Above all, the United States must not look as if it were trying to humiliate Osama bin Laden. He had vowed to destroy our nation and had murdered 3,000 Americans, a fate worse than humiliation as far as many are concerned, but we must not look as if we were out to humiliate him.
And why not? If the Vast Majority of Peaceful Muslims abhor and repudiate bin Laden's supposed hijacking of their allegedly peaceful religion, why would his "humiliation" bother them? And if it would bother them, what does that suggest about the actual nature of their beliefs?
"GREEN: Body of evidence: Americans need proof of dead villain like Libyans were given," by Anneke E. Green for the Washington Times, November 9 (thanks to Inexion):
Five days after being killed, Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi was finally buried at dawn in an undisclosed location in the Sahara desert. This would have been five days too late had President Obama been calling the shots. Osama bin Laden’s remains were famously disposed of within hours of his death and “eased into the sea” in conformance with Islamic practice, according to the White House. Families of the victims of bin Laden’s atrocities have to take the government’s word for it that he’s actually dead because the Obama administration continues to refuse to provide proof.To date, no photos or video of bin Laden’s body have been released despite numerous requests and a lawsuit filed by watchdog group Judicial Watch. The Obama administration made clear in a recent response to the lawsuit that presidential preference is the driving force behind its stonewalling. Oddly for a legal brief, its very first background point of reference quoted a transcript of an interview Mr. Obama gave to “60 Minutes”: “It is important for us to make sure that very graphic photos of somebody who was shot in the head are not floating around as an incitement to additional violence.” The brief additionally fretted, “The mere release of these images of Osama bin Laden could be interpreted as a deliberate attempt by the United States to humiliate the late al Qaeda leader.”...
Funny how ordinary Muslims might be "humiliated" by the haram treatment of the corpse of a monstrous Jihadist, but not by the horrific acts of such a Jihadist claiming to represent them and their faith...
Funny how ordinary Muslims might be "humiliated" by the haram treatment of the corpse of a monstrous Jihadist, but not by the horrific acts of such a Jihadist claiming to represent them and their faith...
Sorry for the double post. My internet connection has been dodgy or worse all day.
Muslims are obsessed with humiliation and are paranoid that kuffars are perpetually trying to humiliate them: http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/honor-shame-culture-and-humiliation-in.html
Moslems have the only belief system in human history that flies into a murderous rage when a mirror is held up to its face.
*** Tabari 9:69 ***
Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us.
- the Holy Prophet Mohammed
Frankly, Prez Barack Hussein got it right on not releasing the Obama bin-Laden death photos. If he had, we would've been subjected to a nauseating week of bleach blonde laywerettes on Fox News discussing the finer points of sensitivity and tolerance, and how to navigate through the troubled waters of Islam, which proposes to substitute Moslem progress for the Golden Rule.
The Pilgrim's Progress: From This World to That Which Is to Come
Moslem Man, yea! for he is the modern day Pilgrim
Boldly venturing to distant lands to keep things prim and in trim
If there's trouble, hey, that wasn't us, no, it was them
These Pilgrims are babbling brooks of offal, kept afloat in currents of phlegm
- the Holy Prophet APF
I tend to agree with Pat Condell when he said that "the Americans should have brought Osama bin Laden back from Pakistan and mounted him on a stake at Ground Zero, pickled him in alcohol, with a porkchop in his mouth, and a fireman's axe shoved all the way up his ass."
Yes; Obama thinks it's more politically rewarding for him to
denigrate Netanyahu, instead of Bin Laden.
Actually, I can't think of anything more humiliating than a bunch of U.S. Special Forces guys breaking into his smelly bedroom and finding him hiding behind his wife.
Muslims are so brave.
Considering how Muslims treated the corpses of "great leaders" who went down in coups (Iraq in the 1950's; the Shah's generals in 1979-80; Qaddafi recently), I think that the Obama administration's scruples were silly. Further, the jihadis in Somalia weren't shy about playing with dead US service personnel back in the Clinton years. Let's put photos of the dead Bin Laden online and be done with it.
Then again, we know Bin Laden is dead because when his corpse was tipped off the ship, a great cloud of dead fishes and crabs floated to the service a few seconds later.
"Yes; Obama thinks it's more politically rewarding for him to denigrate Netanyahu, instead of Bin Laden."
