A decade out, we're losing

Sadly Robert we are losing because of the LACK of LEADERSHIP that we have in the White House at present.

The question I ask is: Could the upcoming 2012 Presidential elections help to restore that needed LEADSHIP in the White House?

You cannot "appease" Islamist terrorists. Its impossible. Our country tried that back in the 1780's when the so called Barbary pirates captured a U.S. ship and seized all of the men. Our country tried that and failed. The only thing that they understand is brute force. Thomas Jefferson said "no more" and sent the newly formed Marines as well as the Navy to take out those who would hold us hostage. It is the same today. We cannot appease Islam. We must fight it or we lose all respect in the Islamic world. The liberal media acts like we are "disrespectful" when we speak the truth and actually stir up terrorist. The truth is, they are continuing their policy of conquering weaker nations until Islam reigns supreme over all the world. I didn't say it, they did. History has shown us what works. If liberals say that's a hate crime, so be it. Learn from history and put those lessons into play. Anything else is foolishness.

The struggle should be viewed primarily as an ideological one to be waged within our own countries. To be frank, with respect to the UK and other European nations, the primary reason for the ascendancy of Islam is rooted in the ethnomasochism of our political elites. This crippling lack of self-belief, combined with repressive hate-speech and warped ‘human rights’ legislation, means that we are unable to publicly offer objective criticism of the negative nature and impact of Islamic beliefs and practice, as well as demographic Islamisation. If the cancerous ideology of multiculturalism were to be removed, we could solve the Islamic problem in Europe. Mass immigration needs to be stopped and reversed: no Islam, no Islamic problem.

Any military response should be limited to insulating our societies from the Islamist threat, and that doesn’t mean getting dragged into wars without end overseas, which without a robust ideological underpinning and willingness to mobilise the population for a total war lasting decades and exterminating tens of millions in the process, would be futile. No! Our war must of the nature of the Cold War: the mutual coexistence of demographically insulated and ideologically hostile geopolitical blocs. Islam will then either deliver to the populations of Muslim majority countries the social systems that they desire, or fail decisively.

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have killed and maimed thousands of Western servicemen and women and placed a heavy financial burden upon our nations. Cui bono? Not us! Islamists? Yes! Put an end to futile wars and rely instead upon air, missile and drone attacks as means of retaliation for any act of aggression issuing from identifiable Islamic targets. Make any response as targeted and surgical as possible.

Meanwhile, in London today, Muslims Against Crusades gather to interrupt the minute’s silence at the American Embassy. Will the EDL adopt a new anthem that ridicules this group of Dark Age misfits? http://durotrigan.blogspot.com/2011/09/loud-bearded-and-mac-muslims-against.html

And on MSM political front there's this interlinking network which defends Islam:

Soros-CAP-Media Matters-CNN-Guardian-Al Jazeera and Iran's 'Press TV'

(- the BBC and many others can also be included here too):-


"Iranian TV Loves Soros Report on Islam"


(by Cliff Kincaid)


http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2011/09/09/kincaid-iranian-tv-loves-soros-report-on-islam/

From ultra-Liberal Leonard Pitts' 9/11 column in the Miami Herald today:

"But terrorism itself remains alive and well, as does a fervent bigotry against Muslims that has seeped into the mainstream of American political thought where it exhibits itself with a shamelessness that once would have been unthinkable"

It's unbelievable! Uh Leonard - they're the Terrorists. Muslims are the Terrorists. Not to mention that Islam mandates to kill us all as we're "Infidels." Understand why people don't like Muslims too much??? People don't like Fascists and Nazis too much, either. Or Fascism and Nazism. And Islam is a supremacist, totalitarian, Jew-hating political ideology just like the other two.

Pitts truly exemplifies the proverb "None so blind as he who refuses to see."

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/10/2400166/pitts-10-years-after-911-reasons.html

Robert is absolutely correct and I thank him for his tireless efforts to keep it up. Our government has decided to discretely lose this undeclared war and move on. If our government doesn’t have what it takes to declare war on a specific enemy after being bombed in the heart of NYC then when?

From the very beginning our leaders started to fade once the fighting became prolonged. This was due to their indecisive tactics and all the PC restraints on our dedicated war fighters. Their greatest faults were that they would not identify the enemy and fight to win. How can anyone win a war without identifying the enemy and generating the momentum to beat that enemy? It was obvious to me that we were either not serious about fighting after we were six months into the fight or that we had no intention of winning. I even called my Senators and Representatives about this at the time. I don’t have the answer but it seems to me that our leaders are only interested in PC/MC, re-election, and preening on TV. A real war gets in their way.

From the very beginning, Robert has been right on target in characterizing and identifying our real enemy. This enemy will not go away and will continue their fight against secular and Judeo-Christian cultures until they have the strategic upper hand, and what then?

Worth reading.

Something Hugh Fitzgerald found in what he calls 'googleland' whilst looking for the insufficiently-recognized scholar, Adda Bozeman/ Bozemam.

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/26087

A remarkably lucid essay by an American gentleman called 'Patrick L. Moore', of whom neither Hugh nor I have been able to discover very much besides his name and the fact that he is or was probably a lawyer interested in politics and history.

'From "Cold War" to Guerra Fria?". It first appeared on 30 June 1994. **1994**. Seven years before the Sept 11 2001 assault on America's iconic city and iconic buildings.

The same essay may also be found here, in a more printer-friendly version.

http://www.ewtn.com/library/ISSUES/GUERRA.HTM

Highly recommended. If you read the footnotes you will see that the guy has done his homework, and then some.

Read it, print it off, re-read it, and share it around, especially with anyone you may know who is in politics or journalism or who is a religious leader.

Here are the final two paragraphs.

