's religious texts and teachings?

Meanwhile, how have Muslims partnered with law enforcement? Hamas-linked CAIR has told Muslims not to talk to the FBI. Some Muslims have turned in jihad terror plotters to the police, but on the whole the attitude of Muslim communities -- as in this article -- has been an assumption of victim status and suspicion toward the authorities, rather than full and honest cooperation with anti-terror efforts.

A months-long investigation by The Associated Press, published Wednesday, revealed that the NYPD has dispatched teams of undercover officers, known as “rakers,” into minority neighborhoods as part of a human mapping program, according to officials directly involved in the program. They’ve monitored daily life in bookstores, bars, cafes and nightclubs. Police have also used informants, known as “mosque crawlers,” to monitor sermons, even when there’s no evidence of wrongdoing. NYPD officials have scrutinized imams and gathered intelligence on cab drivers and food cart vendors, jobs often done by Muslims.

The NYPD denied that it trolls ethnic neighborhoods and said it only follows leads.

On Wednesday, one Muslim advocacy group urged the Justice Department to investigate the NYPD’s programs in New York Muslim communities as a result of details revealed in the AP’s report.

“These revelations send the message to American Muslims that they are being viewed as a suspect community and that their constitutional rights may be violated with impunity,” said Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the [Hamas-linked] Council on American-Islamic Relations. “The Justice Department must initiate an immediate investigation of the civil rights implications of this spy program and the legality of its links to the CIA.”

The Justice Department said it will review the request to investigate.

In the decade since the September 2001 attacks, government officials in New York also have met with Muslim leaders and exchanged cellphone numbers. They’ve attended religious services, dinners and teas, and spoken at community meetings. The FBI recently hosted an event for 500 young Muslims in Brooklyn to build trust and get to know federal law enforcement with a bomb-sniffing dog, scuba boat and helicopter on display.

“I go and visit mosques on a regular basis,” NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly told the AP, adding that he also holds question-and-answer sessions and planned to attend several dinners with members of the Muslim community during the holy month of Ramadan this year.

The police department in 2006 hired Sidique Wai, an African immigrant and member of the New York Muslim community, to coordinate the NYPD’s citywide community outreach program. He said the interaction and outreach between the community and police is unprecedented.

“The majority of the faith-based — particularly the Muslim leaders throughout the city — are absolutely appreciative of the unprecedented relationship with the police department,” Wai said. “I’m not aware of a deliberate effort on the part of NYPD to profile people.”

The former head of the FBI’s field office in New York said he was aggressive and deliberate in reaching out to Muslim communities.

“I know it helped it terms of community relations, a sense of openness and acceptance by the FBI of the community, tamping down the inclination to think they might be singled out or (the) focus of untoward scrutiny,” said Mark Mershon, who ran the office between 2005 and 2008 and is currently a Colorado-based private detective and investigative consultant.

Some Muslim community leaders in New York aren’t satisfied. They have complained about aggressive tactics the department uses to collect intelligence and about a video, “The Third Jihad,” shown earlier this year to some members of the NYPD during a training session. Kelly, the police commissioner, explained in a letter in March that the film was not part of the department’s training program and said it was shown in the background while members of the NYPD were filling out administrative paperwork before a training session.

The video includes images of terror attacks, Osama bin Laden and U.S. Muslim leaders praising the 2001 hijackers, news reports about terror plots and experts talking about the threat of radical Islam. Muslim leaders were outraged by the film because they said it was anti-Islam. [...]

Of course, they say that about any honest treatment of the motives and goals of jihad terrorists.

“There was a time when police would rush into the mosque with their boots on,” Mustapha Senghor, chairman of the Harlem Islamic Cultural Center, said during a July pre-Ramadan conference in New York. “They do not do that anymore. Congratulations, commissioner. For that we thank you, very much.”

“We love you, commissioner,” Senghor said. “You have imams who are extensions of the police force. You include us, you talk to us, you ask us what we are feeling. It makes us feel we are part of the city, and not that people are against us.”

Great. Now what is Mustapha Senghor doing, if anything, to make non-Muslims feel that Muslims aren't against them? Playing the victim game is not going to do the trick.

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“Are we partners, or are we a suspicious community?”

In plain English, for the purposes of the NYPD, you are a suspect community. It is true that you are also a suspicious community, but that is evident in how you treat us infidels.

