No comedy show, no matter how clever or winning, is going to eradicate the suspicion that many Americans have of Muslims. This is because Americans are concerned about Islam not because of the work of greasy Islamophobes, but because of Naser Abdo, the would-be second Fort Hood jihad mass murderer; and Khalid Aldawsari, the would-be jihad mass murderer in Lubbock, Texas; and Muhammad Hussain, the would-be jihad bomber in Baltimore; and Mohamed Mohamud, the would-be jihad bomber in Portland; and Faisal Shahzad, the would-be Times Square jihad mass-murderer; and Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, the Arkansas military recruiting station jihad murderer; and Naveed Haq, the jihad mass murderer at the Jewish Community Center in Seattle; and Mohammed Reza Taheri-Azar, the would-be jihad mass murderer in Chapel Hill, North Carolina; Ahmed Ferhani and Mohamed Mamdouh, who hatched a jihad plot to blow up a Manhattan synagogue; and Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the would-be Christmas airplane jihad bomber; and many others like them who have plotted and/or committed mass murder in the name of Islam and motivated by its texts and teachings -- all in the U.S. in the last couple of years.
The fact that there are other Muslims not fighting jihad is just great, but it doesn't mean that the jihad isn't happening. This comedy show simply doesn't address the problem of jihad terrorism and Islamic supremacism.
As David Horowitz and I show in our pamphlet Islamophobia: Thoughtcrime of the Totalitarian Future, the term "Islamophobia" is a politically manipulative coinage designed to intimidate critics of Islamic supremacism and jihad into silence.
Claire Berlinski explains how Islamic supremacists from the Muslim Brotherhood devised it for precisely that purpose:
Now here's a point you might deeply consider: The neologism "Islamophobia" did not simply emerge ex nihilo. It was invented, deliberately, by a Muslim Brotherhood front organization, the International Institute for Islamic Thought, which is based in Northern Virginia. If that name dimly rings a bell, it should: I've mentioned it before, and it's particularly important because it was co-founded by Anwar Ibrahim--the hero of Moderate Islam who is now trotting around the globe comparing his plight to that of Aung San Suu Kyi.Abdur-Rahman Muhammad, a former member of the IIIT who has renounced the group in disgust, was an eyewitness to the creation of the word. "This loathsome term," he writes,
is nothing more than a thought-terminating cliche conceived in the bowels of Muslim think tanks for the purpose of beating down critics.
And in fact, FBI statistics show that there is no "Islamophobia." In fact, many "anti-Muslim hate crimes" have been faked by Muslims, and Jews are eight times more likely than Muslims to be the victims of hate attacks.
The Muslim Brotherhood is dedicated in its own words to "eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within." One easy way to do that would be to guilt-trip non-Muslims into being ashamed of resisting jihad activity and Islamic supremacism, for fear of being accused of "Islamophobia." I doubt these comics are aware of this program, but they're useful tools for it.
"Muslim American comics’ tour and documentary," by Tara Bahrampour in the Washington Post, December 27 (thanks to James):
Beware, America. The Muslims are coming, and they look and act suspiciously like you.
Sheesh. No one says they aren't. This is just a straw man designed to demonize opponents of jihad.
Negin Farsad, an Iranian American stand-up comic from California, wears eye-catching mini dresses, curses liberally and has awkward sex talks with her mother (though hers sound more like alien encounters. Actual quote: “You had intergender flesh relations without the security of external safety product?”).
Then she has more to worry about from observant Muslims than she does from "Islamophobes."
Such conversations, painfully private in traditional Muslim societies, are public fodder for Farsad and three other Gen X and Gen Y Muslim comics with whom she traveled to the deep South this past summer.The tour, which later extended to Western states and included other Muslim comics, will form the backbone of “The Muslims Are Coming!,” a documentary film about Islamophobia in America that Farsad is working on with Palestinian Italian American comedian Dean Obeidallah.
This is going to be the usual victimhood-mongering and deflecting of attention from the real causes of suspicion of Muslims in the U.S. Obeidallah contacted me and asked me to be interviewed for the piece, and assured me he would give me a fair hearing. But then he went on Twitter and called Pamela Geller a "Muslim-hater" -- echoing the deceptive Islamic supremacist claim that fighting for free speech and equality of rights for all people is "hate." His true agenda thus revealed, I bowed out of the interview.