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frankly tom, i think that bibi does not give a s**t what the bastard in chief thinks, nor the frog for that matter.
however, i find that bibi is getting waaaaaay too soft for israel's sake!
Dumbfounded. Totally dumbfounded.
Now that I've recovered from the initial shock maybe, just maybe, Obama wanted Osama to go to his fools' paradise with his self-esteem in tact.
“It is important for us to make sure that very graphic photos of somebody who was shot in the head are not floating around as an incitement to additional violence.”
Additional violence? From whom? Who does he mean exactly? Is he banging the "reprisal fear" drum again? Reprisals that never happen.
Or does he mean more violence from muslims? Well they're violent anyway. Doesn't he realise that the golden is not "You must never offend muslims"?
You can't live your life always trying to please another person or group. They might be wrong. Appeasement is not a virtue. It is cowardice.
Well, until someone gets the before-deep sixed-ocean photos of psycho oslammer released, we can console ourselves with the after-deep sixed-video of achmed, the dead terrorist guy, who although one of the many fortunately dead nincompoop terrorists, nevertheless is the spitten' image of another dead terrorist idiot, by now, eh?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go after
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCSxara3l9I before
Ah, if only they were this stupid, always.
And after 1400 years of historical battle evidence of islam against the world, it is evident, throughout history of islamic battles, that the only matter they respect is terminal physical force, never reason of any kind, so we will likely all be in major battles, somewhere in the world, sometime. It has never been otherwise since the psycho cult was dreamed up nefariously, by the pathetic, little desert godless psycho, criminal savage: mo!
Just a question of when and where, if you read all the wide evidence from around the world these days.
How is it not possible, for major battles, with this kind of hatred from the sheets, all over the West, including rape, pathologic lies and all the rest, of course:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8MuydPdVQ_Q
And increasing incidents, globally, everywhere, so much more, evidence of the results of lifelong brainwahing in blood and hatred, of the savages, lacking ever, the way of Goodness and Love, of the only True Way of G_d and Christ, ever, except for the few brainwashed who are able to excel and wake up to apostacy! We are in stealth war globally, with stealth evil, it will grow before it retrenches, after the inevitable battles.
http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/11/11/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-%E2%80%93-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/
read this.. taking into account, Valarie Jarret is a baha'i
each and every day that this bastard is living in the w.h. instead of a tiny cell, is a mark of shame.
the american people, like the frog that is being boiled alive, have all the vitality sucked out of them by this musloid usurper...
since his unlawful arrival into the oval office, this trojan camel has been working nonstop to see to it that the u.s. and the west are destroyed (from within) all while empowering all that adhere to islam...
folks!
there are but a few more grains of sand in the hourglass.
it is long past due but there is still time to jump out of the boiling water...
and this means getting rid of this musloid and those around him for they sure lead us towards a cliff setting us for a fall.
Meant to include this fine example of stalwart muslim, street gang sheet type, pious, mafia style, enforcer, no doubt!
http://www.faithfreedom.org/videos-features/how-is-it-racist-to-oppose-a-fascist-ideology/
Yeah, they just need a godfather, 'course he's dead, like achmed. Hmmmm, if they love death more than life, why not quietly commit suicide like in Jim Jones's cult? They could play the Mash theme "Suicide is Painless", no doubt, eh?
Not to pass any ideas they already don't know(muslims have been committing suicide for very long now) and for a bit of reverie, here's one to close with, that they took to heart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICiFnQrHOrk have fun and enjoy
I feel your pain, too. The same. But it will play out, sooner or later, and maybe something revealing will come out of it. Let us work to make the change back to our Constitution, and the glory and sacrifice of our founders intent to Freedom, under G_d, and Christ, in 2012, and make some adjustments, to prevent any muslim opportunists ever again!
Another point of reinforcement, of my remarks preceding, can be noted here, regarding major battles and history. Don't miss this,
http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2007/10/in-this-war-against-radical-islam-there.html
Gerard, a recent, albeit somewhat reserved example was the recent comment from
The Danish Queen has spoken of the “challenge” of Islam.
"there is also something frightening about such a totality which is also a part of Islam. A certain response must be shown and sometimes one must run the risk of being labeled in a less flattering way. Because there are certain things with which one should not be tolerant." 2011
INDEED!
