Which causes more global outrage: a cartoon of a turban bomb, or real turban bombs causing real casualties? "Former Afghan President Burhanuddin Rabbani assassinated," by Laura King for the Los Angeles Times, September 20:
Reporting from Kabul, Afghanistan— Former Afghan President Burhanuddin Rabbani was killed by a suicide bomber on Tuesday in his home in the capital, the latest in a series of high-profile assassinations to rock the country in recent months.
Rabbani was the head of a government panel set up last year to try to begin negotiations with the Taliban, and his death was seen as a serious blow to those still-nascent efforts.
The bomber, who apparently had explosives concealed in his turban, entered Rabbani's home in an upscale Kabul neighborhood on the pretext of visiting him, said Gen. Mohammed Zaher, the head of criminal investigation for the Kabul police.
The powerful blast injured at least two other people, Zaher said, possibly including at least one other member of the High Peace Council, as the reconciliation body was known.
The Associated Press reported that four of Rabbani's bodyguards were also killed, but that could not be immediately confirmed.
Rabbani served as Afghan president in the early-to-mid 1990s, and was the head of government at the time of the Taliban takeover.
He was a Tajik, one of Afghanistan's largest ethnic groups. Although there was no immediate claim of responsibility from the Taliban or other insurgent groups, the killing is likely to heighten ethnic tensions. Most Taliban are Pashtuns, the country's largest ethnic group.
President Hamid Karzai's office said the Afghan leader was cutting short a visit to the U.N. General Assembly to return home.
Afghanistan's political climate, always violent, has become much more so in recent months.
Karzai's younger half-brother, Ahmed Wali Karzai, was assassinated by a close family associate in July. A close Karzai aide, Jan Mohammed Khan, was killed that same month, as was the mayor of the southern city of Kandahar, Ghulam Haidar Hamidi.
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Around 26 Shia pilgrims killed in Quetta
QUETTA: Gunmen opened fire on a bus in Pakistan’s southwestern province of Balochistan in a suspected sectarian attack on Tuesday, killing around 26 Shia Muslim pilgrims traveling to Iran, police said.
http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/20/around-20-shia-pilgrims-killed-in-quetta.html
I believe Mr Schwarzenegger is going to make a new movie, "The Turbanator". "I'll be back, inshallah!" :))
"..a cartoon of a turban bomb, or real turban bombs.."
Real turban bombs cause the death of a few people, while a cartoon of a turban bomb brings Islam down.
Keep drawing!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/05/drawing-muhammad-dessiner-mahomet.html
Greetings:
Every time I hear of a negotiating session between a real government and a bunch of murdering insurgents, I can’t help but think of a little bit of history I came across in T.R. Fehrenbach’s “Comanches: The History of a People.”
It seems that back in the mid-1800s, the Texicans were having a bit of trouble with the co-located Comanches. The Texicans, while a diverse and multicultural group themselves, were not so diverse or multicultural as to willingly accept the Comanches’ cultural proclivities, specifically, raiding and murdering and raping and stealing. Apparently, the Texicans felt that as they did not accept these activities from their own people, they would not have to worry about being dragged before the International Criminal Court, or some such, for violating the human rights of the aforementioned Comanches.
Now, one of the Comanche cultural activities that the Texicans didn’t mind too much was giving them gifts and certainly, the Comanches, except in the case of extreme paltriness, didn’t mind accepting them so long as they didn’t have to reciprocate. So, one day a Texican military officer thought, hey, let’s offer the Comanches a bunch of giftees and see if they’ll come to San Antonio (Antone to Texicans) and negotiate peace with us. So, the offer was conveyed and then the Comanches conveyed themselves to San Antonio for a big pow-wow at the local courthouse (because there are thing Texicans don’t approve of as the above aforementioned). So, the Indians arrived and were appropriately welcomed into the courthouse at which point, the Texicans, who apparently weren’t all that clear on the cross-cultural implications of a “pow-wow”, locked the courthouse doors and began shooting as many Comanche chiefs as they could as quickly and as often as they could. It seems that when “pow-wow” is translated into the Texican, it comes out as more of a “Pow!!! – Wow!!!”