The documentary, which includes interviews with comics such as Jon Stewart and Louis Black and commentators including CNN’s Soledad O’Brien, explores freedom of religion and what it means to be a minority in America.
Note the implication: that minorities have it so tough in America. No mention will be made, no doubt, of the far more precarious position of non-Muslim minorities in Muslim societies.
Muslim American stand-up comedy is a relatively new phenomenon, the domain of second-generation immigrants who are American enough to satirize the Muslim American experience, said Obeidallah, who lives in New York City.“We’re confident enough to do this,” he said. “An immigrant would be less confident to use comedy to try to challenge perceptions of who we are. We’re confident enough in being Americans and knowing what that means, that we can push against those who are exhibiting behavior which is less than consistent with the values of this nation.”
Note that in Obeidallah's world, the people who are "exhibiting behavior which is less than consistent with the values of this nation" are those fighting for freedom and Constitutional rights, not Brotherhood-related groups dedicated to bringing to the U.S. elements of a legal system that denies freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and equality of rights for women and non-Muslims.
A major factor driving Muslim Americans toward comedy was the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. “There were no Middle Eastern comics before 9/11 that anyone knew about,” Obeidallah said. “The phenomenon really grew in the last 10 years, because of the [anti-Muslim] backlash.
There was no backlash, of course. Innocent Muslims are not being victimized in the U.S. Muslims live better here than in many Muslim countries. Obeidallah -- clueless or complicit? You be the judge.
I think a lot of people in our community started doing it as a form of political activism.” As they started appearing on national television, he said, “it spurred other Middle Eastern comedians to get involved.” Now, he said, there are about 10 full-time professinals and a growing number of aspiring professionals.Going to the South, where anti-mosque demonstrations and anti-immigrant sentiment has made some Muslims feel unwelcome, the comedians hoped to break through some of the cultural walls that have arisen since Sept. 11.
The point was to see “how would people in the heartland take to us?” Obeidallah said. “Would we encounter angry people going, ‘Get out of here, you Muslims,’ or would they understand?”
Traveling through Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi and Tennessee, they gave free performances in cafes, community centers and theaters. They set up tables in public places, with scripture-related guessing games and the opportunity for people to “Ask a Muslim” anything they wanted.
“I could kind of like Muslims, but why do you guys like terrorism so much?” some asked. “What do you think of 9/11?” was another common question.
How horrible! They got asked uncomfortable questions! Oh, the "Islamophobia"!
On the whole, the public response was encouraging. While a few people drove by and yelled, “Go back to your country!” the one-on-one encounters tended to be positive.
Oh, the horror! They encountered some rude jerks! Almost as bad as being Christians in Nigeria, eh?
“Most people are more open-minded and not that concerned about Muslims,” Obeidallah said. “It’s really the fringe that’s driving that narrative.”Maysoon Zayid, one of the comics on the tour, said people were surprised to see that “I’m such a Jersey girl, I’m so accessible. . . . I think they are really surprised that I wasn’t this oppressed woman trying to convert people.”
The comedians acknowledged that they were unlikely to win the hearts of the most fervent anti-Muslim types.
“A show called ‘The Muslims Are Coming’ — people self-select to come see it,” Farsad said. “We’re never going to be able to touch the extreme haters. . . . We’re trying to affect the people in the middle, people with questions, the ‘persuadables.’ ”
Do Negin Farsad and Dean Obeidallah really want to eradicate "Islamophobia"? As long as Islamic jihad and supremacism continue, a comedy tour will never do the trick. But here is an easy way. They can call on Muslims in the U.S. to do these things:
1. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
2. Renounce definitively, sincerely, honestly, and in deeds, not just in comforting words, not just "terrorism," but any intention to replace the U.S. Constitution (or the constitutions of any non-Muslim state) with Sharia even by peaceful means. In line with this, clarify what is meant by their condemnations of the killing of innocent people by stating unequivocally that American and Israeli civilians are innocent people, teaching accordingly in mosques and Islamic schools, and behaving in accord with these new teachings.
3. Teach, again sincerely and honestly, in transparent and verifiable ways in mosques and Islamic schools, the imperative of Muslims coexisting peacefully as equals with non-Muslims on an indefinite basis, and act accordingly.
4. Begin comprehensive international programs in mosques all over the world to teach sincerely against the ideas of violent jihad and Islamic supremacism.