"Few chroniclers of recent history have noted that Spanish Christians had a distinctive name for the continuing low-intensity warfare separating the periods of active, full-scale operations which punctuated the eight hundred year Reconquista, or reconquest of the Iberian peninsula. They called their continuing struggle to push back Islam the Guerra Fria—or as we would say it, the "Cold War."[46]

"Only intelligent respect for religion in general and Islam in particular {I think what he means here is that people ought not to **underestimate** Islam as a religio-socio-political force - dda; I don't think he means us to *admire* it] will afford us the chance to realistically confront and assess the practical role of the historically-derived, anti-Western concept of jihad in Muslim thought and policy and thus avoid potential default in, or exacerbation (through ignorance) of, another ideological "cold war."

I think we have to buckle down and realize we are in for a long, long haul.

Grim realism about the present state of confusion and disarray should not be allowed to collapse into despair, because if we despair, we shall indeed most surely lose; despair paralyses the will. They *want* us to despair; we shall have to *choose* to refuse to do so.

And let's not forget that in the past twenty years two chunks of territory - Timor Lorosae and South Sudan - have been clawed back from dar al Islam, at immense cost; Israel was recovered, in 1948 and 1967, and is holding, and may yet hold; India is holding, barely; if we knew what we were doing we would at all costs support India, Israel, South Sudan and Timor Lorosae, to help the resident non-Muslims keep control of their 'turf', as well as finding ways to push back against the demographic jihad/ stealth jihad in the rest of the non-Muslim world, especially 'the West' but not forgetting Central and Southern America, majority-Christian Ethiopia and the majority-nominally-Christian countries of equatorial/ sub-Saharan Africa (draw a line from Ghana in the west through southern Nigeria to Tanzania and Kenya in the east, and then everything south of that line).

For the believers amongst us: Psalm 2, Psalm 46, Psalm 91, Psalm 121.

the reason we're losing is the fact that the govt. refuses to name the real enemy . It's NOT the terrorist groups of "radical"Islam. No it's Islam pure and simlpe. Until the govt names it and pulls out all our people who are in these muslim nations and places an embargo on all trade with muslim nations like Indonesia, Saudi Arabia ect. there can be no resolution.

First by know everyone even children are learning in their text books that 9/11 was an inside job carried out by USA for the sake of Islamophobia...which you people neglect but this is the truth and Jews are behind all this drama.

Secondly, the atrocities which US Army has committed in AFG do you think it is easy for Afghans to forget (bombing of innocent children and defenseless women did you ever mention these crimes in your blog...never...)above all those brutal killings of innocent shopekeepers by monster army...the evidence is available in Rolling stone and Speigel magazine.

Therefore the war in Afghanistan will continue to take revenge of innocents blood and until troops withdrawal.

At present my internet connection is glacially slow.

Otherwise I would be uploading, from youtube, a version of G K Chesterton's great hymn, 'O God of earth and altar'. I will try again, tomorrow morning; or those who feel inclined may go looking for it, themselves, to find a version to their taste (I am told that the secular group 'Iron Maiden' did a rather striking modern setting of it).

The second stanza speaks powerfully to us in the modern West, today:

"From all that terror teaches,
from lies of tongue and pen,
from all the easy speeches
that comfort cruel men;
from sale and profanation
of honour and the sword,
from sleep and from damnation
deliver us, good Lord!"

My take:

http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2011/09/if-i-had-my-way.html

Further, Afghan Knight, your "brave lions of jihad" park a car with two kids in it, leave,then, from a safe distance, detonate it, children it it and all, to kill dozens of people, mostly their own co-religionists. But, if a single American soldier is killed or even gets grazed by a piece of shrapnel and needs a bandage for it, you think it worth it.

Here you are, sacrificing your young children on the altar of your vicious mental idol, doing the very same thing which the Canaanites of old did, that prompted God Almighty to give the message to Moses the Prophet that the whole Canaanite nation must be massacred.

YOU and your whole people seriously need to repent of your evils (including the false religion of Islam). There's a part of me that is just superstitious enough to believe that the last thirty years show that maybe God is paying Afghanistan back for its love of bloody feuds, willingness to believe lies, providing warriors to Babur Shah to massacre Lakhshs of Hindus who were at peace with you, for getting rid of your Christians and Jews, and for supporting the most bigoted, backwards, and violent Mullahs who have ever burdened the Dar-ul-Islam.

Everyday we read some opinionated article,or we hear a speech from someone in America who thinks any American who is critical of Islam is a bigot or some kind of Islamophobe. Yet these same people never explain or address in anyway how they reached that conclusion, what do they know that we don't? Did they take the time to study the Koran,the hadiths or the Syrah? Did they ever ask themselves the question, why do they hate us? Or as Mark Steyn says the better question is, why do they despise us? For me the natural progression after 9-11 was to find the answers to that question.

I always remembered how General Douglas MacArthur said in a speech " Know your enemy and know him well if you want to defeat him" he of course drew that knowledge from studying "the art of war " by Sun Tzu.

At times I am reminded sadly by people who couldn't find Australia or even Africa on a map.Yes it is is difficult to argue with those who are hell bent on remaining ignorant of what fundamental Islam inculcates into its teachings. Islams political progression is completely totalitarian in every way and leaves absolutely no quarter for any other religion. It demonstrates this on numerous fronts every single day all across the globe. And yet still there are Americans walking around wearing rose colored glasses and thinking Islam is just another religion, unfortunately they are not only wrong,they are in fact dead wrong!!

At this point, the Muslim world is very lucky that the West is being led by silly masochists who, as college kids, put up posters of Mao Zedong and Che Guevara.

