“Occupation without tanks or soldiers”: “No-go” zones for non-Muslims proliferating in Europe

Of course, this topic is largely off-limits for discussion for fear of the appearance of “Islamophobia,” on one hand, and for fear of sparking riots in the afflicted areas of European cities on the other. “European ‘No-Go’ Zones for Non-Muslims Proliferating,” by Soeren Kern for Hudson New York, August 22 (thanks to RK):

Islamic extremists are stepping up the creation of “no-go” areas in European cities that are off-limits to non-Muslims.

Many of the “no-go” zones function as microstates governed by Islamic Sharia law. Host-country authorities effectively have lost control in these areas and in many instances are unable to provide even basic public aid such as police, fire fighting and ambulance services.

The “no-go” areas are the by-product of decades of multicultural policies that have encouraged Muslim immigrants to create parallel societies and remain segregated rather than become integrated into their European host nations.

In Britain, for example, a Muslim group called Muslims Against the Crusades has launched a campaign to turn twelve British cities — including what it calls “Londonistan” — into independent Islamic states. The so-called Islamic Emirates would function as autonomous enclaves ruled by Islamic Sharia law and operate entirely outside British jurisprudence.

The Islamic Emirates Project names the British cities of Birmingham, Bradford, Derby, Dewsbury, Leeds, Leicester, Liverpool, Luton, Manchester, Sheffield, as well as Waltham Forest in northeast London and Tower Hamlets in East London as territories to be targeted for blanket Sharia rule.

In the Tower Hamlets area of East London (also known as the Islamic Republic of Tower Hamlets), for example, extremist Muslim preachers, called the Tower Hamlets Taliban, regularly issue death threats to women who refuse to wear Islamic veils. Neighborhood streets have been plastered with posters declaring “You are entering a Sharia controlled zone: Islamic rules enforced.” And street advertising deemed offensive to Muslims is regularly vandalized or blacked out with spray paint.

In the Bury Park area of Luton, Muslims have been accused of “ethnic cleansing” by harassing non-Muslims to the point that many of them move out of Muslim neighborhoods. In the West Midlands, two Christian preachers have been accused of “hate crimes” for handing out gospel leaflets in a predominantly Muslim area of Birmingham. In Leytonstone in east London, the Muslim extremist Abu Izzadeen heckled the former Home Secretary John Reid by saying: “How dare you come to a Muslim area.”

In France, large swaths of Muslim neighborhoods are now considered “no-go” zones by French police. At last count, there are 751 Sensitive Urban Zones (Zones Urbaines Sensibles, ZUS), as they are euphemistically called. A complete list of the ZUS can be found on a French government website, complete with satellite maps and precise street demarcations. An estimated 5 million Muslims live in the ZUS, parts of France over which the French state has lost control.

Muslim immigrants are taking control of other parts of France too. In Paris and other French cities with high Muslim populations, such as Lyons, Marseilles and Toulouse, thousands of Muslims are closing off streets and sidewalks (and by extension, are closing down local businesses and trapping non-Muslim residents in their homes and offices) to accommodate overflowing crowds for Friday prayers. Some mosques have also begun broadcasting sermons and chants of “Allahu Akbar” via loudspeakers into the streets.

The weekly spectacles, which have been documented by dozens of videos posted on Youtube.com [links at the Hudson NY site above], and which have been denounced as an “occupation without tanks or soldiers,” have provoked anger and disbelief. But despite many public complaints, local authorities have declined to intervene because they are afraid of sparking riots.

In the Belgian capital of Brussels (which is 20% Muslim), several immigrant neighborhoods have become “no-go” zones for police officers, who frequently are pelted with rocks by Muslim youth. In the Kuregem district of Brussels, which often resembles an urban war zone, police are forced to patrol the area with two police cars: one car to carry out the patrols and another car to prevent the first car from being attacked. In the Molenbeek district of Brussels, police have been ordered not to drink coffee or eat a sandwich in public during the Islamic month of Ramadan.

In Germany, Chief Police Commissioner Bernhard Witthaut, in an August 1 interview with the newspaper Der Westen, revealed that Muslim immigrants are imposing “no-go” zones in cities across Germany at an alarming rate.

