Iranian government news agency says that there are now more mosques than churches in France

And that churches are being closed due to "lake of attention." I don't know if these numbers are accurate or not, but the assertion itself is significant. With the increased presence of Muslims in France, or even with the widespread perception that their numbers are increasing, will come calls for the implementation of more and more aspects of Sharia. "Number of mosque is greater than churches in France," from the Ahlul Bayt News Agency, October 17 (thanks to all who sent this in):

(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) - In charge of Muslim council Syed Muhammad Mosavi said that 2000 mosques are constructed in last one decade and 150 mosques are under construction in this country and 4000 mosques are needed to be constructed in next decade.

Daily Lakawaix reported that only 10 churches were constructed in last 10 years and 40 churches are closed due to lake [sic] of attention and many churches are being purchased by the Muslims and they are constructing mosques over there.

An American office wrote in their web site that Islam is spreading very fast in France door of mosques are always open for the Muslims. Now number of mosque is greater than churches in France. And 25 million people are totally religious and 19 million Catholics are acting on their religion.

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Irrespective of the accuracy of this assertion, what can be said with certainty is that with every new mosque that is constructed in France, France loses part of itself. The slow suicide of a great culture, and France produced one of the greater cultures in history, is not a pretty thing to watch. Immeasurably sad.

The destruction of French culture and history by the barbaric Muslem hordes is indeed "immeasurablely sad" as Wellington puts it so well. The positive and uplifting Christian spirit was profoundly behind the divinly inspired great Gothic Cathedrals of the lle de france and their soring verticality. Chartres - Amiens - Beauvais - St. Denis - Notre-Dam de Paris! No other architecture has ever equaled that perfect synthesis of upward aspiring form coupled with light penetrating airiness. Saddly: this wonderful heritage is now being replaced with the violent subculture of Islam and it's stifling 7th century, mud-brick barbarity.

There are supposed to be about 40,000 churches in France, and about 2000 mosques.

Here's a call to double the number of mosques in France to 4000:

http://en.islamtoday.net/artshow-229-3697.htm

So, this article is just b*llsh*t.

That being said, there are very troubling trends throughout Europe, and many of these trends are worse in France. Only about 20% of the population attend church—and that includes those who only attend once or twice a year.

Many churches are being closed, and some are even *being turned into mosques*.

Mosque building has exploded (pun intended) over the past decade, and the Muslim population is fast approaching 10%.

So—while this latest dispatch from Iran is ridiculous, it does reflect a deeply troubling general trend in France and the rest of the West.

From the "article":

"An American office wrote in their web site that Islam is spreading very fast in France door of mosques are always open for the Muslims. Now number of mosque is greater than churches in France. And 25 million people are totally religious and 19 million Catholics are acting on their religion."
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This "reads" like one of Afghan Knight's or Defamer's posts here on JWatch.

"mud brick barbarity.." Very well put.

Good - a target-rich environment!


Out West in Alberta canada there is a new mega-mosque going up and the local Muslims deny that Saudi funding is behind it as part of claiming land for Allah and islam on canadian soil.
BUT.....the mosque is said to be close to $12'000'000.00
to complete and the MSM is either too stupid or fears asking the big question??? for how a population of about 1500 muslims can raise $12 million for a mega Mosque that they denied has outside cash sent in from the Whahabbi Anti-gay/Feminist pro-pedophile/war Saudis.

On on hand we hear Muslim leaders whine about how the poverty within the Somali youth has them turning to Terrorism and embracing the Radalicalized Mosques that other Muslim leaders deny exist in Toronto or even in canada, but then another muslim leader boasts about muslims having the highest incomes and most educated group with the lowest unemployment and crime rates or welfare rates.

Hmmmmmmm, CAIR canada posted a new release to boast about how a Imam was hired by Corrections-Canada federal Prison system to cater to the high muslims populations now in major jails across canada.......huh, which one is it CAIR?