One cannot fight a war while practicing "political correctness". We have to dump this lying "theology" and spread the truth about Islam and Muslims, calling spade a spade all the time. No appeasement and no lies white washing the true Muslim intentions. Maybe than we can win this war against the barbarians!!1

If 9/11 is the dateused to mark the start of this war,we started losing it on 9/12 when George Bush was pleased to call Islam the Religion of Peace,a declaration that I knew even at that time to be seriously flawed and which, in the intervening years, has sadly been borne.

So how is it that the smart people in Washington knew and continue to know so little about the nature of the threat against us? Yet in one sense Bush was right: He was right in asserting that this war would be like no other. His assertion is true in that it will be up to the people of this country to inform their leaders. Preferably, the people of the democratic West will elect leaders who are already duly informed on the threat posed to our civilization and who will not require remedial education.

In order to turn the tide in this war, we must rid ourselves of the chains of self-censorship. The time is long overdue for plain-speaking. While protecting all law-abiding citizens from persecution and harrassment, we must be unafraid of using our laws to strip the citizenship of those who cynically use it as a platform to launch acts of sedition, murder and mayhem. In order to turn the tide of this war, we must stop any attempt to nation-build. Our forays into the Mohammedan world should be well-calculated, purposeful, brief and ferocious. In order to turn the tide in this war, we must develop economies that either do not depend upon fossil fuels or that sradically reduce our dependence upon these fuels.

In order to turn the tide in this war, we must remember who we are: The sons and daughters of Liberty. Don't Tread on Me!

Follow this:

(excerpts

Opinion
For 9/11 Victim's Family Members No Justice, No Peace On Anniversary

By Bradley Blakeman

Published September 05, 2011
FoxNews.com
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/09/05/no-justice-no-peace-for-11-victims-family-members/

On September 11, 2001, I lost my nephew: New York State Senior Court Officer Thomas Jurgens.

Tommy was a first responder to the attacks to the World Trade Center. He commandeered a jury van and loaded it up with supplies and personnel and went from the safety of his courthouse to the World Trade Center.

He was told by his supervisors to leave the Trade Center and his radio response was, "I cannot leave, there are people who need our help."

That was his last radio transmission. He was never seen again. He was killed on September 11 as were his colleagues New York State Court Officer Captain Harry Thompson and Senior Court Officer Mitch Wallace.

....On the eve of the 10th anniversary of the attacks to our homeland, our nation still has not brought 5 admitted perpetrators to justice, Ground Zero still remains to be rebuilt and Shanksville Pennsylvania is without a finished memorial to the victims of United Airlines Flight 93.

There can be no justice unless and until those responsible for the horrific attacks are held to account for their crimes and there on can be no peace for the souls who died on 9/11 until the day Ground Zero is fully and completely restored and Shanksville Pennsylvania has a finished memorial to the victims of Flight 93....

......To add insult to injury the Obama administration in advance of the 10th anniversary sent out "talking points" to their personnel instructing them to advance the position that the attacks are "not just about us." Weren't we the ones attacked on 9/11? The memo went on to instruct officials to "minimize references to Al Qaeda" because bin Laden is dead and "Al Qaeda and its adherents have become increasingly irrelevant."

Wasn't it bin Laden who ordered the attacks and wasn't it Al Qaeda who carried them out? And if Al Qaeda is irrelevant why then do we have 100,000 U.S. troops fighting them in Afghanistan?

Who is the administration seeking to console and protect on this anniversary -- the victims or the perpetrators, sympathizers and collaborators?

....It is my hope that justice will be delivered and peace will be found sooner rather than later for the sake of all victims and people who were affected by the attacks of September 11, 2001.

Bradley A. Blakeman served as deputy assistant to President George W. Bush from 2001-04. He is currently a professor of Politics and Public Policy at Georgetown University and a frequent contributor to Fox News Opinion

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"Who is the administration seeking to console and protect?" Isn't the answer clear? Islam?

Blakeman: "There can be no justice unless and until those responsible for the horrific attacks are held to account for their crimes..."

Those Blakeman holds immediately responsible, may be in the dozens. Those ultimately reponsible; those sympathetic to, collaborators with and enablers of those immediately responsible may be in the millions. Perhaps close to 1 billion or better. It needs saying.

Just think if th U.S had not supported the rebels when russia invaded afganistan. Why r americans dying in iraq and afganistan. The illegal occupation is doing more to recruit people for thier cause. With all the dead and wounded soldiers,i wonder how bush sleeps at nite. I guess all the money being made from these illegal invasions by his pals makes it all rite. Too bad Gore had the election stolen from him,the world would be so much better now

I believe Islam may be a religion, but also a political ideology bent on hegemony. But I never just want to be against something, wishing it away and leaving a vacuum.

To me the whole Democratic system, including protection of human rights, and practicing the Golden Rule, that is the better alternative for Islam. And consequently at least a majority of citizens of Democratic Nations should be persuaded to be just loyal to Democratic nations, their laws, principles and interests above all else. Just like the Muslims teach us in their first and foremost identity and loyalty with and to their faith and the community of the faithful (the Ummah).

I think democratic citizens should endeavour to organise the United Democratic Nations. And we now know that Islam has some 33 laws that are distinctly anti-democratic, which we learned from ex-Muslims and counter-jihadists.

This should be at least common knowledge among democracy-loyalists everywhere. And the consequence we aim for should be preference of fellow-democracy-loyalists over all other countries and organisations.

One very big policy-aspect should be for real democratic countries to become energy-independent, at least from dictatorial states, especially Islamic ones, but also Russia and Venezuela eventually.

Ezra Levant is advocating buying oil from Canada instead of from dictatorial states on his website http://www.ethicaloil.org/

and to me it's great. One consequence of energy-independence from Saudi Arabia will be that that country has much less chance to influence American policy, enabling Western Politicians to see it as the enemy it really is.

