France's Muslim suburbs becoming "separate Islamic societies" cut off from the state

These are the fruits of the contradictory notion that letting an immigrant population have everything it wants of the society it left (e.g., niqabs, Sharia courts) will actually aid integration. Rather, it only allows the construction of replicas of their former societies, importing all of the dysfunction that actually encouraged them to emigrate in the first place and letting it fester anew in closed micro-states.

"Warning over France's Islamic suburbs which are becoming 'separate communities in a divided nation'," from the Daily Mail, October 6:

France's run-down city suburbs are becoming ‘separate Islamic societies’ cut off from the state, a report has warned.
Arab communities are increasingly rejecting French values and identity to immerse themselves in Muslim culture and lifestyle, it was found.
Muslim pupils often boycott school dinners if the food is not halal and most Arabs oppose marriages to white French citizens, the study by respected political scientist Gilles Kepel revealed.
As a result, France – whose five million Muslims make up Europe’s largest Islamic population – was turning into a ‘divided nation’, the study called Suburbs of the Republic found.
Dr Kepel wrote: ‘In some areas, a third of the population of the town does not hold French nationality, and many residents are drawn to an Islamic identity rather than simply rejecting or failing to find a secular one.
‘French schools, which are rigorously non-religious, have traditionally been seen as having the role of training young citizens of the republic.
But local officials say Islamic pupils are heading home for a halal lunch.
‘Most people in France do not object to mixed marriages, but in the suburbs we were surprised to find a very large proportion of Muslim respondents said they were opposed to marriages with non-Muslims.’
The study was commissioned by the Institut Montaigne think-tank. It will make recommendations to the government in January.
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Qur'anic-centred societies will, inevitably, mirror all the dysfunctional behavior, negative attitudes towards non-Muslims and violent jihad that is mandated in that hate-filled book.

These societies have failure hard-wired into them!


France stop that balkanization movement or you will regret it one day. Western countries must stop taking immigrants that are hostile to the customs and the traditions of the host countries.

The Muslims will yell you are racist, islamophobe and the rest and who cares! Political correctness is killing our western civilization if we continue in that direction.
Are we afraid of saying enough is enough? Assertive that's what we all need to be.

the french should have never colonized algeria, italians should have never colonized lybis and british should stayed out of india/pakistan and the dutch shoyld have never implnted a lax immigattion policy and now they paying a steep price.

Colonization is the wrong word perhaps you mean they should have never ruled over these lands. India was never a colony of Britain it was a possession or part of their empire. To this day you will not find colonies of Brits in India perhaps a few mixed people but not colonies. A colony is America and Canada in which a large number of Brits went to live. So I am not sure why the brits and France have allowed these colonies of foreigners to flourish? What was the reason?

The French needn't worry. This will no longer be a problem for them once they have 'encouraged' their unwanted guests to relocate to a more welcoming EU country, which is... http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/rapid-islamisation-of-britain-nightmare.html

That's why France needs Zionist hero Phillippe Karsenthy as it's savior. The near-neocon Sarkozy does not cut it. And the neocons that influence and "advise" him are even worse. Such as the dastardly "philosopher" Bernard Henry-Levi who is whorring with the Muslims.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

It took 1400 years for the Muslim population of the UK to grow to the point it was at in 1997. When the socialist Labour government took power in 1997, it doubled in 13 years. They
deliberately racked up immigration to change the ethnic make up of the country, to create a multicultural paradise (read 'socialist utopia'). This is not hearsay or internet rumour. The party themselves admitted it subsequently. And who better to import to a liberal western democracy than a load of genocidal maniacs who bring with them their very own system of social, economic and political governance to replace the evils of freedom?


Here's the account of how Labour deliberately imported hordes of predatory Muslims to destroy Britain: http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/02/labour-have-deliberately-destroyed.html

Eurabia isn't far off.

Thank you for the link. Dear reader, don't just limit yourself to a partisan link, even though it's correct - this was widely reported all over the British media.

Thus, the burqa ban will become null and void/ ineffectual/ unenforceable,...and what have you. Take your pick.

These burqa bans for instance, were too little too late and I saw this coming ages ago. All thanks to PC infected effeminate policing. The blessings of cultural enrichment are already the scourge of the West as it is (particularly in Europe). It won't do any good passing a bit of PI (politically incorrect) legislation through parliaments when the damage has already been done.

