I tried to tell you. Sharia Alert from Egypt: "Egyptian women fret as 'modesty' becomes election issue," by Joseph Mayton for The Media Line, November 14:
[...] And, freed from the strictures of the Mubarak era, politicians are pushing forward on an Islamic agenda.“It’s so frustrating,” says Marwa, who told The Media Line that she wears the veil in part because her mother wants it and partly out of the conviction that “it was the right thing to do.” But at the same time she is critical of politicians “who would dare tell a woman what is appropriate. That is un-Islamic.”
The two are typical young Egyptian women, who participated in the January and February uprising that forced out president Hosni Mubarak and put the country on the path toward democracy. But with elections just two weeks away, they are lamenting how women are being left out of the dialogue and discussion of the future of the country.
“We were at the front of the protests, getting beaten and supporting the future of Egypt,” recalls Heba. But now, she says, “Women are not being heard from and this is causing a lot of frustration among myself and my friends who want the ability to choose our lives and what we do.”...
The controversy over the status of women in post-Mubarak Egypt came to a head at the start of November after Hazem Saleh Abu Ismail, a leading presidential candidate and Muslim cleric, gave two television interviews in which he outlined an Islamic future for the country that would impose Saudi Arabian-style dress and behavior on the public.
In an interview on the 90 Minutes television program, Abu Ismail said he supported what he called “Islamic dress” for women, meaning the hijab, or veil. Asked about what would happen to a woman wearing a bikini on the beach, he responded, “she would be arrested.”
Days later, he went on the Biladna Bil Masr program and lashed out at the show’s popular TV host, Reem Maged, and all other unveiled women in the country. He declared al-tabarouj (the failure to cover one’s hair and of wearing makeup) a “mortal sin” and said he would make such actions “criminal,” citing his interpretation of Islamic law.
He told Maged he wouldn’t have agreed to the interview at all because of her dress but said that in politics “things are different” and he has to meet with people from all walks of life. To underscore his point, a Facebook-based Salafist news outlet re-aired the interview with Maged’s head and face covered by a dark filter to “veil” her.
“I desire for you what I desire for my sister, and I admire your courage during the January revolution and I wish the next time we meet, things will be different,” Abu Ismail told his host inviting her to cover her hair....
In nearby Tunisia, which like Egypt has a largely secular elite, the moderately Islamist Ennahda Party won more than 40% of the vote for a constituent assembly last month, making it the dominant power in the country’s emerging democracy. In Egypt, 67% of those polled by the Pew Global Attitudes Project last April said the country’s laws should strictly follow the Quran's teachings. Another 27% said that they should follow the values and principles of Islam....
If elected, Abu Ismail has promised to apply Islamic law to other realms of Egyptians life, which would mean closing down casinos, outlawing the drinking alcohol in public, forcing Copts to pay a special tax for not converting, and punishing women who would wear “immodest” clothes.
That special tax would be the jizya, which the Qur'an says that dhimmis must pay "with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (9:29).
For now, it is an uphill battle against the conservatism that has risen in Egypt since July, when the Salafists – those who adhere to what they call a literal interpretation of the Qur’an – converged on Cairo’s Tahrir Square in the hundreds of thousands, demanding an Islamic state for Egypt. Women saw this as the beginning of the struggle for their rights.For Marwa, Heba and other women in the country, it is a fight for women’s rights. “We must stand against this sort of thing, whether we are veiled or not,” says Heba, “because freedom of choice is important for Egypt’s future.”
Good luck.
I read that three of four potentials for Egypt's presidential election have had or do have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, the only missing link of those is Muhammad alBaradei, who has reportedly denied having considered running for office in the first place. As such, this shouldn't be a surprise. A cold Islamic winter is blowing!
I read that three of four potentials for Egypt's presidential election have had or do have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, the only missing link of those is Muhammad alBaradei, who has reportedly denied having considered running for office in the first place. As such, this shouldn't be a surprise. A cold Islamic winter is blowing!
This is the news that the west will either not hear or worse not acknowledge. The deaf, the dumb and the blind.
The whole middle east is lining up, first against Israel and second against non-muslims and the freedom of the west.
This is the wonderful outcome of the Arab Spring that Obama welcomed so gleefully, and has since given such a rousing approved of. I don't want to get off on Obama, lets just say "Impeach him" and let it go at that.
That man has on several occasions called for Jews and Christians to pay the Jizya. He is not only a political figure but an Islamic scholar as well as a "member" of the Muslim Brotherhood, of which he is proud of. This guy is probably the most dangerous of the Pres. candidates in Egypt, although there are two more that are essentially (in their core) the same, in that they support the Muslim Brotherhood and it's ideology.
Sounds awfully similar to to the mystified protestations of Iranian women after they helped overthrow the Shah. History repeats itself...and no one is the wiser.
Politics has come a looooooooooong way from the days when pols promised to put beer in the bubblers.
Arresting women for wearing a bikini! Yikes! He might have a point if the wearer is 150lbs or more; but otherwise?
Let me open my ever building Islamic scrapbook and make another entry under Loony Tunes,
I'm sure the religious police will love their new job--especially some light-colored female foreign tourist.
