As to why invasive, totalitarian measures are always necessary to keep the Islamic faithful in line, asking this is Islamophobic, politically incorrect, and in Malaysia, illegal. Such measures, such as the establishment of so-called 'faith purification centres' (religious prisons) and now, the Orwellian-named 'faith rescue unit', are increasingly commonplace in Malaysia. "[Malaysian state of] Selangor forms ‘faith-rescue unit’ for Muslims", The Malaysian Insider, 26 August 2011:
SHAH ALAM, Aug 26 — Selangor religious councillor Datuk Hasan Ali has set up a “faith-rescue unit”, or Unit Selamat Aqidah, to look into problems faced by Muslims that could expose them to risks of losing their religious conviction amid allegations of proselytisation in the state.
The PAS leader said his office was concerned about the issue of proselytisation as troubled Muslims could resort to help from other groups that might lead them away from Islam.
“This office takes a serious view of the negative perceptions of the state agencies, bodies and voluntary organisations that appear not to help solve the problems of this group of people.
“This office has taken the initiative to set up the Unit Selamat Aqidah, which, among others, is a service centre to accept complaints and applications to help reduce the burden of life of these people,” Hasan said in a statement
The idea that Islamic government, and Islam itself, are burdens is unthinkable.
He said the unit will work with the Selangor Zakat Board and voluntary organisations concerned about the issue, adding the board will name officials who will process applications for aid.
“It is hoped that Muslims who have received or are thinking of receiving aid from churches or Christian organisations can come to the Islamic Affairs, Malay Culture, Infrastructure and Public Amenities Exco to give their details so that help can be provided immediately,” Hasan said.
You know, Christians with their tendency to help anyone and everyone, regardless of their religion -- that's what makes them so dangerous.
The conservative Muslim leader assured such people that his office would help them to avoid being trapped in moves to make them apostates.
Pro-Umno newspapers have been highlighting alleged attempts by Christians to convert Muslims since the Selangor Islamic Religious Department (Jais) raided an evangelical church in Petaling Jaya on August 3. Proselytising Muslims is an offence in Malaysia.
Umno-owned Utusan Malaysia also reported recently an allegation that underprivileged Muslims living in a squatter area near Old Klang Road were being proselytised by Christians under the guise of free English classes.
The tuition centre was subsequently shut down for purportedly not owning a valid permit.
Lacking the proper permit...how convenient -- for the Muslims, of course.
Influential cleric Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin, however, said yesterday that Muslims should take care of their own poor instead of accusing Christians of proselytism when churches helped poor Muslims.
Based on the foregoing, it can reasonably concluded that Islamic governments, such as Malaysia's, whether its 'moderate' or otherwise, will inevitably revert to the following two principles:Tensions between Christians and Muslims have heightened after Jais swooped on the Damansara Utama Methodist Church (DUMC), on claims that it was investigating a complaint that Muslims were being converted at a dinner the church was hosting for a local NGO.
First, that Muslims are always considered essentially as perennial minors, unable to rule their own lives, untrusted to make their own decisions, and undeserving to have any meaningful freedom. In other words, to live in an Islamic society is to forever be treated as a child. As a Muslim under Muslim rule, your innermost, private thoughts have become the domain and property of the Muslim mullahs, imams, ayatollahs and other overlords who rule in Allah's name.
Secondly, the idea that one might stray from Islam, may have doubts, and might stop believing in Islam is a condition that is considered exactly like mental illness, or perhaps a drug dependency. Thus under Islam (as in certain leftist Western circles) the idea of 'thought crime' becomes not only real, but an offense of the highest order. Indeed, long ago Shariah codified free will, i.e. 'disbelief', as the gravest crime in Islam.
These two attributes are inherent of Islam. Not 'Islamism', not 'radical Islam', not 'Wahhabism', but Islam.
...underprivileged Muslims living in a squatter area near Old Klang Road were being proselytised by Christians under the guise of free English classes.
If you check out 'learn Arabic' videos on YouTube you'll find that some of them begin with the most common words in Arabic, apparently! 'Sword' is one of them.
What a hoot! Talk about proselytizing.
Read Eric Hoeffer's little book "The True Believer" and you will see that ALL totalitarian ideologies are insecure to the core, and that they generally project these inherent insecurities onto others. The Muslim ummah is awash in this phenomena.
Insecure they are, and with good reason!
"We are living a tragedy sir, by Allah we are living a tragedy!" Sheikh Ahmad al Qataani on al Jazeera TV.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/05/dying-islam-lislam-mourant.html
I get a laugh at the Muslims that come to canada and boast about how great islam is and how much peace and Human Rights it give people.