The same will happen in the UK, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Spain, Italy,...etc. Just like separate Islamic societies have become matter of fact in the Swedish city of Malmö...

"Quand la Femme est Grillagée" - Pierre Perret
A beautiful french song "The Fenced Woman"
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/11/quand-la-femme-est-grillagee-pierre.html

Europe is already Eurabia.

Poor Allah, his children must flee his islamic run hell-holes to sponge-off non-muslim nations as career-welfare cases that embrace the ghetto mind set for Shariah law oppressed females and children.

Wow , these muslims are doing the West a favour by showing how useless and pathetic islam really is with its attractions to the low I.Q. and violent people pre-disposed to riots and abuse females.
9/11 was NOT an act by Criminals , we now see that it was part of the new Crusades by islam against the west and these 19 murderers for Allah went after Civilians from over 60 Nationalities while also destroying some mini-Mosques that were in the WTC towers . CAIR has yet to condemn the attacks on Mosques within the WTC towers....and some may think that it's because they agree with the 19 murderers and see the muslims victims as martyrs for allahs cause to spread peace.

It's remarkable that France and other European countries are allowing this land eating cancerous growth to develop since it is effectively losing sovereign territory to a foreign presence - normally seen as an act of war. The Islamic cells will only metastasize. Europe is allowing itself to be eaten up bit by bit from within.

There has been self-deprecation impelling the insanity of multiculturalism since the early daze with Iraq Jacques pushing the EAD. Always with the dialogue, the Moslems, but it turns into a monologue when it comes complaint time.

From self-deprecation to self-depredation, a subtle but substantive shift of the razor blade over the wrist.

As a result, France – whose five million Muslims make up Europe’s largest Islamic population – was turning into a ‘divided nation’
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Almost *one in ten* people in France is now Muslim—the largest percentage in the West. Over and over again historically, ten percent has proven a disturbing tipping point for demands for Shari'ah and other accommodations for Islam. This is already ugly, and is bound to get uglier.

For instance, we are now just a couple of months away from the Holiday season, which in France means visits from Père Noël, Midnight Mass, le Réveillon—and the now annual "tradition" of car burnings by Muslim mobs. Bonne Année, Kuffar!

Last year, *1137 cars* were set on fire there. Here's one picture of the "festivities":

http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/01/burningcars.jpg

miriam rove wrote:

the french should have never colonized algeria...
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Are you aware, miriam, that—unlike most colonization—that the French presence in Algeria had nothing to do with the usual reasons for colonization, such as using it as a source for natural resources?

The French initially occupied Algeria *because the Muslims there simply would not stop pirating Mediterranean shipping*. Far from the French presence in Algeria being a *cause* of Jihad, it was a Western *response* to it.

The insanity of allowing unfettered immigration from Algeria and other former colonies into France is quite another matter, however...

From the article:

"Most people in France do not object to mixed marriages, but in the suburbs we were surprised to find a very large proportion of Muslim respondents said they were opposed to marriages with non-Muslims.’

I'll bet that what that actually means is that Muslim respondents are opposed to Muslim women marrying French non-Muslims who don't convert to Islam.

Because I never heard of Muslims objecting to Muslim men marrying - or, for that matter, simply shacking up with, or just seizing and raping, or 'grooming' for prostitution purposes - non-Muslim women.

And in news stories covered previously at this site and elsewhere, I have encountered plenty of cases of native Frenchwomen, of European ethnicity, who had converted to Islam and married Muslims...women who had been targeted for 'marriage jihad'.

Canon Dr Patrick Sookhdeo and his wife Rosemary have for some years now been warning churches in the UK and elsewhere in the West, that there is a deliberate campaign, on the part of Muslims, aimed at seducing girls (not just any Western girls, but in particular, Christian girls - from church communities, girls who are pastor's daughters, that kind of thing) and duping them into marrying Muslim men, and usually also converting to Islam.

I have no doubt that that is happening in France also.

So the reference to Muslim opposition to 'mixed marriages' would have to be about Muslim opposition to *Muslim girls* 'marrying out'.

Ummm... Why are these people still worrying about hallal lunches and intra-cultural marriages? There are bigger problems than that in France.