Now, I’m not saying that this is how we should treat all our muslims brothers and sisters, bit I’m kind of thinking that a small scale pilot program might be a worthwhile “investment”.
Yeh. They could call it 'The Musselman Head-butt', with added emphasis on the last syllable.
Mere words, having no effect (August, 2011):-
"Afghan president asks clerics to campaign against turban bombs"
http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/08/09/idINIndia-58698220110809
Isn't there some special turban-scanning technology available to prevent this sort of thing? It may be an underserved market. I say let's raise some venture capital and patent something like the new TurboProbe™ system. Who's in?
“Now, I’m not saying that this is how we should treat all our muslims brothers and sisters, …”
Our muslims brothers and sisters? You just gave yourself away dude.
There is no doubt that much savagery has occurred in the annals of this continents history, pre and post Colombian , but as the present attests, throughout the Americas there has been an evolutionary process which has continually created a cultural fusion which combined that which came from Europe and that which was native. This has benefited everyone overall and led to much progress. To a Mestizo, Arapaho, Cheyenne, or Mayan islam is equally revolting and repulsive and obviously evil and tyrannical.
Note: The birth of this new America took place just a few months after the last bastion of invading muslims was driven out from the tip of Iberia early 1492. Thank God providence kept mulsims away from the Americas for 500 years.
because not being Muslim enough is Un-Islamic.
Are you familiar with the divide and conquer strategy of islamists, it's their MO form mo.
"all our muslims brothers and sisters"
Sorry, they're not my kin. No way.
Hi brothers and Sisters, on islamreligion.com they have someone to answer your questions on islam, go on there are waste their time.
Once again, life imitates art.
This man was president in the early nineties. Did he facilitate the Taliban takeover or was he truly an opponent of the Taliban? Where has he been for the last ten years? Just sitting back and watching non-Muslims die?
One more question: should we care that another Muslim ruler was assassinated?
I agree with you. I don't know if your're Muslim or Cristian and that doesn't matter. We all know what hate has done and is doing to humanity. This article is a prime example. Once bitterness is fed and given free space it turns into much more horrible characterisics and then spreads like a cancer.
From what I have seen and from his works former President Burhanuddin Rabbani wanted peace. As with Anwar Sadat, a man that showed courage in coming to his enemy Israel to make peace because of seeing all the deaths of his people. He was murdered for that act as well as the former Afgan president. I believe in humanity, but not in the Islamic theology without some form of reformation. When that happens then we can come together.
With all this news of atrocities committed in the name of Allah it is my firm belief that until we come together there will be no peace. Neither would I have totally believed in Christanity in those times just before that Reformation, but would of held out to the hope that I have in this crazy modern time. Without that hope, then we are lost and being spiritually devoid without any hope and go about life being pulled this way and that way by the seeing and hearing of inhumanities atrocities. We can get angry at it, but holding onto the hope of peace should never be drowned out by bitterness and hate.
Just a little background. Burhanuddin Rabbani was a key ally in the US war against the Taliban. I can still remember news clips of him rallying his troops on the Shamali Plains north of Kabul just before the Taliban were forced from power. That would have been Steve Harrigan reporting. During the civil war Rabbani bravely fought against the monster, Gulbaddin Hekmatyar, who rained unguided rockets on Kabul killing about 50,000. Previously he was forced from power when the Taliban seized Kabul. Prior to that he fought against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Not saying he was not a war criminal himself. War is messy. Especially over there. But basically he was one of the good guys, relatively speaking, and that is why he is dead today. I'm going to guess that Pakistan did this to thwart any political developments they wouldn't like to see. Always helpful, Pakistan.
nabi ZK (pbum)
...killing about 50,000. He was forced from power when the Taliban seized Kabul....
(qur'ection to above. "Previously" deleted.)
Obviously The I, nabi ZK (pbum) did not reveal an incorrect verse so it must have been the devil that made me do that.
Also, all cases of "I", in the above, should be replaced with I , nabi ZK (pbum). Reads better that way.
nabi ZK (pbum)
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/09/fbi-islam-qaida-irrelevant/
Hold on to your seats, the ackattack is back.
