Rep. Peter King to hold fourth round of hearings on Islamic "radicalization"

Claims of "Islamophobia," incitement, and the danger of "backlash" are undoubtedly forthcoming.

Muslim advocacy groups want a double standard in favor of Islam. If there had been a mass-casualty attack by a "Pastafarian" soldier quoting Pastafarian scripture to kill for the Flying Spaghetti Monster, there would be hearings and inquiries. If there had been more than one Pastafarians who killed or tried to kill fellow soldiers, there would be all the more urgent hearings and inquiries, no questions asked. Detecting a pattern and calling attention to it would not be equated with "hate" (almost never "hatred," for whatever reason, but "hate").

But the apparent mentality toward another jihadist attack within the military seems almost like waiting for a tornado: it can happen, though no one can say when or where, or why; just duck and cover when it does, and hope for the best. "Rep. King’s fourth Muslim-American radicalization hearing to focus on military," by Jordy Yager for The Hill, December 4:

The chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee is hoping his panel’s hearing on the radicalization of Muslim-Americans within the U.S. military will reveal how the armed services can better protect itself against homegrown attacks.
Rep. Pete King (R-N.Y.) is holding a joint hearing on Wednesday, along with Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee Chairman Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), as the next stage in his series of efforts to address the radicalization of American Muslims.
Pointing to the 2009 shootings at the Fort Hood military base in Texas and at a military recruiting station in Arkansas, which killed a total of 14 people and wounded more than two dozen, King said the issue of radicalization within military communities is one that is grossly under the radar.

There is also Naser Abdo, the erstwhile "moderate" poster child.

“There is an attempt by Islamists to join the military and infiltrate the military, and it’s more of a threat than the average American is aware of right now,” said King in an interview with The Hill on Monday.
Lieberman said his committee has held 13 hearings over the past five years on the issue of violent Islamic extremism and, based on what he has learned, the military is an increasingly large target for attacks.
“Clearly, the threat of homegrown terrorism has increased dramatically, and clearly, members of the armed services are a high-value target,” Lieberman said in a statement.
The issue was brought to the front burner for King after it was raised by Paul Stockton, the assistant secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense and Americas' Security Affairs. King said he feels the Obama administration is just as concerned with the issue as he is, and hopes to develop a working partnership to address some of the inadequacies that will come up at Wednesday’s hearing.
“I think more can be done,” he said. “But this is not going to be any attempt to bash the administration, necessarily. From my perspective it’s going to be a productive hearing and it’s not going to turn into a partisan fight.”
King gave several examples of issues that need more attention, such as whether the military needs to provide more security for recruiting centers and bases in the U.S. or whether local and state law enforcement should play a larger role in coordinating security with the military.
He said he also hopes to address the minutiae of radicalization on military bases. He used an example of how he has heard of at least one instance in which a copy of the radical Islamic magazine Inspire — which has been used as a recruiting tool for terrorist groups — was found in a barracks and allowed to remain. But Confederate flags are rightfully banned, he said.
“I’m using that as an example about whether or not we need to be more aggressive in facing up to the reality. It’s Islamic terrorism. It’s not just a nondescript, anonymous type of terrorism.”...
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i hope the hearings do not give rise to the practice of having a muslim command for muslim units.

Mr. King is incorrect when he says "Islamic terrorism" it's simply Islam. When the Khulafah of the old Caliphates and their jurists wanted to go on a raid they used ayat from the Qur'an about instilling terror into the hearts of the disbelievers, how is that not terrorism? Simple, terrorism is according to the English dictionary an act of "violence" to achieve political ends. While that is what terrorists state, their goal or "ends" are certainly not purely political.

say whatever you want, when you go on a raid, that's a terrorist act

KING: "It’s Islamic terrorism. It’s not just a nondescript, anonymous type of terrorism.”

Well folks, the courageous Congressman just shattered a sacred cow. Notice, he didn't phrase it "ISLAMIST terrorism"...or "RADICAL Islamic terrorism". Inevitably, the hyenas will soon be screaming and the vultures circling.

I know these hearings have been less than perfect, but I commend the good Congressman for having the gonads to pursue them.

So-called radical Islam is simply Islam. So-called moderate Islam is Islam practiced badly. Until this sinks into the collective consciousness of America and all the West, the games will continue. Congressman King's initiatives are a step in the right direction but only a step. Full realization that Islam itself is the problem is what has to occur.

King is wrong in looking for reason of "Islamic radicalization" some where else other than Islam itself. Doesn't he know that there is no radicalization of any kind - it's following of Islam ala Q(uran), plain and simple!!

Mo/allahu snakeber will always terrorize infidels!!

Folks,

We should help King instead of criticizing him. He is the only voice we have in Congress. We should say "THANK YOU" At least the guy is creating some awareness of the EVIL, right? We need much more of these heros in government. How much awarenes is each one of us creating?