Of course, if there is any possibility that alternative sources of energy replace oil altogether that's great too. My standpoint is ANYTHING BUT CONFLICT OIL (Ezra Levant's term for oil from dictatorial countries) that is why I love this great website which Daniel Pipes endorses: http://www.setamericafree.org/

lastly there also is the possibility to exploit shale oil as Lawrence Solomon tells us. Success in this project could mean that America, Europe AND Israel in the next decade all can move towards energy independence too;http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/06/30/lawrence-solomon-liberate-u-s-oil/

The London Met police, backed by British Coalition government, allow Muslim mob to burn American flag outside American Embassy on 9/11 remembrance day.

No doubt, BBC-Guardian, etc, have no objection to this, but instead object to English Defence League, which was today opposing the insult to the West, America, Britain and the victims of the Islamic jihad of 9/11/2001.


"9/11 anniversary: Muslim protesters burn US flag outside embassy in London.

"A group of Muslim protesters set fire to an American flag outside the US embassy in London during a minute's silence to mark the moment that the first hijacked airliner hit the World Trade Center 10 years ago. "


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/september-11-attacks/8755834/911-anniversary-Muslim-protesters-burn-US-flag-outside-embassy-in-London.html

Yea, what Buraq said, too.

I wanted to leave a comment to reflect my sense of frustration with the Western world which is collectively commuting suicide, even my beloved U.S, but words fail me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k

Bush / Obama are with "Palestine"

Khak bar saret (drop dead) Afghan Knight

My two cents:

Islam is a force that is not rational. You cannot reason with it and persuade it by logical arguments to change its uncompromising posture towards the Dar-Al-Harb. It needs to be overcome by irresistible, overwhelming and unrelenting force.

In their current forms campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq are futile. The Western army may hold the technological superiority, but intrinsically it is soft like a coconut --i.e. hard on the outside, soft on the inside. The Western armies have considerations like human rights, rules of engagement, Geneva convention, winning hearts and minds which makes them enter the battle with one hand tied behind their backs and severely disabled. Initially the Western armies overrun the enemy with their technological superiority and campaigns of shock and awe. However, once the occupation starts and the 'human element' of war sets in, the West is totally disadvantaged because of their above mentioned considerations.

Winning hearts and minds is impossible because of the ideology we confront. Islam teaches Muslims that they have their first and foremost allegiance to their fellow Muslims no matter where in the world they may reside-- to the transnational state called the Ummah. A Kuffar army will never be able to change the hold Islam and Ummah has on the loyalty of the common Muslim no matter how meticulously it adheres to the Geneva Convention and its own ridiculous rules of engagement, or tries to minimize civilian casualties, or publicly shows deference to the local customs and Islam by taking off their boots before entering a mosque. Not possible. Afghans or Arabs or any other Muslim will never take the Kuffar for friends just like the Koran commands them not to.

So what can we do?

In my opinion we need to do the opposite of what we have been doing so far. We first need to understand the psychology of the common Muslim. Islam originated out the harsh desert conditions of Arabia. The tribes there would constantly engage in internecine warfare perhaps for control over the scare resources (water?). Any belief system takes after the local culture and land it was born in. The harshness of the Arab tribal culture and the desert landscape translated into the belief system of Islam- never to pledge one's allegiance outside one's tribe, never to concede one's own or the tribe's weaknesses, to respect strength and mock and enslave the frail. Islam only understands and respects the language of unrelenting brute strength.

Also, the Muslim armies and militias fight under the banner of Allah, be it the Iranian, Pakistani, Saudi regular armies, or irregulars like the Taleban, Al Quaeda, LeT. Their purpose, their motto and battle cries are always Islamic. Basically they believe that they are fighting for Allah. And because their Allah is the fiercest God who smites the unbeliever at the necks etc (again a reflection of the Arabian desert tribes' culture of strength and machismo) they believe they will inevitably always win.

In such context, bombing the Taleban and occupying Afghanistan cannot be defined as victory. It may be a military victory of one army over the other, but it is definitely not a total victory. Total victory would be to trample the flag of Islam under the foot of the army invading Muslim lands, say Afghanistan and Iraq. Total victory would be to show Muslims that the God of the invading army is much more fierce, much more warlike, and much more powerful than their war god Allah. Total victory would be to make the Muslims believe that Allah is impotent before the new and more fierce God.

Currently the coalition armies are secular which means that the military defeat of the Mujahiddin does not present an alternative to the Muslims. It is interpreted as the Kuffar army defeating the Iraqis. The coalition need to fight under the flag of their own faith, perhaps here Christianity and make this fact explicitly clear to the Muslim populations. After each successive defeat of the enemy, it needs to be loudly proclaimed all across the defeated land that the new God has prevailed over Allah. Praise be the lord!

I would even go so far as to suggest that Mosques need to be desecrated with something like pig fat to humiliate the Muslim god. A cross needs to be set atop the mosque dome wherever the conquering army goes. We need to change whole paradigm into a foreign God trampling, defeating and humiliating Allah. Only then Muslims will start to reconsider their allegiance to Allah because doubts will start to creep into the Muslim mind. Perhaps Allah is weak? God forbid, Allah doesn't exist? The Muslim psychology is such that it will never bet on a weak horse (as Osama Bin Laden is reputed to have said). Again going back, this is a reflection of the desert culture of Arabia where anything weak is scorned upon and anything strong is worshiped. In our hypothetical case the Muslims will start to desert the weaker Allah en masse and worship the new God. Now this would be total victory.

The Muslims world over have been schooled in the Arabian tribal culture via Islam. They kick those who lick them, and lick those who kick them. To win in the long run (and not just tactically over the short term) we have to kick them really really hard and repeatedly.

