Muslim Brotherhood-linked ICNA wants Obama to shut down Spencer, Geller

In the world of the pro-Sharia Muslim Brotherhood front known as the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), my work exposing the activities of Islamic jihadists and the ways in which they use Islamic texts and teachings to justify violence and supremacism constitutes “hate” and “incitement to violence.” They think they found confirmation of this in the murder spree of Norwegian psychopath Anders Breivik, since he cited me (along with John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, Charles Darwin, Barack Obama, the New York Times, and a host of others) in his lengthy and ideologically incoherent “manifesto.”

"ICNA Condemns Terrorist Attacks in Norway," from ICNA, July 24 (thanks to Answering Muslims):

The perpetrator of these attacks was a racist, hateful fascist with a 1500-page manifesto and deliberate plan. He was both xenophobic and Islamophobic and was in contact with numerous European and American anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim personalities. We are horrified that such violence was borne from these views.

The rise of Islamophobia fostered by individuals such as Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller has threatened our communities and prompted such acts of violence. ICNA calls upon the international community and the Obama administration to take action against hate groups and so-called ‘experts on Islam’ who promote this kind of bigotry.

In reality, the idea that any of the counter-jihad activists and writers who the mainstream media and Islamic supremacists have blamed for the Norway attacks is actually responsible for them is absurd, and not just because we have never called for or justified violence. When two people or groups share a belief or perspective, and one of them starts killing, the other is in no way responsible. Otherwise Martin Luther King would be responsible for the Watts riots – and CAIR and ICNA for Islamic jihad terror.

Indeed, it is ironic that the Islamic supremacist groups that are trying to shut down the counter-jihad movement by claiming that our views lead to violence at the same time hotly deny that there is any connection between Islamic teachings and jihad violence – even though Islamic jihadists routinely point to those teachings as their motivation.

The ICNA Islamic supremacist blame game is part of a larger initiative. The 57-government Organization of Islamic Cooperation has been working for years to compel the governments of the U.S. and Europe to criminalize all critical discussion of Islam, thereby rendering them unable to investigate the motives and goals of jihad terrorists, and thus mute and defenseless against the advancing jihad. A key component of this effort in the U.S. today is to demonize and marginalize all the voices speaking out for the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, and the equality of rights of all people – all denied by Islamic law.

This blame game is a threat to the freedom of every American.

And remember: the Muslim Brotherhood, of which ICNA is an arm, is dedicated in its own words to "eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within, and sabotaging its miserable house."

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Lan astaslem! They can't silence all of us! ICNA, the OIC and the quislamists in government be damned!!

There is no greater retrograde or archaic force on planet Earth that reflects a consummate hate for any other ideology or religion then that of the teachings of Islam.

The Islamic trilogy calls for either subjugation, or death to all who are non Muslim.

The teachings of Islam produce the major oppressors of freedom and liberty in the world.

So reciprocally, if the Profit Mohammed was found to be a "racist, hateful fascist with a 1400 year manifesto and deliberate plan", would the Quran be banned?

oh sorry, forgot, Islam never reciprocates

Know Islam, Know Violence
No Islam, No Violence

Damned twarted, that is.

Damned thwarted, that is.

Wherever you see a politician behaving in a way that is contrary to the interests of his country, but favorable to Muslims, then it's likely that he is an OIC-influenced quisling.

Corrupt Western politicians will do all they can to shut down discussion of Islam, because the stealth jihadists have bribed many of them into dhimmitude by paying billions of petrodollars into their secret Swiss bank accounts: http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2011/03/organization-of-islamic-conference-oic.html

And another way of compromising politicians is to offer them the traditional Islamic entertainment of bacha bazi (sex with little boys) in return for political favors: http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/1.html

"The 57-government Organization of Islamic Cooperation (consisting of 57 member states) has been working for years to compel the governments of the U.S. and Europe to criminalize all critical discussion of Islam..."

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In 2008, Barack Obama said: "Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go...."


Generally speaking, I am not conspiratorial. I wonder if this was a Freudian slip?

Poor Fjordman, this whole debacle has practically ruined his life! In all the years of reading his stuff, he never advocated any kind of violence, neither have Mr. Spencer or Ms. Gellar. For shame, these nasty character assasinators!