There are 751 areas where the emergency services refuse to go, and where non-Muslims are advised not to go. These are areas of extreme violence and crime. In other words, there are 751 areas that are no longer under French law. They have been conquered.

The French government should be worried about bringing these areas back under French control and about how to repatriate the non-citizens who refuse to obey French law. If they succeed in enforcing one law from which nobody is exempt, they will have a much more integrated society, regardless of what anyone eats for lunch.

You can't change history, Miriam. The time to act is here and now. What do you suppose The French government do to curb the uncontrollable islamic appetite to conquer and acquire? There is no justification for the hegemonic war that is waged on humanity by islam and its adherents. Please weigh the reasonable approach that almost all people who are not islamic try to use when communicating with muslims. It is almost always peaceful until provoked by violence. I understand that the places you mention were occupied by foreign entities at one time or another. But in every case the muslim people embraced modernity to a point thus improving the living conditions enough to where we are today. Were muslims responsible for the evolution in the communications of today? No. But they have no compunction in using the world's wealth of knowledge and innovation to their advantage. What will happen if the islamic world triumphs and destroys the producing societies of the world? Will we be better off? I think not. I and most Americans will fight to the death for our freedom. I am a follower of General George S. Patton. Victory doesn't lay in giving one's life for one's country, it lay in making the other poor bastard give his life for his. And thus it will evolve to those like me who will defend at all costs what God has graciously rewarded. Can I get an AMEN!!!!!

Canto28,

Islam has achieved it's immigration goals in France and other EU nations.It's only a matter of time until the indegenous people of Europe will no longer exist. Hopefully, western society will heed Europe's lesson, by repealing the liberal immigration laws of the 50's and 60's.

These laws are working for Islam's immigration agenda and unless they're repealed, what has happened in Europe will in time, happen here.

AMEN!! I was fortunate to meet John Wayne when I was younger and I know the Duke would say the same!

Diana, excellent post and your point is well taken. Too bad
that France IS NOT keeping their eye on the BIGGER problem,
THAN SOME STUPID LUNCH FOODS, ETC.
Like the UK, they will NOT recognize their OWN country pretty soon, as THIS is the agenda of the Muslim Invaders.
ALL NATIONS SHOULD TAKE NOTE OF THIS, AS THEY BEND OVER BACKWARS TO COMPLY TO THE MUSLIM DEMANDS. JUST TRY DOING THE SAME THING IN ONE OF THEIR COUNTRIES, AND YOU'D BE KILLED. ALL NATIONS NEED TO STAND UP TO THIS AND STOP GIVING IN TO THEIR DEMANDS-PERIOD. Again, good post.

imamerican: You can get two amens. I'm American also, and KNOW, we must stand against their 'determined invasion of our Republic'. Good post sir.

Great post Diana.

Its too bad the French leadership wont read your comment; your use of the word conquered might just sink into their politically correct thickened skulls.

When will the European countries "get" that they are slowly (quickly?) being conquered?

jus wundrin

Buraq - you said...

"Qur'anic-centred societies will, inevitably, mirror all the dysfunctional behavior,..."

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It may seem like a quibble, - or an excessively fine point - but I would think that if their Qur'anic-centered societies ACTUALLY mirrored their dysfunctional behavior, France and the rest of us filthy Kuffar would be a hell of a lot better-off. If they truly "saw" themselves, they would change.

I think the dysfunctional behavior is the symptom (expressed in projection) of deep, centuries-old cognitive/religious dissonance, not the reflection of such.

Whaddaya think?
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Hope you're having a nice Saturday! :)

This is happening in UK too. The "no go" areas in Britain,where Muslims never allow non Muslims to enter,and the police are afraid to enter these enclaves are soon becoming Islamic pockets. In the near future, Denmark,Holland,and Germany are going to join into this categery,

The Muslim Brotherhood's global jihad entices Muslim emigration with the promise of plunder of the non-Muslims of the West. When the focus of a "religion" is the ensuring of Muslims being privileged over non-Muslims with the legal "right" to plunder, abuse, rape, and murder non-Muslims with impunity, such emigration is really a passive invasion. When the goal of emigration is to usurp the established government and replace it with Sharia law, such emigration is sedition. there should be laws making the enforcement of Sharia law a crime of sedition and punishable by imprisonment, confiscation of property and deportation of non-citizens.

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