Libya: Al-Qaeda plants its flag at Benghazi courthouse

We Tried to Tell You, Part MCXLVIII. "Al Qaeda plants its flag in Libya," by Sherif Elhelwa for Vice, October 28:

It was here at the courthouse in Benghazi where the first spark of the Libyan revolution ignited. It’s the symbolic seat of the revolution; post-Gaddafi Libya’s equivalent of Egypt’s Tahrir Square. And it was here, in the tumultuous months of civil war, that the ragtag rebel forces established their provisional government and primitive, yet effective, media center from which to tell foreign journalists about their “fight for freedom.”
But according to multiple eyewitnesses—myself included—one can now see both the Libyan rebel flag and the flag of al Qaeda fluttering atop Benghazi’s courthouse.
According to one Benghazi resident, Islamists driving brand-new SUVs and waving the black al Qaeda flag drive the city’s streets at night shouting, "Islamiya, Islamiya! No East, nor West," a reference to previous worries that the country would be bifurcated between Gaddafi opponents in the east and the pro-Gaddafi elements in the west.
Earlier this week, I went to the Benghazi courthouse and confirmed the rumors: an al Qaeda flag was clearly visible; its Arabic script declaring that “there is no God but Allah” and a full moon underneath. When I tried to take pictures, a Salafi-looking guard, wearing a green camouflage outfit, rushed towards me and demanded to know what I was doing. My response was straightforward: I was taking a picture of the flag. He gave me an intimidating look and hissed, "Whomever speaks ill of this flag, we will cut off his tongue. I recommend that you don't publish these. You will bring trouble to yourself.”
He followed me inside the courthouse, but luckily my driver Khaled was close by, and interceded on my behalf. According to Khaled, the guard had angrily threatened to harm me. When I again engaged him in conversation, he told me "this flag is the true flag of Islam," and was unresponsive when I argued with him that historically Islam has never been represented by a single flag. The guard claimed repeatedly that there is no al Qaeda in Libya, and that the flag flying atop the courthouse is “dark black,” while the al Qaeda flag is charcoal black. To many locals, it’s a distinction without a difference. One man approached me with a friendly warning: "I recommend that you leave now; [the Islamist fighters] could be watching you."
But none of this should be surprising. In Tripoli, Abdelhakim Belhaj, a well-known al Qaeda fighter and founder of the notorious Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), is now leading the rebel “military counsel” in Tripoli. A few weeks ago, Belhaj ordered his fighters to take command of the Tripoli airport, then controlled by a group of Zintan fighters, a brigade of Berber Libyans who helped liberate the capital from Gaddafi loyalists. A few days later, Belhaj gave a speech emphasizing that his actions had the blessings of Libya’s National Transitional Counsel (NTC), who appointed him to the leadership of Tripoli’s military command.
According to a Libyan who didn't want to be named, a special military group inside the NTC is calling on Salafi fighters with military backgrounds to join a special group fighting in the rebellion. "There will be special benefits if you join whether you die in battle, or when you return home,” including monthly salaries. (One NTC source told me that Belhaj’s fighters are the only rebel fighters who receive a monthly salary.)
In a recent speech heralding the new beginning of post-Gaddafi Libya, Moustafa Abdeljalil, the head of the NTC, declared the country an “Islamic state, and sharia law is the source of all our laws." It was indeed an odd declaration for a leader celebrating his country’s liberation, leading many to wonder: Who are Abdeljalil and the NTC trying to appease?
It isn’t uncommon to discover rebels with radical backgrounds. In an off-the-record interview, one NTC member spoke casually of his past, explaining that the Gaddafi regime blacklisted him from the country for his ties to LIFG. He told me of his close association with Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, the infamous “blind cleric” jailed for his involvement in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, who he helped ferry across the borders of Pakistan and Afghanistan during the mujahedeen fight against the Soviet Union.
The war to rid the country of the Gaddafi dictatorship might have ended, but the battle for control of post-revolutionary Libya has only just begun. And it will surprise few that assorted radicals, jihadists, Salafists, and LIFG veterans are attempting to fill the power vacuum and replace one dictatorship with another.

The ultimate goal on many sides is, of course, the caliphate, but even if that is achieved, it will risk collapsing on itself in infighting over the implementation of Sharia and sufficient displays of piety to secure the right to rule, save for a tyrant with the right combination of personality cult and iron fist to hold it together. That would be the struggle for one caliph's lifetime, to say nothing of his successor. The entire territory will be plunged into material and intellectual poverty, as its establishment blames outsiders and conspiracies, and seeks wealth to appropriate from the outside because it will have destroyed the means of generating its own.