This Afghan Knight is another exploited fool, who has been brainwashed by a legacy left behind by the first real Islamist, Khadijah. Her first exploitation was that of her delusional husband Muhammad.

Islam delende est.

(Islam must be destroyed.)

This will free over a billion people suffering in its terroristic chains.

The Muslims are the first victims of Islam.

The Koran needs to be shown as the farrago of lies and lunacy and plagiarism and fraud that it clearly is.

Once the Koran is debunked, Islam dies.

And mankind shall be freed of this marching malignancy.

Ex-Muslims included.

Replies to all illogical thinkers who replied me!

First of all as per my analysis from the replies my conclusion is that you all know the truth 9/11 was an inside job verily...that's why some butts start pluming...and i am sure most of you know it well 9/11 terrorist act was financially supported by Zionists because they control US economy and no one dare to pin-point at them; these are realities on the ground zero which inevitably one day has to be exposed. I know everyone is afraid of Islam because it the fastest religion spreading across USA and rest of the world.

Secondly for all those ignorant rats who defame Islam must read the holy Quran with authentic translation (then you will be able to know real Islam = peace)...you'll never find a quote of violence except peace,way of living, equality, brotherhood...,i know some freaks just quote verses which are copied/modified by Spencer and other pagans...but if you learn the real Quran for sure you'll get salvation!!!

Finally, it was now vivid as sunshine that US government (controlled by pathetic JEWS)behind fueling & funding terrorism all over the world and create puppets of Taliban, Al-Qaeda etc to defame Islam and Muslims.

(May GOD bless Islam and Muslims and guide the pagans to right path if they are not capable of coming to straight path then you may perish them)

Refer to link for documentary on Life and Legacy of Prophet Muhammad (SAW)...produced by PBS.org...which is not a Muslim run organisation, how they portray the our beloved prophet Subhanallah...still if hypocrites denies his virtues then verily Allah promised hell fire forever! Amen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR7Ea8T8sTQ

Hey afghan knight...which translation do you recommend?

Appeasement has never worked. We are opposing the Panzer divisions of Islam with Boy Scouts on motorbikes.

Fuck you, dirt-bag. And the horse you rode in on.

You're not a knight, which suggests honor. You're a delusional reprobate, like so many of your tribe.

And lastly Afghan Knight, those Jewish invented medicines and vaccines were well and truly wasted on a barbaric mental cripple like yourself.

Robert, please don't get discouraged. The Obama administration is a wrong place to look for leadership in anything. He does not report to American people. He reports to his Muslim puppet masters and had set up to systematically dismantle the US.

I understand it's difficult to appreciate just how powerful a single free individual such as yourself can and do accomplish.

I look forward to looking at your postings of the 911 freedom rally as I could not be there. (We had our own gathering in honour of 911.)

The problem with blaming all of this on one man is, one man can't possibly have that much power in Washington D.C.. There are 545 legislators not just one. So to just blame one would be wrong minded.

All the legislators need to update their understanding of the ideology behind sharia law, jihadists, Muhammad, the Koran, the Hadith, and its history.....

Courreges and Goob :

I'm glad you mentioned Leonard Pitts- he is that deep-dyed liberal moron that my newspaper , The Seattle Times, seems to thrive on.

I swear the guy has a complex , and it's probably because he associates himself with anyone he perceives to be a persecuted "minority " . Like many blacks, he never got over the injustice of the past and it has put a chip on his shoulder, and a bleeding heart for anyone he thinks is "picked on ".

Many a time have I been so disgusted in his biased babblings I have hurled the paper across the room. I have written to him twice I was so annoyed by his way of thinking.

But the awful thing is --his column probably does a lot of harm. As a matter of fact the Seattle Times itself does also. The Blethen family ( owners ) are repulsively prejudiced and they whittled every "oppossing " voice down to only one writter, and that was Charles Krauthammer, and about half a yr ago they kicked him out .

These kind of influences are murderous. They hope to get the people to think their way. They couldn't care less about fairness or what the other side of the coin says. They want their wretched warped way of thinking to be imposed on the public. IT AMOUNTS TO PROPAGANDA . All of that paper's columnists are ultra-liberals .

I think I'll write again to Pitts and I have a good letter written to the Blethen family also . I'm just waiting for my printer to be repaired. THESE PEOPLE ARE POISONOUS - THEY ARE LIARS AND THOUSANDS READ THEM !

More on topic : Yes Robert, I think you are right. We are not going anywhere on the fight against Islamic aggression .

Tears, songs, speeches, flowers, national and international commemorations to the 9/11 tragedy around the world are fine, and I'm glad those dead were not ignored. We must remember, sure, BUT---how is all that going to awaken people to the truth of Islam etc. ? The fact is that after all those tears are shed etc. we are left with a lie we are expected to live with. That lie is that it is wrong to point out the enemey as the enemy and somehow indecent to discuss them as enemies. We are still afraid to tell the truth about Islam and Islamists. We are expected to swallow the lie that those terrorists were just a rare and weird group of radicals who have hardly any resemblance to the "regular" Muslims at all. We are expected to believe that their religion was "hijacked " and made to look bad. That the "real Islam is SO MUCH better ! THOSE are the lies we are expected to live with. We can't feel free to say what Islam is really like. We become "haters" and "bigots"

Open message to all those who think we are lowlives for protesting :

STOP TRYING TO FORCE ISLAM DOWN OUR THROATS !!

"kafir pagan"gave a brilliant analysis of the distorted Muslim mind and proposed a change of strategy to defeat the islamists which is cruel and bloody, but seems necessary.I thank him!

