It was reported earlier this month that the Egyptian military was taking over the investigation of its massacre of Christian protesters from a civilian prosecutor, and Human Rights Watch has warned of an impending cover-up. The inversion of well-documented reality described in this report alone puts Orwell's Minitrue to shame.
"Egypt military jails dissident over Coptic clashes," by Samer al-Atrush for Agence France-Presse, October 30:
Egypt's ruling military jailed a veteran dissident and blogger on charges of inciting deadly clashes between soldiers and Christians this month, his sister and a fellow activist said.
Alaa Abdel Fatah, who was jailed for his activism under ousted president Hosni Mubarak's government in 2006, was remanded in custody for 15 days, said his sister Mona Seif, who is also a leading opponent of military trials.
The prosecutor may choose to formally refer him to a military court or release him.
Abdel Fatah's detention came days after US President Barack Obama called on Egypt's military to lift a state of emergency and end military trials for civilians.
Bahaa Saber, another activist who faces the same charges but was not detained, said he and Abdel Fatah were charged with inciting attacks against soldiers and participating in the October 9 clashes in Cairo.
Coptic Christians were protesting against an attack on a church when clashes broke out with soldiers outside the state television's building. Twenty-five people died in the violence, most of them Copts.
Witnesses said soldiers fired upon protesters and ran them over with armoured cars, accusations the military has denied. The military said a number of its soldiers died in the clashes but has refused to give a toll.
If that is the currently official line, it is a reversal. State television recanted claims of casualties among soldiers that were used at the time to incite Muslims to take to the streets against Christians.
"We are charged with inciting attacks against soldiers and participating in them," said Saber.
What, did bifurcating a human torso scratch a military vehicle?
Saber said he and Abdel Fatah attended the military prosecutor's summons on Sunday "convinced that the military has no right to intervene in judicial matters," and they refused to answer the prosecutor's questions.
"It was humiliating and unacceptable," he said. "This is an unjust escalation by the military. I will not be silenced nor intimidated, and I don't think people will be silent either."
The military has tried thousands of civilians since it took charge of the country after Mubarak's ouster on February 11, in trials rights groups say are unfair and result in harsh sentences.
Saber said the pair's lawyers were not allowed to see the military prosecution's evidence.
Seif said several people, including a journalist and a blogger who opposes the uprising that ousted Mubarak, had filed complaints against her brother.
The blogger, who calls himself Ahmed Spider, posted on YouTube an interview with Abdel Fatah that he said led to the military prosecutor's charges.
The video shows Abdel Fatah at a protest saying he wanted to "cut off the military's hand" and threatening to storm the interior ministry.
How this leads to and explains the events of October 9, the military will likely not discuss.
Saber questioned the military's impartiality in investigating the deadly clash, given its role in the incident.
Military spokesmen were not immediately available for comment, but top generals have denied that soldiers killed any demonstrators and blamed a plot by "enemies of the people."
Hmm, Smells like the Chicago way of law and order. Mm mm mm.
The truth is out there for anyone who wants to see it. A link was posted here a few days ago to a youtube video showing an APC running down people who were clearly unarmed and acting peacefully. The results of this brutality are shown in the hideous stills linked from this article.
So the truth is there for all to see. And it is ugly. And many thanks to JihadWatch for defending the truth in this case, which truth is under assault by the perpetrators of this monstrous crime.
Many will turn their heads away, try to forget, try to get along. But the blood of the martyrs cries out. My deepest sympathy to all Copts who have endured persecution. And it is well neigh for people to wake up and smell the coffee.
nabi ZK (pbum)
BTW I, nabi ZK (pbum) have a copy of that video on my phone and I, nabi ZK (*), nabified and such, have shown it to a few people by now. Even my multiculti brother was speechless when confronted with the reality. And he had to admit that his hated evangelists, who want to make America into a theocracy, according to him, are not capable of anything like the enormity of what has happened to Christians in the Middle East, from Egypt to Iraq, not to mention the wider picture including Pakistan and other parts of South Asia. He might have even bought a clue!
Oh yes. Put this stuff on your phones and put it in peoples faces. Very effective. A picture is worth a thousand words and a small video clip on your phone has 29 picture frames per second. So 30 sec of video = 870 pictures = 870,000 words. The blood of the martyrs demands truth. And pictures and video don't lie.
nabi ZK (pbum)
....These dumb@%#& Egyptian generals forgot that everyone has a cellphone camera now.... so they can't hide from the truth...
One case would be that the military simply retained power, and either cancelled elections, rigged them, or marginalized the legislature. That's the usual pattern in the Middle East.
Once they become more secure in power, they can be expected to suppress the Salafists and lean on the Muslim Brotherhood. Attacks against the Copts will be suppressed, and the Copts will continue to encounter irritating, though not insurmountable, difficulty in maintaining their churches.
Hmmm. Sounds like they could have saved themselves the trouble and pain of a revolution.
And, that's the best possible case to expect.
I dont think the situation will get any better after the military leaves,the new government will be as Muslim as this one.Only a fool would think otherwise,and there are many journalists,I think the majority,who are in dreamland.
The West has a Double Heritage:Greco-Roman and Judeo-Christian.So much so that even Richard Dawkins,atheist scientist,who wrote the popular "The God Delusion" has said "I am a cultural Christian"
http://www.antisharia.com/2011/10/31/video-where-richard-dawkinsfamous-atheist-scientistsays-he-is-a-cultural-christian/
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Watch the Video by David Wood,called "Who Killed Muhammad?
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And a NEW BOOK is coming out,one I find fascinating:
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1.answeringmuslims.com
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3.thereligionofconquest.com
4.See the videos (click on "online videos") of abnsat.com(like "Jihad Exposed","Debate","Jesus or Muhammad").
The videos are also on youtube,write "abnsat".
Plus a new blog about the Persecution of Christians(mostly by Muslims)
http://www.persecutedfourchrist.blogspot.com
5.Also PYEM Ministry:
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(very critical of Islam)
6.The blog "Debunking Quranic Science":
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7.WIKISLAM(with 1,400 articles):
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8."Confident Christianity by Mary Jo Sharp":
Home Page:
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Her blog:
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Also read:
antisharia.com and:
avraidire.com:
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PBUY Nabi for being true.
Zonie, I also echo London Jim's PBUY--heck, salaam, Shalom aleichem, 祝您平安 (zhu nin ping an).
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