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Obama you sick SOB.

History will remember you as the second worst man to destroy civilization, after Hitler.

... the caliphate .... will risk collapsing on itself in infighting over the implementation of Sharia and sufficient displays of piety to secure the right to rule,.....

Islam will eat itself!

Gee, I'm scratching my head and trying to figure out just why I cannot find this information on CNN's website!

"Whomever speaks ill of this flag, we will cut off his tongue."
Is there anything else to Islam other than cutting body parts?
Al Shabab in Somalia, guess what? yes, cutting tongues!
Sharia Law is Satanic. Period.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/08/cutting-tongueslangue-coupee.html

"We Tried to Tell You, Part MCXLVIII."

Bwahahahahahaha. Robert you kill me. It's wonderful to see that you can keep your sense of humor throughout all this.

Actually it's not only al-Qaidah's flag, the information in this article is somewhat false. That flag is the ISLAMIC flag, the one that Muhammad employed in his battle. He said Islam was never represented by one flag, which is true except for Muhammad obviously, Muslims and Islam began with Muhammad.

The same flag is used by Muqtada as-Sadr's Mahdi Army and he is a shia. Also by Hizb ut Tahrir and they are a Shia-Sunni group.

Not just by the "Wahhabi" (i.e., Sunnis who take their faith seriously) al-Qaeda.

Perhaps Oklahoma voters should have banned Al-Qaeda Law, rather than Sharia Law. Is there a difference? The label is different, but the substance appears to be identical. The flag thing reveals it as more clearly an exclusive jurisdiction challenge, regardless of substantive differences.

That's 1400 years on recorded history you are dismissing. Historically the only time when Muslims rebelled against the Caliphate is when groups differed over their Ba'yah to the Caliph, this is because Muhammad said: "Whoever make Ba'yah to two Caliphs, then kill the latter of them."

Also during the Abbasid period which was considered a period of "oppressive rule" in the Caliphate, this is when people like al-Mawardi (a Caliphate purist), Ibn Taymiyyah (a Salafi purist) and hundreds of others who followed their teachings like ad-Dhahabi, Ibn Kathir, Ibn al-Qayyim felt. So unless similar events occur or someone provides evidence otherwise, I just don't think that Islam destroying itself is a valid occurrence.

You're incorrect, flags don't indicate laws but allegiance, the flags allegiance as stated on it is "no god but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger" in other words their allegiance isn't to a country but to God and Caliphate. Other flags that promote the same ideology like the Muslim Brotherhood are actually more explicit on other accounts, for example MB's flag says: "Prepare..." Preparing for what? It's actually in the Qur'an "Prepare against them whatever you can of force and horses tied on the frontier to terrify the enemies of Allah and your enemies, and those whom you may not know but Allah does know." (8:60)

It also has a Qur'an and two swords next to it.

So flags are not law binding, they are allegiance to something. Muslim Brotherhood's flag is allegiance to fight and terrorize people upon the Qur'an and al-Qaida's is to "no god but Allah". There really isn't an explicit difference when al-Qaidah which it's flag isn't explicitly violent does violence and when a group that doesn't do violence like MB has a flag promoting it.

For more information:

http://www.ikhwanonline.com/new/Default.aspx

http://www.as-ansar.com/vb/index.php

Muslim Brotherhood's and al-Qaida websites.

CNN never cared about the truth, all they care about is filling their pockets. Which is why they talk about the Occupy Wall Street Movement almost every second of airtime.

I don't think that changes the fact that displaying the very same Islamic flag that Al-Qaeda just happens to be using, is a matter of great concern.

If in fact, in the most likely situation it IS Al-Qaeda at the courthouse, this is the easiest way to advertise that.

And it only cost us ONE BILLION DOLLARS!

It probably is "al-Qaida" of more accurately the Salafi-jihadi movement.

Well I don't think there was a cheaper way to get Al-Qaeda there. In pursuit of that objective, Obama WAS looking out for the average American taxpayer.

It is explicitly "Islamic" in all its ugliness. More explicit than the (old and recycled) islamic tunesian flag with star and crescent. Why do you always try to divert whenever the topic of this flag in Libya comes up?