"“The mere release of these images of Osama bin Laden could be interpreted as a deliberate attempt by the United States to humiliate the late al Qaeda leader.”
Only a cowardly disgusting excuse for a man would express such mealymouthed sentiments. Throughout history victors ofter made a point of publicly humiliating their enemy's leader. The ancient Romans, for instance, would publicly starve or strangle them. With Obama its a high priority not to disturb his beloved Muslims, even those who hate us infidels.
Obama IMO should be forever despised for giving bin Laden a respectful Muslim burial at sea, especially after all the PC claims to the effect that he was no true Muslim.
I hope some day these photos of bin Laden will be shown with the specific intent of humiliating him - or at least have this effect. Any Muslim that is upset by it does not belong in the West and deserves to be regarded as a potential enemy. I know this applies to the many millions of Muslims all over the world who admire this mass murderer.
"Year after year, since 9/11, Osama Bin Laden was at the top of the list of most admired figures in the Islamic world, along with Saddam Hussein and Yasser Arafat, especially in mostly Sunni nations, but even in Shi’ite ones. That’s because he “did it” to America. Pew surveys of various countries in the Islamic world, for instance, found that huge majorities of the population admired Bin Laden most and agreed with his 9/11 attacks "
http://tinyurl.com/878ya6o
thanks for the link. saved in favorites.
from same blog:
"Eric Holder Refuses To Apologize To Family Of Slain Border Agent But Obama Administration DID Apologize To Muslim Family Of Terrorist Son Killed In Drone Attack"
so...shall we stay some more in the 'warm water' and wait to be cooked totally?
just askin'....
Were it up to me, I would bury all dead Islamic terrorists (the only good kind of Islamic terrorists) with a fine slab of bacon and make it publicly known each time that this was done. And I'm not engaging in hyperbole here. I mean it.
Why not just bury the bastards with an entire pig and a Q'uran in its mouth instead of an apple?
Why not just bury the bastards with an entire pig and a Q'uran in its mouth instead of an apple?
Well, after losing my cut of the Ohio Dept. of Corrections account, I could sure use the bidness. Count me in if you're looking for a quality supplier of The Other White Meat.
*** 33:21 ***
I would bury all dead Islamic terrorists (the only good kind of Islamic terrorists) with a fine slab of bacon and make it publicly known each time that this was done. And I'm not engaging in hyperbole here. I mean it.
A better use of the financial resources to do that would be to package all tactical nuclear and near-nuclear weapons with a gelatinous shroud of pork blood, the message being that microscopic pork material will infuse every stricken Moslem at the moment of death. And I mean that.
Has everybody seen *this*?
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/38963
Friday, 11 November 2011
'Navy Seals Give Their Version'
They took him out in the first 90 seconds. He was holding his third - youngest - wife in front of him as a human shield and they managed to drop him - stone cold dead - while barely scratching the girl.
The whole story is worth reading because at bottom it shows that on those occasions when the non-Muslim world simply opens up and FIGHTS the Mohammedans don't know what hit 'em.
We're smarter (satellites that can take a picture of Osama strolling around his compound, and work out his height from the photo of his shadow), and faster, and - when we put our minds to it - **sneakier**, and we have firepower like they can only dream of.
Osama Bin Laden, who struck viciously from ambush time and time again, was taken **completely by surprise**. He was ambushed, brilliantly; and he barely had time to figure out he'd been ambushed, before he was DEAD.
Once the fog clears from our collective heads - and Mr Spencer and many, many others known and unknown, great and small, all across the free world - are working damn hard to clear it, particle by particle - it will be Game Over for the Ummah.
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Pursuant to my posting above.
Obama and his cronies were worried that releasing Osama bin Laden's death photo would 'humiliate' him.
But the article I've just linked vouchsafes the information that the SEALs were wont to refer to Osama bin Laden and his second banana, Ayman al Zawahiri, as 'Bert and Ernie'.
Throws a whole new light on that 'evil Bert' internet meme that was floating around some years ago.
"...Peaceful Muslims"
i.e. "wishy-washy" Muslims
Last photo of Osama Bin Laden.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w1/Asdic_photos/BinLadenpicks.jpg
I, for one, would see it as a waste of good pork. However, I think a piece of unwashed lower intestine from the pig might be alright.
Frankly I would say humiliation is, "hidding behind your wife like a coward" is a pretty good job of humiliating all whom fight the jihad for Muhammad.
