Non Muslim Malaysians urged to not fear Islam

Now why would the 'kuffar', the non Muslims, of Malaysia or anywhere else for that matter, have anything to fear in regards to Islam? Thinking about this question, let alone trying to honestly answer it, has already been either criminalized or heavily discouraged in many places in the world. So should non Muslims fear Islam? Well, anyone still in doubt should perhaps ask the Copts, the Baha'i, the Jews, or other Christians in many other places.

This story comes out of Malaysia, but could apply on a much larger canvas. Muslims here and elsewhere would prefer that infidels remain oblivious and ignorant. You may not care too much about Islam, but Islam in fact very much 'cares' about you. So the Muslims constant exhort us to relax, infidels, and go back to sleep. "Nothing to fear over calls for Muslim unity, says DPM", by Hamdan Raja Abdullah, The Star, 22 August 2011:
MUAR: Non-Muslims in the country have been urged not to feel apprehensive over calls made by leaders for the Muslims to unite.

Deputy Prime Minister [DPM] Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin said that as the core community, unity among the Muslims was important for the country’s stability.

This, he said, would also benefit other communities.

Muhyiddin, speaking at the Pagoh Umno division Quran recital session, said it was vital for Muslims to unite under one group to strengthen solidarity.

“I mention this matter because former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad had recently said that Muslims in the country have split into three or four groups.

“The splits can be due to political differences or other reasons, and this can weaken the Muslims,” he said.

Muhyiddin, who was accompanied by his wife Puan Sri Norainee Abdul Rahman, said Malaysia had been a model Islamic nation since Independence.

He said that for the past 54 years, the people of various races and religious beliefs had enjoyed peace, prosperity and development, including in education.

Peace in a proclaimed 'Islamic state'? You mean peacefully submitting to Islamic supremacism and foregoing one's freedom forever?
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There's nothing to fear, just convert or accept dhimmi status. What's the big deal? At least in a muslim society you won't be left alone to run your own life and be condemned to your infidelity. As a kufur, you actually need the Islamic state to "care" for you, because you are inferior and incapable of making your own decisions anyway.

/truth syrum off

No need to fear Islam? Oh yeah?

I'm not falling for that one. I've already seen Tim Burton's "Mars Attacks"...

"Ack! Ack! Ack!" translated "Don't be afraid. It's all just a misunderstanding. We're here as friends!" Then the death and destruction happens. The same stunt is pulled over and over again. Who knew Burton was so prescient?

And is the Slim Whitman soundtrack our only defense?

Of course, Islam is based on inculcating fear.

No need to fear Islam as long as you go along with everything that Islam requires, including subservient status for non-Muslims, Muslim men being able to marry non-Muslim women but non-Muslim men not being permitted to marry Muslim women, no criticism of Islam or Mohammed, no leaving Islam for another religion, no..., no..., no... Oh yeah, no need to fear (loathe would be more like it) Islam. No reason at all.

CLIMATE OF FEAR AND INTIMIDATION: ARE THE LIGHTS GOING OUT?:

Here's a very incomplete list of organizations or people self-censoring, or hiring bodyguards, or going into hiding, or taking other precautions, and sometimes getting killed or wounded after receiving death threats and violence from Muslims following the example of Muhammad, who said there would be no punishment for murdering someone who had insulted him.

Talk-show host David Letterman (Frequent commenter at Al Qaeda website calls on Muslims to cut out Letterman's tongue and kill him.)

Yale University Press (self-censors in response to Muslim death threats);

Metropolitan Museum of Art (self-censors in response to Muslim death threats);

Hollywood (self-censors by canceling a movie project about Jews in Malmo, Sweden, after learning of frequent Muslim threats and acts of violence against Jews in Malmo);

National Archives of Canada (self-censors in response to Muslim death threats);

Director of the museum in the Hague, Wim van Krimpen (self-censors in response to Muslim death threats);

UK religious studies teacher Gary Smith (Muslims hit him over the head with an iron bar, fracturing his skull, hemmorhaging his brain, breaking his jaw, and slashing his face, for not teaching Islam as they deem apprpropriate)

Norwegian politicians (Iraqi-born cleric Mullah Krekar threatens politicians with death if he's deported from Norway).