5. Actively and honestly work with Western law enforcement officials to identify and apprehend jihadists within Western Muslim communities.
If Muslims do those five things, voila! "Islamophobia" will evanesce!
I think that word was invented by CAIR. But I am not so sure.
It was created by the IIIT (International Institute of Islamic Thought) which itself was founded by Taha Jabir al-Alwani.
Taha Jabi al-Alwani is a Muslim "academic" who created many American Islamic organizations and even new Islamic concepts that have been adopted by the establishment Universities as legitimate Islamic thought. (e.g., Fiqh al-Aqalliyyat)
Muslim comics and documentary pushing Muslim Brotherhood-invented concept of "Islamophobia"
No comedy show, no matter how clever or winning, is going to eradicate the suspicion that many Americans have of Muslims. This is because Americans are concerned about Islam not because of the work of greasy Islamophobes, but because of Naser Abdo, the would-be second Fort Hood jihad mass murderer; and Khalid Aldawsari, the would-be jihad mass murderer...
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Pretty much sums it up...
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The fact that there are other Muslims not fighting jihad is just great, but it doesn't mean that the jihad isn't happening.
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This is what so many people don't seem to grasp. This would be like German-Americans responding in a similar manner in 1938—replying to concerns about the rise of Nazi Germany by saying, "Well, the Schmidts on the next block are nice people! Don't you agree? What about the Meullers, who run that nice Hofbrau over on Main Street? What are you, some sort of 'Teutonophobe'?"
We would—*I hope*—have considered this entirely unnecessary, and completely beside the point, as well.
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This comedy show simply doesn't address the problem of jihad terrorism and Islamic supremacism.
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No, it *doesn't*—it just serves to deflect attention...
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"Muslim American comics’ tour and documentary," by Tara Bahrampour in the Washington Post, December 27 (thanks to James):
Beware, America. The Muslims are coming, and they look and act suspiciously like you.
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*What crap*. See—violent Jihadists aren't the problem—narrow-minded Americans are...
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Negin Farsad, an Iranian American stand-up comic from California, wears eye-catching mini dresses, curses liberally and has awkward sex talks with her mother (though hers sound more like alien encounters. Actual quote: “You had intergender flesh relations without the security of external safety product?”).
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Her work is crap—what Muslim talks like that? It's just a way for her to get cheap laughs. Most of her jokes, not surprisingly, are at the expense of "insensitive" Infidels...
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“We’re confident enough to do this,” he said. “An immigrant would be less confident to use comedy to try to challenge perceptions of who we are. We’re confident enough in being Americans and knowing what that means, that we can push against those who are exhibiting behavior which is less than consistent with the values of this nation.”
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Yep—we need Muslims to lecture us about the "values of this nation". Sounds like a laugh riot...sarc/off
Hey Jihad Watchers!
When the show is on, let's buy all the tickets and not attend the show. That would send a strong message all right!
Nagan Farsad:
Since you are from Iran, about you help me become a stand-up comedian in Iran and I will focus my sense of humor on lies like Christianophobia. Ooops! it would not work because there is nothing to laugh about something that is true i.e. persecuted Christians.
Nagan Farsad you are pushing the art of deception to a higher level. Shame on you.
Islamophobia |isˌläməˈfōbēə; iz-| noun - Phony linguistic construct designed to obfuscate the difference between Islamic speech and Islamic action.
See also - Fooled you!
Isabella wrote:
When the show is on, let's buy all the tickets and not attend the show. That would send a strong message all right!
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Isabella, it would still line the pockets of these Taqiyya-spouting Muslims, though...
No peace on earth until RELIGION of PEACE is totally exposed and eliminated FOR GOOD. ISLAM has no chance against truth. The reason it lasted this long because no one knew anything about it except the few users of their own people in Muslim countries. Now the truth is coming out, thanks to JW and other truth seekers. Because of that Muslims are afraid and don't know what to do except acting REAL CRAZY. Come on now. How can you have an ALLAH who will take good care of you when you blow yourself along with some infidels whoever they may be and whereever they may be? This insanity can not and will not last but will do a lot of damage, I am afraid, before disappearing from the face of the earth. Let's all spread the truth about this evil to everyone, everywhere, everyday.
Islamophobia - Projection as a pretext for retaliation.
A muslim "comic" is a oxymoron because "there's no laughter in Islam" to quote from the evil Khomenni, Satan's late Iraniam representative on earth.
