Raymond Ibrahim: The Specter of Jizya Returns to Egypt

In Egypt, calls for jizya—the tribute doctrinally demanded and historically collected from conquered infidels—are increasing day by day, by those who wish to be true to the words of Koran 9:29:

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor forbid that which Allah and his Messenger have forbidden, nor follow the religion of truth [Islam], from the People of the Book [Christians and Jews], until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves utterly subdued.

Accordingly, days ago, Ahmed Imran—a candidate of Egypt’s Salafi party, the “Party of Light,” which won some 20% of votes in recent elections—called for the return of jizya (which was abolished under colonial pressure in the mid 19th century). Sounding like a Western apologist of Islamic supremacism, he distorted history and spoke of jizya in glowing terms:

I say to those who fear that we might govern, that it was the Muslims who liberated the Copts from Roman slaughter and that Copts are obligated to pay the jizya, and it will only be half a dinar, taken from the rich and given to their poor.

Earlier, Abu Shadi, another Salafi leader—though not one running for office, and so extra candid—announced that Egypt’s Christians must either convert to Islam, pay jizya and assume inferior status, or die.

Nor is the return of jizya limited to Salafi discourse. Running for Egypt’s presidency, Hazem Abu Ismael, a former Muslim Brotherhood member still affiliated with the group, said he would impose jizya on the Copts.

And Mohamed Saad Katatni—the secretary general of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party which won 40% of the votes—said that Copts would not pay jizya now, implying that the idea of collecting tribute from subdued “dhimmi” Copts is very much alive among the Brotherhood, only dormant till a more opportune moment (naturally, the Brotherhood later denied he said such a thing).

Moreover, increasing numbers of attacks on Christians in Egypt revolve around extorting jizya. For instance, last summer a priest was almost

killed at the hands of the Salafis because of his refusal to pay them jizya money…. [T]he church’s priest had declared that the Copts would not pay jizya, in any way, shape, or form. This is what caused the Salafis to want to banish him from the region, so they could collect jizya from the Copts.

Here, then, is another rule of thumb: Wherever and whenever there are calls to return to “true Islam”—whether by 9th century Ibn Hanbal, 14th century Ibn Taymiyya, 18th century Abdul Wahhab, or 21st century Salafis or the countless no-names in between—the non-Muslims among them will always be first to suffer; first, in the words of Koran 9:29, to “pay the jizya [tribute] with willing submission, and feel themselves utterly subdued.”

Raymond Ibrahim is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center and an Associate Fellow at the Middle East Forum
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Islam is shamelessly parasitical.

Islam sacralises a mafia-style system of ruthless extortion. A 'protection' racket.

It's a mafia - an organised crime 'family' - posing as a 'religion'.

If only all the Copts could pack up tomorrow and leave Egypt for friendlier countries.

And then these Mohammedan thugs and thieves would have nobody to leech off, except each other.

With the country in near economic and financial collapse the gov't has to do something for money.

'Islam is shamelessly parasitical.'

All the most repulsive forms of parasitism found in nature are mirrored in Islamic practices and Muslim lifestyles: http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/islamic-parasites.html

Again the problem is not the amount of money that the Jizya is, but what ensues after paying it. The Jizya is paid to initiate a "Dhimmah" or "contract", this contract was put into finer details by the Pact of UmarL