AS long as their only allegiance is to Mo/allah, they are a suspect community. It is plain and simple. Until they stop this nonsense that we should not invade/attack any Muslim land inspite of attacks by Muslims on us and they won't fight a war that involves Muslims or they won't kill any Muslim jihadi, enemy, etc.. they will be treated as enemies. Don't they understand this simple concept? They are traitors if they don not support our constitution and this country which they don't because they pledge allegiance only to Mo/allah!!

"Some New York Muslims feel unfairly targeted,........"

Well, 'some' is a very small number! If the sentence had begun with 'more than a few', or, 'quite a few', or 'many', or, 'quite a lot' etc... then there might have been room for complaint.

But only 'some'. Well, that means the vast majority don't feel unfairly targeted, at all. In fact, they may feel fairly targeted! And so they should be .......targeted, I mean. :)

CAIR clowns!

CAIR & Muslims Against Truth run interference again for jihad and shari'a. I'm outraged that CAIR is assured of Eric Holder's Justice Department review; that legitamate counterterrorist efforts are scrutinized for the very benefit of those who want to stifle and scuttle them.

Make that, "legitimate," mates.

They support Constitutional protections for themselves, all the while cursing and despising this--or any other--Constitution framed by a Free People.

C.A.I.R. doesn't "care" if any or all of their fellow Islamic adherents are planning to kill infidels. Because to a muslim, spreading Islam by terrorizing the populace, is the time tested method sanctioned by ol' Moh. the pedophile pseudo prophet of Islam.

Wao!!

What a great black hole in the orbit of a society. Of course, it is a real black hole that these CAIR and companies, serendipitously, find themselves in a place where they enjoy the freedom to demand investigation upon the police department.

After all that have been exposed about Islam, and following what is happening around the Globe in the name of Islamic Religious violence. From the horn of Africa to United Kingdom. From Iran to New York; and from Pakistan to France; one can not be closer to good judgment than to conclude that the stupidity in all these unwarranted freedom to cover-up Islamic dream of domination and right of abused citizenship, is in the naivety of the custodians of the Law.

All Politicians in United States, most especially in the White House, and for all sheepish converts to Islam- (...eyes on Oil dollars; and for all media supporters of Sharia; Please, take this from the door of our prison:

"An honest politician is one who, when he is bought, will stay bought".
-Simon Cameron US financier & politician (1799 - 1889)

You have imams who are extensions of the police force.

Policing whom, and for what?

*** 33:21 ***

A question to axe acknowledged crook and Dept. of Justice Secretary Eric Holder: how are things coming with the Khalid Sheikh Mohammed felony trial? Things seem to be dragging here, and 3,000 daid Infidels is a lot. True, they were Infidels and not completely human, but steal...

"revealed that the NYPD has dispatched teams of undercover officers, known as “rakers,” into minority neighborhoods as part of a human mapping program, according to officials directly involved in the program."

What minority are they referring to? Harlem? Hassidic enclaves? What?


How come you're not out sloppin' them hogs at 10:19 a.m.? Already done for the day, or playing hooky? ;-)

Sorry - "hawgs"

“It seems to many of the leadership here, there are two kind of authorities they are playing — one is in the forefront which is very cooperative...and there is another authority, which is ... going against the First Amendment and the security of this country.” --selectively quoted from Zaheer Uddin of the Islamic Leadership Council of New York from the article above.

This very slightly abridged quote is interesting, I believe because it shows how the enemy seeks to blur the lines of the conflict. Only the portions specifically mentioning Moslems have been removed, so that the lines as presented above could be used --with good reason-- by anyone seeking to defend the US against jihad-inspired depredations. But they're not used in this way. These words are being used in a sense that is inside-out to the concern of the greater society surrounding the Moslem enclaves in the US.

The presumption of innocence for those accused of criminality is a keystone of justice in the US. But if the safety of the greater society is at stake, law enforcement agencies are permitted to be proactive in their monitoring of those elements in society from which the threat appears to originate. The Moslem community is also permitted to be proactive in establishing their loyalty. Playing the victim card doesn't quite cut it in that respect.

How come you're not out sloppin' them hogs...

Yesterday, after learning that the USDA decided to bust a move and go all Sharia with its halal ruling, in a fit of pique I abandoned my livestock to their own devices. But, being a secular humanist at heart, I left the pen gates cracked open so that they could stream into Hennepin County to forage for food.

*** 33:21 ***

Then this morning there I am in a hearing before the Minnesota Human Rights Commission. You know these guys, they're the ones who have teamed with the Mo-Bro-Hood to solve the growing problem of Islamophobia in this state.