Fjordman made a mistake by going into hiding.


He should come out writing and publishing instead. He doesn't have to defend himself, he should be on the offense.

Our enemies are laughing at us once again.

All these Islamic groups are not half as bad as the ankle biters and the loons who hold hopnchange more important than the ugly reality.

That includes character assassins like the canniballistic Lizard and the half-baked dilettantes from 'Harry's Place', who have put up at least another 5 posts throwing feces at Spencer/Geller. They tried to play tarbaby, but Spencer was good enugh to destroy them in one go. They are not worthy of more attention.

But don't worry: even on these libtarded sites, the commenters are getting it. This in spite of heavy censorship.

"We are horrified that such violence was borne from these views." That's an opinion, not a logical conclusion from the forgoing data. You could take influence in his life and blame his actions on it. Why pick on anti jihadists. Blame his mother and father. He no doubt spent more time with them.

sheik you may be right, however, in light of all the crap that has been spread about Fjordman, if you were in his shoes, how would you cope with virtually the whole world actually blaming him and thinking he was the one who carried out the attacks in Norway as well as Breivik saying Fjordman was his number one influence. What a shock this must have been. I do believe he needs time away to think about how he is going to handle this. I do not fault him at all in how he is dealing with this mess.

"... a racist, hateful fascist with a 1500-page manifesto..."

My copy of the Koran has about 1750 pages, but apart from than that minor detail the description appears perfect for every Islamic terrorist there has ever been.

Paul, once I believed that a Fascist was an Italian of the interwar years who supported Benito Mussolini.

But, my whole life, I've heard the term "Fascist!" hurled at anyone skeptical of Marxism or critical of the latest Left-wing idol. Hence, while I believe that Mussolini was a/an [**expletive deleted**], love the First Amendment, and would de-centralize American education if I ever had the power to do so [gained via being elected via a constitutional route], I, Kepha, proudly claim the epithet "fascist".

Quote: "ICNA calls upon the international community and the Obama administration to take action against hate groups and so-called ‘experts on Islam’ who promote this kind of bigotry."

I agree. It is essential to close down all mosques and thus stop exactly these kinds of hate groups.

Dictionary definition of a bigot; "An obsessive and intolerant adherent of a particular doctrine or creed"

A quintessentially accurate description of a Muslim.

It is not true what the ICNA asserts, as Robert argues well. But is it even wise? Is going for censorship, as ICNA obviously does, going to help Muslims and mankind?

Or is the opposite true and wise to follow up on? That, yes there are Breiviks out there, other extremists than Islamic extremists, who indeed are obsessive in protecting their perceived culture, civilization against both Islam AND Multiculturalists.

And that there Muslims and Multiculturalists that consistently are refusing to take freedom of speech to it's natural end; debate-marathons, negotiations, compromises. With total avoidance of violence.

Because, even Muslims and Multiculturalists could begin to see that there can really be grievances against them, caused by Islam and Muslims, worldwide. And that by NOT addressing them properly, but only attempting to silence protests against them,

which is what Muslims and Multiculturalist might well be guilty of,

more and more people are attracted to the so-called Islamophobes, or worse, to the Breiviks of the world.

And Breivik did point out that he got nowhere on the democratic peaceful, talking road with the Multiculturalists. He even said that those were favorable towards Muslims precisely because Muslims were not shy to use violence. And that with the Multiculturalists apparently it paid off!

Now, that IS a great warning to Multiculturalists and Muslims, like those of ICNA; Isn't it wiser to negotiate with the good cops among the citizens of democratic nations (most counter-jihadists) openly and painstakingly?

Instead of ignoring and denying all exposures-protests-accountable holdings they bring so long and in such quantities already?

And with that giving strength to the real extreme-Western bad cops (instead of the peaceful Spencer and Geller which are so unjustly and maliciously described as THE Western extremists).

The rise of Islamophobia fostered by individuals such as Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller has threatened our communities and prompted such acts of violence.

When I look at the words in bold above, I think: my, how bold of them.

