After the Malaysian lifestyle slash religious police raided a Christian church during a 'multi-racial' dinner there -- a raid based on the flimsiest of pretexts -- the (Muslim) authorities are not backing down one inch. From 'Hasan Ali backs JAIS raid on church', The Star, 4 August 2011:
PETALING JAYA: Selangor state exco member Datuk Hasan Ali of PAS has defended Wednesday night's raid by the State Religious Department (JAIS) [religious police] on the Damansara Utama Methodist Church.
"We found evidence of proselytisation towards Muslims," he said in a statement Thursday.
"We carried out the raid after receiving information that there were Muslims who attended a breaking-of-fast event at the church.
"In the early part of the event, a person was quoted saying the words 'Quran' and 'pray' in the speech," he added.
The raid did have a positive side, at least as far as Islam (not the Muslims involved) is concerned. Twelve Muslims who attended the dinner have been ordered to appear at the religious police HQ for what is termed as 'further investigation'. No doubt these wayward Muslims will become much more pious after their sentences have been handed down by the shariah court and duly carried out.It was reported earlier Thursday that JAIS officials, accompanied by police, had raided the church during a thanksgiving dinner being held at its rented premises over suspicion that Muslims were present.
In accordance with the wishes of Allah, all Muslims are perpetual minors. It is the job of the fascistic system that their ideology mandates to keep it so.
The dhimmis, of course, are less than amused. From "Raided church wants action against Jais for trespass, harassment", Debra Chong for The Malaysian Insider, 4 August:
KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 4 — The Damansara Utama Methodist Church (DUMC) has called on all Malaysians to lend support and object to what it called the authorities’ breach of their constitutional right to assemble freely, after it was raided by Selangor Islamic Religious Department (Jais) officials and the police last night.
In a statement today, DUMC’s senior pastor Daniel Ho related how a group of 20 to 30 of Selangor’s religious police had entered its rented premises at the Dream Centre in Petaling Jaya late last night without a warrant and intimidated invited guests, including Muslims, at its private dinner celebration.
They have subjected all guests at the Thanksgiving Dinner to undue harassment,” he said, noting that not all the enforcement group were in uniform and had failed to produce a copy of the complaint when asked for the reason for the raid.
Ho stressed that the dinner was non-religious in nature but held to celebrate the work of non-profit organisation Harapan Komuniti in helping women, children, HIV/AIDS sufferers and victims of natural disasters.
“We call on all Malaysians not to condone this breach of freedom of assembly and association as provided by provided Article 10 of the Federal Constitution of Malaysia, but to live in mutual trust and love, to promote peace, harmony and unity in the true spirit of 1 Malaysia,” he said.
Pastor Ho, you think the constitution that you revere contravenes the laws of Allah as (supposedly) codified in Shariah? You think '1Malaysia' means equality of infidel and Muslim? Think again.
I hear they have Bibles in there!!!!!
What's next? Dogs and cats running loose in the streets? Muslims (in mass) becoming apostates?
It staggers the imagination!!!!
The Selangor state of Malaysia is under the rule of the evil Malaysian Opposition, that consists of the most dangerous alliance of the Islamic Nazis of the murderous Jew-hating Muslim Brotherhood/Qardawi-loving Anwar Ibrahim of PKR party and the thuggish Iranian Mullah-like Malay-Muslim extremist party, PAS, and the Chinese-dominated Communist/Maoist-loving party DAP. Thus, they real Dhmmi SLAVES of Islam are the Communist Chinese from DAP, not this Pastor!
Further, PKR, is a much active Malaysian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood (MB), especially in targeting young Malay-Muslim intellectuals and professionals and infiltrating Govt ministeries and religious departments including under the ruling BN; where Anwar, the founder pf PKR, simply adores Qardawi, the spiritual leader of the MB (Anwar censored many of my comments in his blog for criticizing this). PAS is also aspiring to the MB, but it behaves more like Iranian Mullahs thugs, since it wants a savage Islamic state fast.