Remember when a few US Postal Service employees lost their marbles and shot a slew of innocent people? Soon after, if anybody else did the same, it was referred to as "going postal." I propose that when anybody does that now that we call it "Going Islamic." If a Hindu restauranteur kills his staff he's "gone Islamic." An atheist mows down innocents with his car? Well, he just "went Islamic." A Zoroastrian unloads a gun on a public bus? He's "going Islamic." They want to use a crazy, made-up word (Islamophobes) to describe those of us who are against Sharia, so we need to beat them at their own game. Start calling ANY type of massacre "going Islamic," and get it into the public sphere. That ought to really get CAIR's panties in a wad!
Islamonausea would be more appropriate.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/04/are-you-islamophobe.html
Dogaphobia.
Let all the OIC member countries run the Lassie series so they can overcome their fear and hate of dogs. Would they learn to love dogs?
This comedy tour is part of the broader agenda of Islam, to make Americans think that Muslims are like any other American. But Muslims are not like any other American, are they? Actually they are all "soldiers of Allah" or individual tiny Mobots injected into the body-politic of the infidel nation to undermine the host by doing their bit for bringing down the host nation and ensuring the triumph of Islam- be it by engaging in jihad, giving zakat for the mujahiddin, or (in this instance) acting as the propaganda arm of Islam
Now the thing is- you dont have to be a mass murdering jihadi to be a Muslim soldier. You can also serve Islam's cause by disarming the ordinary person in the infidel camp to the dangers of Islam.
These crafty, so called comics are out to give the impression that Muslims have no nefarious agenda, no special allegiance to Islam, that Islam and its adherents are just like any other religion and their followers.
Second, they intend to sufficiently brainwash the gullible infidel audience into believing that anyone who opposes Sharia and Islamic Jihad is a hateful Islamophobe-- why else would anyone dislike the charming and funny Muslims like themselves, who are apparently spread out all over America?
Whether these comics are doing the bidding for the Islamic cause fully aware of the nature of Islam or completely innocently, they are still useful idiots for Islam because once the Sharia states come into being, individuals like this one Negin Farsad would never be able to "wear eye-catching mini dresses", or "curses liberally and have awkward sex talks with her mother." She would put into the black body bag known as the burkha, or quite possibly, stoned to death for her indiscretions.
See great art by Bosch at this post. Ron_Paul, it is a verb.
What can I say?The very fact that the term is taken seriously shows the intellectual bankrupcy of Western culture today,an utter lack of rational thinking and those totalitarian Muslims are taking advantage of it.
For those who are interested in Joel Richardson's ideas check this out:
"The 2nd Joel Richardson Interview,and he gives More Reasons why the Antichrist will be the Muslim Mahdi"
http://www.antisharia.com/2011/12/29/the-2nd-joel-richardson-interviewand-he-gives-more-reasons-why-the-antichrist-will-be-the-muslim-mahdi/
ALSO
A grim reality,but when one is used to it it seems normal.
Check out:
"BBC Video about Temporary Marriage in Iran:Habib(65) marries Leila(17)for 6 Months"
http://www.antisharia.com/2011/10/22/bbc-video-about-temporary-marriage-in-iranhabib65-marries-leila17for-6-months/
"Oriana Fallaci,Italian Feminist,Atheist,Probably the World’s Most Famous Journalist,was Anti-Islam"
http://www.antisharia.com/2011/11/06/oriana-fallaciitalian-feministatheistprobably-the-worlds-most-famous-journalistwas-anti-islam/
I think the first step these so-called "normal, everyday muslims" must do is acknowledge that the problem is in the authoriative teachings of the islamic socio-political ideology.
Until they do that, they are part of the problem and, whether wilfully or by silence, they are complicit.
Negin Farsad, is that her name? Well, that's what it says on her pilot's license.
More clowns than comedians!
Actually, I think a few jihadwatchers here and there may like to go along to the show.
But come prepared.
If they have one of their little 'Ask a Muslim' sessions - ask them.