*** 33:21 ***

Used to be a time when publicly calling for forcible constraint of free speech woulda got you laughed out of the room. Used to be a time when such charges were made that the public would check into the facts of the matter and form a fairly informed opinion.

Not now. Especially when it comes to complaining Moslems.

If I'm not mistaken, the ICNA is the Mo-Bro-Hood group the Minnesota Human Rights Department is working with to solve the urgent problem of Islamophobia in the northland.

Could it just be, maybe, that such aggression is met with such compliancy cuz the group axeing for extra-Constitutional special treatment is scary?

ICNA calls upon the international community and the Obama administration to take action against hate groups and so-called ‘experts on Islam’ who promote this kind of bigotry.

Let me see if I got this right… A 7th century primitive Arab ideology inspired by a then contemporary Warlord worshipping a then popular Moon-god, Allah, and cemented into a conquest war-doctrine by the first Caliphs as codified in their 'holy' book and unilaterally pronounced the "word of God" to inspire jihad warriors to fight and die for booty and slaves, especially female slaves, or in death enjoy the debauch of 72 dew eyed virgins, which after 1400 years of blood, rapine, burning, killing and enslaving, it is now dictating terms? … What????!!!!! … Oh. come on, this can't be real…

Surely it's as much a joke as any true to form Islamic nation proves: by its poverty, economic stagnation, scientific backwardness, atavistic violence, suicide bombers, public beheadings and amputations, public stonings of women and men 'adulterers', hanging of homosexuals, so called 'honor' killings of women, child slavery, sex slavery, systemic pre-pubescent marriage, pedophilia, temporary 'marriages' and multiple wives, approved wife beatings, systemic abuse of power and corruption, regressive oppressive dress codes for women, even men walking around in night shirts, inhumane treatment of animals and people, hostage taking for ransom money, piracy for ransom money, drug trade for jihad money, prohibitions on freedom of thought or one's spiritual beliefs, draconian punishments for apostates, or 'heretics' who dare to question, abolition of non-Muslim missions, prohibition on Christian or Jewish bibles, prohibitions on their places of worship, compulsory recitations by children of their 7th century Arabic Koran, compulsory submission to their dietary conceits, obedience for all to observe their Ramadan daytime famines only relieved by night time debauch, systemic abuse of human rights, and universal hatreds of Israel, or America, of all Western freedoms and democracy, hatred of 'man made' laws in our constitutional rule of law, and so on and so on, while murdering innocents in their wake. Are these the people we are supposed to listen to? Are they even remotely qualified to dictate terms? … Bigotry? … What?? ... Get real!

What part of the planet has the ICNA been living on? The other side of the moon? … Totally crazy. Why would any sane person listen to them? They should be "shut down" with laughter and loud derision, they are so absurd. To "dictate terms" by those who are the most violent on the planet? … This is beyond ridiculous! Total reality disconnect. Shut them down, please.

He hasn't been to "sovereign" Palestine yet.

Fjordman made a mistake by going into hiding.

But Sheik, that can be fatal, especially in a small country like Norway with a gubmint much smitten with the Moslem Way.

*** 33:21 ***

Prez Barack Hussein made an extremely bold move today announcing his diktat that the 20 million Azteks in this country illegally are to be rewarded for their crime with the gift of American citizenship.

There were jokes made quietly during his campaign about African dictator ha ha. But, after overthrowing the Constitution to implement a law not lawfully passed, Obamacare, he must be emboldened with the compliancy of the news entertainers, including btw our news entertainers at Fox News like Hannity, Dobbs, Coulter et al. On the matter of Obamacare having been "deemed" to have passed, silence. Not a peep about the overthrow of the rule of law to take 18% of the U.S. economy over into the socialist clutch.

Could the same breathtaking gap be made to exist for shutting down free speech about Moslems?

*** 33:21 ***

IQ of 287, double-bubble Ivy League Man, Editor of Harvard Law Review... we all know Prez Barack Hussein to be a brilliant man. I wouldn't be half surprised if he went ahaid and made a move on free speech so long as he's swinging for the fences in the final year of his first term.

He's got nothing to lose and everything to gain. For us, it's the reverse, so he'd probably emerge the winner.

