Juan Cole shows himself to be another cowardly pseudo-academic, ducks offer to debate Spencer

Juan.Cole.jpgUnable to defend his own views


Now more than ever, Muslim and non-Muslim Islamic apologists are making broad-based and inaccurate attacks on my scholarship and integrity; but when it comes to backing up their claims in debate with me, they suddenly get cold feet. The list of Islamic "scholars" and non-Muslim "experts" who have refused to debate me keeps growing; it now includes Ahmed Afzaal; Akbar Ahmed; Karen Armstrong; Reza Aslan; Jamal Badawi; Robert Crane; Dinesh D'Souza (although I did best him in debate at CPAC in 2007, he refuses a return engagement, perhaps sensing the outcome would be the same); Carl Ernst; John Esposito; Mark LeVine; Khaleel Mohammed; Grover Norquist; Ahmed Rehab; Louay Safi; and the viciously mendacious academic propagandist Omid Safi, who ought to have been fired from UNC-Chapel Hill long ago for his vile false claim that I had sent him death threats.

And now we can add Juan Cole, the heavy hitter who has equated Sarah Palin with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and defended Saudi Wahhabism. Jihad Watch reader David wrote to him asking him to debate me. He received this response from Cole:

Hi, David.

Spencer is a fraud with no academic credentials in Islamic studies. For me to debate him would bestow on him a level of legitimacy his falsehoods have not earned him.

cheers Juan

When David sent that to me, I wrote this back to him and to Cole:

Hello, David. Manifestly, from what is below, it is Juan Cole who is the fraud, hiding behind the MESA ideological control of the academy to cover up his mediocrity and utter intellectual vacuity. He does not and cannot point out anything false in what I say, and smears me to hide the fact that he cannot defend his own positions and fears to debate me. In reality, if I were the "fraud" he says, he could debate me, win handily, and in doing so show me up. After all, he cannot deny that my work has influence -- how many bestselling books has he written again? Isn't it interesting that neither this coward nor any of his fellow academic poseurs, although their influence is far lesser than mine, will deign to do the world the service of showing me up publicly and thereby ending my baneful influence forever? Could it be that they can't do it? Sure looks like it, as Cole cowers in fear, fashions excuses, and slings insults. All that is easy. Refuting my work is not so easy.

Cordially
Robert

Meanwhile, speaking of debates, I had neglected to note a speaking engagement this Friday on my calendar, and thus inadvertently scheduled a conflict when I agreed to a rematch with the hapless Moustafa Zayed at that time. When I discovered the conflict I asked that the debate be rescheduled, and it has now been set for the following week, August 12, at 9PM EDT. The wretched Zayed took advantage of my request to claim that I was ducking him, thus revealing his utter desperation, but after all, he can only hope to win by lying. Here is our first debate, and watch for the rematch on the 12th:

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He has a fool's face.

Ahahaha, Robert so well said, outwardly you seem like a nice professorial type of person, but on the 'inside' you're a mighty warrior like Achilles.

Whenever you debate or give speeches, you make complex ideas/concepts accessible and deliver them very clearly and concisely, something I envy and strive for myself.

Glad you're on our side, not theirs-it's no wonder they're afraid to debate you, they have nothing but a wet tissue thin layer of lies, rhetoric and insults to prop themselves and their bankrupt ideas up, while you have the truth on your side.

I always relish your debates with whatever sock-puppet they throw at you, so hopefully they'll eventually find another leftist or muslim stooge for your to shame and embarrass.

Where's that Reza Aslan when you need him? :)

Seriously , I had absolutely no clue as to who this dude was. After doing some "research" at biased Wikepedia I got a better idea. I then searched out some book reviews and found the same leftard butt kissing as usual, except for this one review and this one sentence: "He takes apart the notion that we are in some inevitable struggle for world supremacy with muslims."

That summed it up for me fairly well. I would not believe anyone who denies that islam is striving for world domination despite their many proclamations that they are doing just that. When in doubt,I go to the source not some second hand hack who because he spent some time in the Middlle East believes himself to be an authority.

The lot of them: cowards, frauds, and tools.

The truth is irrefutable.

Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.

