Karzai: "God forbid, If ever there is a war between Pakistan and America, Afghanistan will side with Pakistan"

what's that expression?

No good deed goes unpunished.

Anything done for Muslims will never, ever get you respect. Because of their unearned sense of superiority they believe we owe them.

Yuck,

Sadly, the world is not big enough for civilized nations and the islamic ones.

The rest of us in the West will figure that one out, eventually.

Back in the daze of the hippies, who have since taken over management of Western Civilization, there was always the word relevant being spoken. Something was relevant if good, or irrelevant if bad.

Can somebody share this with Karzai? Who gives a damn about having Afghan's backing. This judge rules Afghan to be irrelevant to the case, or any case, just in case.

"..a platform in which the two brothers only progress toward a better future.."

Brotherhood in Islam means hating others and hating each other.

'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. '
Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/06/islams-progression-through-societies.html

The Ummah will always stick together against the kuffar. If there is a war between America and Pakistan, whose side will the 'American' Muslims be on? http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/brothers-and-sisters-in-islam-muslim.html

Karzai will be a dead man without the backing of American troops.

During the interview, Karzai demonstrated his ability to walk under a snake wearing a top hat. Yep, he's that low a character.

To the left in the West, and most dem’s in our country ,the assertion, “God forbid, If ever there is a war between Pakistan and America, Afghanistan will side with Pakistan” is considered a “Revelation".
To JW'er’s this statement merely is an inescapable, logical, historically verified and guaranteed outcome and reality. It is an assertion already taken as a given and obviously predicable.
In an age of the greatest existential peril, it is indeed literally suicidal to trust in a liberal for the sake of our sheer survival, scary times

Yes, "Karzai" would be dead without the backing of American troops. Also, yes, the muslim superiority prevents them from respecting "kufir," and all good deeds by kurif are expected. So why are we in either Pakistan or Afghanistan?

Too much blood of good Americans has been shed so that a people of a sociopathic society have the freedom of choice. Muslims don't want freedom, because they are allah's slaves. Freedom, gives you choice, rights, a slave doesn't have any.

We need to stop trying to educate, to enlighten muslims to the joys of "Freedom". The darkness of Islam permenates their mind. Allah is the "Destroyer, the Decevier, the Bringer of Death". Muslims who have come out of Islam and lived to tell of it, start their story with "I thought". They started thinking, something that is not allowed in Islam. According to Islam the total truth was revealed to mohammed, no other thinking is necessary.

We need to leave muslims to self destruct.

Remember, ytou cannot buy an Afghan's loyalty. You can only rent it.

Just sterilize the land and walk out.

In no way surprising. So unsuprising, it's verging on being boring.

For several years I have hear the whines from the peaceniks and Leftists that demanded that Canada get out of Afghanistan which also lead to the Toronto-18 muslim terrorists that wanted to slaughter 10'000+ civilians in Toronto (via truck bombs) because Canada is killed muslim around that world and supports Israel that is killing muslims in Gaza.
BUT....canada pulled out of the Country early in 2011 and yet the OWS goons set-up a protest in Toronto and posted flyers on pole for a Oct 15th rally to get canada out of Afghan, and then just this week I caught someone on a radio show from the Smug/Elite/wealthy/white/leftist/liberals crowd that now demands that canada stay in Afgan and should not have left because we will be responsible for the violence and return of the Taliban.

When Jack Layton was the head of the Federal NDP in canada we had to hear his rants about how our troops should be in Darfur , but that was AFTER he stayed mute on the mass-slaughtering of over 500'000 non-whites because the leftists don't protest the small-potato genocide . The NDP is pro-Union and does not condemn the members that vacation in Communist Cuba where homosexuals with AIDS were jailed to hide from our Tourists until then died from no real medical help to slow the effects of AIDS.

One thing that canadians should wake-up to is that the large muslim-pakistani population has been silent over the mass slughter of non-muslim in their homeland and the slaughtering of non-muslims in most islamic run nations.
The Toronto terrorists were of pakistani background along with the 2 previous alleged Terror cells booted from canada with bogus Passports or expired student-Visas aquired by fake ID for a bogus Colleged now shut down for visa fraud.

i think that our slogan should be

THE WEST, OUT OF ISLAMLANDS!
ISLAM, OUT OF THE LANDS OF THE WEST!

hmmmm.......
i kinda' like it!
comments?

