Prince Faisal Bin Abdullah Al-Saud, whom this report names as being responsible for the contents of the textbooks, said he didn't know how those ideas got in there.
Qur'an 5:33 prescribes the amputation of hands and feet on opposite sides for "waging war against Allah," and "spreading corruption (or mischief) in the land." Six Saudis were recently sentenced to this punishment. Qur'an 5:38 prescribes amputation for theft.
More on the unending stream of Islamic supremacism and Sharia's brutality found in Saudi textbooks. "Extremist Teachings Remain in Saudi Textbooks Despite Kingdom's Claims of Reform," by Catherine Herridge for Fox News, December 21:
Despite Saudi Arabia's promises to clean up textbooks in the kingdom, recent editions continue to raise alarms in the West over jihadist language.
The recent editions were obtained by the Institute for Gulf Affairs in Washington, D.C., and the translations were first provided to Fox News.
“This is where terrorism starts, in the education system.” Ali Al-Ahmed, director of the Institute for Gulf Affairs, told Fox News. Al-Ahmed, a Saudi national, said the textbooks, made and paid for by the Saudi government, were smuggled out of the kingdom through confidential sources.
In a textbook for 10th-graders, printed for the 2010-2011 academic year, al-Ahmed said teenagers are taught barbaric practices. “They show students how to cut (the) hand and the feet of a thief,” he said. In another textbook, for ninth-graders, the students are taught the annihilation of the Jewish people is imperative. One text reads in part: “The hour (of judgment) will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them. ... There is a Jew behind me come and kill him.”
Sahih Bukhari 4.52.177: "Allah's Apostle said, The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him'."
According to the textbook translations provided to Fox News, women are described as weak and irresponsible. And al-Ahmed said the textbooks call for homosexuals to be put to death "because they pose a danger at society, as the Saudi school books teaches.”
Al-Ahmed say the textbooks are both a Saudi and an American problem. “If you teach 6 million children in these important years of their lives, if you install that in their brain, no wonder we have so many Saudi suicide bombers.”
After the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, there was an intense focus on Saudi Arabia and its educational teachings because almost all of the attackers were from the kingdom. In 2006, Saudi Ambassador to the U.S. Prince Turki al-Faisal told the Chicago Council on Foreign Relationships that the Saudi king was determined to eradicate this ideology of hate.
“In Saudi Arabia, King Abdullah recognizes that above all else education is the key, and he has put forth a program of reforms in this area," al-Faisal said. "In recent years, the kingdom has reviewed all of its education practices and materials and has removed any element that is inconsistent with the needs of a modern education. Not only have we eliminated what is objectionable from old textbooks that were in our system, we have also implemented a comprehensive internal revision and modernization plan."
But the new textbooks, most from the 2010-2011 academic year, show the hateful speech remains.
In Atlanta earlier this month, the Saudi minister responsible for the textbooks talked about the importance of education for woman [sic]. Asked by Fox News about the textbooks, Prince Faisal Bin Abdullah Al-Saud said, “I always say to people, please come. Come, try to see us. But come without a preconceived idea. ... Especially when you want to raise the future, no one is going to introduce violence. Violence is absolutely against - I think this is, I don't know who put in those ideas.”
When Fox News offered to show the quotes to the minister, he said, “there are many quotes” and walked away.
Fox News also asked the Saudi Embassy in Washington D.C., for comment on the textbooks and the translations, but there was no immediate response.
All that Saudi money in our companies...
Remember all those stories of US companies with investments in Nazi Germany? How company spokespeople apologized for something that was commited by a previous generation? Most of the investments were set prior to Hitler's 7 years in power prior to all-out war, by Americans who had no Internet to understand what the Nazis were about?
Now fast forward to today...
The Saudis gave us 9/11, wahhabism, global islamic terrorism, and the evil garbage they practice at home, enslaving millions who really don't want to be Muslim, yet our companies and universities take Saudi money--Twitter is the latest example--without compunction, since its easy to verify Saudi human rights criminality on the Internet. Sounds like a lot of hand-wringing books and lawsuits in the future. To bad TODAY's spokespeople can't regret TODAY's criminal complicity, instead of passing the buck (or taking the buck, and passing the blame, as it were).
If you reformed Islam to remove all the sadism, barbarism, extortion, coercion, hatred, pedophilia, terrorism, rage, ignorance, obscurantism, lies, megalomania, fascism and general around thuggery, what would be left?
. .Zilch. .Nada. .Nothing , aside from plagiarised fragments stolen from the early Scriptures.
