Here is the Aga Khan/Rick Perry curriculum: Scrubbed from the web, cache scrubbed from Google Search

One of the oddest and most telling aspects of this Rick Perry/Aga Khan curriculum controversy is that when Pamela Geller and I started writing about the curriculum, it was scrubbed from the web. Now it has been scrubbed from the Google cache, as I noted here. This is highly suspicious, and gives the lie to those who claim that the curriculum material was actually innocuous, or that we weren't actually discussing the actual curriculum material, or that we were discussing curriculum material that was only used by a few Texas teachers at best. Clearly we had the right stuff, and clearly it was bad, and clearly Perry's people knew it was bad, and that is why it is gone now.

But Pamela Geller has screenshots of it all, as well as the full text, here.

When Geller and I first started criticizing the Rick Perry/Aga Khan curriculum on Islam for Texas schools, the response was furious, and primarily focused on two claims.

First, defenders of Perry such as David Stein and Ace of the Ace of Spades blog claimed that what we had wasn't the curriculum at all, and presented what they said was actually the curriculum. This turned out to be false, as I explained here: they were presenting one teacher's lesson plan as the official curriculum, while what we were presenting was actually the official material, developed by the Aga Khan Foundation (AKF) and UT-Austin in a partnership known as the Muslim Histories and Cultures Program (MHC) and proudly announcing that it was the fruit of "Governor Rick Perry's desire to better educate Texas teachers on Muslim topics." It also says that "Governor Perry was instrumental in getting this program off the ground."

Neither Stein nor Ace nor any of those who have echoed their false claims have ever admitted that they were not working from the actual curriculum, and passing off as the official curriculum something that was not remotely that.

Second, as my old friend Bryan Preston claims here, many asserted that the curriculum -- the real one, that we presented -- wasn't so bad anyway, or as Bryan says, "I don’t think it’s a dawah." Preston also downplays the connection of Rick Perry to the curriculum, which I have shown in the quotes above. Dawah is Islamic proselytizing, and it takes many forms. In Methodology of Dawah by Shamim A. Siddiqi, a book that is designed to teach Muslims how to convert people to Islam, Siddiqi tells Muslims to present Islam in a "concocted or abbreviated form" and only introduce them to "the revolutionary aspect of Islam" after they convert.

Concocted = made up. Abbreviated = things are cut out. And that is just what the Perry/Aga Khan curriculum does: it presents a fantasy benign Islam, with all the violent and oppressive bits cut out. Here are some of the elements of the program that show it to be a whitewash of Islam:

Session One

  • The main reading is from Carl Ernst’s Following Muhammad, the first three chapters. This book whitewashes Muhammad, saying that he “was, by all accounts, a charismatic person known for his integrity” (p. 85). Muhammad’s exhortations to make war against unbelievers, his multiple marriages and child marriage, and other negative aspects of his biography are explained away or ignored entirely. 
  • The curriculum directs participants to “consider Carl Ernst’s statement, ‘It is safe to say that no religion has such a negative image in Western eyes as Islam.’” Then it asks them: “Why is this so? How have political and economic relationships between the Middle East and Western Europe and the United States impacted perceptions of Islam, in the past and the present? How have they impacted perceptions of the ‘West’ among Muslims?” Note that participants are guided to see the “negative image” of Islam as the result of “political and economic relationships between the Middle East and Western Europe and the United States.” No hint is given of the possibility that Islam might have a “negative image” in the West because of jihad conquests, institutionalized oppression of women and non-Muslims, and the like.
  • The curriculum quotes Edward Said, who ascribed all critical discussion of Islamic jihad and Islamic supremacism to racism and neo-colonialism, as warning that one should speak of “Islams rather than Islam,” and warns that in dealing with Islam “one has entered an astoundingly complicated world.” This invocation of Islam’s complexity is frequently used to discourage those who point to the Qur’an’s violent passages and Muhammad’s exhortations to warfare as evidence of Islam’s bellicose intentions. Yet Islamic jihadists routinely refer to this material with no hesitation based on Islam’s “complexity.”

Session Two

  • Readings for the session entitled “Muhammad through History” include Celebrating Muhammad: Images of the Prophet in Popular Muslim Poetry and The Miraculous Journey of Mahomet. It notes, correctly, that “for millions of Muslims around the world, the Prophet Muhammad has become the paradigm, or role model, who is worthy of being emulated.” However, there is no hint whatsoever of how Muhammad, as a model to be emulated, has inspired jihad warriors and terrorists.
  • The common Islamic apologetic claim that Islam inspired all the greatest achievements of Western Judeo-Christian civilization appears in the assertion that “there is strong evidence to suggest that Muslim poetic accounts of the mi’raj, reaching Europe through the Arab courts in medieval Spain, inspired the Italian writer Dante to compose his famous work, The Divine Comedy.” No mention is made of how Dante placed Muhammad in hell as a false prophet.

Session Three

  • This session on the Qur’an makes no mention whatsoever of the elements of the Qur’an that exhort Muslims to hate unbelievers and make war against them (98:6; 48:29; 47:4; 2:191; 4:89; 9:5; 9:29: 9:123; etc.) The text used is Michael Sells’s Approaching the Qur’an: The Early Revelations, which doesn’t even include the sections of the Qur’an that most directly and emphatically call for violence against non-Muslims.
  • The curriculum makes sure to point out that “believers point to this very perfection of the text as the proof of the prophethood of Muhammad,” and that “for many, the notion that the Qur’an is inimitable, that is, no human could possibly have produced anything so perfect, proves that it had to be God who revealed this message to Muhammad.” But it makes no mention of the text’s designation of non-believers as “the most vile of created beings” (98:6), the warlike passages noted above; its call to beat disobedient women (4:34) and the like.