"The rise of Islamophobia fostered by individuals such as Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller has threatened our communities and prompted such acts of violence.ICNA calls upon the international community and the Obama administration to take action against hate groups and so-called ‘experts on Islam’ who promote this kind of bigotry."

I am confused what their claim is.What communities have been threatened? Israel ? David Letterman ? Boise,Idaho?
Prompted what acts of violence? They made a man kill his wife?
Will they demand Obama turn off the internet?


I began my journey into this madness after a friend in Amsterdam married a muslim man and after three yrs she had converted to Islam and not allowed to talk to family and friends unless they converted to Islam.

I started researching Islam to determine why/how this was happening and frankly thought sites like this were biased, and many stories were unbelievable after reading them.

Until i read some history and then read some more.I felt like i had fallen down the rabbit hole and landed in the 8th century on LSD.
Invasions,slaughter,castration,rape,torture,slavery:every horror man can commit.In country after country.Century after century.
Then stark reality set in as i tracked story after story in current affairs.Hate,terror,death and destruction.Glee,pleasure and bravado in each deplorable act.
Before i discovered anti-jihadist i worried i was seeing a bizarre conspiracy theory in Islam.Imagining the insidious infiltration and history beginning to repeat itself.

Thankfully Mr.Spencer,Ms.Geller and so many more understood and could demonstrate the facts of Islam clearly and concisely.
I doubt these anti-violent,intelligent "bigots" can save as many lives as muslims take, but i am damn grateful i have been given information by them to defend my rights,family and country.

THANK YOU.

This isn't mine, but I'll repeat it for anyone who hasn't seen it.

It's all part of the master plan-

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris — car burnings, etc.). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam — Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
Source(s):
Atheist

The liberal elitist (supremacist) leftists like to pretend all religions are the same . . . so they can discredit all of them and continue to worship themselves. This fits in nicely with the Islamic deflection that, even though their "religion" mandates the abuse, plunder, rape, and murder of non-Muslims, they can deflect responsibility for such behavior by declaring that all other religions do the same and that they are victims of these other religions. Apparently, Robert Spencer is also a threat for exposing the truth about Islamic teaching and, in the political jihad branch of the global jihad, must be made to appear to be just as depraved in inciting hatred and violence as Islamic jihadists.

If under U.S. law you cannot go to court with dirty hands (suing for something when you are guilty as well), they must think that merely saying you are responsible for inciting hatred and violence makes your hands dirty as well. Such is the Achilles Heal of supremacists: arrogance. I hope you keep disputing their baseless rhetoric and claims and keep on exposing the truth about Islamic doctrine.

How ironic that when Islamic jihadists carry out their jihad crimes against non-Muslims, they claim insanity and dive for the "loophole" of an insanity defense. They do this to avoid consequences and to protect the Islamic teaching which was being followed from scrutiny. But, when a truly insane person commits atrocious crimes, his mad ravings are then used by the global jihad to analyze motivation for the crimes and place blame on those the insane person mentions in his insane ravings. Is the irony so hard to see?

Muslims are required to "submit" to Islamic teaching without thinking, without questioning, without reasoning for themselves. They are then rewarded with the Islamic benefits of supremacy and privilege over non-Muslims, and the promise of being able to plunder, abuse, rape, and even murder non-Muslims with impunity under Islamic law. But, when we non-Muslims are expected to submit, we should resist, think for ourselves, and refuse to be conditioned.

Liana

welcome.

glad you found some answers here.

Your story - like that of so many others who have shared how it was that they 'woke up' to what one Hugh Fitzgerald, frequent poster at this site in previous years, calls "the meaning and menace of Islam" - is fascinating, and also heartening.

I have tucked a copy away in a file I call 'raising the alarm'.

And since you said that part of the wake up call involved reading some history - "Until i read some history and then read some more.I felt like i had fallen down the rabbit hole and landed in the 8th century on LSD" - I think you will enjoy this classic essay by that Mr 'Hugh Fitzgerald', entitled "The Unsung History Boys":

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/fitzgerald-the-unsung-history-boys.html

"The keenest and most aware, in every part of the Western world, are now engaged in one vast, but not collective, History Lesson...".

Read it all, it's well worth it.


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