See - http://tvpakatanrakyat.blogspot.com/2010/03/yusuf-qaradawi-and-anwar-ibrahim.html
Yusuf Qaradawi and Anwar Ibrahim
....Since 1960, when Qaradawi wrote his book in Arabic, his narrow approach toward Islam has predominated. In Malaysia, his influence is deep, even among the governing Muslim elites. When former deputy premier Anwar Ibrahim was the president of the International Islamic University, Malaysia, he spent considerable time with Qaradawi, expressing his support for the latter's fiqh al aliyyah (introducing Islamic law according to priorities).
In his governmental post of deputy to prime minister Mahathir Mohamad, Anwar was able to bring some of Qaradawi's ideas into public policy. Eventually Anwar was dumped from the government and jailed on charges of sodomy and corruption; however, the thoughts and practice of Qaradawi have not been totally excluded from government policy, including the reductionist elements.
Islamic scholars and thinkers in Malaysia continue to look to Qaradawi for various Islamic interpretations and verdicts, such as on the legality of suicide terrorism. More important, the inspiration of Qaradawi is integral to the conceptual blueprint for an Islamic state as held by the opposition Parti Islam SeMalaysia (PAS), which controls the Kelantan state government......
Sounds like this was actually an inter-faith event, in celebration of different religious groups that have helped women, children and people with HIV. CANT HAVE THAT! Don't these Muslim know all that inter-faith talk is just that, talk, to fool the kafir in the west!
Besides, the Muslims might just develop an actual, REAL friendhip with Christians, or at the very least see they are good-hearted people, and not despise them as Allah wants them to. CANT HAVE THAT EITHER!
Heads up people, Opposition coalition is NOT behind this.
A rogue PAS member is to blame;
http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=17091:du-church-proselytizing-muslims-hasan-ali-acting-on-his-own-say-pas-leaders&Itemid=2
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This could be a ploy from the ruling govt to create discord and suspicion as they are desperate to regain Selangor;
http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=17055:du-church-raid-part-of-umno-plan-to-get-malays-paranoid-fearful-of-christians&Itemid=2
Twelve Muslims present, eh? That's suspicious. There were twelve disciples and there are the twelve days of Christmas, my true love said to me...
Clearly guilty of something remotely connected with Christianity under Sharia make-it-up-as-you-go-along rules. Execution is the mandatory punishment. And think yourselves lucky, the sentence could've been stiffer!
But Allah is kind, Allah is merciful. :)
Yeah right! So, we're supposed to believe the evil Malaysian Opposition alliance of the Islamic Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood of PKR and Iranian Mullah Thugs of Malay-Muslim PAS, together with their Dhimmi SLAVE, the Communist Chinese-dominated DAP? Give me a break!
Besides, I have hope for the majority ruling BN to take back the states under savage Opposition rule, where the BN as headed by the alliance of the (non-Communist) Chinese-dominated MCA and Indian-dominated MIC, can still reform the half-moderate Malay-Muslim UMNO - although PAS and PKR infiltrators are hijacking UMNO, turning it to be more fanatical. Imagine if MCA and MIC are not in the alliance with UMNO to form the majority ruling Malaysian Govt of BN; how dangerous it would be for Malaysia and non-Muslims; where if the Opposition controls all Malaysia instead, Malaysia will be like savage Egypt, Iran or Pakistan!
Yeah right! So, we're supposed to believe the evil Malaysian Opposition alliance of the Islamic Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood of PKR and Iranian Mullah Thugs of Malay-Muslim PAS, together with their Dhimmi SLAVE, the Communist Chinese-dominated DAP? Give me a break!
---> I suppose the current ruling govt who does this is far more believable?
http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=17016:msia-exporting-corruption-cnbc-pulls-the-plug-on-najib-and-taib&Itemid=2
---> On one hand we have corrupted power hungry thugs posing as MODERATE Muslims and the other, a group with alleged links to the most fanatical and dangerous jihadist groups. Gee, what a great choice for Malaysians.