Session Four

  • This second session on the Qur’an tells participants to “discuss the role of the Qur’an in providing direction for an ethical life.” Here again, no mention is made of the ways in which Islamic jihadists use the Qur’an’s teachings to justify violence against and the subjugation of unbelievers.
  • The curriculum lists eight central themes of the Qur’an. Although there are well over 100 Qur’an verses exhorting believers to jihad warfare, jihad does not make the list.

Session Five

  • This session on the Sunni/Shi’ite split and other sects in Islam fails to mention one salient point: Islamic law calls for the execution of heretics and apostates; this law has been the foundation for an extraordinary amount of bloodshed between adherents of various Muslim sects throughout history and today.

Session Six

  • This session dismisses as a “misconception” the idea that “Islam forbids music and representational art.” It does not explain why so many Muslims, including the Taliban who destroyed the Bamiyan Buddhas, came to hold this “misconception.”

Session Seven

  • Participants are asked, “What conditions in Baghdad encouraged such a vast array of discoveries and inventions?” But the readings give no hint of the fact that Jews and Christians in Baghdad actually accounted for the great majority of these inventions. See here for a full explanation.
  • Participants are also asked: “Why was there such an abundance of inventions and discoveries attributed to Muslims in Medieval times but not today?” This question guides students toward a discussion of the trumped-up and manipulative modern concept of “Islamophobia.”
  • The curriculum states: “The religion that the Prophet Muhammad preached provided his followers an ethical and moral vision for leading a life of righteousness.” Again, no mention is made of Muhammad’s exhortations to hate and violence, his child marriage (which many Muslims consider exemplary behavior and imitate it), and the like.
  • The curriculum states: “Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians, who were subjects of new Arab rulers, could maintain their religious practices provided they paid jizya, a tax in tribute in lieu of military service.” It gives no hint of the institutionalized discrimination and humiliation that this dhimmi status involved.
  • The curriculum quotes Maria Rosa Menocal, the modern scholar most responsible for the myth of a tolerant, pluralistic Muslim Spain. It also discusses this tolerant Muslim Spain as a fact. In reality, however, Jews and Christians had a humiliating second-class status in Muslim Spain. When one Muslim ruler appointed a Jew as a local governor in Granada in 1066, the Muslims rioted and murdered four thousand Jews. The curriculum doesn’t mention any of that.

Session Eight

  • The readings for this session again include Carl Ernst’s Following Muhammad, as well as John Esposito’s The Straight Path. Both are highly apologetic, one-sided works that give the reader little idea why Muslims would wage jihad or commit violence in the name of Islam. No works of other perspectives are included.
  • The curriculum blames the restriction of rights of Muslim women on European colonialism, ignoring the many Islamic texts and teachings that restrict women’s rights.

Session Nine

  • The participants are again directed to read Carl Ernst and John Esposito, as well as another modern-day non-Muslim Islamic apologist, Charles Kurzman. No works of differing perspectives are presented.

Don't believe me? Fine. Examine the material for yourself here.

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There are several posters on JW who will have to eat their words! Perry has been extremely naive, at best!

This is straight forward leftist/liberal propaganda as well (note the attacks on European imperialism), which figures as it's being taught in a university I assume. What on earth is Perry doing advocating such blatant pro-Islamic rubbish AND leftist accounts of history? This isn't just a whitewash of Islamic history and a program of creating myths - it's also a leftist piece of work as well. Note carefully some of the themes.

Perry seems to be both naive and ignorant - and a pawn in this case.

It's not Rick Perry that people need for the nomination, it's Katy - an understandable mixup - I do it all the time.

Thanks Robert for identifying this situation and making us all aware that this material has been compiled and used in a public education setting. I live in a jurisdiction with a large number of the Aga Khan's followers, and wouldn't be surprised if this same set of materials (or a localized variant of it) isn't being referenced for what is being presented to my own children in the public school system. However, now being forewarned, I will be able to provide my children with some key questions to ask, should they find themselves presented with these lessons, so their teachers and their fellow students will become aware of some of the more "sensitive" aspects of these topics.

I notice the student is not encouraged to read Quran and come to their own conclusion...This is brain washing, pure and simple...If Perry goes for that, what else would he go for as POTUS?

Unfortunately it does not seem likely Perry will be asked any tough questions in relation Islam and the jihad, so long as we have this growing cadre of conservative Perry-defenders coming to the fore including, David Stein, Bryan Preston, Erick Erickson and sadly Daniel Pipes, Frank Gaffney, etc. I understand the passion inherent in Obama's defeat November 2012 - I share that passion - but at what cost?

Anyone who aligns him/herself with Islamists in order to advance their political career does not have America's best interest in their heart. They're cheap dhimmis. There are plenty of Conservative candidates to choose from who would never, ever, do that. It is a fatal flaw and freedom fighters that ignore that flaw betray themselves, and the cause of freedom.

A history of the U.S.A. that did not include a discussion of slavery would rightly be regarded as a whitewash, to say the least. The Perry/Aga Khan curriculum has a supposed history of Islam that does not include discussion of slavery. It's a whitewash. And what is does include is standard apologetic pro-Islamic fare. It is indistinguishable from da'wa. It also conforms to Islamic law, in that Islam, Muhammad, and "Allah" are never subject to critical scrutiny.

I see no evidence that Perry is anything other than naive and stupid. Again, notice the clear leftist agenda there, i.e "the white man" is to blame for every ill in the world. That's text book teaching at many unis. Why would Perry personally oversee something that advocated leftist propaganda? Stupidity and ignorance (in both senses) can be the only answer - not complicity.

Mr Perry could have a problem if his opponents pursue his questionable support for this material...but they won't...probably because they don't know squat about Islam either...

Just what we need: Another Islam-is-the-religion-of-peace nudnik from Texas. Yahooooooooo!