In reality the so-called radicalization process is a false PC multicultural myth, as the existence of radical Muslims, extremist Muslims, Islamists, and moderate Muslims are all false PC multicultural myths. There are only MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS that are either violent jihadists or non-violent jihadists, and the few that are not jihadists are not Muslim at all, but blasphemous apostates instead that per the dictates of Islam must be executed. Indeed, the sixth and most important pillar of Islam makes it an obligatory duty in Islam for EVERY MUSLIM IN THE WORLD to fight jihad against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme. No exceptions.

As a matter of fact, terrorism, which as its name implies always only employs violence, in Islam is a capital offense because it is blasphemous since it is a Western manifestation only and therefore un-Islamic. Thus, jihad attacks that inevitably get conflated and morally equated with terrorism are actually violent jihad attacks, as jihad in stark contrast to terrorism is holy fighting in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme and jihad unlike terrorism can be both violent and non-violent.

Indeed, the non-violent varieties of jihad relative to the violent varieties of jihad takes place astronomically far more prevalently, yet because PC multiculturalism pervades our society, jihad is always conflated and morally equated with terrorism, and because terrorism as its name implies is always only violent, the many varieties of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad that takes places astronomically far more prevalently than violent jihad, consequently takes place completely under the radar unopposed, undetected, and unacknowledged thanks again to PC multiculturalism.

As a matter of fact, the overwhelming preponderance of Muslims in the world today prefer to pursue non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad vs. violent jihad, as violent jihad attacks, such as the 9/11 jihad attacks, bring about unwanted and counterproductive scrutiny and focus on Islam. Therefore, non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists living in Western countries will often tip off Western authorities of impending violent jihadist attacks to stave off this unwanted and counterproductive scrutiny and focus on Islam.

In fact, mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of demographic conquest is the most prevalent form of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad being employed by the Islamic world today. As Muslims never ever migrate to the West or anywhere else for that matter for the purpose of assimilating and integrating, but instead to eventually subjugate and dominate via the imposition of Sharia for the purpose of demographic conquest to make Islam supreme.

Indeed, can anyone point to just one place in the world where the majority of Muslim immigrants have actually assimilated and integrated and matriculated into becoming contributing and productive citizens, instead of forming Muslim enclaves that over time morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia as fifth columns and in direct contravention to the laws of the states in which they reside?

Thus, if most Westerners today understood what jihad relative to terrorism actually is, then most Westerners would readily see through the taqiyya, for instance, that presents Israel and Jews as aggressive and greedy land grabbers.

Hey dude...read my post below for an accurate assessment of what constitutes terrorism relative to jihad.

Hi Wellington,

This is the biggest and most frustrating problem we face, that it is Islam itself that fuels and promotes these problems and this terror and it is Islam that encourages Muslims to lie about what they are doing so we won't notice it. It doesn't confuse me; it simply makes my blood boil and makes me more determined than ever to stand up against these lies and expose Islam and it's lying adherents for what they truly are. I also don't have much use for the unicorn-like-imaginary-moderates who claim to be Muslims, perhaps out of fear for being ostracized or worse, but who are not my allies. These folks are either for me or against me and if thy align themselves with Islam by calling themselves Muslim when they know what happens to other people because of Islam and they don't warn anybody, they don't get any points for being the good guy. They are just as much a part of the problem as the jihadis are.

There is an attempt by Islamists to join the military and infiltrate the military...

Whoa, now ol' Pete is pushing his nose closer to where it ain't supposed to be, he's edging dangerously close to a Geezers blowup when he questions Moslems in the armed forces, cuz membership in that calls for unquestioned loyalty. Pete's hearings on this subject is tantamount to axeing, "Can Moslems be loyal Americans?"

Of course they can't. Even the passive ones, the Silent Majority of Moslemo-America that doesn't engage in terror operations, but silently approves of them.

The Whole Troof and Nothing But The Troof
Better watch it, Pete, that ground is hot, where the rubber and the road meet,
Can get the job done in a way that doesn't offend them, can you be that discreet?
No, you can't, so why even try? Our news entertainers would make a hue and cry,
Triangulating the obvious, nibbling the edges is no margin call; we all could die!
- the Holy Prophet APF

Hi Isabella. Hope you're doing well and enjoying the Christmas season. My wife now has three Christmas trees at various places throughout our house and they're all decorated beautifully. Other Christmas trimmings can be found in many nooks and crannies. My wife loves to decorate for Christmas and I love it that she loves it.

What a beautiful time of year Christmas is. And there's three Christmases. First is the commercial Christmas, which is fine as long as it doesn't get out of hand, which it frequently does (don't you just hate it when you see Christmas decorations in October?---I say no Christmas ornaments or anything Christmas until the day after Thanksgiving---too much of a good thing lessens the good thing). Second is the religious Christmas, which has, quite understandably, tremendous meaning for Christians (and don't you just despise the way Islam has appropriated Jesus, an infinitely superior character to Mohammed across the board, and has Him throwing Christians into Hell at the end of the world for deifying Him?). And, thirdly, there is Christmas as a frame of mind, which I have always cherished and always will. One doesn't have to be religious (such as me) to embrace this Christmas. But I digress.