"The Leader of the faithful `Umar bin Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, demanded his well-known conditions be met by the Christians, these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation and disgrace. The scholars of Hadith narrated from `Abdur-Rahman bin Ghanm Al-Ash`ari that he said, "I recorded for `Umar bin Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians of Ash-Sham: `In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. This is a document to the servant of Allah `Umar, the Leader of the faithful, from the Christians of such and such city. When you (Muslims) came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration nor use any of them for the purpose of enmity against Muslims. We will not prevent any Muslim from resting in our churches whether they come by day or night, and we will open the doors ﴿of our houses of worship﴾ for the wayfarer and passerby. Those Muslims who come as guests, will enjoy boarding and food for three days. We will not allow a spy against Muslims into our churches and homes or hide deceit ﴿or betrayal﴾ against Muslims. We will not teach our children the Qur'an, publicize practices of Shirk, invite anyone to Shirk or prevent any of our fellows from embracing Islam, if they choose to do so. We will respect Muslims, move from the places we sit in if they choose to sit in them. We will not imitate their clothing, caps, turbans, sandals, hairstyles, speech, nicknames and title names, or ride on saddles, hang swords on the shoulders, collect weapons of any kind or carry these weapons. We will not encrypt our stamps in Arabic, or sell liquor. We will have the front of our hair cut, wear our customary clothes wherever we are, wear belts around our waist, refrain from erecting crosses on the outside of our churches and demonstrating them and our books in public in Muslim fairways and markets. We will not sound the bells in our churches, except discretely, or raise our voices while reciting our holy books inside our churches in the presence of Muslims, nor raise our voices with prayer at our funerals, or light torches in funeral processions in the fairways of Muslims, or their markets. We will not bury our dead next to Muslim dead, or buy servants who were captured by Muslims. We will be guides for Muslims and refrain from breaching their privacy in their homes.' When I gave this document to `Umar, he added to it, `We will not beat any Muslim. These are the conditions that we set against ourselves and followers of our religion in return for safety and protection. If we break any of these promises that we set for your benefit against ourselves, then our Dhimmah (promise of protection) is broken and you are allowed to do with us what you are allowed of people of defiance and rebellion.'''

http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2566&Itemid=64

I say to those who fear that we might govern, that it was the Muslims who liberated the Copts from Roman slaughter and that Copts are obligated to pay the jizya, and it will only be half a dinar, taken from the rich and given to their poor.
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*What absolute crap*. Roman Emperor Constantine himself converted to Christianity in AD 312.

Egypt was part of the Byzantine Empire when Muslim hordes overran the Nile in 642. Christians there had not suffered official persecution for *over three centuries*.

That was soon to change under the heel of Islam, though.

As early as AD 640, the Muslims undertook to impose Jizya on the Copts. This, from Wikipedia:

On the 22nd of December, Cyrus of Alexandria entered into a treaty with the Muslims. By the treaty, Muslim sovereignty over the whole of Egypt, and effectively on Thebaid, was recognized, and the Egyptians agreed to pay Jizya at the rate of 2 diners per male adult. The treaty was subject to the approval of the emperor Heraclius, but Cyrus of Alexandria stipulated that even if the emperor repudiated the treaty, he and the Copts of whom he was the High Priest would honor the terms of the treaty, recognize the supremacy of the Muslims and pay them Jizya.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Egypt

Why was Cyrus of Alexandria so "eager" to pay Jizya? My guess is that it was simple fear of what the Muslims would do to his flock if he refused...

THE ESSENCE OF ISLAM: Islam is the world's largest NGO (non-godly organization) posing as the most enlightened religion cum civilization created and followed by the objectively inferior* in order to feel subjectively superior. Because of this existential contradiction and its fallout, Islam seeks to forcibly create a worldwide caliphate to dhimmify and parasitize the non-muslim world before Islam itself implodes. All the types of Jihad are born of this essence.
* Example
objectively: PATHETICSTAN, Land Of The Manure
subjectively: PAKISTAN, Land Of The Pure

Sic semper tyrannus

Having lost billions from tourism, the Quranic-centered mentality is trying to cover the gap with Jizya. Two birds, one stone; doctrinally correct and pays a few of the bills.

Anyway, it won't be enough, so the 'Zionists' will be blamed for the economic chaos that is currently engulfing Egypt!

Hi all:

Well here's another suggestion: arm the Copts the teeth. That way instead of gold, the would be plunderers get lead and lots of it.

Even if the Copts and other Christians were to leave, the Moslems would ensure that the former pay the jizya but holding hostages to ensure compliance.

Personally, I think we should carry out Hugh Fitzgerald's recommendation: make the Arab world play sky high prices for everything. It's already happening to food where the Asians can outbuy the Arabs. How long before the sparce parts and other stuff becomes unaffordable?

Since most Muslims countries have too many people to feed, that is not possible with their current system of corrupt and incompetent "leaders", particularly those who are violent Jew-haters, the only way to get economy going to rob the remaining Copts, who still stay in Egypt. There are no more Jews left in Egypt and thus, Copts are the next victim of these ignorant delusional people sick with superiority COMPLEX since they demonstrated long time ago that they are in every way inferior to the people of the Book! Since their delusional supremacist ideology makes all those successful people into dhimmis, this is the way for those losers to continue feeling good about themselves, rather then working on their futures.

Throughout the history, the way those violent Mohammedans made their living was by robbing others rather then working!

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