At what point does stupidity and ignorance become complicity? Can the leader of the free world afford to be stupid and ignorant. My first reaction to Politico's (Jonathan Martin's) lead story yesterday, "Is Rick Perry Dumb?" was, this is a pretty dumb question.

You are saying Martin is right. Perry is indeed dumb.

This was written to ancient Israel by the prophet Isaiah. Maybe it applies to the U.S. today.

Isa 56:9 All you beasts of the field, come to devour, All you beasts in the forest.

His watchmen [are] blind, They are all ignorant; They [are] all dumb dogs, They cannot bark; Sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.

Isa 56:11 Yes, [they are] greedy dogs [Which] never have enough. And they [are] shepherds Who cannot understand; They all look to their own way, Every one for his own gain, From his [own] territory.

Politicians are motivated by votes. Media executives are motivated by ratings. And the average voting citizen of the good 'ol existential materialist USA is motivated by trying to keep his/her mortgage paid and getting the kids through school in a stagnant economy. Until it decides to get a Koran and study it, the American electorate will to listen to whichever "expert" they are the most "comfortable" with. 9/11 was not sufficient to move us from Chamberlain to Churchill, and I'm afraid this religious duplicity isn't gonna register with Joe Sixpack either. Hope I'm wrong.

I was shocked to see Daniel Pipes diss Geller and defend Perry.

Oh, I get it now, Textbooks - any of the problems with Islam? IT'S ALL EUROPE'S FAULT! Oh, I bet I get an A on my test now, right?

And that's taquiyya, taquiyya and taquiyya. If it advances the cause of Islam, it is halal. If governor Perry is a willing accomplice to this, he would pursue a foreign policy not that different than from our last two dhimmi presidents.

The next president has to be a candidate that is truly aware of the threat of Islam.

If Americans go for Perry in 2012 like they did for Obama in 2008, they will simply prove once again - "fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me!"

Robert,

You have failed to address the following:

SAISD is one of over 1000 Independent School Districts in Texas. What about the other 1000 or so?

The State Board of Education is run by 1 appointed official (chair) and 15 elected officials who vote on CORE curriculum.

In Sept. of 2010 the State Board did rule out utilizing some of the muzzie stuff. There also was an election in 2010 which purged the State Legislature of MANY liberals and is now 2/3 GOP. The State Legislature set new curriculum for the upcoming year.

The "cached" info FOR ONE QUITE LIBERAL INNER CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT out of over 1000 had to change the curriculum, due state law between end of the 2010/2011 school year and for the 2011/2012 school year and would have been deleted old info.

How much is Ed Rollins paying you people? Without addressing questions posted of you over and over. IT BEGS THE QUESTION.

You may well be on some sort of scent, but obviously barking up the wrong tree and completely unwilling to admit it.

I'm done with Jihad Watch as you have totally discredited your previous excellent work.

I may be back to lurk from time to time, but until you address the questions posed of you and your partner Geller sufficiently. You are not credible.

Until that time http://thearmyyouhave.com/The_Army_You_Have/Retracto_files/Retracto%20the%20Correction%20Alpaca.mp3

Millions of Americans will vote for Perry if he is the nominee -- irrespective of his Muslim-outreach -- even those who swore they would never vote for the lesser of the evils. Americans will vote for the Republican nominee because of the economy among other reasons.

I noticed the absence of any mention of slavery, too, Kinana of Khaybar. Very damning.

One would think that by now it should have occurred to Rick Perry (and Michele Bachmann, and Mitt Romney, and Sarah Palin, and hopeless Ron Paul) that they need to spend some quality time investigating the history of Islam, with particular attention paid to its supremacist claims.

Although knowing something about Islam's theological stance is necessary, especially its claims relative to other religions, more urgently needed in order to assess this curriculum is a clear understanding of the distortions of history advanced as truth by its apologists. As with all Muslim's (I have yet to see a counterexample), the Aga Khan exaggerates Islam's positive contributions to the affairs of the world and whitewashes its destructiveness.

Robert, thank you for keeping this story alive. It's one that needs a thorough airing. Care to share with us exactly how you managed to retrieve the curriculum from the online black hole into which it had been thrown?

Well researched and well said, Robert.

My original thought when this came out was that it was ill-advised for Pamela to make an issue of it. I was wrong.

Thanks for your leadership.

And similar taqiyya is being taught to kuffar kids EVERYWHERE that these creeps are allowed to infiltrate the educational system: http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/islamic-infiltration-and-subversion-of.html

The ultimative dhimmi's dimmi (9:29) Rick Perry

9:29 "Fight those who do not believe in Allah"
offensive jihad 'talab', last Medina jihadi verse


Quran teachings don’t parallel Bible teachings

...And when judgment day arrives, Allah will give every Muslim a Jew or a Christian to kill. In the Quran 9:111, when a Muslim kills a non-Muslim, they get to go to heaven....

So for now there are no Muslims in heaven yet. That is why they're in such a rush to build nuclear arms, to wipe out non-Muslims en masse.

Conservative Christians are among the best informed about Islam. A few weeks back, I watched a critical leftist expose on the American Family Association (AFA), the group that sponsored Perry's public prayer event. Leaders like Pastor John Hagee (Christians United For Israel) understand the threat I think.

When we get a Republican in the White House, they lose their moral bearings; they put their blinders on. During the early part of Bush's second term, I was put in touch with Pastor John Hagee's aid. Roy I think. Roy asked for and I presented Hagee with a formal resolution that CUFI might endorse at their annual Washington meeting and then send to President Bush and Republican leaders, concerning Bush's support of a Muslim state in Israel's heartland. Hagee declined.

Gary Bauer (Executive Board member, CUFI / President American Values) told me, some CUFI officers would support such a resolution challenging President Bush; other officers would not support it.