The interviewer asked Witthaut: “Are there urban areas — for example in the Ruhr — districts and housing blocks that are “no-go areas,” meaning that they can no longer be secured by the police?” Witthaut replied: “Every police commissioner and interior minister will deny it. But of course we know where we can go with the police car and where, even initially, only with the personnel carrier. The reason is that our colleagues can no longer feel safe there in twos, and have to fear becoming the victim of a crime themselves. We know that these areas exist. Even worse: in these areas crimes no longer result in charges. They are left ‘to themselves.’ Only in the worst cases do we in the police learn anything about it. The power of the state is completely out of the picture.”

In Italy, Muslims have been commandeering the Piazza Venezia in Rome for public prayers. In Bologna, Muslims repeatedly have threatened to bomb the San Petronio cathedral because it contains a 600-year-old fresco inspired by Dante’s Inferno which depicts Mohammed being tormented in hell.

In the Netherlands, a Dutch court ordered the government to release to the public a politically incorrect list of 40 “no-go” zones in Holland. The top five Muslim problem neighborhoods are in Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Utrecht. The Kolenkit area in Amsterdam is the number one Muslim “problem district” in the country. The next three districts are in Rotterdam — Pendrecht, het Oude Noorden and Bloemhof. The Ondiep district in Utrecht is in the fifth position, followed by Rivierenwijk (Deventer), Spangen (Rotterdam), Oude Westen (Rotterdam), Heechterp/ Schieringen (Leeuwarden) and Noord-Oost (Maastricht).

In Sweden, which has some of the most liberal immigration laws in Europe, large swaths of the southern city of Malmö — which is more than 25% Muslim — are “no-go” zones for non-Muslims. Fire and emergency workers, for example, refuse to enter Malmö’s mostly Muslim Rosengaard district without police escorts. The male unemployment rate in Rosengaard is estimated to be above 80%. When fire fighters attempted to put out a fire at Malmö’s main mosque, they were attacked by stone throwers.

In the Swedish city of Gothenburg, Muslim youth have been hurling petrol bombs at police cars. In the city’s Angered district [how appropriate – ed.], where more than 15 police cars have been destroyed, teenagers have also been pointing green lasers at the eyes of police officers, some of whom have been temporarily blinded.

In Gothenburg’s Backa district, youth have been throwing stones at patrolling officers. Gothenburg police have also been struggling to deal with the problem of Muslim teenagers burning cars and attacking emergency services in several areas of the city.

According to the Malmö-based Imam Adly Abu Hajar: “Sweden is the best Islamic state.”

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  1. says

    Birds of a feather flock together. The strong breeds do, at least. The weak breeds, flightless poultry species doomed for food processing plants, pump their talons as fast as they can to run over the edge of the cliff like so many Do Do Birds.

    *** 33:21 ***

    Yeah, I know, Do Do Birds are birds and not small rodents so the analogy is bad. But the cliff is the same. Especially at the bottom.

  2. says

    Shocking and disgracefull. Consider the huge sacrifice made by the allied forces in WW2 to rescue Europe from the tyranny of Nazism only to have them/us voluntarily lay down in the face of threats from Islamic fascism and not lift a finger to protect themselves/ourselves.

  3. says

    According to Nostradamus, Marseille will be a huge and important battleground in the upcoming World War III.

    It starts with the following verse which states that France will take in Mohammedans, he predicted it 500 years ago and it happens in our days, so there is no question to doubt his predictions, it’s here, just read :

    Century I quatrain 18

    Because of French discord and negligence,
    an entrance will be open for Mohammed:
    The land & sea of Siena will be soaked in blood,
    and the port of Marseilles covered with ships & sails.

    In this verse Nostradamus mentions Marseille for the first time, then in the next verse he mentions a very real and dangerous threat to our times, he says clearly that when Marseille will be totally changed of inhabitants a pursue will take place that will cost the life of one million people.

    In 2002 there was 70 percent of the inhabitants of Marseille of foreign origin, so the time that this will happen is very near, just read the verse.

    Century I quatrian 72

    When the inhabitants of Marseilles are completely changed,
    fleeing & pursued as far as Lyons,
    Narbonne, Toulouse angered by Bordeaux,
    the killed captives are almost one million.