I'm not sure which is more entertaining, the comment thread I have routinely been censored in responding to, or the article itself. I can see today that life imitates cartoons which in turn was meant to say something about life. Perry is dead on despite issues I may have otherwise, with is rejection of the typical moral equivalence arguments underway in the US press and at the UN. If Obama is Israel's BEST friend, I wonder what Perry will call himself.
note: the comments above are not meant to advocate violence or discrimination towards Muslims.
All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia than in a grave and I'd also rather have Muslims killing Muslims than Muslims killing non-Muslims.
Would it make any difference to Afghanistan?
Werner Brothers cartoon with a Pig saying " Da dib,da dib da did.....HATS all folks.
See the Wired link above? Well the following is what Ackerman refuses to allow me to post. Maybe you all should post it over and over and over from many IPSes.
" Is this a deflection? I tried posting this twice now and I will post it again. Friday will point to an administration failure in the Middle East as Hamas says that any nation voting against Statehood will face retribution. Hamas has publicly stated that after they get Statehood, they will never stop from reclaiming "every inch" of Palestine by force. Perry has already attacked Obama's strategy and tactics.
Now if I remember correctly, some journalists when faced with Republican attacks on Obama regarding Rev Wright, suggested privately between themselves to do what? What was the tactic? To call republican leaders racists? So on Friday when the results of Rice/Power and the White House become clear, what will be the line to take against Perry's likely hammer? Attack HIS associations?
I will be curious what the op-ed here will be. More than a few Hillary supporters are not surprised by all this.
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The link again is above at Wired....
Which causes more global outrage: a cartoon of a turban bomb, or real turban bombs causing real casualties?
This is always the quandary with Moslems: reconciling the fictive reality of Islamophobia with the real reality of Moslem activists. This disorientation only worsens if you drag in the holy scriptures and the sacralized histories, not to mention their awful history, which even they don't dispute.
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But turban Jihad bombings cause no outrage in this quarter. A land-lusting Moslem being snuffed by a Jizyah-whore Moslem is not outrageous.
What outrages me is when a Moslem activist does a bomb murder wearing a niquab. Now that's gay. And although I support the Consitutional rights of human homosexuals up to the hilt, so to speak, the idea of a Moslem Male, a manly man of the utmost in testosterone, going in drag to do a mass murder just doesn't feel right. Be a man, for god's sake. Wear a turban and do the deed man to man, just like the Holy Prophet used to handle his murders, of which there were thousands.
Be manly, be productive, be all a Moslem can be. These days, given the last decade, the U.S. Army's An Army of One tagline is unseemly. General Casey should rethink that one.
What outrages me is when a Moslem activist does a bomb murder wearing a niquab. Now that's gay. And although I support the Consitutional rights of human homosexuals up to the hilt, so to speak, the idea of a Moslem Male, a manly man of the utmost in testosterone, going in drag to do a mass murder just doesn't feel right. Be a man, for god's sake. Wear a turban and do the deed man to man, just like the Holy Prophet used to handle his murders, of which there were thousands....
Correct AFP. Also, the practice of inserting explosives into ones rectum is yet another gay mohametan tactic pioneered by some mohametan named al assiri, or some such. No offense made to gay people as the word gay is now applied without reference to sexual orientation, as per the Southpark episode devoted to that topic. This being said, it is totally gay to place explosives in ones rectum with the intention to murder people.
The nabi read the other day that Karzai said that it is un mohametan to hide explosives in ones turban, as this is religious garb and therefore sacrosanct. The main issue seems to be the defiling of religious symbols. This strange logic may yet prove to be evidence for the validity of one or more of the many Multiverse/Alternative Universe theories now being pondered by Physicists and Philosophers. Possibly they come from an alternate universe where this somehow makes sense. Anyhow, one wonders about the halal bonafides of ass bombing. Would mohamet have done this if he had access to high explosives? What do the virgins think when you get to Jannat? What about the pearly boys? So many questions.
nabi ZK (pbum)
Precisely.
Which, of course, they will do if we didn't keep stepping in between them.....
NOTE TO U.S.: You can't save these devils from themselves. Just get the hell out of the way, come home and protect THIS NATION, before it's too late.