Little doubt a similar resolution questioning Bush's (and Perry's) misleading public statements on Islam would get a similar cold reception.

I suspect that is what we will see with a President Perry for the most part; a white wash ('circling the wagons') on the part of the right like we saw throughout the Bush years.

I imagine Perry Praying that "Islam means peace" five times a day http://bit.ly/obAum2

OT

Father slit throats of three daughters in 'honour killing' after they were raped by Gaddafi's troops

Human rights group uncovers widespread war crimes by loyalist forces

Investigators told children perched on top of tanks as human shields

Soldiers 'set up rape camp at school where dead sisters were attacked'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2031710/Libya-Father-slit-throats-girls-raped-Gaddafis-men.html#ixzz1WX6ZYQXT

Many thanks for pointing out just how Muslims try to slip in their indoctrination...inch by inch...death by a thousand cuts..

Today one school district, tomorrow two...later three...it is good to be aware to what is really going on and just whom is promoting it.

You're a clown and a dhimwit!

Thank you Roberts for a wonderful job.

"All scholars are researchers that excel from shared information; but only good researchers share the fruits of their scholarship".

-infidels and broters.

Oh, boy, what a disaster our American democracy is. Every election, owr American voters swiftly reduce themselves to their usual choices: dumb or dumber, dumber or dumberer, dumberer or dumbest, dumbest or "dumbestest", bad or worse, worse or worst, worst or "worstsest" . . . . Reflects on the voters themselves ... . Knowing how to manipulate the American herd, Perry held a mass Christian prayer "for America", cavalierly disregarding the American Constitution and the separation of church and state. And, all too predictably, it worked. The herd flocked to him. Perry, who pals with Islamists Grover Norquist and Aga Khan, had easily manipulated the herd through Christian prayer, knowing that Christian Talibanism appeals to them more than their Constitution.
To think that the great Rudy Giuliani was available to us just 3 years ago ... . It took the Republican primary voters only 10 days to get rid of him. What a catastrophe our American voters are. A catastrophe unto themselves.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

Islam is the only 'Mythological tale at moon light' that it is a crime to laugh during or after the tale.

-infidels and brothers.

"I suspect that is what we will see with a President Perry for the most part; a white wash ('circling the wagons') on the part of the right like we saw throughout the Bush years."

I suspect you are right, and I agree with you that Conservative Christians have a better than average understanding of Islam compared to others. But the real question is whether Perry (or Bachmann et al.) personally understands the Islamic agenda at a deep enough level to recognize and block Islamic da'wa at whatever level it might appear; in other words, can he personally detect b*llsh*t when it is presented to him, no matter how much polish or perfume or chocolate sprinkles is applied to it.

It would be good if Perry could evince some understanding of Islam that goes beyond mere repetition of campaign talking points provided by clueless advisers whose calculus is based solely on vote counting but is otherwise bereft of principles. To demonstrate an understanding of American history, Perry could, for example, expound on the war with the Barbary Pirates, the real story behind Jefferson's acquisition of a Qu'ran explicitly contrasting this with the fiction advanced by CAIR, and how this first war with Islam more than 200 years ago (and before we "occupied" anything) provided the crucible in which the U.S. Navy was formed. He could also talk about Islam's onslaught on the Christian (and Hindu) worlds for centuries before the New World was even discovered. In fact, it was precisely because of Islamic control of the Silk Road following the fall of Constantinople in 1453 that was behind Columbus's (1492) and Vasco de Gama's (1497) searches for alternate routes to the Far East, so as to bypass the Muslims.

There are many topics Perry could talk about to demonstrate emphatically that he actually knows something about Islam, facts that run counter to Leftist or Islamic narrative and whitewashing, but which will be recognized and welcomed by patriots everywhere.

We're waiting, Rick.

@ Robert "No hint is given of the possibility that Islam might have a “negative image” in the West because of jihad conquests, institutionalized oppression of women and non-Muslims, and the like."

Yes all that what you have written about the curriculum which we are teaching our kids is a shocker. In short nothing but the Islamic lies about Islam.

But why dont your write directly to Perry? In form him of his mistake and ask for a response, in an informational and not a confrontational way?

After all the purpose is to correct mistakes, not to score points and say I was right and you were wrong.

If Perry has removed that stuff from the net maybe he realises his mistake?

A person who is not dogmatic and can learn from his mistakes is a valuable person.

-It is not pessimistic to say that Islam is winning.

This is not a push to surrender; but a call for genuine and intellectual confrontation.

Unfortunately, it is a global cloudy-day for all free people.

This is easy to see, when we compare the number of elites in the United States, carrying water for Islam, to the number of people of Islamic and Arab ecological background - advocating for genuine Democracy.

"But the real question is whether Perry (or Bachmann et al.) personally understands the Islamic agenda at a deep enough level to recognize and block Islamic da'wa at whatever level it might appear; in other words, can he personally detect b*llsh*t when it is presented to him, no matter how much polish or perfume or chocolate sprinkles is applied to it."

Its not rocket science. The deception and the threats to our freedoms are those a child would use and thus so astounding and difficult to accept by many, who are not used to these deceptions and lies in our daily lives.

Information, education, evidence must be given not only to our kids but also to our leaders.

"But why don't you write directly to Perry? In form him of his mistake and ask for a response, in an informational and not a confrontational way?....If Perry has removed that stuff from the net maybe he realises his mistake?"

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You don't think Governor Perry and his people are apprised of this controversy? If our central Florida radio host picked it up last week, Perry hasn't? Someone took the MHC curriculum off line. Why? Maybe the 'mistake' was put it up there in the first instance.

Also remember these guys are political. They may understand many things but may not be able to be as blunt as Robert Spencer. Their political intelligence is high. If the Islamists conceal their true feelings in order to promote their vile agenda, then the people who oppose them and fight for our freedoms should be allowed to do the same to attain victory.