    The next verse talks about the eternal law of Karma, according me, it’s my own interpretation, because the law of cause and effect is just as an eternal chain where out you cannot escape, action ->reaction. I don’t know if Marseille will be liberated here or conquered by the Islamic enemy

    Century III quatrain 79

    The fatal everlasting order according to the chain,
    Will come to turn through consistent order:
    The chain of Marseilles will be broken,
    The city taken, the enemy at the same time.

    In this next verse Nostradamus predicts that in the time that an Iranian demon (satyr) will present a gift to the people of the Ocean, Atlantic states, he will simultaneously sent a fleet that will conquer Phocaean, an ancient name for Marseille. So there will de deceit.

    Century III quatrain 90

    The great Satyr & Tiger of Hyrcania (Persia = Iran),
    Presents a gift to those of the Ocean:
    A fleet’s chief will set out from Carmania,
    One who will conquer land at the Tyrren Phocaean (Marseille).

    And in the coming verse Nostradamus foresees that an allied fleet will march against the East front of the coming war, namely Venice and Hungary, where the Islamic armies have their basis.

    Century IX quatrain 28

    The Allied fleet from the port of Marseilles,
    In Venice harbor to march against Pannons (Hungary).
    To leave from the gulf & the bay of Illyria
    Devastation in Sicily, for the Ligurians cannon shot.

    And the next verse is the one we all are waiting for, namely one of the few predictions of Nostradamus that Islam will be defeated, it will be the last battle against Islam, which is mentioned here as the great crescent, the moon or crescent is always symbolic for Islam.

    Century VII quatrain 7

    The battle of the great light horses,
    It will be claimed that the great crescent is destroyed.
    Killings by night, in the mountains, dressed in shepherd’s’ clothing,
    red gulfs in the deep ditch.

    Although Nostradamus is a prophet of doom, so to speak, he carries also a good message, and that is that Islam will be wiped out !!!!!

    I say good message because they are going to try to submit us and discriminate us as Kaffirs, we have to pay their Islamic tax to stay alive.

  4. says

    Police can tear down these signs, arrest & prosecute, etc, and stop all this nonsense, but then it would not be soft-touch sucker Britain the laughing Muslim immigrants have come to love.

  5. says

    Serves Brits right!!1 They have loved Muslims so much that they allowed unrestricted Muslim immigration in to Britain and this was in spite of what they saw the Muslim behavior during their Raj days in India. Now the Islam and Muslims are trying to take over Britain and yet the Brits do not realize it. With the Muslim demographic bomb, I think Britain and Europe are doomed to dhimmitude or they are all going to convert and be part of the Caliphate.

    It remains to USA to fight this war of Islamic encroachment all over the world. If PC/MC people succeed here, we will lose this war!!

  6. says

    The question we gotta axe is, was Tim Russert’s Holy Prophet Mohammed just lucky, or was he really able to see this far down the road, and know ahaid of time that Islam’s ill-gotten status as a religion would one day be the Infidel’s downfall.

    Could be. We know from Prez Barack Hussein, who reportedly has an IQ of 287 and a fine Ivy League education, that it was the Moslems who kept the light of learning aflame just long enough for the Judeo-Christians to have delivered the Renaissance and Enlightenment, so maybe Mohammed had something there.

    *** 33:21 ***

    287 puts him up there with Leonardo, Einstein, Bohr and even maybe Sir Isaac Newton… so don’t be too optimistic on how things are gonna play out. The Hope and Change thing was bullsheet, sure, but Barack Hussein’s vision goes much deeper than a mere electoral palliative from David Axelrod.

  7. says

    Spreading like cancer. And this was a cancer deliberately courted by the elites, the vast majority of whom are still in denial that anything’s amiss. Major therapy is needed now to stop the spread of this cancer and such therapy has about as much chance of being applied immediately as does a cancer patient waiting for treatment from the British national health service has of getting chemotherapy or radiation forthwith.

    What a mess and mostly because it was assumed that Islam is just another religion. Well, it isn’t.