The facts are that most new Muslims are Refugees that go right on to Welfare as part of their scam to by-pass the Immigration rules for living in canada with NO criminal record because Refugees can't be deported for crimes in canada and Muslims lawyers know it and play the system. The islamic Ghettos in Toronto are dotted acrosss the city Grid-maps and have special training for the Police to deal with Shriah law pracrtising muslims that can't touch non-relatives or touch dogs that Polcie may have with them.
Little Somalia was crfeated when enclaves uprooted from Africa and landed at Toronto's Airport to demand Refugee Status, then they poured into the local Apartment-Alley near the Airport to dominate the area and impose a Shariah by-proxy for non-msulims.
These Block-Busters took over the apartments very slowly and forced out the non-muslims one by one as leases expired, then another muslim moves in as a Refugee to demand even more Shariah Law ZONES to make them feel like they are back in their hell-hole the miss so much.

Now that these self segrated Super-Race parasites have all the needs met by the non-islamic State that hate so much , we now hear the whines of racism and poverty from islamophobia .
But i know for a fact that the Welfare system is a scam for these careers victims because they know that as long as they make themselves "Unemployable" by those Noir-Costumes or Bee-Keeper outfits and the rudeness and lack of English skills or poor hygene and no drivers Licence to hold down a job.....they qualify as if to be a Minority Group equal to "Disabled" .
AND NO Politician or Leftist/Communist/Socialist dares to speak-up and demand that Muslims using Shariah law or Costumes to avoid work and bilk the welfare should be forced to accept some type of work in exchange for sponging off the infidels taxes that comes from Christians and jews that they hate so much.

You would think that muslims would NOT want to shame Allah and Muhammed by fleeing islamic nations to live with non-muslims in non-islmic countries that give them more Rights to prictise their version of islam and the Quran....but NO, there is a large % of muslims that feel an entitlement to move to the West as a bogus refugee that might even have been an Oppresser but now want Welfare and Housing paid for by the State as some plot to murder the same tax payers that fund their pathetic lives of hatred and arrogance while on welfare to Shame islam and Allah.

In England and some parts of the USA there are already huge mega Mosques across the Nations.....they're called federal Prisons.

A new Martel will rise.

LOL!

Be careful, though, CGW.

No violence or hints of violence.

It is our greatest "weapon".

Why would the Iranian regime care about the advancement of Islam in the West? Because the goal of the Islam project, which almost all Muslims aspire to, is to convert as many people as possible to Islam and to bring the remainder under Islamic law. Increased numbers of mosques in the West means Muslims are closer to their goal.

And a new Jeanne d'Arc, and a new Jean de Valette...

I think it will happen. There are stirrings and rumblings at ground level. Not *all* French people are old (and the old still have the vote, which they can still use). I see quite a lot of young faces among those protesting against Islamisation.

Nor is the church dead. A friend of mine who spent a year or so in France, only a few years ago, said that she found lively worshipping - and bible-studying - congregations in the different churches she visited in the course of her research into French liturgical music of the 19th century. Not only in the great cathedral of Notre Dame de Paris herself, but in parish churches in the countryside.

Methinks the Persian Muslims are boasting and lying as Muslims so often do.

Now, my counsel to any French non-Muslims who may be reading this over my shoulder: do not despair. FIGHT.

If you are not actually an out-and-out atheist; even if you simply identify as a 'cultural Catholic': reoccupy your parish church. Attend at least once a month and put a bit of money in the plate. Get those bells ringing. Encourage your priest to ring the Angelus- the sound of church bells annoys Mohammedans no end. If there's a restoration fund, contribute. Visit your nearest Cathedral once a month.

Even if you are an atheist or agnostic, you can still adopt the nearest church and/ or churchyard as a non-Muslim cultural landscape - monitor it for signs of Mohammedan encroachment (e.g. vandalism, scrawled slogans, broken crosses and vandalised statues) and if you spot any, clean them up and protest to the local authorities at the top of your lungs. Take your dog for a nice walk around the church yard every day, or every week.

And if you hear the Mohammedans are proposing to buy up any church at all in *your* neighbourhood, scream at the top of your lungs about the destruction of cultural and social heritage.

Take part in Mardi Gras celebrations and other non-Islamic festivals.