Governor Perry's devised a brilliant "strategery" to make it appear he and Aga Kahn are indoctrinating Texas children when nothing could be further from the truth?

Maybe wildjew Governor Perry didnt realise what he had been conned into and now he does?

You are assuming that Governor Perry's colluded with the Aga Khan and devised a brilliant "strategery" to indoctrinate Texas children into accepting Islam.

I do not accept that wildjew. To believe that is equivalent to believing 9/11 conspiracy theories or the lies of Islam

From the "waste of precious reading-time department." Perry might better spend his time reading, The Truth About Muhammad:Founder of the World's Most Intolerant Religion."


Rick Perry Is Reading a Book About Converting Jews, Muslims

8/29/11 at 5:00 PM 115Comments.

"...one of the books the Texas governor says he's reading lately, Charles Stanley's Turning the Tide, sounds a bit extreme. Although it's described by Politico as "a Baptist pastor's how-to for Christian conservatives who want to change the country's direction," some choice excerpts from the actual words inside reveal "change the country's direction" to be something of a euphemism for "convert all Jews and Muslims because they are heathens."

...The New Yorker's Ryan Lizza, who recently detailed Michele Bachmann's own penchant for batty religious writings, tweeted some additional excerpts from the Stanley book, including "pray that Jews worldwide will accept Him as their Savior," and, "May the people of Israel acknowledge their guilt, seek Your face, and accept Your Son -- the Messiah."

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/08/rick_perry_is_reading_a_book_a.html

I did a quick google search and ended up with a slew of results on the controversy surrounding the pro-Islamic bias in Texas schoolbooks. Here's one of them:

http://tinyurl.com/3oyk3ez

In 2010, the Texas State Board of Education passed a resolution that would reject books with a pro-Islamic slant. From the articles I read, it wasn't clear if any of the textbooks in question included material developed by the Muslim Histories and Cultures project set up by the Aggie Khan- one of the books in was in use from 1999-2003, which predated the Khan's program- nevertheless, this lends credence to the concerns raised by Geller and Spencer over what the Khan was up to.

At this point, I would think that Perry's defenders would admit that his venture with Aga Khan and the Muslim Histories project would at least rise to the level of "boneheaded". But the question we should all be asking is this:

What if Rick Perry still stands by the venture? What if he thinks it was a great first step at "Islamic outreach" and as President, would institute similar policies at the Federal level?

I think it's time for Ace and the others to put down their tennis rackets and start demanding answers from the Perry camp. This episode as it stands now doesn't appear to be enough to tank Perry's chances at the nomination, but how he responds to it just might.

The notion that some "religious highness” makes a deal with a public official anywhere in the USA to educate, in this case indoctrinate, even a single teacher for any purpose whatsoever alone would be considered a mistake. More atrociously, when you read the specific curriculum in question , an un-objective, non-critical and defunct account and glorification of islam, this misstep blooms into a catastrophic decision made by a public official.
I still hold hope that Perry somehow blundered on this one in a way that reflects something other than a dangerously deficient understanding of islam’s war of deceit and the myriad aspects of the encroaching jihad in our midst, something the West cannot afford anymore, any longer.

At this point, I would think that Perry's defenders would admit that his venture with Aga Khan and the Muslim Histories project would at least rise to the level of "boneheaded".

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I don't think David Stein or his allies are backing down any time soon. I see another piece posted just yesterday on Stein's CounterContempt site, swearing (or he hopes) it will be his last.

Stein: "Okay, I promised I wouldn't devote any more time to Pam Geller’s completely false claim that Rick Perry forced Texas public schools to use a “pro-Sharia” curriculum. But there’s something about being called a “no-name asshat” that makes a man want to take to his keyboard...."

Probably best to dispense with the name-calling on both sides.

I should talk!

"Christian Talibanism"

What? What is that? There's no such thing! How absurd!

Now you just inundate me with your vile verbal abuse, to be expected.





President Barack Obama. Favorable view Photo: Pete Sauza, White House





Barack and Michel Obama with Indonesian imam Photo: AP





Mosque at Ground Zero Photo: Reuters

OT: Reuters

Poll: Most American Muslims satisfied with Obama

Survey shows majority of US Muslims feel ordinary Americans are friendly or neutral towards them; seven out of 10 view Barack Obama's tenure favorably

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4115732,00.html


Reuters

This Rick Perry character has been in the race for two and a half weeks and he's already doing Obama level internet scrubbings and attempts to hide his associations. Remarkable.

I guess this is neither here nor there but then again..... GOOD GRIEF!

Rick Perry’s camp defends 1993 HillaryCare praise
Published: 12:28 PM 08/30/2011 | Updated: 4:00 PM 08/30/2011

Texas Governor Rick Perry has been among the most vocal critics of President Obama’s health care reform initiative, and of Mitt Romney’s preceding health care program in Massachusetts. But in 1993, while serving as Texas Agriculture Commissioner, Perry praised the efforts of then-first lady Hillary Clinton to reform health care, a precursor to Obama’s health care reform efforts.

In a letter to Clinton, who is now U.S. Secretary of State, Perry wrote: “I think your efforts in trying to reform the nation’s health care system are most commendable.”

The plan Clinton’s task force ultimately presented called for universal health care along with a federal mandate for employers to provide health insurance for their employees.....

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/30/rick-perrys-camp-defends-1993-hillarycare-praise/#ixzz1WXvPb5EJ


And I wanted info, WOW!

Thanks to Robert and JW for shining a very bright light on this. The ball has been served to the others who support Perry, they must respond with details, point for point.

Otherwise, they are just hacks, blindly following and supporting anybody without question. This is about leadership, and this great country, not political position or favor.