My.
When I study Torah, I learn the laws of how to give charity, how to use the power of speech to uplift myself and humanity, and how to love my fellow as myself. I learn the ways of prayer, and how to properly observe the Shabbat and holidays.
My Christian and Buddhists friends tell me they are taught in their religions how to love their neighbor as themselves, or how to overcome their personal failures by improving themselves.
Are we infidels (Jews and Christians and Buddhists) missing something?
The link takes me to an article by Catherine. I can't tell if she was invited on the air Thurs to actually report it. Maybe she's off for X-mas. I did see at least one Fox segment on Iran's navy mischief.
The flaw in Ms. Herridge's coverage of Middle East issues:
"Extremist" Teachings Remain in Saudi Textbooks Despite Kingdom's Claims of Reform.
I'm not sure if she doesn't know the truth, or if she is prohibited from telling the truth on television.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I find such teachings a form of child abuse, which comes out of Saudi Arabia. I went to my public library some time ago and picked up a piece of literature in the library, published by Saudi Arabia. It was well written, glossy and anti-Israel. I took the two pieces that were left and threw them into the trash. That is how bad they were. Saudi Arabia is no friend of freedom.
After the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, there was an intense focus on Saudi Arabia and its educational teachings because almost all of the attackers were from the kingdom.
And there was an intense effort to hide the evidence. However, the hate continues and our leaders continue to bow before the Saudis. Think of a whole nation fed this hateful garbage day in and day out and you have a society that rivals Iran in its pursuit to enslave all of humanity.
Prince Faisal Bin Abdullah Al-Saud said, “…Come, try to see us. But come without a preconceived idea. ... Especially when you want to raise the future, no one is going to introduce violence.”
“Preconceived idea”??? Say, rather, Islam’s reputation and Saudi taqiyya! No one is going to introduce violence?? Like, 9/11? London? Leicester? Madrid? Bali? Times Square? Detroit? The Netherlands? Pakistan? Afghanistan? Indonesia? Nigeria? Buenos Aires? Tehran? Bagdad? Gaza? Tahir Square? Ft. Hood? Norway? Sweden? France? Denmark? Austria? Germany?
Are you kidding me? Oh, I “misunderstand” Islam! All those Muslim suicide bombers and rapists and honor killings and beheadings and amputations and stonings and church burnings ad nauseum…all that is the responsibility of secret Rosicrucians pretending to be Muslims. And you, Prince, just don’t know who put those ideas in the Saudi version of The Bobbsey Twins. Just can’t figure it out. It just happened. Allah willed it, right?
Prince, you’re just a useless sack of pig entrails. And your Allah is a certifiable wacko. And your religion is a cult for creeps, for the walking dead. Director George Romero missed his calling. He could just as well have made zombie movies about Islam.
Since Darwin and Evolution aren't popular among Muslims, a sure way to increase their interest in biology would be to have classes on ... Amputations and Beheadings (101 and possibly Advanced Amputations and Beheadings). Since non-Muslims are unclean, maybe also a class on Infidel Biology?
This stuff scares the ##%* out of me. And the MSM reports none of it and I believe the world has gone mad. I could try to ignore it but not when I go to the local Aldi and WalMart and see more and more muslims almost every day. Why are they here? What do they really want? Why should I care when I have enough problems feeding my own family?
Now the sunnis are trying suicide bombings in Syria. Those are BHO's allies.
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2011/Dec-23/157743-attacks-launched-on-security-buildings-in-damascus-tv.ashx#axzz1hMWsxRcL
HUSSEIN OBAMA: FIGHTING FOR THE DEATH OF SECULARISM IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
You are right Maxpublius, cooperating with evil is nothing new. After WW2 what did the U.S. do with the enemy Nazi & Japanese scientists that had been busy killing allied soldiers? They brought them to live & work in the U.S. for them under Operation Paperclip, thats what they did. By the way, the NSA must hate this web site. Whenever we say things like "Jihad" it triggers their flags, they must get a lot of false hits from this site.
At least they can't burn down the Christian churches in saudi arabia. Think about it!
Which is more dangerous from the perspective of a multinational corporate trading partner with the Saudi royal family?
1) The Koran and these Sharia-compliant teachings; or
2) Pluralistic democracy and equal rights and an end to titles of nobility in Saudi Arabia?
Can we liken the wealth of the Saudi royal family to that of the wealth of Ferdinand Marcos? Illgotten, and recoverable by the people if they leave power and the country.