Besides, I have hope for the majority ruling BN to take back the states under savage Opposition rule, where the BN as headed by the alliance of the (non-Communist) Chinese-dominated MCA and Indian-dominated MIC, can still reform the half-moderate Malay-Muslim UMNO - although PAS and PKR infiltrators are hijacking UMNO, turning it to be more fanatical. Imagine if MCA and MIC are not in the alliance with UMNO to form the majority ruling Malaysian Govt of BN; how dangerous it would be for Malaysia and non-Muslims; where if the Opposition controls all Malaysia instead, Malaysia will be like savage Egypt, Iran or Pakistan!
---> Well, the ruling govt sure is doing all in their power to ensure that they stay in control and yes, reclaim the states they have lost in the previous GE. They do it by ensuring that Fair and Transparent elections does not take place in Malaysia:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14138270
---> They do it by coercing votes via instant citizenship perks to permanent resident card holders:
http://shared.malaysiakini.com/l/cdk/171921
---> Oh, and you think that MCA acts on the interests of ordinary Malaysian Chinese? Explain this then:
http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=17058:mca-the-great-defender-of-the-chinese&Itemid=2
Amusing article by James Delingpole in The Telegraph about the various types of internet troll he has identified:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100099194/seven-types-of-troll-a-spotters-guide/
2 troll descriptions in particular struck me with regards to someone who regularly disrupts anti-Jihadist's postings:
4. Pedant Troll. In his imagination, pedant troll is the very exemplar of reason, balance and moderation. He feels effortlessly superior to the ridiculous, extremist, purblind fool whose blog he haunts, and whom he likes to put down with his killer sarcasm, weapons-grade pedantry and niggling little quibbles masquerading as constructive criticism. If he were really as brilliant as he thinks he is, he would at the very least have a major blog of his own by now, and more likely be King of the World. Strangely, he has yet to achieve either of these things.
5. Spambot troll. Spambot troll is on a mission – quite possibly a paid-for mission to judge by the frequency with which he posts. His job is to sabotage the comments section by filling it with cut-and-paste postings of little relevance to the debate in hand. He was probably sent straight here from CACC – which also sums up the quality of the stuff he writes.
Your comments are unwarranted and stink of Fascist diatribe venom....with no facts.
As any Malaysian will tell you, getting accurate and objective facts about Malaysian history is like wading in a murky pond, and you’re left fishing out half truths and inconsistencies, if you were to rely on official government sources. One is left collating personal recounts from witnesses of that era to formulate a cohesive idea of what really took place.
Having lived here all my life, and studied history in school (of course the edited version) there are a couple of things that you consistently fail to mention about the dominant ruling party in Malaysia which is UMNO in your numerous comments on this site.
You claim that UMNO ought to be supported by Malaysians because they are:
a) MODERATE MUSLIM *snigger* and the reason why their current image is marred is because of infiltration from the Opposition.
b) The Opposition being PAS/PKR who are Qardawi buddies and thuggish Mullahs. Oh and not forgetting your Communist loving DAP.
Under the MODERATE UMNO govt we have thus far:
May 13 1969 which saw the current PM of Malaysia’s own FATHER Abdul Razak as premier of the country when deadly racial tussles took place in the streets and resulted in thousands of deaths, widespread hatred among different ethnic groups and a state of emergency.
As a result from the May 13 clashes, the NEP (New Economic Policy) was introduced to offer affirmative assistance to Bumiputras (Malay/Muslim) Although the intent of NEP was supposed to benefit the Bumiputras in giving them a heads start in competitive business dealings, it has been grossly abused and manipulated by UMNO who have secured tenders and contracts for their cronies at the expense of the rakyat (citizens). The Lynas project and Scorpene submarines are examples of that.
And who could forget the infamous RM 1.8 million expenditure for a FACEBOOK page on Cuti-cuti Malaysia (Malaysian Tourism) The tourism Minister? MCA Vice President Dr Ng Yen Yen.