If Perry thinks it was a mistake, he MUST say so, in no uncertian terms, not just hide and cover up the facts. No responce is a answer, one that will be remembered.

Well done Robert, now the points must be answered.

Where is Andrew C. McCarthy on the Rick Perry / Aga Khan saga?

Has McCarthy weighed in?

The last McCarthy piece I read was "Losing Malmo."

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/275686/losing-malmo-andrew-c-mccarthy?page=2

I know this is not the proper forum for this comment.....
Perry was willing to shove gardasil down the throats of our Texas' young girls.......AND FOR WHAT?........Someone has got to get to the bottom of this. Follow the money trail. Why did he want to buy all those vacines? Follow the money trail. Why would he risk those little girls' lives?........Follow the money trail.......I pray i don't have to vote for this clown.

Are you a conservative? Who do you support?

If it were true that would be great, Rich, but what evidence do you have that they are actually that smart? To assume they are would be to put one's trust in them more than I, for one and probably others here, would want to do. Transparency is a better solution, and this is what Robert and Pamela are providing in exposing this effort at Islamic da'wa being foisted on innocent children.

Perry could, at a minimum, issue a statement distancing himself from the curriculum, which would help disengage his tail from the crack he managed to get it caught in. But words alone will not be enough. The only test that really counts is actions, and by this test Perry has deservedly received a very low grade. He's still governor of Texas, so he could go a long way toward redeeming himself by creating a curriculum committee explicitly to critically review this controversial document, making sure that there are members on the committee who are knowledgeable about real history, not just Muslims' self-serving view of their own glorious history and inventor of all things (Robert could undoubtedly make recommendations), and to let it be known that he is taking a personal interest in the matter.

Ruslan, the "American Constitution's separation of church and state" is actually a discovery of the Supreme Court back in the 1960's. The Constitution itself states that Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof (Amendment I). The phrase "separation of church and state" comes from a letter which Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Association.

Before the 1830's, the US Constitution coexisted with state-level religious establishments and religious tests for state office.

Just a little-appreciated factoid on US history.

My last post on Jihad Watch.

I have been registered with JW for years. Additionally, I have posted in the past, but not in the past couple of years. Mostly, I have posted regarding erroneous misconceptions regarding Iraq and oil. Yes there have been very few posts by me.

Robert, my point is that certainly, Perry should be looked at regarding his statement and request to bring others into the conversation to create a better understanding of Islam, and in particular via the eyes of the sect which is headed by Aga Khan.

The idea that Perry has any power over the school system and curriculum (or ANY governor of Texas since it's present state constitution has been in effect) is one born of ignorance of Texas PERIOD. His only power is to appoint the head of the State Board of Education who has no power

In fact, in most regards, the Lt. Gov. has more power than the governor, and even the Speaker of the House. Of course, he does have a little influence on supporting and lobbying for legislation. However, the Texas Legislature, has MUCH more power than the governor.

Sure, he started a discussion and invited the head of UT-Austin to participate, but that is the sum total of the power he has to both develop and install such a program.

Now you can see why those who actually understand the political structure, in Texas, are not terribly alarmed by this.

BTW, I would be more concerned about articles in this link http://www.masterresource.org/2011/08/rick-perrys-7-billion-problem/ and others from my friend who is no fan of Perry.

As far as Geller, she jumped in head first trying to get some scoops regarding the BP Macondo Spill last year. She was not a lone ranger in "conservative" bloggers who bought a lot of b.s. hook line and sinker. To be sure, Zero, could have performed better, but Obama Derangement Syndrome caused many to ignore many of the real legal aspects and what was actually going on with the spill clean up by Foreign Flagged Vessels such as the Dutch owned Semi-Submersible Heavylift Vessel "Mighty Servant 3" which sailed for Galveston and was outfitted with open sea skimmers and out cleaning up the spill.

As far as Ace of Spades, I do not go to that site since he made wild claims about Michael Yon. If Geller does not want her breasts to be referred to then maybe she should not try to present herself as some sort of sex symbol. True that it was poor form of Ace (or whatever his real name is) to be crude, but I gotta say that Vlogging with a bikini and having the "busty" superwoman avatar sure seems the want to at a minimum get crude males thinking in that manner.

Did you ever post the reply to your article with Stein's comments on it?

Did you ever answer the questions regarding Texas, it's education system, the role of the legislature in curriculum, and changes affected during the last year? Did Geller after her glowing report from Sept of 2010? Did you investigate any further than uber liberal SAISD? Now you are trying to insinuate that you intellectually honest?

See that is a huge problem for me, that you/Geller, don't seem to want to broaden the net and investigate other aspects of this. You want to place the entire load on Perry, at least that is how all of these articles are presented. That is not vetting, that is a hit job smear. I know about how these things work, as I did work (as a volunteer) in a congressional campaign in 2008. To be specific, Bill Cassidy for Congress, was the campaign. In fact, what I mostly did was knock on doors between the hours of 5PM and 7:30PM weekdays and Saturday from mid morning until mid afternoon. I can tell you that the largest concentration of families with their progeny serving in the Theater of War in the Middle East are from professional (doctors, lawyers and LSU administration) neighborhoods. They were also the neighborhoods with the highest concentration of Mezzuzahs (sic?) but not because they were Jewish but because most belong to a non-denominational church at either of two locations (which my now congressman is a member) and who hold Hebrew Tradition in very high honor and regard. I can also report that the only neighborhoods in the Baton Rouge area where someone working for a GOP candidate need fear is where academics reside. I was treated with respect in "the hood" but only where professors are in high concentration was I yelled at and spit at (while safely hiding behind his 3rd grade son and me 20 feet away).

The truth about me and any support of Perry is that in early May when a good longtime personal friend told me that Perry was running and that he was supporting him, my attention was caught. As I began investigating, on my own all the claims (which I had previously believed) against Perry were actually trumped up or completely overhyped.