Getting to your main point, that it is Islam itself that is the problem, I have frequently contended that I wish most all Muslims were totally devout Muslims, i.e., radicals. The so-called moderate Muslims are actually, as I see it, a bigger problem because they give cover time and time again to a religion which has spiritual fascism written all over it. If most every Muslim lived their faith to the full, non-Muslims would get sick of Islam even faster than they will eventually.

Well, I hope you and those who are most precious to you will have a fine Christmas season. Wishing you all the best and hoping that those in the West, en masse, finally wake up to the extraordinary menace which Islam is to the human race. Take care, my friend, and Merry Christmas.

I never ever ever imagined that I would actually be something of a fan of a politician, but this guy and Allen West (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MZx38i6iYs) (who I was lucky enough to be able to vote for as my Florida congressional district 22 congressman) have earned my admiration. Maybe Rep. King comes off as a little mild, but he's still a breath of fresh air. I'm thankful.

Right on Isabella and Wellington

I know Rand, right? I love Peter King. He is everything a Congressman should be. He may not have all the answers yet but he is certainly searching for them and he gets lots of credit for that. : )

Oh Wellington, you make it sound so wonderful! Yes, I love Christmas too, especially because it's my Lord's birthday. But isn't it interesting that your wife decorating those trees all over the house brings such happiness? I've known for years now that something happens to people as we get closer to Christmas Day. So many people have put up lights around Northern VA, many more than last year. (I think it's a sign of hope.)

When I'm out running around a day or two before Christmas, especially on Christmas Eve, people transform themselves. As you walk from your car to the supermarket to grab that one last thing, people in cars and trucks stop to let you go and smile too. If you wish them a Merry Christmas they wish it right back to you, so very cheerfully. The day has a magic all it's own but it's not really magic. It's love, spread to everyone you meet as God always wanted us to do. This doesn't happen on Halloween or Labor Day and certainly not on Eid, but it always, always happens near Christmas.

I wish you could see my church at Midnight Mass late on Christmas Eve, Wellington. My very small church up in Vienna, Virginia used to be a Protestant church that was used by Clara Barton during the Civil War as a hospital. It's about 161 years old. It is trimmed with beautiful greens with big red ribbons, all up and down the church and there is a very big Christmas tree with nothing but white lights and a star on the top in the left hand corner up front on the other side of the altar. In front of that, on the inside of the Communion rail, is a very large stable with all the figures that we know from the Nativity, Mary and Joseph, the shepherds and wise men, and the angels. Jesus is not put in the crib until Midnight. And then before mass starts there is a procession with Father and a couple of visiting priests, all dressed in gold, and about twenty altar boys, ranging from the youngest who are about eight years old to the tallest teenagers (our tallest one is about 6'5") carrying the silver crucifix and lighted candles. It is so peaceful and beautiful and the choir sings the Christmas songs in Latin: Adeste Fidelis, O Santissimo, Ave maria. I LOVE IT!

But don't think we don't have one huge celebration when we get home! I've got to have a Christmas tree and I've gone nuts the last few years making it funky, yet gorgeous! I like hot pink, lavender, crystal, lime green and pale blue Christmas balls and tons of glitter, crystal ice cycles and then garland of the same decking my china cabinet. I have a wonderful collection of Santa Clauses and of course a beautiful creche that just sets off the whole room. If you and your wife were here I would cook you up a brie and hot sausage breakfast casserole and fresh fruit salad for brunch that morning (my kids' favorite) and ply you with homemade pralines, Amish Friendship bread and Christmas coffee with Bailey's, Kaluha and whipped cream.

My sister-in-law and I have decided that since we went nuts on Thanksgiving (and were up cleaning the kitchen until after midnight) we are going simple for Christmas dinner: her homemade, 100% Italian sauce in her fabulous lasagne (Undaunted knows all about it) with a wonderful salad and really great garlic bread. Of course there will be all kinds of goodies but we decided not to spend all day in the kitchen on Christmas Day this time. (Sometimes simpler is better.) And then after we eat and open presents we will play the family's favorite card game, Crazy Rummy which my brother brought back from Viet Nam 45 years ago (we've been playing it ever since) and Quirkle. And we'll play with the babies, and chat with the grannies and see all my kids and my nieces and nephews. And through the day I will remember how good God is to send His son for us and say prayers for the Poor Souls in Purgatory so that they may get out in time for the big celebration up in heaven. It will be a glorious day!

I hope you and your family will have as wonderful a Christmas as mine will. And I wish and pray that someday the Muslims will be able to enjoy it also. They are so in need of something wonderful like Christmas.

Awareness? Seems to me that the musloids are creating more than enough awareness if only the MSM would do their job. And what little does get reported gets a sugar coating like no other.

Rep. Peter King to hold fourth round of hearings on Islamic "radicalization"
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I'm glad to see it.

Congressman King clearly does not understand all the subtleties of the Jihad threat, but I believe he gets the general gist—which is far more than one can say for most members of Congress—or most politicians in the West in general.

Wellington and Isabella the Crusader, thank you for your descriptions of your Christmas celebrations. They both sound wonderful.

I just went to our local Christmas tree lighting ceremony up on Piedmont avenue a few days ago. Christmas lights, caroling, and Santa for the little ones. Really lovely.

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