Karen Armstrong and Reza Aslan will not debate because they know they will look unconvincing...at least to 50% of the audience.

At least Mustafa has the guts to debate.Why does Karen Armstrong defend Islam so much?I think she could be getting money from Muslims,privately.

And they can prove it,and say if she ever gets out they have film to show she got money.It would be blackmail

As I always say,one must know arguments against the Koran itself,like "Evidence that the Stoning Verse was taken out of the Koran which would show the Koran has been altered,may Islam false

http://www.antisharia.com/2011/02/27/evidence-of-the-strong-probablity-a-verse-of-the-koranabout-stoning-was-take-outproving-islam-to-be-false/

'Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds' -Albert Einstein

The elites, steeped in snobbery as they often are, so often demonize what they can't refute. This is a case in point. And it's the way of the wuss.

It's Roberts propensity for the truth, prooven over 17,000 times, that attests to his credentials.

Who the heck is this dude? Never heard of him.

Spencer - You rock, and don't you ever forget it. You're the one with the truth and knowledge about Islam. Your antagonists are nothing but cowardly pathetic losers. And that Khaleel Mohammed? What a satanic ignoramus!

This sort of thing always makes me laugh. They KNOW they have nothing to counter the truth that you will bring to them, so they run.

Hilarious!

These people are just sissy punks who think they are doing the world a favor by their political correctness attitude, which is a cancer to the free world. Damn cowards!
I would like to see such patroits and fighters of freedom Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller run for the positions of President and Vice-President of the US. Freedom would ring by insuring our freedoms given to us in our constitution that these freedoms will not be infringed. I believe this whole-heartedly.

Robert,

all those in the counter Jihad know you to be honest, objective and true to yourself.

That I agree with you is not an imposed choice it is born out of considered and considered scholarship that is hard won in these desolate times.

I happen to be a member of longstanding of the BNP.

Your work and those of others such as Stein, Bat Y Or, Steyn,Ayan Hirsi Ali and others have informed my opinions but do not make them.

It is essential that you continue your work no matter what.

We may have differing interpretations of what constitutes freedom of thought and belief and I am perfectly willing to discuss these.

Unfortunately the so called "Democrats" are not capable of objectivity as they are consumed by their own lies.

This is the wall you face.

As do all purveyors of freedom.

We must come together or fail apart.

Cole does have academic credentials yet he says things that are utterly unbelievable, e.g. that the Crusaders' sack of Byzantium was a major factor in its decline. (Yes, Christians were far from unified, but no, the Arab and then the Turkish invasions had already badly weakened the Empire, and it was the Turks who completed the job. The Crusaders were a minor glitch.)

He also claimed that "Islamic terrorism" is an improper term because it implies that terrorism is exclusively Islamic. This is so false that that I simply don't believe that any native speaker of English believes this. Unless his political beliefs have actually warped his interpretation of English utterances, he's lying.

Excellent bitch-slap, sir. Refuting your work is not only not so easy, it is not so possible.

"After all, he cannot deny that my work has influence -- how many bestselling books has he written again?"

Thank God for that, Robert, thank God for that.

Yep, they're so steeped in arrogance that they've chosen to ignore 1,400 years of history. Now had the likes of jan Sobieski, Pelayo, Charles Martel etc been like Juan Cole and Karen Armstrong, we would all be living under cruel tyrants in a backward sharia state - and some of us would have spent 10 or more centuries living in such a state.

The clichéd academic pose with the tip of his thumb just touching his chin says it all - poseur and fraud.

There is one islamophile/mahoundian who claims he has "accepted" Robert's challenge to a debate... It was Magic Wand from Abracadabra.com. Or was it Smokin' Pork Ribs from TheGrillForum.com? Or was it 'Roid Rage from Bodybuilding.com? Or Danios from Loonwatch? With the anonymity of the web allowing any troll to hide behind a fake name to write whatever they want, including an alleged claim to have accepted an offer to a debate, we can't take such individuals seriously.