Karzai: "God forbid, If ever there is a war between Pakistan and America, Afghanistan will side with Pakistan"
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Well, as posters above have noted, *no one* here is surprised by this.

More:

Karzai said tensions between the United States and Pakistan did not have any impact in his country's attitude toward Pakistan....
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Does the fact that Pakistan is harboring the Taliban, which is trying to overthrow the Karzai government have anything to do with Afghanistan's attitude towards Pakistan?

Even though this would certainly involve Karzai's being deposed—and likely brutally murdered as well?

Of course not. As is so common in the Muslim world, Islam trumps *everything*—even life itself.

What's a little murder between Muslims, when faced with the filthy Infidels?

Karzai will end up on the hood of a Toyota pickup truck someday, too.

Karzai: "God forbid, If ever there is a war between Pakistan and America, Afghanistan will side with Pakistan"

No matter how much money is spent to rebuild their country,or how many kuffar lives are lost to bring democracy and modernity to their societies, they will always find common cause with their fellow slaves of Allah.

The kuffars spending themselves into bankruptcy is after all expected, right? Coz Muslims being the superior people have a right to the jiziya. It says so in the Koran. There is no reason to express gratitude over something that you are entitled to. When will the kuffars understand? Gosh!

For the Muslims Blood (i.e. the ummah) will always be thicker than water (i.e. friendship with the Kuffar).

"Fghan President Hamid Karzai said in an interview to a private Pakistani TV channel broadcast on Saturday.... "

To be frank I don't trust any of these clowns - pakies or fganies. Pakies have nukes and fganies have nothing. If I was interviewed by a Pakistani tv channel and was a president in the neighboring worthless peace of real-state, it would be very difficult to resist to appease the potential aggressor (pakies). Most of the time the chemistry between us and the fganies was never good. Pakies are using fganies because they are the dimmest folks on the planet. Their country is all messed up from being a healthy civilization to a real stone and mud houses, and a bunch of goats and caves to sleep in.

Karzai is trying to appease Pakies because once we are out of that hell hole, he and his country may have to face the music from Paki talibans. Unless we are planning to hit pakies really hard, we should leave fganstan yesterday. That country is not worth fighting for. They will never appreciate freedom.

I don't have any feelings about Karzai one way or another.

Unlike Iraq, we had a justification for being in Afghanistan. Afghanistan actually hosted an attack on the US, and we were fully justified to invade Afghanistan. We are under no obligation to leave Afghanistan better than we found it, although we should follow the normal constraints of civilized decency.

Our mistake was in trying to implant a democratic government in Afghanistan. We should have simply killed as many Taliban as possible, captured Bin Laden (which we could have done in Tora Bora if the Allied command had not insisted on integrating Afghan tribesmen into the military operations), and then left.

It could be argued we have a certain responsibility for Iraq, as we invaded for what turned out to be bogus reasons, and then proceeded to deliberately destroy all mechanisms of social control which existed in Iraq.

There is really no reason to expect Karzai to be grateful or loyal to us, and whether he loves us or not does not invalidate the fact that we were justified in invading Afghanistan, however much we blew the occupation. I am somewhat grateful to him for laying his cards on the table, thus making it easier for us to pull our troops and government aid from Afghanistan and leave it to its own devices.

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23rd October. Worth noting

Yesterday, activists from the group Vox Populi commemorated the Battle of Tours (also known as the battle of Poitiers) in front of the basilica of Saint Martin in Tours. Charles Martel’s victory in the battle is credited with having saved Europe from Mohammedanism.

They wave Touraine flags while shouting “Islam hors de l’Europe!” [Islam out of Europe!]

Why are we gathered here today? Because we have a duty to remember. …Today in France and in Europe, there is a new invasion… the mosques, the street prayers. No more! Here, this land, is Christian! It is our home!

…Celebrate the anniversary of the battle of 25 October 732 which took place between Poitiers and Tours. For us, there is a new form of invasion in France and we need a new Charles Martel!

http://islamversuseurope.blogspot.com/2011/10/vox-populi-commemorates-battle-of-tours.html

Somthing that really angers me is that our soldiers are building mosques in Afghanistan. No wonder they despise us. What toadying, what cluelessness! If this is what passes for "war", these days, then we are really lost.

Txting from Ambulance.

Title of post made laugh so hard stomach now ruptured.

Should have got catastrophic health insurance policy.