  8. says

    It seems the lights are going out all over Europe (and elsewhere) thanks to Islamofascism. This darkness of Islam may last until Jesus, the true light, returns. But be of good cheer Jesus has overcome the world and WILL soon crush Satan and (Islam’s false messiah) under our feet,(Romans116;20).

  9. says

    The funniest part about all this is that once Islam has “conquered” these cities in whatever country they are in as far as the muslims are concerned its THEIR land now…meaning that they will have to keep fighting for control of it perpetually.

    These idiot leaders who allow muslims to get this far in ay country should be lynched.

  10. says

    Here are some excerpts from the link to the Dutch zones:

    “THE HAGUE, 10/02/09 – Kolenkit in Amsterdam is according to the government the number one ‘problem district’ in the Netherlands. The largest number of districts where people would rather not go are in Rotterdam.

    “In 2007, the housing ministry selected 40 districts throughout the Netherlands to be transformed in the next eight years from ‘problem districts’ to ‘dream districts.’

    “The government did give the names of the districts but refused to disclose the ranking order of the Top 40….

    “The Top 20 of this list has now been obtained by RTL Nieuws and been published by this TV programme….

    “The problem districts in the Top 20 are characterised by a high density of government-owned housing, high unemployment, crime, nuisance by youngsters, and many immigrants. In Kolenkit, 80 percent of the residents are immigrants.”

    So the authorities are admitting that there’s a problem, but still refusing to name the problem, still refusing to stop adding to the problem, and not thinking of any way of eliminating the problem.

    From ‘problem districts’ to ‘dream districts': somebody is dreaming, that’s for sure.

    Note the sequence of characteristics of the problem areas: gov’t housing, unemployment, crime, juvenile delinquency, and many immigrants. Islam, the real source of the problem, is not mentioned at all; and immigrants are mentioned as the fifth (of five) characteristics.

    So, as of Oct, 2009, the Dutch still their heads buried in the sand, unwilling to face reality.

    As for dreams, I’m sure that the Moslems have their own dreams for these districts, and for the rest of the country as well. And unlike the Dutch authorities, they already have well thought out plans and procedures for making their dreams into reality.

  11. says

    It does make one feel sorry for the Muslims who do leave the wastelands to come to a free country where they can have a peaceful life.
    They get there and these nutcase shitria types have to ruin it for them.
    And of course, knowing what they know, they certainly are too afraid to stand against these psychos.

  12. says

    These Islamic neighborhoods are not no-go zones as far as pilfering maximum welfare, housing and medical benefits from the infidel. The infidel is always supposed to pay Jizya and otherwise pay and pay and pay for the Ummah. It’s the Muslim way to be big fat parasites

  13. says

    “…teenagers have also been pointing green lasers at the eyes of police officers, some of whom have been temporarily blinded”.

    Dumb founded as one may be; it is totally unjustifiable as to why the main stream press have not, and are still not doing a good job in sensibilizing the Governments infected or affecte, and the general public about this insurgence and dangerous cultic religious occupation.

    In other wards; finally, like driving to the end of a concourse, where there no turning space; the MSM has succeeded in murdering the civil society that earlier all, sacrificed all and all for the freedom of Press.

    Congratulations (sic) to them all!!! – Especially the honourable BBC. (aka The British Bags of Corn).

  14. says

    This one should go out via email to family and friends…with a caption such as “Good-bye to Europe”…and a warning for those in America and Australia that this is a glimpse of the future unless Muslim immigration is restricted.

  15. says

    Lybia, the lesson:

    The template has now been set for treating any and all civil wars as a call for the OIC-dominated UN to take action.

    Adam Chaudry’s Sharia Zone initiative can be treated in like manner, where his efforts at liberating the UK from the absence of complete totalitarian domination by Imams (or himself) must be supported by internationally sanctioned forces.

    What of the same from Dearbornistan? The calls for Islamic Hell on Earth know no bounds, other than eventually being smashed by force, if at all.

  16. says

    I have lived my life (at least the last 25 yrs) trying not to purposely upset people (my Mom told me to). But this is getting ridiculous! No farting zones and now areas in England where non-Muslims can’t go? I really think its time to rethink our immigration policy. If this is Islam, the religion of peace, at work, you can have it. Where are the men of England as an article said the other day? Is this really the nation that Nazi Germany couldn’t bring to its knees no matter what they did to it? And we’re supposed to believe that this is one of our most trustworthy allies? Good heavens folks, will somebody please wake the British up?