Another way of victory over Islam is to daily publish some of those Koranic verses and Hadith passages that are totally barbaric,inhuman,and expose the crimes"prophet" Mohammad committed ,because 6 billion non Muslims need to be reminded daily that the Muslims are commanded in the Koran and Hadith to kill the Jews,Christians,infidels,Apostates from Islam,blasphemers of the Koran and Mohammad and women who "dishonored' their families.

If 1/30 of these passages is published daily,over a month all these EVIL passages will be published and then repeated the next month for many years as these passages are crucial in defeating Islamic Ideology.
REPETITIO EST MATER STUDIORUM=Repetition is the mother of learning and times demand that this site either do it or have a referance where it can be found as "Muslims against sharia" site had these passages of the Koran ~1 year ago but now I cannot locate them.They are needed for wide dissemination and to remind our politicians to finally start defending our society,values,democracy,consitution from the Islamic global Jihad and stealth infiltration!

From our politicians only Newt Gingrich spoke on the threat Islam is to USA and the World and proposed a strategy to contain,isolate and bring the collapse of the Islamic world the same way the Soviet Union collapsed in 1989, but he is very weak at the polls.
WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN HIM!

To all those ignorant rats who replied me!

You've a saying in your language "BARKING DOGS SELDOM BITE" which truly reflects your comments because you people cannot achieve anything in this world not in hereafter because you've such blind and full of dirt hearts that cannot accept peaceful religion and have zero logic to understand facts.

MAY GOD PERISH all those ignorant hypocrites for defaming Islam, beloved prophet Muhammad (SAW) and its followers! Amen

Turning Muslim in Texas Documentary! http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13

George W Bush may be backed by Christian fundamentalists but in his home state of Texas, Islam is the latest big draw.

Eric was a Baptist preacher before he became a Muslim 14 years ago. Now he prays five times a day – even in the middle of watching a football game. His wife, Karen, also a convert, is covered from head to toe in the traditional Muslim Clothes. Islam, says Eric, ‘is everything I wanted Christianty to be’. His mother has found it hard to come to terms with her son’s conversion and believes he will return to the Christan faith: ‘Then he will be a dynamic preacher.’ Eric says: ‘Maybe some day she’ll embrace Islam.’

This reveals that ISLAM is neither spread by sword nor force all is about peace preaching of MUHAMMAD (SAW).

I will be the lone optimist, for today:

The article is correct but only on the negative side.

1-Millions of citizens of the world are being slowly awakened to the reality of Islam.

2-We have smashed the leadership of terrorist countries.

3-Not only the West but India and China are more willing to fight Jihad.

4-Information is leaking into the Muslim mind not just from Jihadis but freedom lovers, too.

5-What victories can Islam or Sharia states claim? In reality, all Muslims are secretly embarrassed by the terrorists and the pathetic countries they rule.

Finally-Islam is a fragile mind controlling system that is ready to collapse from within. As we are taught PC bs by the elite, people within Islam see its insecurity. Islam is in its death throes but it will take decades to collapse.

God Bless America, all the dhimmis living under oppression, and please God help the Muslim break free from the sins of the false prophet.

comments?

Oh finally one logical debater pops-out.

You are talking out of the blue and mis-leaded by articles, posts and links modified by hypocrites such as Spencer and others who are leading the agenda of Jews to defame Islam which you people deny, isn't it true.

I challenge you to prove any violence, discrimination or any other sort of element which is against humanity in Islam (the peaceful religion), but in fact Islam strongly condemns all!!! i know you'll now search Spencer's or other hypocrites modified posts and quotes which are developed out of his belly. I am sure you cannot find it because you never read Holy QURAN with authentic translation.

I read sometime Bible as our 3rd Holy book and accept Prophet Jesus as our beloved prophet and messenger of Allah no real Muslim on this world will deny this and say anything astray to him never, try at least to read your book to learn something, Prophet Jesus got revelations from Allah which is recorded in Bible that tell your followers not to eat pork, alcohol, commit adultery...and tell to your followers that a messenger will come after me not for a tribe but for whole humanity to spread peace with final Holy book (QURAN) so shall you obey and follow him (this is what clearly mention in your book but verily you deny them...how pathetic) We Muslims never in history has said anything wrong about Prophet Jesus but you people are hypocrites for saying things to our beloved prohpeht Muhammad (PBUH). But what is happening in your countries all the opposite and for sure one day Prophet Jesus will come on this earth and will say to his people didn't i tell you to follow Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)and to avoid all wrong-doings; they some of hypocrites like you wil reply oh Prophet we didn't know...this..that...verily then you'll repent...i can write more more....

For your information we utterly condemn the suicide attackers, killing of innocents (whether Muslims or non-Muslim), and what happened today in Kabul attacks is truly against Islam and we know anti-Islamic elements are behind this to defame Islam whether its puppets Taliban, Al-Qaeda, Jews, Christian....whomsoever do this will be held accountable on Judgement day and get his punishment!!!

Regarding me i am simple human being blessed by ALLAH (all praise to him) and true believer of his final messenger Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), Prophet Jesus, Prophet Moosa and 124,000 other Prophets sent by Allah to different tribes on this earth. And believe in life hereafter and accountable for my deeds in this world.

Peace!!!

and hereafter!!!

Thanks for the compliments Wellignton. Everyone is fine here in the Northwest and we're getting ready for the long, rainy winter. I hope that you and yours came through those Pennsylvania floods without a scratch.

You write, "it crossed my mind that Afghan Knight could be just a comedian trying out some new material." Not a bad idea; but is there any intentional comedy in Islam? The Ayatollah Khomeini begged to differ. For him, as you know, there was no fun in Islam. Islam was to be entirely serious all the time. That's beyond tragic, it's pathetic - even diseased.