Sure it does, that's why they fled an islamic hell-hole run by Shariah Law and that murders gays in public or still behead people like those fun-guys in saudi Arabia.
Why just last week o saw a huge line-up at the Air Port for gays and Jews that wanted to go to Saudi Arabia and Iran, the tourism is great for pedophiles since muhammed was one and that iran lets sex-starve pigs in their 50's marry little girls and rape them like the hero Muhammed did.
Pretty sad when people want to kill others just to defend the idea that their faith is peaceful .
You know, Christians with their tendency to help anyone and everyone, regardless of their religion -- that's what makes them so dangerous.
Yes we must be on our guard, those pestie Christians with their bibles and loving each other. We don’t want none of that.
Is somebody worried Muslims might convert? I don't know why. As the prophet says, "whosoever changeth his deen, kill him."
Problem solved.
The free world must help and contiue to help apostates. My hope is that this will encourage others to follow. And soon dozens will grow to be hundreds, and then thousands, and then millions.
However, helping apostates is dangerous for all concerned. Because Islam really does kill apostates and anyone whom trys to help them. So the effort must remain low profile and be made public.
To me this makes much more sense than simply killing those whom don't think like we do. That would be no better than them. Killing should be the last resort and not the first reaction.
Make no mistake Islam takes this entire thing very very seriously. To do anything else would be foolish on our part. The free world must understand the seriousness as well. Islam is 100 times more dangerous than Hitler was. Islam works in the shadows and remains stealth until the hour of attack. It may even invite you over for supper before they behead you. Don't be a fool. Look around and take note of what you see.
There is only one truth. Someone is clearly being dishonest here. Gee I wonder who that is.?? LOL
"Happy Trails"
And not be made public. Sorry
...and now, the Orwellian-named 'faith rescue unit'
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Orwellian indeed. If not for this, this might bring to mind images of stalwart St. Bernard dogs bringing snow-bound Christians large crucifixes and pocket Bibles along with brandy and warm coats.
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The PAS leader said his office was concerned about the issue of proselytisation as troubled Muslims could resort to help from other groups that might lead them away from Islam.
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Those vicious Christians, always helping people! How underhanded! sarc/off
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“This office takes a serious view of the negative perceptions of the state agencies, bodies and voluntary organisations that appear not to help solve the problems of this group of people.
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Well—it's Islam—what did you expect? If you want some Kuffar oppressed, intimidated, or murdered, they're right on it. But humanitarian aid—even for their fellow Muslims? Not so much.
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“It is hoped that Muslims who have received or are thinking of receiving aid from churches or Christian organisations can come to the Islamic Affairs, Malay Culture, Infrastructure and Public Amenities Exco to give their details so that help can be provided immediately,” Hasan said.
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Good luck. Muslims don't have much expertise in this area...
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You know, Christians with their tendency to help anyone and everyone, regardless of their religion -- that's what makes them so dangerous.
The conservative Muslim leader assured such people that his office would help them to avoid being trapped in moves to make them apostates.
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What crap. Christians and other Infidels do not force or coerce conversion—they're just afraid that some decent Muslims will see this freely-given aid, and wonder what could motivate the helpers to be so good. One hint: it's *probably not Islam*...
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Pro-Umno newspapers have been highlighting alleged attempts by Christians to convert Muslims since the Selangor Islamic Religious Department (Jais) raided an evangelical church in Petaling Jaya on August 3. Proselytising Muslims is an offence in Malaysia.
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And that church was fundraising for children's education and AIDS victims. The few decent charity-minded Muslims who came to the fundraiser soon caught the baleful eye of the Malaysian authorities—as did the church itself.
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Umno-owned Utusan Malaysia also reported recently an allegation that underprivileged Muslims living in a squatter area near Old Klang Road were being proselytised by Christians under the guise of free English classes.
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Free English classes—Oh! The humanity!
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Influential cleric Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin, however, said yesterday that Muslims should take care of their own poor instead of accusing Christians of proselytism when churches helped poor Muslims.
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That would actually involve caring about other people—even if it is only other Muslims...
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Tensions between Christians and Muslims have heightened after Jais swooped on the Damansara Utama Methodist Church (DUMC), on claims that it was investigating a complaint that Muslims were being converted at a dinner the church was hosting for a local NGO.
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Christians guilty as charged—of providing non-Sectarian education to poor children regardless of creed, and the same to AIDS patients...really, Infidels are *often* guilty of similar crimes...