  17. says

    Unless something is done fast these areas will grow and devour those countries until there is nothing but small islands of non believers adrift in an ocean of hijabs,a silent area except for the call to prayer,surrounded by unrelievable pressure from persecution and terror threats,kind of like Israel.

    Unfortunately it is not only in Europe.It already exists in the U.S. and continues growing as Obama drags in more immigrants that create more segregated,racists communities,take minority jobs,clog courts with frivolous lawsuits and feed off social programs.

  18. says

    Attitude. One has to look on the bright side.

    “We’re surrounded. That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them.”

    Lieutenant General Lewis Burwell “Chesty” Puller, 1898 – 1971.

  19. says

    This is a betrayal of national security by the ruling class. My only question is whether the Islamification will go unchallenged or whether there are still enough old-stock Europeans with real balls who will resist, consequently leading to some civil wars.

  20. says

    One of the most important things in that article is the link to the French Government published list of No Go Zones.

    That it is published by the FRENCH GOVERNMENT is damning evidence that this is not paranoid raving or over exagguration.

    This is an excellent tool for arguments. People I meet always argue that the stories about NGZs are unsupported by facts. Well there is the fact.

    Everyone who reads this article should FAVORITE that link right away before they forget where they saw it. You can use it to support your conversations on the subject.

  21. says

    Please, friends,
    Do not write Europe off yet.
    There is not only western Europe, Europe governed by self-hating elderly leftists revolutionaries, folks who never grew up and had not noticed that their “revolution” have become establishment now, formed by the most silly and ridiculous pseudo-elites ever; Europe whose native population consists of pepople who partly resigned, partly are corrupted and hence selectively blind, and these two parts viscerally hate the small pockets of Resistence poping up there and there.

    There is another Europe, East-Central one, those “new EU countries” We still have very low presence of muslims, but we see what has happened in the West. We watch it in shock, as we loved the West, which was a beacon of freedom for us for decades.
    But we are optimistic. Ordinary folks, indluding young generation, seem to understand islamic both totalitarism nd PCMC foolishness (in pools, pro-PCMC issues never get over 20%). We now have freedom of speach undreamed of in countries such as Britain. And we will stand fast!

    At the end, we will be glad to form the other hand of pincers liberating old Europe.

  22. says

    “Occupation without tanks or soldiers”: “No-go” zones for non-Muslims proliferating in Europe
    ……………………………

    Just because they wear no uniforms does not mean they are not soldiers. They are the soldiers of Allah…

  23. says

    The Europeans first set out destroying the Jews and other undesirables and now it seems that very intensity has has turned inwards.

    Now, Europeans are hell-bent on destroying themselves by playing willing hosts to the Cancer called Izlam? What’s the matter with Europe? Doesnt it wanna live anymore?

  24. says

    KAFFIR PAGAN: “What’s the matter with Europe? Doesnt it wanna live anymore?”

    The reasons are complex and varied, but if we want to break it down to its essence, my theory is as follows…

    Europe is barren, uninterested in children and families. When a society stops procreating, its citizenry lose any real sense of meaning and purpose in their lives. People will fight and die for their children…but lacking children, they certainly won’t fight and die for creature comforts.

    That’s my two cents.

  25. says

    I got this in an e-mail and it’s probably just wishful thinking, but miracles do happen:

    Most Liberal Country Abandon Multiculturalism
    by Soeren Kern
    Islamic invasion, full of hate and disrespect to the host nations, has destroyed the tolerance of the most liberal country in Europe.
    The Dutch government says it will abandon the long-standing model of multiculturalism that has encouraged Muslim immigrants to create a parallel society within the Netherlands.
    A new integration bill, which Dutch Interior Minister Piet Hein Donner presented to parliament on June 16, reads: “The government shares the social dissatisfaction over the multicultural society model and plans to shift priority to the values of the Dutch people. In the new integration system, the values of the Dutch society play a central role. With this change, the government steps away from the model of a multicultural society.”
    The letter continues: “A more obligatory integration is justified because the government also demands that from its own citizens. It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands. The integration will not be tailored to different groups.”
    The new integration policy will place more demands on immigrants. For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language, and the government will take a tougher approach to immigrants to ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law.
    The government will also stop offering special subsidies for Muslim immigrants because, according to Donner, “it is not the government’s job to integrate immigrants.” The government will introduce new legislation that outlaws forced marriages and will also impose tougher measures against Muslim immigrants who lower their chances of employment by the way they dress. More specifically, the government will impose a ban on face-covering Islamic burqas as of January 1, 2013. If necessary, the government will introduce extra measures to allow the removal of residence permits from immigrants who fail their integration course…