Why MCA is irrelevant to Malaysians today: http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=16812:mca-past-salvation-even-the-chinese-say-it-deserved-ibrahim-alis-basket&Itemid=2
Former PM and UMNO party president Mahathir Mohamad in his 22 year tenure as premier has:
• Stripped the Malaysian royalty of their privileges
• Muzzled the Judiciary and Justice Penal Code of Malaysia thereby allowing for a full, despotic reign in Malaysia.
• Silenced his top dissenter Anwar Ibrahim who was his Deputy PM at the time with trumped-up sodomy charges
• Invoked Internal Security Act (ISA) on said deputy PM and other citizens he deemed a threat to his position.
• Tried to appeal to religious voters by establishing Islamic institutions such as the International Islamic University of Malaysia which could promote Islamic education under the government's oversight.
• Made Malaysia an international laughingstock with the statement: “Jews rule the world”
• The hidden puppet master behind PERKASA (The Malay rights champion political sect) with the infamous Ibrahim Ali as his mouthpiece. For further details see:
http://malaysiansmustknowthetruth.blogspot.com/2011/07/full-of-class-ibrahim-ali-calls-mca.html
Yes, if these are the actions of Moderate Muslims, as you espouse UMNO to be; then we should by all means support them!
By the way, if you think that leadership under the current govt is as rosy as you say it is why aren’t you here in your tanah air living the “good life” as an apostate under the regime that is BN?
Or could it be that you are being paid good $$$ by the APCO to stay offshore and play the armchair politician?
Other relevant links:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/10/if-youre-in-malaysia-dont-read-this.html#comments
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Mahathir_bin_Mohamad
http://app1.chinadaily.com.cn/star/2003/1023/cn10-2.html
http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=17034:catch-us-if-you-can-najib-and-rosmah-running-scared&Itemid=2
You're the real FASCIST who hates freedom of speech against your beloved Islamic Nazis of the evil Malaysian Opposition alliance of the Islamic Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood of PKR and Iranian Mullah Thugs of Malay-Muslim PAS, together with their Dhimmi SLAVE, the Communist Chinese-dominated DAP! Get civilized!
You've lived in Malaysia but I was born in Malaysia and until the last election, I even voted like a fool of the Malaysian Opposition due to the cunning lies of Anwar and DAP! Luckily I woke up before it's too late. But it looks like you've been corrupted by those Muslim and DAP Nazi thugs!
And by the way, what don't you get? Why Islamic-Communist Nazi supporters fools like you keep ignoring how Anwar, when he was Deputy PM to Mahathir, as an agent of the Muslim Brotherhood, completely turned UMNO and Malaysia to be more fanatical, including 80% women/girls being forced psychologically to wear the veil! Further, why do you fail to mention how the Communist DAP went marching in the capital city, Kuala Lumpur, so arrogantly on May 13, 1969 after their victory, to provoke the Malays - this from the ashes of the Maoist-Communist bloody war on Malaysians from 1948-1960? Islamic-Communist Nazi supporters like you hate the truths don't you?
Let’s see, you accused me of being a hater of freedom of speech:
“You're the real FASCIST who hates freedom of speech against your beloved Islamic Nazis of the evil Malaysian Opposition. “
Hmm, then you’re allowed free reign to spew venom on the Opposition? I suppose FREE SPEECH is only applicable if you’re speaking against the Opposition in your ‘civilized’ mind…something you also accuse me of lacking. *Sarc grin* FREE SPEECH against the ruling govt means nothing to you?
Also, if I am opposed to free speech as you say I am, then you must be opposed to human rights if you think all this ought to be condoned:
• Right to worship
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/01/21/the-fight-over-allah.html
• Right to demand transparent, clean and FAIR elections
http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=17118:the-rot-within-the-election-commission-nrd-and-immigration-dept&Itemid=2
• Right to a Judiciary system free of political control
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Mahathir_bin_Mohamad
And let me get one thing clear to you, UMNO is doing a great disservice to this country on many other issues you refuse to face. You think life is sweet under BN rule do you? Come on home and live life as proud Islam apostate then. Come back to Malaysia and see for yourself. Stop bleating from the other side of the world.
Superb links. Thanks for sharing. It sure does provide insight into this fascinating country of yours.