State Senator Greg Ball (receives suspicious package with greeting "Asa Lamu Laikum Dead Man Walking," (the first part of which is Arabic for "peace be upon you") ;

2010 Tennessee candidate for Congress Lou Ann Zelenikj (death threats from Muslims);

Barrister Tom Zreika (seeks police protection after non-stop phone threats from Muslims);

Japanese translator of Rushdie, Hitoshi Igarashi (murdered);

Norwiegan translator of Rushdie, William Nygaard (shot);

Italian translator of Rushdie, Ettore Capriolo (knifed);

French singer Veronique Sanson (self-censors in response to Muslim death threats);

Artist Molly Norris (self-censors in response to Muslim death threats, changed name, went into hiding);

The producers of South Park (self-censor in response to Muslim death threats);

Journalist Lawrence O'Donnell (self-censors in response to Muslim death threats);

Cartoonist Lars Vilks (house firebombed);

Philosopher Robert Redeker (in hiding, under government protection);

Filmmaker Theo Van Gogh (murdered);

Author and former member of Dutch parliament Hirsi Ali (full-time bodyguards);

Author Salman Rushdie (in hiding, under UK govt. protection);

Danish newspaper Jyllands Posten (bodyguards hired);

And again Jyllands Posten (five jihadists discovered planning to shoot as many people as possible);

Atheist Sabri Husibi (death threats from Muslims);

Lyricist Javed Akhtar (death threats from Muslims);

Cartoonist Kurt Westergaard (almost killed by a Muslim with an axe);

Director of the film 2012; the comedian Penn Jillette; the British potter Grayson Perry (all three self-censor in response to Muslim death threats);

Lawyer Majed Moughni (death threat from Muslim);

Author Taslima Nasreen (self-censors in response to Muslim death threats);

Disc jockey/musician Jakub Rene Kosik (self-censors in response to Muslim death threats);

Coptic Orthodox priest Zakaria Botros (Al Qaeda bounty of $60 million on his head);

Pop star Deeyah (hires extra bodyguards);

Politician Shiria Khatun (forced by Muslim threats to her children to dress in a "less Western" manner);

Christian minister Dr. Peter Hammond
(death threat from Muslim);

Actor Omar Sharif (Muslims call for his murder);

Artist Sooreh Hera (self-censors in response to Muslim threats and forced into hiding);

Artist Sarah Maple (gallery workers threatened, gallery window smashed, 24-hour police protection);

Beatle Paul McCartney (death threats from Muslims);

150 Austrian Coptic Christians (Austrian interior ministry found jihadist list targeting each of them for violent attack);

100+ Canadian-Arab Christians (each one targeted on an Al Qaeda website);

Volvo and Ikea (threatened by terrorist group);

UK Muslim scientist Usama Hasan (self-censors in response to Muslim death threats);

Islam expert Robert Spencer gets a death threat; and another death threat; and another death threat; and yet anoth...well, you get the idea.

Robert Spencer continues to speak out, but countless others are self-censoring in response to the climate of intimidation. The lights are going out. The growth of Islam means the death of civil liberties. It's time to resist.

From the essay "Communism and Islam" in International Affairs, Vol. 30, No. 1 (Jan., 1954), pp. 1-12, here is Bernard Lewis on Islam's inherent totalitarianism:

I turn now from the accidental to the essential factors, to those deriving from the very nature of Islamic society, tradition, and thought. The first of these is the authoritarianism, perhaps we may even say the totalitarianism, of the Islamic political tradition...Many attempts have been made to show that Islam and democracy are identical -- attempts usually based on a misunderstanding of Islam or democracy or both...In point of fact, except for the early caliphate, when the anarchic individualism of tribal Arabia was still effective, the political history of Islam is one of almost unrelieved autocracy...[I]t was authoritarian, often arbitrary, sometimes tyrannical. There are no parliaments or representative assemblies of any kind, no councils or communes, no chambers of nobility or estates, no municipalities in the history of Islam; nothing but the sovereign power, to which the subject owed complete and unwavering obedience as a religious duty imposed by the Holy Law. In the great days of classical Islam this duty was only owed to the lawfully appointed caliph, as God's vicegerent on earth and head of the theocratic community, and then only for as long as he upheld the law; but with the decline of the caliphate and the growth of military dictatorship, Muslim jurists and theologians accommodated their teachings to the changed situation and extended the religious duty of obedience to any effective authority, however impious, however barbarous. For the last thousand years, the political thinking of Islam has been dominated by such maxims as "tyranny is better than anarchy" and "whose power is established, obedience to him is incumbent."
...Quite obviously, the Ulama of Islam are very different from the Communist Party. Nevertheless, on closer examination, we find certain uncomfortable resemblances. Both groups profess a totalitarian doctrine, with complete and final answers to all questions on heaven and earth; the answers are different in every respect, alike only in their finality and completeness, and in the contrast they offer with the eternal questioning of Western man. Both groups offer to their members and followers the agreeable sensation of belonging to a community of believers, who are always right, as against an outer world of unbelievers, who are always wrong. Both offer an exhilarating feeling of mission, of purpose, of being engaged in a collective adventure to accelerate the historically inevitable victory of the true faith over the infidel evil-doers. The traditional Islamic division of the world into the House of Islam and the House of War, two necessarily opposed groups, of which- the first has the collective obligation of perpetual struggle against the second, also has obvious parallels in the Communist view of world affairs. There again, the content of belief is utterly different, but the aggressive fanaticism of the believer is the same. The humorist who summed up the Communist creed as "There is no God and Karl Marx is his Prophet!" was laying his finger on a real affinity. The call to a Communist Jihad, a Holy War for the faith -- a new faith, but against the self-same Western Christian enemy -- might well strike a responsive note.

In core Islamic texts, Muhammad says your "lives and property" are not safe from him unless you become a Muslim

In Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, the two most canonical hadith collections:

Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 25:

Narrated Ibn 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform all that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number 5917:

...Ali went a bit and then halted and did not look about and then said in a loud voice: Allah's Messenger, on what issue should I fight with the people? Thereupon he (the Prophet) said: Fight with them until they bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger, and when they do that then their blood and their riches are inviolable from your hands but what is justified by law and their reckoning is with Allah.

In core Islamic texts, Muhammad refers to help from terror, his right to spoils of war, and his mission to all mankind; says he is superior to the other prophets and is the final prophet (which of course means that no one may ever amend his teaching)

In a canonical hadith collection, Sahih Muslim:

Book 4, Number 1062:

Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) said: I have been given superiority over the other prophets in six respects: I have been given words which are concise but comprehensive in meaning; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies): spoils have been made lawful to me: the earth has been made for me clean and a place of worship; I have been sent to all mankind and the line of prophets is closed with me.

Terror and beheading in the Quran

Qur'an Chapter 8, Verse 12:

When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

In the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, pages 511-517 (758-766 in the Arabic) we learn how in Khaybar Muhammad ordered the torture of a man in order to get hold of a treasure, then beheaded the man, and how that night Muhammad took into his private tent for consummation of "marriage" the tortured man's widow, whose father and other male relatives Muhammad had just killed:

Kinana b. al-Rabi', who had the custody of the treasure of the B. al-Nadir, was brought to the apostle who asked him about it. He denied that he knew where it was. A Jew came (Tabari says "was brought") to the apostle and said that he had seen Kinana going round a certain ruin every morning early. When the apostle [Muhammad] said to Kinana, 'Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?' he said Yes. The apostle gave orders that the ruin was to be excavated and some of the treasure was found. When he asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle [Muhammad] gave orders to al-Zubayr b. al-'Awwam, 'Torture him until you extract what he has,' so he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama and he struck off his head in revenge for his brother Mahmud. [-- page 515 (763-764 in the Arabic)]
...The apostle took captives...among whom was Safiya d. Huyayy b. Akhtab who had been the wife of Kinana b. al-Rabi’ b. Abu’l-Huqayq, and two cousins of hers. The apostle chose Safiya for himself. [-- page 511 (758 in the Arabic)]
When the apostle married Safiya in Khaybar or on the way, she having been beautified and combed, and got in a fit state for the apostle by Umm Sulaym d. Milhan mother of Anas b. Malik, the apostle passed the night with her in a tent of his. Abu Ayyub, Khalid b. Zayd brother of B. al-Najjar passed the night girt with his sword, guarding the apostle and going round the tent until in the morning the apostle saw him and asked him what he meant by his action. He replied, ‘I was afraid for you with this woman for you have killed her father, her husband, and her people, and till recently she was in unbelief, so I was afraid for you on her account.’ They allege that the apostle said ‘O God, preserve Abu Ayyub as he spent the night preserving me.’ [-- page 516-517 (766 in the Arabic)]

Hey thanks, traeh, for posting the truths about Islam and Mo/allah right from horses mouth,Islamic texts. While the non-believers believe them, the believers don't(or try to hide them)for fear of being exposed!!!