  26. says

    When are they going to get smart and institute deportation proceedings? We should start gearing up for the same thing here in the US. The sooner the better.

  27. says

    This is something that the UK dhimmi government and police deny. However, there are many no-go zones for whites in the UK. Now, most of us would not wish to go there, anyway, but how is this allowed to happen? Do they not realise that allowing this to happen was the main cause of the recent widespread UK race riots which will, no doubt, be repeated with increasing regularity and will obviously spill over to the Olympics, making that a no-go area for anyone of sense, and has led to Britain’s streets being awash with gangs, guns, knives, drugs, rape of white women, looting,paedophilia, mugging and every other crime you can think of. We are in a hell of a mess over here – and left-wing/liberal politically correct do-gooders have just sat by and let this happen to us – even now, they will not address the reality and continue looking for deeper sociological causes, etc., instead of saying ‘this stops now’! We despair – and the European Union is just as bad and exacerbates the situation by having emasculated our MPs and Courts, who no longer have any say of what happens in our own land! Best keep away from Britain unless this gets sorted!

  28. says

    Canto28, the situation is bad, but not quite as bad as this sensation-piece is making out. The truth is, the Tower Hamlets police did rip down all those sharia-zone posters as fast as they found them, and they say they will charge anyone caught out sticking or promoting them.

    See http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/news/extremists_plaster_east_end_in_posters_declaring_sharia_law_zone_1_979146 (Note that the journalist has a Muslim name!)

    Of course, we don’t know how successful the suppression campaign will be, but it is not true that “nobody is doing anything.” I take this article as an Awful Warning of what the whole of Europe could be in just half a decade if we don’t take action – but not as an accurate, complete portrait of the present situation.

  29. says

    That’s a little harsh, Jaladhi. “We” did not ask for umlimited immigration. The politicians organised it behind our backs. We had no choice.

    On the other hand, “we” did get ourselves into the EU. I was under-age at the time of the EU referendum, in which my parents voted No. But the majority of voters voted Yes for the EU, and we now have to live with the consequences. That’s the price of democracy. Until we are granted another referendum, Brussels’ mistakes will be Britain’s mistakes, including unlimited immigration.

  30. says

    Jaladhi wrote:

    Serves Brits right!!1 They have loved Muslims so much that they allowed unrestricted Muslim immigration in to Britain…
    ……………………………

    Jaladhi, I take your point”and I see it often. But how useful is this? Pretty much every country in Dar-al-Harb has been enormously foolish”and worse”when it comes to dealing with Muslims in the past several decades. The countries of Europe, of North America, India, Australia, Russia, even Israel at times”have all been appeasers and enablers of one sort or another.

    If you were to look at the state of things on the eve of WWII, with a malignantly resurgent Germany, an Italy under Mussolini, a”by turns”cocky and craven France, a weak Poland, a myopically isolationist America, and Britain foolishly waving about Chamberlain’s “peace in our time”, you might believe that any Fascist savagery served on Europe would “serve them right”.

    And yet, they”belatedly but firmly”rose to the occasion at last.

    *That’s* what I want to see”rather than receiving whatever crabbed and grim satisfaction I can from seeing the weak and appeasing get what would “serve them right”.