Anyway, I showed up in the St. Paul hearing room wearing a white skullcap. It may have been in tasteless contast to my bib overalls, but when I announced my conversion to Islam that reely threw the Commissioners for a loop.

Not to brag or nothing like that, but my lawyer tells me that I can expect to go to trial here about the same time as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will in NYC.

Shaugn, you're just whacked! :-D

National Security and the peace and protection of citizens from a fate of violent death at the hands of the latest muslim yelling "alla akbar" trump muslim's "discomfort" from being looked at.
The insanity which has led currently to the thousands of lives lost and trillion’s of trasure spent on account of islam’s various encroachments upon the world must stop.
Stop their immigration, the boat is full. Stay in your islamic cesspools. Any adult muslim in this country is an enemy of the most fundamental principles which embody the ideals which have served for our peace and prosperity. They are my enemies. Choose islam or the US, it’s that simple.

Just who or what is CAIR trying to hide..

The further CAIr can throw a monkey wrench into this wonderful detective work in the proper Muslim settings, the quicker another Islamic zombie will kill New Yorkers en masse and the more Mohammed terror will enter the souls of Americans. It's all in a good days work by CAIR in bringing America to its knees and using the stooges like Eric Holder to enable their deed. When the blood is being wiped off New York streets you will hear them denounce the act in their canned MSM presentation. Such a stale, sick act from an enemy organization.

Not all muslims are terrorists! Not all muslims are terrorists!

Of course, there is nothing in Islam that prohibits Muslims from becoming terrorists in the name of Allah. (and lots of encouragement to become terrorists)

From the article:

"NYPD has dispatched teams of undercover officers, known as “rakers,” into minority neighborhoods as part of a human mapping program, according to officials directly involved in the program.

"They’ve monitored daily life in bookstores, bars, cafes and nightclubs.

{Note: this is called 'classic beat policing'...keeping your boots and your ear to the ground, getting the feel of a neighbourhood, getting to know it from the ground up so that those special antennae any good cop possesses can feel when "something's up" - dda}

Police have also used informants, known as “mosque crawlers,” to monitor sermons, even when there’s no evidence of wrongdoing.

{again: getting the 'feel' of the neighbourhood - dda}

"NYPD officials have scrutinized imams

{jolly good - SOMEONE is exercising basic common sense - dda}

and gathered intelligence on cab drivers and food cart vendors, jobs often done by Muslims.

{Again, this is Policing 101 - dda}

The NYPD denied that it trolls ethnic neighborhoods and said it only follows leads."

In other words: the legacy of James Q Wilson and George Kelling, founders of the Broken Windows theory, and of David Gunn who applied that theory to clean up the New York subway system from the mid-1980s, and finally, most importantly, of William Bratton, lives on in the NYPD.

(To see how Gunn and Bratton sorted out the subways and then sorted out NYC, check out the lively and readable summary in Malcolm Gladwell's 'Tipping Point', pp. 140-146.

At some level, consciously or unconsciously, the NYPD, having been trained by Bratton, *knows* that the Muslim Ummah represents a potential danger. They know exactly how many Muslims they are catching for various kinds of 'minor offences' (traffic violations, etc) and even if they aren't keeping statistics they have probably gotten the sense that Muslims - whether born-Muslims or deluded white, black or hispanic converts - don't, at bottom, respect non-Muslim law. And I wouldn't mind betting they've begun to get a sense of the extent to which Muslims routinely employ deception in dealings with non-Muslims.

I would encourage NYC jihadwatchers to write to the head of the NYPD: quote the portion of the article that I've just quoted and commented on, and thank him and his men for doing their job exactly the way it ought to be done.

You might like to throw in, for good measure, two classic articles by Mr Raymond Ibrahim's on the subject of Islamic deception:

http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war

How Taqiyya Alters Islam's Rules of War

and

http://www.meforum.org/2066/war-and-peace-and-deceit-in-islam

'War and Peace - and Deceit - in Islam'.


CAIR's Know Your Rights is a doubled-edged sword.

If I understand Mr.hooper, he wants me to know that if I hear of ANY bomb plot to a Mosque or mass-murder of muslims...i have the RIGHT to not tell the FBI .

Thanks for the tip Dougie, all these years I did not know I could allow mosques to be bombed and not be complicit if I stay mute and nobody can prove I knew anything.
In fact, if i see an assault to a muslim i have the RIGHT to walk away and use the Sgt.Schultz excuse I saw nothing.

"Some New York Muslims feel unfairly targeted". Well some New York non Muslims felt unfairly targeted on 9/11...

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