1/ Ask an innocent question about Aisha - "I heard she was six years old when the marriage contract was formalised and that she was just nine when he bedded her. It says it right here in the Bukhari Hadith (pull out printout with chapter and verse) and in the Sira of Ibn Ishaq...(exhibit printout) and then in the Quran there's this verse that actually takes it for granted that a girl can be wedded, bedded and divorced - all before getting her first period. And... you're from Iran. I hear that about the first thing the Ayatollah Khomeini did was lower the marriage age so men could marry little girls of nine; because Mohammed bedded Aisha at nine. I hear he said that marriage and sex with a ten year old girl was a divine blessing, and that girls should get their first period in their husband's house. Do you agree that it's Okay for a Muslim man today to marry and have sex with a girl of nine, just like Mohammed did back then?"
2/ Produce the Bukhari Hadith that authorises the killing of apostates. Say to them: you're from Iran, eh? Then do you agree that Pastor Yusuf Nadarkhani, who was brought up in a Muslim family but became a Christian, ought to be executed for leaving Islam?
Then ask them point blank: "If someone you know in the Muslim community - a friend or a family member - told you that they had been going to church, and told you they had been baptised, and that they were a Christian; or if they told you that they no longer believed in any god, that they were an atheist; or if they told you they had converted to Judaism; or that they were now a Buddhist; **what would you do**?" (Watch their body language very closely at this point). (You could always hit them with a list of names of prominent apostates - Magdi Cristiano Allam, Wafa Sultan, Nonie Darwish, Ibn Warraq, Lina Joy (from malaysia), Mohammed Hegazy (Egypt), Mark Gabriel, Daniel Shayesteh (who is Iranian), and watch their reactions).
3/ Ask them sweetly whether they approve of the blasphemy law in Pakistan; and bring out the passages from the Sira and Hadith that describe the assassinations of people who had criticised Mohammed/ Islam/ Muslims - e.g. Asma bint Marwan, and Abu Afak. Ask them to sign a petition for the release from prison of Aasia Bibi. Tell them that you think it is absolutely appalling that Theo Van Gogh was murdered by a Muslim as punishment for making a film that criticised Islam's sanctioning of the abuse of women, and that you find it appalling that Kurt Westergaard was attacked inside his own home by a Somali Muslim with an axe - and bring out a copy of the Mohammed turban-bomb cartoon and put it right under their noses and ask them point blank: Would *you* kill a man for drawing this picture?? If you didn't do it yourself, would you approve of another Muslim killing the man who drew this picture? Would you *help* another Muslim to kill Mr Westergaard?
Finally, 4/ ask them this: "If your sister, or daughter, or female cousin, or auntie, or other female relative, or another woman within the Muslim community, went off and married a Jew, or a Christian, or an atheist, or a Hindu, or a Sikh: **what would you do?**" And ask sweetly: "Do you support the sharia rule that says that a Muslim woman is only allowed to marry another Muslim?"
Optional questions: ask about wife-beating (show them Quran 4: 34), polygyny (show the relevant Quran verse), and - since a couple of them are Iranian - 'temporary "marriage"', aka prostitution by any other name. Or ask why it is that sharia doesn't respect non-Muslim marriage vows, since it's permissible for a Muslim man to kidnap and rape a married non-Muslim woman without being regarded as committing adultery.
A well-prepared team of three or four jihadwatchers, supplied with printouts of the relevant texts plus a few corresponding contemporary examples of vile Mohammedan practice at their fingertips, could have a lot of fun...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/08/fitzgerald-tips-for-visiting-a-mosque.html
'Fitzgerald: Tips for visiting a mosque'
'Before visiting a mosque, please google the phrase "taqiyya and tu-quoque" and arm yourself with knowledge.
'Be prepared to ask -- sweetly, in an Infidel-Wants-to-Know Mode -- about Muhammad's marriage to Aisha when she was nine,
"about the assassinations of Asma bint Marwan and others,
"about the massacre of the inoffensive Jewish farmers of the Khaybar oasis,
"about the decapitation of 600-900 helpless prisoners of the Banu Qurayza, and about so much more. Be sure to mention the Hadith."...
More help for the homework:
'Ten questions for the Muslim next door'
http://revuse.wetpaint.com/page/Ten+Questions+for+the+Muslim+Next+Door?t=anon
and
http://revuse.wetpaint.com/page/Discover%20Islam?t=anon
(this one neatly deconstructs the 'Discover Islam' series of glossy, infinitely-deceitful da'wa posters).
And a hilarious account of what can happen when Muslim spin-doctors encounter unfoolable and well-informed Infidels:
http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm?frm=2009&sec_id=2009
'The Church Cat Is a Practical Cat'.