The Qu'ran itself is humiliating for anyone with screwpils enough to understand the difference between civil people, and barbaric people. Fact is to the civil world, Muslims do a very good job of humiliating themselves. Sharia Law is formost with regards to humiliation.
It's funny how an ideology so different from everyone elses blinds so many for so long.
You saw me and raised me, APF, as did David Dowse, and I can appreciate the sportsmanship behind such fine play.
I just hope he is not really the secret guest of Obama, waiting to climb out of the well and be the global jihad's Mahdi who will unite the Muslim world.
Let's bury 'em all on APF's farm.
Then all of his pigs that we eat at the barbecue will have been "fortified" with special, "organically-grown" ingredients in their food...
Raise you again, W.
The people in the Twin Towers were vaporized. No family member ever got to kiss their
dead relative before burial since Osama saw to it that there was virtually nothing to bury.
Only empty graves to comfort their friends and kin. That face should have been shown on every street corner for the New Yorkers to spit on. Small chance of that with the muslim lover, The Duke of Dhimmitude holding sway in Gracie Mansion. Allah forbid that our muslim president humiliate the monster that all Islam reveres. Never happen on Obama's watch. No indeed he made members of our military participate in a burial service. Must have broken Obamas heart not to be able to personally attend the service and add his heartfelt prayer to the Imam's. Oh well, Obama is always finding new ways to disdain the people he considers ungovernable. Not that he's ever attempted to do that. Lets start a pool. How soon after WWIII begins do you think it will take for him to set out on his next paid vacation?
It would be nice if he decided on hell.
David, you have lousy ideas.
Believing that Jesus declared all foods clean (Mk. 7) and having southern Chinese connections, I am VERY fond of pork--"Any Part of Piggie", as Noel Coward once sang. I fear your later suggestion would leave products from APF's farm with a very bitter and unpleasant taste.
Kepha wrote:
Considering how Muslims treated the corpses of "great leaders" who went down in coups (Iraq in the 1950's; the Shah's generals in 1979-80; Qaddafi recently), I think that the Obama administration's scruples were silly. Further, the jihadis in Somalia weren't shy about playing with dead US service personnel back in the Clinton years. Let's put photos of the dead Bin Laden online and be done with it.
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So true, Kepha—but you miss one salient point. The above examples were all of Muslim "leaders" declared "un-Islamic" or "hypocrites" or "apostates"—through the handy Muslim doctrine of Takfir-who then were abused, tortured, murdered, and mutilated by pious Muslims. This is all perfectly Islamic—in fact, what could possibly be *more Islamic* than murdering and mutilating in the way of Jihad?
But taking out bin Laden was an act by *filthy Kuffar* on a pious Muslim, and nothing gets the Ummah's panties in a twist like the Infidels "humiliating" the murderously faithful. Never mind that so many of them claim Al Qaida doesn't represent "real Islam"...
All that being said, I agree with so many of the posters above. Bury these vile Jihadists well after the 24-hour period, in Haram ground, with a nice length of pork links shoved up their Shalwar Kameez.
Given Muslims' reductive and literalist views of Islamic paradise, it might give some of these Jihadists pause...
Actually, since I don't like wasting food(I observe neither kosher nor halal dietary restrictions), per my replies to David Dowse and others, maybe the corpses of those people ought to go to medical research. That was the old tradition when a murderer was hanged.
Nahhhh. Adds "flavor"...lol!
Absolutely lovely photo!
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1 sandal left - not 2.
It is analogous to the utter shame shown by supposedly pious muslims when caught stealing sandals outside the mosque in Mohammedan Lands.
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Also, the suggestion of "filthy feet" being all that's left of bin Laden is utterly and "deliciously" apropos.
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Oh, and @Kepha?
Have you ever tasted Javelina? It is a form of pig, or boar common to the southwest USA and elsewhere. They have a slightly "gamey", or bitter taste, not unlike the bitterness I "taste" every day when confronting Islam and its adherents. Still - they are quite tasty when properly "marinated"...
I suppose the wildest-tasting pork I ever ate was a breed of scarcely improved pig raised by the aborigines in the mountains of Taiwan. It was scarcely improved--just a cut or two removed from the original wild boar, or sus scrofa. Can't say I've ever had javelina/peccary.