BTW, I love the us military, but I'm disturbed whenever one of them pops up on the news over there trumpeting the schools his unit has built or coloring books they've delivered. "We're in this for the long term..." They're usually in the officer or nco ranks. Similar script the military had in Vietnam. I'm convinced that most mission creep comes straight out of the military and not the white house.

If our next POTUS doesn't get out of Afghan, I hope Congress cuts off funding for it. Drop Agent Orange or atomize the poppy fields first.

That the islamic 'stans would unite in war against the US: Yawn. Knew that.

That any voting American is surprised by this: Scary.

Think Realpolitik here. Karzai, corrupt and ungrateful though he is, could never have said the opposite, to wit, that in a conflict between Pakistan (and what a wretched excuse for a country Pakistan is) and America, Afghanistan would go with the US. Just not in the realm of the real for a major figure in Afghanistan to say such a thing. Pure PR crap by Karzai here and not much more. No reason to read too much into this. Yeah, the SOB could have just said nothing but he didn't.

Notwithstanding, what ultimately should be learned from such a statement as Karzai's is that the Islamic world needs to be cordoned off as much as possible so that it festers and rots from within. US Special Forces, on occasion, should be sent into Islamic states to take out the most loathsome creeps Islam produces in large numbers, but nothing more than this should be attempted because Islam is such a totally failed view of the human condition that, first containing it, and then marginalizing it to the fringes of world societies, should be the order of the day, the week, the month, the year, the century. Only sensible way to go.

Islam cannot be saved from itself. One knows this or should know it. Understanding that Islam is eventually doomed is the bottom line of bottom lines on this horrible excuse for a world religion. And in the unlikelihood that Islam somehow prevails over all efforts to virtually eradicate it, then the world will enter the darkest of dark ages in all of its history. I don't think this will happen, but even contemplating the possibility of such should send shudders up the spine of everyone who knows how the world really works and who knows what Islam is really about. In any case, the burden to all the world which Islam presents still afflicts all mankind.

U.S. Special Forces soldiers saved Karzai's life at least once, when a Taliban assassin attempted to shoot Karzai at close range.

They won't be there for a second time.

The good news? At least there will be no question who the enemy really is.

God forbid indeed because the best part of it all will be, our nuclear weapons will work.

Yes, the Americans went in for good reasons and they were backed by the majority of nations in the UN, even by many Islamic countries, as I recall. And the Americans have tried, very hard, but loyalty to the Islamic Ummah and anti-American propaganda and prejudice simply were too strong among the Afghans.

But something else concerns me; that of Demographic trends. Recent reports about them seem to indicate that even MUSLIMA's on average get as few or almost as few babies as women living in America, almost all European countries, Russia, China, Japan, and now Brazil and many other countries. Even Turkey and Iran are now down to 1,5 child per woman on average, Tunisia to 2, in many other Islamic countries and even Bangla Desh and Egypt birth-rates are falling.

But only the uneducated, sheepish, totally subdued women still get far too many children, who then get massively indoctrinated and whose boys can be so dumb, but full of hormones and energy and therefore prone to fight for Islam against the forces of Democracy, and do a lot of terrorism.

That then is something to fight for, something the Afghans presumably also want for their children; education! Not to convert Muslima's to any other or no faith, but to help complete the Demographic transition. That is the transition in which first death-rates subside, then later birth-rates subside.

That is the one reason I see for Americans to be in Afghanistan or perhaps only the northern non-Pashtun-part of it, with Kabul. If possible offering real safe refuge for all rebelling and fleeing education-seeking females from the South.

But if this is only a dream, yes, let America stop wasting it's men and money and pull out of that ungrateful, hostile hell-hole.

To:
"JACK MACKIE"
Of course we have been saying for years here at Jihadwatch that Muslims will turn on us in a heartbeat,and yet the fools that are leading our country remain naive as ever.They simply refuse to recognize or make any attempt at understanding the underpinning threat that Islam and the rest of the umma poses to the West.

Sometimes you feel like you are stuck on a ship of fools that is being driven by a blind captain.

We have spent our treasure both in the loss of our American men and women along with nearly a trillion dollars. When the spicket began's to dry up they will be just as dangerous if not worse then before.

There was no Arab spring and there will be no Arab Spring no matter what Hillary Clinton thinks.

Karzai might have said he will back Iran as well in his comments.