Your description of the Muslim brain as bizarre and upside- downish is very accurate; especially when you point out the flat contradiction in the idea that 9/11 was as a plot made by Zionist Israel, and yet carried out by heroic Osama bin Laden. Many Muslims believe this, and I remember seeing television interviews in the days after 9/11 with Egyptians in particular spouting this kind of thing - the kind of thought believable only for comic-book characters.

To tie up to the subject of the thread, I agree that it does appear that the West is losing this battle as we reach the ten year mark from the September 2001 attacks. At least, those civilians charged with the responsibility to protect this country, have yet to clearly name the enemy that poses an existential threat to the United States. The problem seems to be that the threat is not as immediate and overwhelming as nuclear annihilation, or as clearly defined as a formal, Communist ideology. There doesn't seem to be an Islamic Kremlin.

The president is not at all troubled that he has been denied his symbolic spolia opima for killing the enemy chieftain, Osama Fish-Food bin Laden. I think he believes that if al-Qaeda is knocked back, that is all he need do. If he demonstrated that he understood what the success of Islam against the West means for the United States, he would get much more respect. He might find a more unified country too.

The president is a dismal performer, far worse than almost any previous office holder - except perhaps for the law- breaking President Nixon. Nevertheless, as bad as he was, Mr. Nixon was better in foreign policy than the current president is. He understood human nature in a way that Obama does not.

And there was another president who burned brighter than our community organizer, and that was Harry Truman - someone who never received credit for the keen mind he had. I can't help but think that Turman's schooling in Latin served him well. It takes a fool not learn a thing from reading Ceasar's War in Gaul. Truman was no fool, and Obama, the Latinless, has lost out.

I'm making this post too long, but I wanted to say that it is always a pleasure to read your words. By now, the new school year may have begun for you and this time 'round, I hope you have sections full of the kind of students who are a joy to teach. Take care Dr.Wellington.

P.S. I had little fun teasing Afghan Knight, but though I would like to claim that I spelled guerrilla with one r to trip him into confusing gorilla and guerrilla, it was just a typo. Glad you enjoyed the linguistic corollary to the digitus impudicus.

I already predicted you will loose your nerve suddenly by seeing my reply and start searching spencer's/modified quotes which i was right!!! I am now 100% correct which is mentioned in our Holy QURAN "speak the truth so shall you fell the truth".

And for you all information ISLAM will rule on this entire world again as it is spreading like fire across USA and rest of the world that is why hypocrites are afraid of and running link rats and cats!

Peace!

I don't believe such a hypocrite like you who never read our Holy book and giving me quotes (you're such a clown that cannot defeat a triumph of true religion...you will never succeed in your calculus...lol.. which is zero!!! you will spend your entire life searching for any unwise saying in Hold Quran and you will never find the wisdom there...!!!

Get a life and search for true religion where you can find peace which i am sure you will find in ISLAM only!!!

Peace!

The hostile tone of your prose, simply proves my point. You call people names, then urge them to seek "the true religion" which you believe is Islam. Don't you realize the impression you give of your religion? Of course, that is not to say that there is anything of value in Islam, there isn't, but you are particularly blind to the negative import of your own words. You only reinforce the correct idea that many people have of Islam, which is that its followers are shallow, frightened, angry little people who must bully and intimidate others.

Doesn't it occur to you that when people read the Qur'an they find only hatred there? The Qur'an is full of hatred for Jews, and other non-Muslims. Why would anyone with any compassion respect Islam? I'm certain that many Muslims themselves have never read it, otherwise they wouldn't remain both Muslims and people of good will. Islam is trash.

I've read the Qur'an several times. It is a repetitious, disorganized, illogical, hate-filled book. Muhammad, such as he was, spouted nothing more than his own fantasies and hate-laced bits of bad poetry.

Islam is so bad, that one can only despise it and gesture about it with contempt. As I said before, regarding your respect for Islam, Tibi digitum impudicum ostendo.

Allah (swt) said in Quran, O Mohammad (pbuh) there will be people among your ummat with Dark hearts, blind, dumb...which will never come to straight path and seek guidance.

Then verily I have prepared for them Hell fire where they rot in hell till the end.....

Peace!

Allah will prove it Inshallah on judgement day who will enter Hell and Paradise.

I am afraid of your worse consequences in hereafter. Then you'll repent and say Oh GOD give me another chance, it will be late enough for you!

US is losing only a decade war but you and hypocrites likewise are losing 1400yr WAR again Islam and Muslims! Which you cannot justify it. But on the contrary Islam the world most peaceful religion is spreading like fire around the Globe from which hypocrites like to are afraid to death. That is why spencer is now weave fabric on a loom and bankrupt! Poor guys;

How many unwise sayings you say except giving yourself harm nothing you can achieve! Poor Classicus...failing in your own miserable calculator!

Peace!

Well Classicus if my sentences give sense or not at least you're getting senses lol. I know your posts from beginning to the very end is out of your belly button being pressed by Spencer's alike thugs and cannot tolerate the fact that ISLAM is the most peaceful and fast spreading religion on earth! I stand by it till end of my life. I already cleared my stance that you hypocrites are good at finding small pieces of defect in Islam which is already condemned and has no place in Islam whomsoever conducts suicide missions you should have known because you said i read holy QURAN several times but i know you can't understand it because it needs logic which you don't have unfortunately. Every religion has bad elements and it doesn't mean to justify the whole religion again logic is require to differentiate as you're a bad element for your religion i don't know if you follow any.

Peace!

I already said you and spencer alike pathetic hypocrites are good at finding small defects which is utterly condemned and has not place whatsoever in Islam...but who should know it because it needs logic which i said repeatedly you don't have it pity for your and we have a pretty famous saying reading story in front of donkey which will never come to straight path!