Go along. Be impeccably turned out. Try very hard to be sweet, and wide-eyed, and cool and calm and collected (all the things I, for example, would find rather difficult); and drop bomb after bomb after bomb...
further suggestion.
Find out, well ahead of time - maybe a month - where one of these duplicitous pull-the-wool-over-the-kuffar's-eyes aren't-all-Muslims-so-cute-n'-nice gigs is going to be held.
Get together a team. I suggest a Jew wearing kippa and star of David; Christians wearing crosses (ideally, the Christian contingent would include a non-dhimmi Copt, I am sure Mr Raymond Ibrahim might be able to put you in touch with a few), a Hindu complete with bindi and red thread (a HIndu who knows about the Muslim mass-murders in India, not just at Partition but the mountains of dead piled up during the Muslim invasions and occupation of India, and can cite the relevant historical sources), and if you really want to rattle them, a Sikh in his turban and steel bangle. Again, Pam Geller and Mr Spencer via their organisation, or Brigitte Gabriel and ACT for America, might be able to help assemble 'Assorted Infidel' teams of this kind.
Spend a few evenings together discussing the sorts of questions you will ask.
And then go along to the show, and gently but inexorably upset the applecarts.
If these comics feel uncomfortable as Muslims living in America it's understandable that they want to do something about it, if only for their own sake. What are they finding? Their audiences are really nice and not Islamophobic at all. http://youtu.be/yGHXIXMVhLI
Seems like they are all secular Muslims and in denial about the aims of their own religion. IOW they aren't saying Islam isn't oppressive or dangerous, just that not all Muslims are oppressive and dangerous or, more importantly, even that interested in Islam. I see the occasional hateful comment condemning all Muslims on these blogs, but probably most people take that for granted you can't generalize about all Muslims. It's what is taking place in mosques and in the political sphere with organizations like CAIR and Muslim Brotherhood front groups that concerns us all.
I wonder if these comics are going to be laughing as women in the Middle East lose civil rights and sharia is imposed? Time will tell.
Having watched the video on YouTube to advertise their free tour - zero cost for admittance - it's clear the old decoy of basing all the discussion around 'Muslims' rather than 'Islam' is the strategy being used to fool the unwary.
Basically, they are saying: 'Look, we Muslims are nice people. We're really no different than the people in the audience.'
But none of this tackles the problem of Islam, the ideology.
. .''Affect [. ] the persuadables''. .says it all fu' . me.
. .has an unkinda like Dalek-tone about it, dunnit ?
Whoever doesn't fear Islam doesn't understand the situation.
Am I an islamophobe? No, I am an islamoloathe. Voila,the situation has changed from defense to offense.
Why you might ask? Because I hate orhganized evil. Voila.
Anything less smacks of political correctness.
Great piece by Bosch -- and re: the linked article, Ron Paul is a verb: taqiyya.
He is too conflicted to be an ostrich. Those who delve no further into Ron Paul, the whole enchilada, are practicing ostrichism.
Individual liberty (the alleged foundation of his campaign) is irreconcilable with totalitarianism, what he in actual practice promotes by allowing the "Islamic Nation" to annex the world unchecked.
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"What constitutes the freedom, the soul of an individual life, is its uniqueness. The reflection of the universe in someone’s consciousness is the foundation of his or her power, but life only becomes happiness, is only endowed with freedom and meaning, when someone exists as a whole world that has never been repeated in all eternity. Only then can they experience the joy of freedom and kindness, finding in others what they have already found in themselves."
http://www.tabletmag.com/arts-and-culture/books/84327/no-exit-2/3/
>>>There ARE no individuals in Islam
Right on Jolene.
Be prepared to join the infant movement of NCOism (new conscientious objectorism). We conscientiously object to evil and the war on common sense and thereby hope to defeat Islam and the Left.
From a founder and member in good standing of the Corps of NCOs (new conscientious objectors).
Thanks for the invite. I think I would be best suited for an active combat division. Have you all formed one of those yet? Let me know -- I'll be there with bells & tzitzis on. POW!