Look after your local war memorial or other civic monument. Get a lot of friends with dogs - big dogs - together, and reclaim your local park, if Mohammedans have been encroaching upon it.

The Feast of All Saints and the Feast of All Souls approach - a good time to hold a picnic in the local churchyard or cemetery, leave flowers, light candles, and generally claim your turf.

Donate French classics to the library of your local school. Hey, hold a competition in which a prize goes to the kid who can best recite a classic French poem, or best read out a chapter from a classic of French literature (pick poems and books that the Mohammedans do not like).

Actively patronise those local businesses and cafes that *do not* sell halal food.

Search high and low for local, provincial and national politicians (or aspirants to political office) who are prepared to say NO to Muslims, and then get behind those people and PUSH.

There are all sorts of 'little' things that can be done, which can become the gateway to bigger things, and they will all add up, if more and more people do them.

BS, DD. Violence and threats are the only thing they understand.

Our advantage will be that we are able to harm them [in ways they comprehend] more than they can harm us. And make no mistake - harm them we shall.


I don't agree. We must target them with whatever means they understand. That's only one way to mahoundians.

CGW wrote:

BS, DD. Violence and threats are the only thing they understand.
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I disagree, CGW. If Muslims face a confident and strong culture in the West, as DDA is suggesting, then violence in many cases will not even be necessary.

Of course there are many times when we have to face Jihad violence with force—but this is *hardly* the only strong point we have, or even the major one.

The Jihad is being waged with violence, but also with Da'wa, and "lawfare", and many other other tools.

Our defense can take as many forms and more. Jihad Watch itself is one one of those tools, in the form of information and education about the Jihad threat.

Our having a strong sense not only of what we are fighting—Jihad and Shari'ah—but what we are fighting *for*, as well—is absolutely crucial.


Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was referring to violent repression as a response to violent aggression. I left room for non-violent forms of 'combat', as I mentioned:

"Our advantage will be that we are able to harm them [in ways they comprehend] more than they can harm us. And make no mistake - harm them we shall."

Psy-ops are always in play when dealing with mahoundians as far as I am concerned, and are often a valuable tool.

There are other, more subversive means as well, which will herein go unmentioned.

Hi CGW!

Definition of violence: PHYSICAL force exerted for the purpose of violating, damaging, or abusing: crimes of violence. The act or an instance of violent action or behavior.
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Now do you agree with me?

We must be VERY careful with our words, otherwise, we play right into the hands of the enemy.


No, I still don't agree. I am completely in favor of employing 'physical' methods of response, deterrence and prevention where necessary to preserve our Civilization.


As a matter of fact, I advocate for them.

We encounter here and elsewhere and often the fallacy of the dyer's hand, which is to say, "If we do what they do, we'll be as bad as they are." This is a fallacy and a foolishness we will de well to rid ourselves of. Violence is often times the only rational and moral response to material conditions. We live in the real world with other people, most of whom are not Twenty-first Century middle class Americans. It is only the latter and a smattering of middle class Europeans who think there is no difference between peoples and cultures and that we should all sit down together over lattes or chai and talk things over. This leads to murder and death too often, an entirely wrong outcome that any sensible person, i.e. the non-sentimentalist, would grasp in a flash.

I live currently in a lovely area of a large city in South America so I could get away from savages who indulge in ritual celebrations of human sacrifice. I live among the remnants of the Inca people. I left Canada and it's chthonic and omaphagic beasts who chant and emote and scream and hold up banners demanding human sacrifice: "Eat the Rich." I am sick of those who long for the primitive and the savage blood-lust of time we cannot seem to shake. See:

“Patricia McAllister, I’m here representing myself but I do work for the Los Angeles Unified School District. I think that the Zionist Jews who are running these big banks and our Federal Reserve — which is not run by the federal government — they need to be run out of this country.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IMjm4LxFa1c

This is what happens when a culture allows itself to lose all sense of the moral and the transcendent in a childish demand to be the "ground of ones own existence," as Feuerbach puts it so well. When man is god, then man is the ultimate arbiter of the moral; and frankly, men aren't too good at the moral. The moral is too often, as we see, the moralistic. "Violence is a bad thing and we can't possibly be so un-god-like as to get ourselves dirty." And men sink into the falsity of their god-head delusions and think that if only they can talk to people that all will be well because we are gods and we are all pure. No violence needed. We are all brothers if only everyone would just listen to us emote and play sentimental.