  31. says

    Diana, you may be a victim of “democracy” in action, but instead of stoic resignation to the pernicious policies of the unelected EU oligarchs, why don’t you demand another referendum instead of waiting for them to ‘grant’ one? Do you believe for one moment those power-hungry Eurocrats will ever relinquish one iota of their totalitarian authority?! Don’t be so complacent and naive; you’ve been screwed by your own government just like we have but at least our fearless leaders are easier to get rid of than yours. Don’t ever ‘wait’ for those in power to relinquish it; it never happens. And by the way, treaties/unions/contracts were made to be broken, ignored, or nullified; it’s not that difficult or uncommon, just look at the islamic world or your local divorce court. Just because yesterday’s politicians made an agreement to be a member of the EU doesn’t mean today’s politicians cannot void that agreement.

    I have to respect one aspect of the muslim ethos that has all but disappeared in the Western psyche, and that is their steadfast devotion to self-preservation, expansion, and doing whatever they consider to be in their own best interests. They don’t care what the rest of the world thinks of them—they demand respect and usually get it from cowering, spineless eunuchs called Western ‘leaders’.
    We’re only as good as the people we elect to represent us, proof positive that America is half rotten to the core.

  32. says

    “What’s the matter with Europe? Doesnt it wanna live anymore?”

    Self-hatred, fear, minimum self-confidence and loss of basic decency among the elités is wrong in Europe.

    The entire malaise has deep culturo-societal and even biological roots. Some blame it on loss of faith, some on disruption of traditional values, some of breakup of nuclear family. All is true to some extent, but there the true roots lay deeper.
    What happened: for at least three decades, the promotion system affecting educated/influential Europeans promoted indivuduals without capacity to love. By “loving”, though it might seem too mystical, I mean loving your coutry, your region and community, your familly, spouse – and namely, as a prerequisite for loving all the above, loving your self.

    Check the professors and media people. It is normal nowdays that a talking heads proclaims, “I haved no special attachement to this [= his] country.”
    Can such a fellow be a role model?

  33. says

    “It does make one feel sorry for the Muslims who do leave the wastelands to come to a free country where they can have a peaceful life.
    They get there and these nutcase shitria types have to ruin it for them.”

    The nutcases can only ruin it for them if those who came here for a peaceful life aren’t willing to stand up to them.

    “And of course, knowing what they know, they certainly are too afraid to stand against these psychos.”

    Then why did they come here? If they prefer to cower before the sharia overlords then they might as well have stayed home. They obviously don’t think freedom is worth defending. Why feel sorry for them?

  34. says

    Sorry, don’t agree. I’m not interested in having kids plus the world is over-populated already. However I have plenty of meaning and purpose in my life.

    My wife however comes from a culture (don’t worry it’s not Muslim) where the ONLY thing they know how to do is breed.
    And a sorry bunch they are too.

    Since when is it a choice between children or creature comforts? I can think of a lot of things to fight and die for.

    The freedom to post here might be one of them….

  35. says

    Amazonas:
    I used to have your feelings. They betray that you too might had been infected by the self-hating virus of mind, which manifests so dangerously in brains of PCMC crowds.
    You, however, fought the malaise, and won it, owing to reason and moral sense. Two of the three assets that PCMC crowds lack. The third one is a suvival drive.

  36. says

    The petition exists and I have signed it. I urge all other British voters who might be reading to sign it likewise.

    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/356

    The petition site contains many good ideas (along with many loopy ones). It’s a little depressing that by far the most popular one is the attempt to reinstate capital punishment. Surely we have more pressing problems in Britain right now?

  37. says

    We *have* been demanding a referendum – the Daily Express, generally a conservative, right wing paper, has been running a campaign to get us out of the EU – they got hundreds of thousands of signatures, but the government *still* refuses to give us one.

    What do you suggest we do ?

    Short of starting a revolution for which there would be little support, the only things we can do are to continue supporting the EDL – the *only* group in the UK which actually gives a damn about islamification, talk to people and try to get them to see what is happening; most people are very apathetic, and unless it directly affects them, don’t give much of a toss.

    Support *any* political party which would get us out of the EU, and put an end to immigration; e-activism, pressure on our MP’s, councillors et al.

    I do all of the above, am not ‘complacent and naive’, and am certainly not stoically resigned to what is happening to my country.