"arrest bikini-wearing women if elected"
They probably won't be elected!
hehe.
Bullies and control freaks, getting off on the idea of being able to push women around.
And they don't just push women around within dar al Islam.
They're trying it on in the free West, too, wherever they've managed to settle in sufficient numbers, and are feeling cocky.
The famous 'Cronulla riots' in Australia in 2004 were preceded by years of Muslim males throwing their weight around on the beach at Cronulla - in particular, ogling, leering, and verbally and even physically sexually harassing Australian non-Muslim women in normal swimgear (whether bikinis, or other togs). When a Surf Lifesaver (who is the recognised arbiter of Good Beach Behaviour) remonstrated with one group of vicious Mohammedan males, rebuking them for their harassment of Aussie girls, he was lynched and badly beaten. Non-Muslim Australians rallied to protest against this Muslim atrocity; upon which, hordes of allahu-akbaring Mohammedan males, some of them armed with guns, swarmed out of Lakemba Mosque and other nests of the Ummah, and rampaged through Cronulla and neighbouring suburbs, bashing, smashing things, burning, looting and even firing rifles at a church (while there were people inside).
And here is an article about the burka, that appeared in Australia's Courier-Mail newspaper last year.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/the-conrtroversial-ban-the-burka-debate-reaches-australian-shores/story-e6frereo-1225887202686
Excerpt:
"A retired newspaper editor tells me Muslim men patrol [Queensland's] Gold Coast beaches demanding women in bikinis cover up."
Sharia-pushers. Allah's enforcers.
If they're still doing that (is anyone here from the Gold Coast? if so, have you seen them doing this? or, for that matter, at any other Australian beach?) it needs to be videoed and then a formal complaint of sexual harassment made by every affected woman, to the police.
A very interesting article from Front Page, 2008, looking at the psychodynamics of the Islamic veil/ Slave Rag.
http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=118F9624-B318-4C86-AA6F-BBAC6D0289FA
"Symposium: Hate Behind the Niqab".
Featuring two ex-Muslims (Nonie Darwish, originally from Egypt, and Abul Kasem, originally from Bangladesh) and four savvy non-Muslims - Phyllis Chesler, Brigitte Gabriel, David Gutman, and Nancy Kobrin).
dda - I would suggest that Australian women should carry a loaded handgun to the beach along with the sun block.
“I desire for you what I desire for my sister.."
If I were his sister I'd be (literally) watchin' my back...
From the article:
"'I desire for you what I desire for my sister, and I admire your courage during the January revolution and I wish the next time we meet, things will be different,” Abu Ismail told his host inviting her to cover her hair....'"
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This is very, very creepy.
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Misogynistic, Jihadiesque, Supremacist Pig Candidate.
But at the same time she is critical of politicians “who would dare tell a woman what is appropriate. That is un-Islamic.”
This woman does not know what in the hell she's talking about. Telling your bimbo what to do is at the very basis of the Islam. So much so, in fact, that if a guy needs solid info on how to properly beat your woman, you got a chapter rat there in the Holy Ko-Ran with Allah telling you how to do it.
*** 33:59 ***
Mohammed! Tell your wives and daughters and all Moslem women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way. That will be better.
Feminism, Doggy-Style
Moslimas should read the Ko-Ran, if they actually can
But maybe they can't, cuz of things like Boko Haram
Coeducation, this is not a central theme of Islam
Where ideas of equality are greeted like so much bad ham
And they still keep trying to sell us that line "all cultures" are equal. Yup, this should prove it.
Egyptian Election Polls can be found here:
http://dedi.org.eg/project/egyptian-election-poll/
As those in prison and in macho, anarchist groups (such as private militias) are wooed by jihadists, so are vulnerable, even beaten down (conditioned), weak, or somewhat childish women who cannot cope with or do not want the responsibility of an adult. Also, look at the tagiyya (Mohammad's deceit of war - against the West and non-Muslims). Women are told that all the covering up is to "protect" them and their modesty, that it is a positive, self-affirming "right" to wear the veils. They do not realize that they are in effect agreeing to be responsible for any man's lust for them, even for being raped. Even fully veiled, Muslim men have made the argument that a woman's eyes are too seductive, thus making her responsible for their lust no matter what she wears. And, Western women do not realize that once women convert to Islam and start wearing the veils they are in submission, and if they stop wearing the veils they are in danger of being killed as apostate.
Also, what needs to be pointed out is that negative reaction in the West to women wearing the hijab is often out of shock and horror that a woman should have to be oppressed or would choose to be oppressed in a free society. I once heard a woman tell a jihabbed woman, "This is America, you can take the veil off your mouth now." It is not a disdain for decency or modesty. It is that women in the West are seen as equally valuable as men with the same human dignity. The same laws apply to men as to women, and women are not treated like children or made fully responsible for the actions of men. There may be domestic violence abusers who weasel their way out of responsibility for their abuse of women, but it is not sanctioned under U.S. law as it is in Sharia law, which enforces Islamic principles of male dominance and impunity.
Too much skin reveals too little faith and does not a good Moslem make.