The only good Muslim is an apostate, an individual who has not surrendered his mind to a sub-primitive, barbaric creed, and who has rejected Islam in all its aspects, practices and purposes. There are no salvageable, benign facets to Islam. An intellectually honest person would grasp this. This would entail a rejection of mysticism and the core, fundamentally anti-rational premises of Islam. In 1964, novelist-philosopher Ayn Rand had this to say about religion:
“Faith, as such, is extremely detrimental to human life: it is the negation of reason. But you must remember that religion is an early form of philosophy, that the first attempts to explain the universe, to give a coherent frame of reference to man’s life and a code of moral values, were made by religion, before men graduated or developed enough to have philosophy. And, as philosophies, some religions have very valuable moral points. They may have a good influence or proper principles to inculcate, but in a very contradictory context and, on a very—how should I say it?—dangerous or malevolent base: on the ground of faith.”
I call Islam “sub-primitive” because it isn’t even the shadow or precursor of a philosophy. There are no rudiments in it on which a “church” or “philosophy” could be founded, as Christian creeds had. For centuries, Catholicism dominated European politics, until the very few premises in the doctrine could be used as wedges to ultimately – and after much destruction and bloodshed – to separate church from state. No such wedges or premises exist in Islam. Islam is totalitarian from top to bottom. No distinction is made between the creed and politics. Islam is the state. And if one begins by discarding its more belligerent and irrational aspects, one may as well discard the whole eclectic, arbitrary, cruel, and bizarre system. Perform that intellectual surgery on it, and nothing would be left of Islam that could be called “Islam.” Numerous apostates have acknowledged this.
So, a few Muslim-inspired jokes isn’t going to persuade anyone with half a brain that Islam is okay and Muslims are just “like you and me.” Seinfelds, they’re not. And I’m afraid Robert’s five points aren’t very practical, either. One may as well tell a Nazi, “This is what you must do to gain respect from others. Renounce violence, condemn anyone who commits violent acts in the name of Nazism, retract all those horrid things said about Jews, etc.” Well, Hitler claimed in 1939 that he had no more “territorial ambitions,” and we all know what that lead to – his invasion of Czechoslovakia. Violence was as integral to Nazism as it is to Islam. Muslims who followed those five points could be charged by others with betraying Islam. That would lead to some interesting and retaliatory fatwas on them by their coreligionists, the ones who are still “struggling.” Such as that creature who murdered his whole family last Christmas morning.
No, the best course of action for conflicted Muslims is a total abandonment and rejection of Islam as a guide to moral living on earth. To paraphrase Rand again, there’s no compromise possible between food and poison, and Islam is little more than a bottle of arsenic labeled maple syrup.
By definition, Muslims can't do those five things. Muslims are not compatible with Western culture. Neither were Nazis.
Hello Jolene:
Pacifism is NOT part of NCOism.
It's good to have another gun around when the showdown comes, and that day will come.
Ah -- very good. Talking and reasoning is impossible with regard to Islam. We are all just walking about deceiving and being deceived if we think otherwise.
You know what 'Supreme Leader' thinks of comedy...Have you ever heard him telling jokes, or having fun? Is the Quran a joke book? Well, I think so, but Supreme Leader does not...
All Mahoundian stand up comics, are going to have to explain themselves to Allah...If they can make him laugh they get a pass...So they darned well better be funny...
I don't think most kuffar know what an Islamophobe is and would not care if they did...it is a Brotherhood creation that only has a special meaning to Mahoundians...When I accuse kuffar of being an Islamophobe the average reaction is 'huh'...
As far as those 5 points, Robert has presented them a number of times, and there is never any flash mobs of Mahoundians trying to sign up...You would think they are not interested...
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The point was to see “how would people in the heartland take to us?” Obeidallah said. “Would we encounter angry people going, ‘Get out of here, you Muslims,’ or would they understand?”
Mohammed did a child, I'm guessing before she was even menstrating. Nuf!
Time to re-post a couple of classics.
Hugh Fitzgerald's 'Islamophobia? Really?'
Fitzgerald: Islamophobia? Really?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/12/fitzgerald-islamophobia-really.html
and from a friend of the redoubtable Phyllis Chesler, one Lorna Saltzman, a hilarious pop quiz that can be printed out by all the islamophobes here present, and used at New Year's Eve parties (just print out, insert the little boxes to tick for 'Yes' or 'No' and the box at the bottom to tot up your score, then give them to your guests to fill out, and compare your scores at the end).
http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/08/26/are-you-an-islamophobe/
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August 26th, 2009 10:17 am
Are You An Islamophobe? - Take This Test To Be Sure.