Political Islam – The Annihilation of Civilizations “…Islam is at war with Kafirs [kuffar], and Kafirs are trying to “nice” their way out of destruction. Islam is at war, we are at nice. Mohammed has a dream that is coming true while we sleep.”

Wellington wrote:

No need to fear Islam as long as you go along with everything that Islam requires, including subservient status for non-Muslims...
...............................

And, of course, so often even the most cringing dhimmitude is simply not enough, and some poor Infidel is falsely charged with "blasphemy", or is harassed or even killed for the supposed crimes against Islam of his distant coreligionists, or where the Infidels are attacked out of general Muslim frustration with other matters, or merely as a periodic to Infidels that they are always insecure under Islam, and must not be allowed to consider themselves as citizens with actual rights, but merely as despised Infidels allowed to exist unmolested on Muslim sufferance.

oh yes.. mention the messianic muslim baha'i..

Spencer.. do yourself a favor and research their doctrine and infiltration..

stop using them as 'favored' victims please..

especially now that the Aga Kahn isn't a 'victim' anymore..

I still haven't been refuted as to the baha'i evil designs..

persecution is NO EXCUSE for doing a job for muslims.. and that is the destruction of Judeo-Christianity..

What does the Mahdi do? What does the second coming of Isa do?

How is 'Unity in Diversity' playing out?

Fruits..

I want an article from Spencer detailing the origin of the faith in multiculturalism..

do that Robert.. do it without mentioning the baha'i

I DARE YOU

grungyoldvan wrote:

oh yes.. mention the messianic muslim baha'i..

Spencer.. do yourself a favor and research their doctrine and infiltration..

stop using them as 'favored' victims please..

I want an article from Spencer detailing the origin of the faith in multiculturalism..

do that Robert.. do it without mentioning the baha'i

I DARE YOU
...............................

I'm not at all sure why you're being so hostile to Robert Spencer here. He has mentioned on many occasions that both the Baha'i and the Ahmadi are both victims of *and* apologists for mainstream Islam.

As for multiculturalism, that term dates back to the 1940s in academic circles, gaining much wider exposure during the 1960s and 1970s. While the Baha'i have indeed taken full advantage of the concept and presented themselves as a peaceful and even "cool" example of the Islamic tradition, they hardly coined or popularized the term themselves.

The truth is, the Baha'i are still not very widely known in the West, while the Ahmadi usually present themselves as a mainstream Islamic sect—carefully avoiding mention that they are regarded by orthodox Muslims as heretics, and are oppressed, harassed, and even murdered as a result.

Anyone who was reading here a few years back will remember the egregious poster "Naseem", who dreamed of mass Western conversion to Ahmadi Islam—she called them "Wuslims"—both as the fulfillment of Da'wa and as a hedge against Islamic aggression—but she was willing to spread Islam at any price.

What? Malaysians are peaceful muslims! No muslims are forcing sharia law on non-muslims, it's for Muslims only! And HAMAS doesn't want to kill the jews! A Malaysian Muslim told me so, so it must be truuuee! (Also,I found out Christians are >:( for rejecting mohammad, and beleiving in Christ since the bible warns of future deceivers. :P )

(Do I really need to say /sarc? :P )

the baha'i are older than the '40's'

look up the exploits of abdul baha and the over 100 year old baha'i presence in America..

the baha'i are not well known.. that's how they like it..

just saying.. evil does not deserve to be treated like victims just because they are persecuted by muslims..

am I supposed to have sympathy for the devil?

This is like the Pol Pot who demanded that those they were torturing to death must not scream or weep, but smile for them (the torturers).

Muslims demand not only that their victims submit to being robbed, raped, abused, cursed, spat on, and generally treated like garbage all day long, but that they must smile and flatter and 'stroke' the abusers and tell them what wonderful wonderful people they are...even while the abuse is going on.

No Screaming Allowed.

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