When I look at a chemical plant or refinery for sale, I much prefer to see the material and energy balance sheets as well as the Process Flow Diagrams (PFD's) rather than take someones word that it can make so much per day of x products. The only information seemed to be found on Perry so far is that he is friends with the Aga Khan and that he started a discussion. Speaking in terms of a refinery, you have not told me the source and type of crude oil and how it gets to what products. Is it configured to make maximum naphtha to be used as feedstock for an ethylene cracker with gasoline and diesel as by products, can it process only light sweet crude oil or can it process heavy crude? You've only stated that it is a refinery and that it's stated capacity is x amount of barrels per day. That doesn't mean anything at all to sale of a refinery and you have not sold me on Perry being a "stealth Jihadist" or a "dhimmi" What you have shown is that we need to investigate more. If he is one of the two, he will not address it. If he is not, he likely will not see the need, at this point. Readers of Jihad Watch and Atlas Shrugs are far too few to cause him to do anything without one heck of a lot more "evidence"

For those who don't know shiite from shinola regarding offshore exploration and production as well as the service industries. Here is the report on ONE foreign flagged ship which sailed over, had open ocean skimmers placed on it then out working in the Gulf of Mexico. http://www.marinelog.com/DOCS/NEWSMMIX/2010jun00180.html I've been on Mighty Servant 1 when it was newly built.

Obama Derangement Syndrome?

Often I think I am living in a nation full of idiots, maybe like the few thinking Germans felt in the nineteen thirties. I'm beginning to wonder if I will get out of here even with the clothes on my back.

Just to add to your reply to Enragedsince1999, Kepha, that the American Constitution in the early nineteenth century co-existed with state religious requirements, it needs to be understood that the Constitution wasn't considered binding on the States, only the federal government. It wasn't until the very late nineteenth century (actually with a railroad case about property not being taken for public use without just compensation---Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad Co. v. Chicago, 1897) that the Supreme Court began what is known as the "Incorporation Doctrine," whereby certain provisions of the Bill of Rights are deemed binding not only on the federal government but also on the states. The "big" case respecting the Incorporation Doctrine was the Gitlow v. New York case of 1925, in which the Supreme Court held that the First Amendment requirements of free speech and the press were also binding on every State. Federal restrictions on religious enactments by the states came even later, post-1925. Just for the record. Hope you and yours are well.


chic

I too have grown exceedingly tired of Enragedsince1999 (anyone enraged since 1999 needs to check in to a mental health clinic, fast like). He often inculpates America in extreme ways. The "Christian Talibanism" comment is sickening (and typical), to say the least. And the guy doesn't understand American constitutional law worth a damn, of that I'm certain.

Your last post on Jihad Watch? Promise? And if you do decide to post again, which I think likely since you strike me as a person who issues idle threats (your 4:07 P.M. post after your 4:04 P.M. post clearly confirms this), what do you think Perry's understanding of Islam is? Done here.

@ Enragedsince1999

"Christian Talibanism"

Thanks for the laugh!

Aga Kahn is a dangerous man.He is about control,power and pushing a muslim agenda.Looking at his conglomerate of companies,charities and schools you see his base interests lie.
His sudden interest in feeding and educating children in Texas is suspect.Texas is not a third world country with starving children,they need no help.Nor do children need lessons on Islam.

Citizen K,you state( Perry) "His only power is to appoint the head of the State Board of Education who has no power.
So why was he meeting with the Aga?
who agreed to the feeding and indoctrinating of school children by the Aga Kahn ?
Don't you think Perry should know what is going on in the schools of his state?
Claiming innocence by ignorance seems a bit lame for a presidential candidate.

Judging by your 4:04 pm comment, Citizen K, dude, you need to go back to the drawing board on the "concise and to-the-point" aspect of writing. You need to look harder at the distinction between writing and incontinence, sobriety and a drunken vomit of verbiage.

As much as I find Perry an exciting candidate from a fiscal conservative free market perspective, I'm glad Spencer is giving him hell. We need to up the bar for all the candidates. If Spencer can move it one inch higher, bully for him. I say give hell to all the politicians who want to keep eliding the truth about Islam. I'm sick to death of watching them sell freedom down the river just because it's easier to go with the flow.

Human Rights and Islam

Check out these pie charts from the international human rights organization Freedom House. Scroll down to the regional pie charts. The pie chart for the Middle East/North Africa -- the core Islamic region -- shows the most unfree area in the world. However, one country included in the Middle East/North Africa pie chart is listed as "free." Can you guess which one that is? (Hint: It's not Islamic.) Islam also has a remarkable record on honor killings.

The curriculum states: “Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians, who were subjects of new Arab rulers, could maintain their religious practices provided they paid jizya, a tax in tribute in lieu of military service.”

It was not my understanding that there was an option between paying jizya OR serving in the military. I have never heard it or read it. Ever. Whoever put that in the textbook is a lier.

There was no choice about payment of jizya and no chance the subjugated peoples would be allowed into the muslim armies.

That non muslims were not permitted in the military was not related to jizya. The suppressed indiginous peoples were not allowed to wield weapons or ride horses. They would not have recieved military training because their subjugators did not want them to learn how to defend themselves or develop the skills and temperment needed to revolt against them.

There was no choice about paying Jizya and no option to serve in the military. Both were applied to previously free peoples once they were under muslim subjugation.

It is not even an acceptably constructed sentance as it should be at least two sentances. An english teacher would deduct marks for it. As propoganda, though, it is well crafted.

Carl Ernst: “Why is this so? How have political and economic relationships between the Middle East and Western Europe and the United States impacted perceptions of Islam, in the past and the present? How have they impacted perceptions of the ‘West’ among Muslims?”