At one time you could have "embarrassed" a "no sh-t shylock" like this character into,(at least)a convoluted
roundabout apology.
Today, im convinced because of political correctness, you
have a non entity like him, looking down his nose, through
clouds of self righteousness......one has to ask,
just where do these pontificators get off.. :-)
sad & laughable in equal measure.

oh on Zayed, look forward to him making a fool of himself again,(& i hope, the callers get in on the fun,(again) as we witness his verbal demise again, it was great viewing).

"The clichéd academic pose with the tip of his thumb just touching his chin says it all - poseur and fraud."

"Poseur and fraud"
That is exactly the first impression one gets of the "man". He looks as phony as he sounds. Gutless, lying fake.

"He also claimed that "Islamic terrorism" is an improper term because it implies that terrorism is exclusively Islamic. This is so false that that I simply don't believe that any native speaker of English believes this. Unless his political beliefs have actually warped his interpretation of English utterances, he's lying"

From what I read about Cole on Wiki, he's gone native. Which explains a lot.

"Poseur and fraud"

Yes. And a tart of epic proportions.

A whore for the Muzz, just like Johnny Esposito and so many other little shits who have sold their sorry asses to the most absurd belief system the world has ever known.

"The clichéd academic pose with the tip of his thumb just touching his chin says it all - poseur and fraud."

Indeed. You have yet to see the wayward Esposito posing:

http://www.readthespirit.com/sharing-islam/interview-with-dr-john-esposito-on-future-of-islam.html

it must have taken hours to get the pose right....

"A whore for the Muzz, just like Johnny Esposito and so many other little shits who have sold their sorry asses to the most absurd belief system the world has ever known"

As I said above, when I read his Wiki profile, I knew he was another Western shill for the Religion of Barbarism just like repellent Armstrong and Esposito.

“Islam is an absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, a rotting corpse which poisons our lives." - Kemal Ataturk

Even Ataturk, a Muslim, knew the score.

Some people are educated beyond their intelligence...That is a built in plus for Robert when debating academics and some Mahoundians...Every regular poster here knows the truth of Islam, and can hold their own in debates...But Spencer knows his material to a highly refined understanding...and can articulate it perfectly because he does not use tactics...
'In all your getting get understanding'...Spencer has done that and those who debate or refuse to debate have not...

He is indeed a coward. I agree.

Cole: "For me to debate him would bestow on him a level of legitimacy..."

Give me a break! Coward.

These from here..

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=235486&page=9

"A mediocre teacher but a truly terrible human being. He will actually take off points for disagreeing with his silly political ideas. If you want to get to him, call him "John" (his real name)."

"Opinions differ on Cole, I side with those who call him a hypocritical, double-standard spouting apologist for racism and religious fascism. These are differences of opinion, not "untruths.""
I'm glad others agree that Prof Cole is ridiculously biased. I have a feeling the students who disagree with him are made afraid to speak out. Glad this forum exists!"

And now the coup de grace..

"The guy is a very smart and thoroughly dishonest. He counts on relatively uninformed students not to speak up when he spews his anti-Jewish and pro-Muslim propaganda, but challenge him and he freaks out."

What a wimp!


For those who may have been thrown by the reference to MESA.

This is the acronym for the Middle Eastern Studies Association.

Hugh Fitzgerald, one-time and long-term erudite contributor to this site, but since moved on to new exploits at the New English Review, coined the inimitable phrase "MESA nostra" to encapsulate the subversion and corruption of Middle Eastern Studies - in the USA, but also beyond the USA - by Muslims and Islamophiles.

New visitors, please click and read this classic disquisition on the subject.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/01/fitzgerald-mesa-nostra.html

'Fitzgerald: MESA nostra".

And this, too:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/10/fitzgerald-a-brief-mesa-nostra-taxonomy.html

And this:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/01/hugh-fitzgerald-announces-the-mesa-nostra-contest-and-makes-you-an-offer-you-cant-refuse.html

(And please, please, please, do not forget to read the attached 'comments' thread for the third item. It contains something that will make you gasp, and stretch your eyes; though for full enjoyment you will probably need to have Googledictionary handy, opened in an additional window).

Several more Fitzgerald classics, focusing on some of the 'gentlemen' (if they may be dignified by the name) and one lady (but to call her a lady is probably an offence to the English language) who have haughtily declined to debate with Mr Spencer.