Above all your sayings are disgusting as it is because there is no reality in it...the fact which you hypocrites always denies...our beloved Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) saved this world from slavery, wrong-doings, established a common acceptable law of Sharia where all the human rights are well balanced with light of Quran majeed...Islam is only religion which promotes peace, stability, tranquility, brotherhood...you name it but it needs a brain to think over it logically which is as usual you don't posses...you will spend all your pathetic life but you will never be able to find any major wrong-thing in Islam and Prophet Mohammad (pbuh)...never ever...Inshallah!!!

as always i doubt your sayings because you never read the authentic translations expect some defamatory hypocrites books of Spencers and alike thugs...whom there flaw sayings are a small pinch of salt in ocean of Islam which is dissolved as usual!!!

Get a life and try to come out of miserable darkness you living towards straight path!!!the only wish a true Muslim could say to pagan which is the teachings of our beloved Prohpet Muhammad (pbuh).

Peace!

As usual the victory is of Islam Knight! The hypocrites will always bow down in front of common sense and truth and will never prevail upon as Allah helps the Muslims!

Long live Islam and Muslims! Allah Bless this great nation of Muslims! Ameen, Peace!

Triumph Afghan Knight!

Victory? What victory? You're a hero in your own mind, as the saying goes. No one here has bowed down to you or to Islam. Not once in this thread have you made a sensible remark. You have not countered anything that has been written about Islam with any facts. You do not offer facts. You are a fool.

If you meant to convert anyone to Islam with your words, you are a failure. Your posts are an illustration of the stupidity and blindness typical of many Muslims.

...as [since] Allah helps the Muslims.

How does Allah help the Muslims? Are Muslims ahead in any measure of development; longevity; intelligence; freedom; culture; or capital? No. Majority Muslim countries have none of the these by world standards. Even the richest of Muslim countries, Saudi Arabia, has nothing to offer the world but her natural resource, oil. The Saudis contribute nothing else. One day the oil will be gone, and long before that happens, the West will have found different energy sources. The money will dry up, the madrasas will disappear and Islam will decrease. Believe it.

Ask yourself, if Allah"s religion is Islam, and Allah helps the Muslims, why is every country in which Islam is the dominant religion so backward?

Note that the first diagnosis in the story at the link is what so many Muslims argue for; that is, more of what makes Muslims poor. True idiocy. Poverty in the Muslim world is not West's fault as your leaders claim. If anything, the Islamic world ought to have taken advantage of the West's troubled 20th Century, but they have not. No, the fault belongs to the Muslims and their religion; it gives them an outlook that cripples them. It is Islam which retards their progress. Islamic countries are ungovernable.

Your problem is Islam Mr. Knight. The sword has brought you nothing. You're pathetic and so is the Ummah.

Again and Again the victory is of Islam Knight! The hypocrites will always bow down in front of common sense and truth and will never prevail upon as Allah helps the Muslims!

Long live Islam and Muslims! Allah Bless this great nation of Muslims! Ameen, Peace!

Triumph Afghan Knight!

That is your best rebuttal? Your repetitions prove your idiocy. Also, you might go to your English teacher and ask for your money back. You have been cheated. Adverbs are not capitalized except when they begin a sentence.

You really are a Muhammadan fool, Mr. Knight.

Sermo index animi.

Again and Again AND AGAIN the victory is of Islam Knight! The hypocrites will always bow down in front of common sense and truth and will never prevail upon as Allah helps the Muslims!

Long live Islam and Muslims! Allah Bless this great nation of Muslims! Ameen, Peace!

Triumph Afghan Knight!

How is it capitalization poor Latino slave in US!!!

Just as asses will Mr. Knight, you continue to bray about your victory when you have achieved nothing. What victory do you mean? Have you proved a thing? Have you persuaded anyone on JW to convert to Islam? No. Have you represented Islam well? You have, but not in the sense that you imagine. Have you answered any of the questions put to you by any of the posters in any of the threads on this blog? You haven't done that either. You simply repeat yourself. You are becoming a bore.

Now, to bore you a little.

I offer you a bit of pedantry. Speakers and writers of Latin are latinists. Generally, a Latino is a person of Latin American descent who speaks Spanish. Spanish derives from Latin, hence the term, Latino. I think I can understand your confusion since the words are similar; but nevertheless, Latin and Spanish are different languages. Latin, the language of the Romans and of the Western Roman Empire, is very important to English because about sixty percent of the words in English are from Latin or French, another language that also has its roots in Latin. English is suffused with Latin. In fact, it is almost impossible to understand the rich import of English writing in general, and of English poetry in particular without knowing Latin. Until only about a hundred years ago, educated Westerners knew Latin well. Some Westerners, recognizing the importance of Latin (and Greek), keep the old languages.

Here are a few words in this post that come from Latin or French:

pedantry (French)
derive (French)
language (Latin)
percent (Latin)
descent (Latin/French)
import (Latin)

Sermo index animi - Speech is the index of the mind. You can see here that Latin uses only three words to say what English needs seven to say. Latin is useful for its brevity.

To continue, if writing is the substitute for speech, what does your writing show of your mind? The obvious answer is that it shows that your mind is dark, confused, cluttered, and damaged by your fealty to Islam.

I expect that these minor points will be lost on you in any case. You repetitious posts show that you are not capable of much thought and that your regard for Islam, though strong and well entrenched, is really quite desperate.

I think I've addressed your last post. This little game is at an end Mr. Afghan. Just in case anyone else is still reading this thread, please bray immediately with your ludicrous chant and your bad sentences about hypocrites and Islam. Your constant braying truly illustrates what is written about you and represents the nadir of the Islamic mind. By the way, nadir, with its Arabic origin, is intended as a pun. Metaphoriacally, Islam and nadir are always in perfect conjunction.

Later lowboy.