I immediately dismiss as a lazy, semi-educated hack any writer who continually employs the handy but bogus verb "impact," which is a noun, and who cannot think of a better verb, such as "affect," “effect,” "change" and the like. This criticism is aside from Robert’s bang-on critique of the curriculum. But perhaps Ernst, at the time of writing his Valley Gal statements, was suffering from an impacted tooth.

I HAVE JUST E-MAILED THE RICK PERRY CAMPAIGN OFFICE THE FOLLOWING:

I like the way Mr. Perry is handling himself on the campaign trail. I am very much leaning his way BUT I have a very big issue that I and many others would like an answer to prior to the voting..Summarized at the attached link.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/here-is-the-aga-khanrick-perry-curriculum-scrubbed-from-the-web-cache-scrubbed-from-google-search.html#comments
PLEASE START GIVING US SOME ANSWERS. Thanks..

One must also ask: Is Google in cahoots with the Perry camp? With the Muslim Brotherhood?

Rick Perry seems like any other devious politician scraping around for votes and one who is unfamiliar with the methods and teachings of Islam. How can a presidential candidate have 'friendship' with Muslims motivated by plans to introduce sharia law into the United States? Not that any other candidates have any idea either .. Americans need to become educated.

"I like the way Mr. Perry is handling himself on the campaign trail. I am very much leaning his way BUT I have a very big issue that I and many others would like an answer to prior to the voting..Summarized at the attached link.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/here-is-the-aga-khanrick-perry-curriculum-scrubbed-from-the-web-cache-scrubbed-from-google-search.html#comments
PLEASE START GIVING US SOME ANSWERS. Thanks."

This response appears reasonable and perhaps if enough people request this info from the Perry campaign, the Governor will respond.

As a rebuttal to Citzen K's comment, he misses the point. Why does a major U.S. politician feel the need to get into bed academically with a Muslim? Of any kind? There aren't other philanthropists he could have chosen to highlight and to associate with? He and his staff chose the optics of this relationship. He chose to go to the Middle East and extoll this man and his organization's virtues.

He was not simply asked "Does the Aga Khan do good in the world?" so as to respond, "Yes, I see many poor people being fed and illnesses contained as a result of this man's work." No, instead, he feels that he must somehow get the message of his man "out there" to Texans.

Does he do it by offering tax-reduced clinic space? Does he do it by allowing training in cultural competency for doctors in high immigrant areas? Does he point the Aga Khan to the expansive food shelf and hunger abatement communities in Texas?

No. He introduces the Aga Khan to the foremost school of educator training in Texas. Training teachers of primary and secondary school seems to be the way suggested to him that the agenda of "mutual understanding" can be best furthered.

In other words, rather than letting the charitable work demonstrate the intent of this group, his first instinct was to pressure UT-Austin to accept this man and his message of dawa (you've seen the curriculum, right?), and make sure it was integrated post-haste into didactic training.

Do you see the path that could have been taken versus the path that was taken? You're telling me that the governor of Texas holds so little sway at a state-funded university that he can't be even a little bit accountable for the implementation of the program. I'll bet in a press release somewhere he took at least a little bit of credit for it.

It is fair to ask why a governor of ANY U.S. state would be pushing the implementation of teacher training regarding Islam beyond the simple facts of history.

This, in my view, is Perry's problem. It is not a smear. These questions must be answered and your defensiveness is unbecoming.

What, praytell, might be Perry's next "first instinct" regarding a Muslim bearing flowery words?

(xpost from Atlas)
Here, for example, is an excerpt from one of the "lessons" in the abstract:

"Early Muslim philosophers wove ideas from Greek and neo-Platonist philosophy into their metaphysical teachings regarding the relationship between God and the universe. Ibn Sina (d. 1037), also known as Avicenna, wrote important commentaries on Greek philosophy which were to play a central role in the so-called rediscovery of philosophy by Christian scholastics like Thomas Aquinas (d. 1274). But Muslim philosophers like Ibn Sina did not merely preserve earlier traditions; they incorporated these ideas into Islamic intellectual traditions and made original contributions to philosophy and theology."

Note the interweaving of Muslim philosopher Avicenna with Thomas Aquinis, providing a nearly comforting frame of reference for non-Muslim readers. However, look at how it's worded: "Avicenna, wrote important commentaries on Greek philosophy which were to play a central role in the so-called rediscovery of philosophy by Christian scholastics." What it doesn't say is that the "central role" as far as Aquinas was concerned was to reject the preponderance of Avicenna's arguments regarding the nature of God.

Aquinas studied the Muslim philosphers, and the not-so-Muslim Muslim philosphers as he studied many other philosphies, using them as point and counterpoint in his own studies.

To say that Muslim philosophers somehow played a crucial role in the propagation of Western philosophies is akin to saying that Fourier had a profound effect on American conservatism and libertarianism. They acknowledged the vision all right, but rejected it entirely.

Daniel Pipe "dissing" Geller and supporting Perry? If true,that is consistent with his long held view that the answer to Islamism is moderate Islam. I think anyone can be fooled by the appearance of modernity of Aga Khan, including our own Prime Minister Stephen Harper who personally attended the ground breaking ceremony for the mega Aga Khan Centre in Toronto. (Mr. Harper as you know has consistently taken principled but unpopular stand for Israel.)

This information, thanks to Pamela, should be disseminated as widely as possible. Facts matter, and only truth, not whitewash, can keep us free.

winoceros, good point.

"It is fair to ask why a governor of ANY U.S. state would be pushing the implementation of teacher training regarding Islam beyond the simple facts of history?

Maybe it's because if you make it lengthy and complicated, you are able to spin, twist, leave out, distract and deftly lie to camouflage the simple, verifiable actuality of the blood and carnage laid out across history under the advance of islam and it's muslim zombies.

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