First, Juan Cole, the subject of this thread. Note well: the phrase 'a tribute' must be assumed to be simply dripping with satirical acid.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/04/fitzgerald-a-tribute-to-juan-cole.html

*Do not* omit to read the comments thread as well as the article.

Second, Hugh Fitzgerald demolishes Karen Armstrong, here:

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/7471

as previously here:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/04/fitzgerald-a-tribute-to-karen-armstrong-or-the-coherence-of-her-incoherence.html

(Again, don't forget to read the 'comments' as well).

Third, Hugh tackles John Esposito.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/03/fitzgerald-a-tribute-to-john-esposito.html

In order to encourage you to click on the link and read, here is the final paragraph (I'm not really giving anything away):

"He's got a good thing going. $20 million for his "Georgetown" Center, which means a lot more for lean, mean, jogging John Esposito, and John Voll, and Yvonne Haddad..

"And of course John Esposito is hardly alone in having earned, on some future gravestone, that epitaph which so many in the Western world over the past thirty years have earned, in Washington and London and Paris, in their own ways, as they did nothing to prevent Muslim immigration, nothing serious to limit OPEC revenues, and thought only of how to obtain some of those revenues for themselves, their friends, their relatives, their companies:

'Shilling for Islam, undoing the West,
Radix malorum cupiditas est.'"

A little more on Esposito:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/09/fitzgerald-question-authority.html


And, last but not least, Carl Ernst.

An ironic 'tribute'.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/09/fitzgerald-a-tribute-to-carl-ernst.html


Then, a discussion of the course of reading on Islam that Ernst offered to his students, and a suggested alternative book-list.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/09/fitzgerald-recommended-reading----hold-the-spencer.html

More vintage Fitzgerald, on the subject of that indefatigable defender of Islam, Carl Ernst.

This.

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/9939

'Carl Ernst and Services to Islam'.

(Carl Ernst, for writing a book entitled "Following Muhammad" received - in its first year of offering - the Bashrahil Prize for Outstanding Cultural Achievement in the Humanities, from Kuwait University).

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/12/fitzgerald-carl-ernst-for-the-king-faisal-prize.html

In the event, Carl Ernst didn't get the King Faisal prize for services to Islam - he got a prize from Islamic Iran, instead, and trotted off to Iran to receive it from the very hand of... Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. See the news report, with Mr Spencer's accompanying comments, here:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/12/well-done-good-and-faithful-servant-unc-academic-propagandist-receives-award-from-irans-thug-in-chie.html

[This link includes a mug shot of the perp].

In the attached comments thread, Hugh weighs in with some sardonic remarks, to wit:

"More than two years ago I wrote a "Tribute to Carl Ernst." In the antepenultimate paragraph of that tribute I nominated Carl Ernst for the King Faisal Prize, in the category for which he might fittingly win: Services to Islam.

" I wrote the tribute in 2006, and so was nominating Ernst for the 2007 prize. But 2007 came and went, and there was no King Faisal Prize for Professor Carl Ernst. And 2008 came and went, and there still was no King Faisal Prize for Professor Carl Ernst.

"And now I'm afraid his acceptance of a prize from Shi'a Iran, archenemy of Saudi Arabia, may queer what would otherwise no doubt be his excellent chances to win the King Faisal Prize.

"Or perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps someone like Ernst, who is an apologist for Islam, but in the eyes of the Al-Saud and their tame clerics possibly not sufficiently Sunni in his orientation, just isn't precisely the right kind of apologist.

"If so, then I apologize to Professor Carl Ernst and to his supporters, for nominating him when he had so little chance to win. It was not intentionally cruel. I simply miscalculated.

As, come to think of it, may have he, in agreeing to accept this award from the Islamic Republic of Iran, and thereby queering his chances for even more money from the Al-Saud."


Robert, is it possible for you to add me to the list of people how won't debate you.

I was thinking I would like to teach at a University and maybe putting this on my résumé might show the academics that I have the right stuff. Ooooops sorry, I meant to say the Left stuff.

he's a haughty, chinless wonder...

straw man.

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