Our culture is increasingly rotten and it is due in large part to sentimentality and other forms of falsity in the man. Violence is rational in many cases; and non-violence in all cases is not just sentimental and phony, it is dangerous and leads to murder. Those who are far holier than I can bleat all they like, and I will continue on my way as I am, an ordinary man not at all a demi-god who knows all things and is more moral than God. It leads to the grave to be so phony and so cloying and so cutesy and mincing. Because of our lack of striving for the good and our substitution of it for the sentimental we are continuously under attack by savages who do not have a right moral any deeper than the chthonic pigs in the parks. I do not take them seriously, and I do not listen seriously to sentimentalists elsewhere who decry violence as immoral. It's time we accept that we have to do hard things in a hard world and that it is the good in spite of our moralistic pretensions. Grow up or go away. Human sacrifice? Cannibalism? Giving gifts of food to these little monsters. No wonder they think they're gods. They need a major spanking.


As bad as they are? We have to be far worse. That's the only real moral response. The rest is lies and self-indulgence.

I think you'd have liked this lady.

She fought the Nazis unremittingly and ferociously.

She was trained in unarmed combat.

On one occasion, working with the Resistance, she killed a man - a Nazi sentry - with her bare hands.

And she did it in part because, visiting Germany in the late 1930s, jsut before the war, she *saw* what Nazism was - she saw a Jew tied to a cartwheel and being viciously flogged.

*That* 'epiphany' moment, so to speak, was one of the things that motivated her wartime service deep inside Occupied France.

She was one wild woman...and a great lady.

More about Nancy Wake, whom the Nazis dubbed the White Mouse (they never did manage to catch her).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT0nV8uJy60

CGW, thanks for the clarification. And I am very much an advocate for striking back physically when we are attacked—I don't want to give the impression that I'm not.

CGW and Son of Walker, are you familiar with the "Prisoner's Dilemma"? I won't go into details here—those who are interested may look it up.

But the upshot is that the best strategy in the long run is to act morally—to never attack first, without provocation; to *strike back hard* if attacked; and to refrain from further reprisals as soon as the attacker surrenders and promises to end their aggression.

This has always been the strategy of the West at its best. It was, broadly, the Allied response to the malignant aggression of the Axis powers during WWII. It has stood us in good stead, and will continue to if we are consistent.

We must be peaceful, but *never* let an attack go unavenged—as the attacker will sense not mercy but weakness. This has certainly been true of Jihadists.

Dumbledore's Army wrote:

More about Nancy Wake, whom the Nazis dubbed the White Mouse...
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Wow! Thanks for that information, DDA. I can't believe I've never heard of her.

What a woman!

The video is excellent. Thanks for posting it.

We can compare Nancy Wake to some of her contemporaries, America First Committee. The pacifist movement argued against intervention against Germany:

It is not difficult to understand why Jewish people desire the overthrow of Nazi Germany. The persecution they suffered in Germany would be sufficient to make bitter enemies of any race. No person with a sense of the dignity of mankind can condone the persecution the Jewish race suffered in Germany. But no person of honesty and vision can look on their pro-war policy here today without seeing the dangers involved in such a policy, both for us and for them.