You would have thought we had military leaders that studied and followed the teachings from "The Art of War"By Sun Tsu, as great Generals like Douglas MacArthur did,or Patton who read Rommel's military strategy book.

There can be nothing more critical to America than having people in our government who clearly understand Islamic supremacism and recognize that groups like CAIR will practice a charm offensive on them using taquiya and kitman to influence their decisions that effect America's security.

Karzai must know it's only a matter of time before a radical with an explosive under his turban targets him, just as they have targetted his predecessors. I for one won't mourn him.

If there ever were to be a war with Pakistan my guess is the USA would bomb Pakistan back into the stone ages before it could use its own nukes.
God help the Islamic nation that ever uses a nuke on American soil.

Clearly, the Bush and Obama administrations' strategies vis-a-vis Afghanistan and Pakistan have been failures. Instead, the U.S. should be working toward the dismemberment and fragmentation of the two failed states, and paying off various groups to fight those who work against our national interest. That is certainly more cost effective than have tens of thousands of troops on the ground; a force extremely vulnerable to Afghan duplicity and supply lines dependent largely upon Pakistani territory.

Do not we all need occasional comedy? Karzai will side with Pakistan U.S. Soldiers protecting him !. But the award for action comedy always goes only to the U.S. They urge Pakis to fight Taliban, Haqqanis, Tehrik-e this or that even though they very will know all these fronts are pseudonyms of Pak Army.

To understand what karzai's - together with all of islam- mind works: Muslims-good, non-muslims-bad.

Just keep the above in mind and it all be crystal clear!

We all Know America is the worst of Muslims around the globe and we stand firm always by our Muslim Brothers!

Peace.

America at war with Pakistan/Afghanistan? Best thing that could happen - bring it on!

I meant the worst Enemies!

Karzai: "God forbid, If ever there is a war between Pakistan and America, Afghanistan will side with Pakistan"

fair_dinkum: God knows it, If ever there is a war between
Pakistan and ANYONE, it will be an embarressing, cowardly debacle and Afghanistan will sit there like useless, backward, inbred, goat herding paedophiles as it has for a thousand years.

if pakistan go to war with america. i would love to see that.
bluster and hollow statements.

When push comes to shove , who are the Afghans going to throw under the bus? of course it would be the infidel Americans and other infidels. They will side with their muslim brothers.
I hope this fact doesn't hurt the feeling of all these fellow American who think we are winning the hearts and minds of Afghans by building schools, roads, and hospitals. to muslim it matters nothing. allah and koran matters above all. So please fellow American stop living in a fantasy world and get back to reality. It isn't hard, just look at what the muslims say and do.

Karzai's statement here is just the capstone reason why we Americans should have no ground involvement in the whole Central/South/West Asia. None.

After we deposed Saddam we should've gotten out of Iraq, and let Afghanistan along with Iraq and Iran settle their own problems. Let them kill each other; there's absolutely no way we Americans can prevent the continuation of the momentum of millennia of Islamic barbarity which is inherent in their genes.

Asian "Nation Building" is Asia's problem.

We Americans need to fight future battles in defense of our own nation from offshore facilities.

Do we need any more proof that we should not be trying to help a muslim country?
American, Canadian and European troops. ' COME HOME NOW"

THE WEST, OUT OF THE LANDS OF ISLAM!
ISLAM, OUT OF THE LANDS OF THE WEST!

Since at least half of the lands currently claimed by Islam were stolen from the indigenous inhabitants do we include those as well as lands for Islam to vacate?

It's a "brutha" thing.

What did we expect?
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Mark my words on this day.

Within 6 months of our "departure",(oh, yes, there will still be bases and "trainers" there) Karzai will be assassinated, if that's the proper term to use.

Mark my words.

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To file under "you couldn't make it up"

Fresh on the heels that NATO had been supplying a Taliban leader with suitcases full of money for months before finding out they'd been giving it to the wrong guy, a guy who looked completely different to the Taliban leader, comes this little ole bombshell.

So, NATO's stooge in Afghanistan, whose governemnt has been receiving zillions in aid whilst the donor countries sink into the economic abyss, where 100's of NATO soldiers have been giving their lives, ad infinitum, would happily pick up a gun and turn it on a NATO member country.

It takes genius to be this dumb. Real genius.

Islam will win the war and US as usual pathetic looser.

"If things get ugly, I will stand with the Muslims"-- Barack Obama in his first *autobiography*