- First you claim "it's not Qaeda, it's Islam"

(see this thread: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/10/libyan-demonstrators-the-koran-is-the-basis-and-our-constitution-must-be-based-on-sharia.html#comment-830982)

- Now you post "it's Qaeda but more accurately Salafi".


My bad: read islamic libyan flag, not tunesian. So hard to keep up with all the new caliphates.


The flag is Islamic flag but al-Qaida as a NAME is an invention that was used after 9/11, the names they used to refer to themselves was "Salafiyyah Jihadiyyah" that is Salafi-jihadi.

"Why do you always try to divert whenever the topic of this flag in Libya comes up?" When have I done that?

There is no contradiction. The flag is Islam, the movement is Salafi-jihadi.

I'm consistent, I am just being misunderstood.

:(

And that black flag was also used by the Mahdi and his army of dervishes and fuzzy wuzzies in 19th Century Sudan.

According to one Benghazi resident, Islamists driving brand-new SUVs and waving the black al Qaeda flag drive the city’s streets at night shouting, "Islamiya, Islamiya! No East, nor West," a reference to previous worries that the country would be bifurcated between Gaddafi opponents in the east and the pro-Gaddafi elements in the west.
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This is, as the author makes clear, a reference to east and west Libya—but I cannot help but feel this has a larger message—the desire for the universal imposition of hard-line Islam, which we foolish Westerners have just enabled in Libya.

Oh, Gaddafi was *himself* a Jihadist—but given early signs, I fear his record will pale in the face of what the new, "liberated" Libya's record of Jihad is likely to be.

More:

A few weeks ago, Belhaj ordered his fighters to take command of the Tripoli airport, then controlled by a group of Zintan fighters, a brigade of Berber Libyans who helped liberate the capital from Gaddafi loyalists.
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More fools them. Gaddafi was indeed quite savage to minority Berbers, like so many Arab supremacists.

But I see *no* reason to expect that the Berbers will fare better under this Shari'ah state.

The situation will likely be similar to that of the minority Hazara in Afghanistan, who have been oppressed and marginalized in that country for centuries—but who were slaughtered outright under the Taliban.

More:

When I tried to take pictures, a Salafi-looking guard, wearing a green camouflage outfit, rushed towards me and demanded to know what I was doing. My response was straightforward: I was taking a picture of the flag. He gave me an intimidating look and hissed, "Whomever speaks ill of this flag, we will cut off his tongue. I recommend that you don't publish these. You will bring trouble to yourself.”
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Not, "observe our glorious flag flying freely about our noble courthouse"—just more grisly threats from the pious of Islam.

Thanks, NATO! Thanks, President Obama! You must be so proud...

IMO, the U.S. should stand back and let all the factions in Libya duke it out, and kill each other off.

I don't know if this an attempt to mock me, but when I meant "Mahdi" I meant "Mahdi" it's mentioned in a Hadith that the Mahdt's banners are "black" and when they appear the Muslims must join the banners, and there they'll find the Mahdi.

Yah! USA will become Obamastan if given another term.

According to one Benghazi resident, Islamists driving brand-new SUVs and waving the black al Qaeda flag drive the city’s streets at night shouting...

Moslem activists never seem to lack for the dough. Could there be U.S. taxpayer dollars at work here? Or maybe some from King Abdullah, our close ally, the one who took no criticism for 9/11, the one to whom our Prez Barack Hussein so deeply bowed.

*** Bukhari Vol 4 Bk 52 Nbr 220 ***

Mohammed said, "I have been made victorious with terror."

Say, didn't the Holy Prophet Mohammed fly a black flag?

Buraq wrote: "Islam will eat itself!"

It doesn't matter. Islam has been chewing at itself throughout history, whilst efficiently deleting other religions, cultures and peoples from history. And it has survived not just intact but with remarkable geographic and demographic growth.

The nature of Islam is to destroy competition in the form of progress or peace, even though this ultimately leads to stagnation for both the invader and its host.

Consider: Muslims are not happy in any Arab/Muslim country, but very happy throughout the West where they enjoy rights and privileges and benefits that are alien to their home cultures. Do they blame their religion for this, or their leaders, or themselves? Nope, they blame the countries where they are happy.

Now consider the jaw-dropping absurdity that they do not consider this absurd at all.

Usama Redneck wrote, replying to Spirit of 1683:

I don't know if this an attempt to mock me...
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I cannot presume to speak for Spirit of 1683, UR—but I don't believe he was in any way mocking you.

He was just pointing out that the Black Flag of Islam is nothing new, and has been used many times before.,

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