Instead of agitating for war the Jewish groups in this country should be opposing it in every possible way, for they will be among the first to feel its consequences. Tolerance is a virtue that depends upon peace and strength. History shows that it cannot survive war and devastation. A few farsighted Jewish people realize this and stand opposed to intervention. But the majority still do not. Their greatest danger to this country lies in their large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our government.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee

What I see today among the pacifists is a replay. The pacifists's moralism is a path to destruction that one can avoid by facing the reality that we are not gods, and that our best thoughts and visions have little important place in the world of men. But, we too live in a material world and part of that includes fools and lunatics. We must deal with them and their influence on the world just as surely as we must deal with other enemies of peace and progress. A moralistic pose might fool some, but it is a personal matter that need not influence independent-minded thinkers. Pacifism is a moral vanity. It leads to murder. A few people like Orde Wingate and Nancy Wake can lead the rest of us to peace. It could include trampling on pacifists. That can't be a problem, given that pacifism is a fascism, and pacifists are enemies of the people.

I live in Finland that has wide variety of Muslims from each corner of the world (as nowadays almost all countries have) in all of its main cities accross the country. Have lived in 3 of those (including Helsinki with biggest concentration of Muslims and mosques). We also have descents of Tatar-Muslims that moved here 19th century from Russia (they blend most because they look and dress like Finns on average).

And I know (and have known) many of them (including few Finns that converted into Islam). Believe me, they are not all terrorists or some "devils". On controversy, most are very SECULAR. They value their cultural and religious backround very much (also converts), identify themselves as believers, eventhough wouldn´t practice their religion regularly/at all.

Almost all of them were not pro-sharia (some of them actually ad
midded that in sharia-state they would be withouth hand/hands, in prison or dead). Those born in Finland (2nd generation of immigrants and converts) had similar habits, customs and mentality as Finns in general, also in ways/timeing to seak partner, and in number of children. In Finnish political debate higher criminal rates of immigrants has been subject way more than their religion(s). Although anti-immigration party "Finns" got 20% of votes 2011, politicians that attack directly against Islam can be counted with one hand out of 201.

Sometimes as I went to mosque(s) with these Muslims I knew for quick visit (just prayer), (almost) all of us smoked some cannabis on way there, and way back. Few even got drunk from time to time, and some were regularly on nightclubs. None of above excluded each others, and did´t seem to bother them or other Muslims (eventhough f.ex. in mosques there were some more "committed" believers, family, relatives, friends and otherways people who were avare of this, and knew each others well in small communities).

On those visits to mosques I did not see or hear anything that sounded even remotely hate-speeches, people seemed calm, peaceful, friendly, well behaving and rational. About 95% of people just drop by to pray and leave, few stay there for "preaching", debates, reading and studying faith more, or just to eat/sleep.

Europe has nothing to fear from Muslims. They are not here to conquer. Nor want world domination (yes, Muslims DO BELIEVE that Jesus will make world Islamic when he comes back, but he is not yet here, aye?).

In a conversation/debate we handled this issue with help of Google, Koran and hadiths. If I remember correctly, according to Koran "power of Islam" will strecth from "east to west" (or west-east) , and if you think about it, Islam is religion spread from Indonesia to western USA/Canada, even Hawaiji and Alaska. Some Muslims (remember, 2 biollion of them) interpretate this for world domination, but obviously most so that there are mosques and Muslims also in (west) America, or that (president of USA/Canada or) governor of Alaska/California will be Muslim etc. Some seem to believe Canada, or at least its western territory, will have Muslim-majority in the future (now Canada is even proud of taking hundreds of thousands of immigrants yearly), and thus only Atlantic Ocean is between continuous zone of Islamic countries from east to west.

Conclusion: 2nd generation (born in host country) immigrants tend to be aware of their religion/culture and proud of it, but also mostly secular and well assimilated to host-culture, that are not after sharia or world-domination. In time I believe Muslims will integrate into Europe and elsewhere just as Jews did centuries ago. High birthrates seems to be case just in 1st generation of immigrants, and among most strictly religious 5-20% (who want to follow their religion to its last letter, just in case).

In Scandinavia we have had terrible remainder what islamophobia might produce, as 2011 30-year old norwegian with car-bomb and weapons killed 77 of those he saw responsible for future islamization of Norway. On meanwhile, (for now) only islamic terrorist that has claimed human lives in Scandinavia was from Sweden, 2010. Life his carbomb claimed was his own.

Written by a Finnish convert (about Bible from Muslim-view ): http://www.angelfire.com/planet/koran/

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