    However, the fact remains, if one lives in a democracy, one must abide by the rules of the democracy. Until a *majority* of the *indiginous* people of the UK, and decent immigrants like the Chinese, Hindus, Indian/Paki Christians, rouse themselves and *demand* we get out of the EU, *demand* that immigration is stopped, *demand* the government outlaws sharia courts, and *destroys* no-go areas, all we can do is to carry on doing what I outlined. If you have any better suggestions, I’m all ears.

  38. says

    Well reported, Susanp. I would like to add (chuck, throw, hurl) one final spanner in the worx. The EU is broke. Only Germany remains viable. Spain, Italy, Portugal, Greece, Ireland are flat broke and in impossible debt. Sweden, Denmark, England, France, Holland all have MASSIVE social security bills and shrinking tax bases. They are probably broke i.e. bankrupt, but too chicken shit to admit it. The cost of harbouring Muslims on the rampage increases daily. The cost of flying… how much more since massive, intrusive security measures were put in place, worldwide, that of course never NEVER profile those of a “Middle Eastern” appearance? It is only too true that you can only fool ALL of the people some of the time. When the river of money runs dry, and it has, the Shiite is truly going to hit the fan. And it will be coming to a neighbourhood near you, real soon. Be prepared.

  39. says

    The integration will not be tailored to different groups.

    The new integration policy will place more demands on immigrants. For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language, and the government will take a tougher approach to immigrants to ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law.

    The government will also stop offering special subsidies for Muslim immigrants because, according to Donner, “it is not the government’s job to integrate immigrants.”

    The government will introduce new legislation that outlaws forced marriages and will also impose tougher measures against Muslim immigrants who lower their chances of employment by the way they dress. More specifically, the government will impose a ban on face-covering Islamic burqas as of January 1, 2013. If necessary, the government will introduce extra measures to allow the removal of residence permits from immigrants who fail their integration course…

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    All the things I had been thinking and writing about! Guess not all Politicians have gone brain dead!

    The problem with politicians is the same all over the world! Politicians do Not give a damn about what has to be how and why as long as they ‘believe’ they’re doings justice to their seats & ‘Public Silence’ is a good ‘yes’ for them. People must come on streets to protest against such suicidal multicultural plans which have failed miserably around the world with Muslims never integrating anywhere!

  40. says

    Ronald W. Carnine wrote:

    I have lived my life (at least the last 25 yrs) trying not to purposely upset people (my Mom told me to).
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    Well, your Mom sounds like a very considerate person, Ronald. Remember, though, there are times when ‘purposely upsetting people’ is necessary if you care about them.

    To use the well-worn metaphor of not yelling “FIRE” in a crowded theatre, it is well to remember that there is, indeed, one very specific set of circumstances when this is certainly called for, and that is when the theatre *is on fire*.

    More:

    I really think its time to rethink our immigration policy.
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    Long past time, I’d say.

    More:

    If this is Islam, the religion of peace, at work, you can have it. Where are the men of England as an article said the other day? Is this really the nation that Nazi Germany couldn’t bring to its knees no matter what they did to it? And we’re supposed to believe that this is one of our most trustworthy allies? Good heavens folks, will somebody please wake the British up?
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    Perhaps we are finally seeing stirrings. As I noted above, it took quite some time for the British’say a few doughty souls such as Winston Churchill”to finally rouse themselves in the face of Hitler’s threat.

    More:

    One thing I forgot on my last post. My mother’s linage is English and my dad’s if French/Dutch. What do I do now?
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    For one thing, Ronald, no man is defined solely by his lineage”which is certainly a good thing for people such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali”a great lady *despite* her baleful Somali heritage.

    But your ancestry covers all the bases”both cowardice and foolishness, and great courage. I’d seek out the heroic elements of your heritage, and take them for my model.

    Not that it is important, but my own heritage is virtually identical to yours, save for the Dutch. You can be sure that the models I’m taking from the rest *do not include* the appeasers of Vichy France, or the vapid foolishness of Neville Chamberlain.

    The Dutch created perhaps the first real democracy, and served as a haven for great people driven for their own lands. The French resistance has many great heroes. Among the British you have Winston Churchill and the brave men of the RAF. Today you have great men such as Geert Wilders in the Netherlands.

    Role models may seem a bit thin on the ground right now”but perhaps you can add your own name to the list.