Teaching about amputations could be more about terrorizing the students than anything else. (Like TSA rape (cough, I mean sexual assault) itself.)
Why would anyone who calls themself a teacher agree to have a part in teaching children how to amputate limbs?
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Aren't children supposed to play, learn colors, numbers, letters - you know - basic stuff like that?
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After 25 years in the classroom, I can honestly say that I have never been more embarrassed to call myself a teacher.
Au contraire, mon frere--
The Old Testament does not mandate amputation for theft. Instead, the principle is "If a man steals an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; her shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep." (Exodus 22:1).
This enshrines a principle of restitution rather than punishment for theft, and by no means cripples the offender for life. In contrast, Hudud punishments are original to Islam, not to the Hebrew Scriptures, or, perhaps, borrowed from pre-Islamic Arab tradition rather than the Hebrews.
Every time I hear someone talk about the "Old Testament severity" of Islamic jurisprudence, I want to puke. Such a comment reveals only the commentator's utter ignorance of both Islam and the Old Testament. And, since this year marks the four hundredth anniversary of the English Authorized (King James) Version, it shows the kinds of idiocy that can be accepted as true due to our loss of familiarity with our own Holy Book.
This could get interesting. The next time Abdul or Ali steals some kid's lunch money, his classmates may decide to convene their own Sharia court, and put their lessons into practice. There may be a lot of one-handed kids in S.A. in coming years.
"Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man." (Thomas Paine)
I am starting to believe that Muslims don't know the meaning of "violence"...
In my biology class all we did was dissect a frog. We did it as a learning exercise to see the internal components and relate their functions to the texts we were studying.
The islamic way. Cause pain and deprive others of what the Lord has given.
islam is so grosssssss!
How barbaric ...
and are you sure that this is the "religion of peace" you're talking about? Hey maybe Christians, Jews, Hindu's, etc, are taught the same heinous practices.
*sarc
Some "religion of peace", eh? ...religion of pieces is more like it.
Kepha. .I have a huge respect for your scholarship, and I should clarify that the 'fragments' I was referring to were merely the stolen names from the Torah and Bible, without any implication of jurisprudence, my friend.
Saudi textbooks instruct children in how to carry out amputations for Sharia punishments
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Sadly, there is nothing new about this story. The only thing that makes it "news" is that the Saudis keep saying they have removed this barbarism, and—once again—they have lied.
More:
Prince Faisal Bin Abdullah Al-Saud, whom this report names as being responsible for the contents of the textbooks, said he didn't know how those ideas got in there.
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What utter crap. This sort of thing could not happen *without* the stamp of approval from the Saudi royal family.
And *why not*? This is not some musty old passage that simply would up in the new books through error and inertia—these are Shari'ah punishments that are *regularly carried out in the savage "Land of the Two Holy Places"*.
More:
In a textbook for 10th-graders, printed for the 2010-2011 academic year, al-Ahmed said teenagers are taught barbaric practices. “They show students how to cut (the) hand and the feet of a thief,” he said. In another textbook, for ninth-graders, the students are taught the annihilation of the Jewish people is imperative. One text reads in part: “The hour (of judgment) will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them. ... There is a Jew behind me come and kill him.”
Sahih Bukhari 4.52.177: "Allah's Apostle said, The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him'."
According to the textbook translations provided to Fox News, women are described as weak and irresponsible. And al-Ahmed said the textbooks call for homosexuals to be put to death "because they pose a danger at society, as the Saudi school books teaches.”
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All straight out of Islamic texts. As horrific as the above is, there is nothing here that you do not find in the Qur'an, the Hadiths, and the Sira.
More:
Al-Ahmed say the textbooks are both a Saudi and an American problem. “If you teach 6 million children in these important years of their lives, if you install that in their brain, no wonder we have so many Saudi suicide bombers.”
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And this is not just an American, and Western, problem because of Saudi suicide bombers—these books are *used in Islamic schools in the United States and other parts of the West*.
More:
After the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, there was an intense focus on Saudi Arabia and its educational teachings because almost all of the attackers were from the kingdom. In 2006, Saudi Ambassador to the U.S. Prince Turki al-Faisal told the Chicago Council on Foreign Relationships that the Saudi king was determined to eradicate this ideology of hate.
“In Saudi Arabia, King Abdullah recognizes that above all else education is the key, and he has put forth a program of reforms in this area," al-Faisal said. "In recent years, the kingdom has reviewed all of its education practices and materials and has removed any element that is inconsistent with the needs of a modern education. Not only have we eliminated what is objectionable from old textbooks that were in our system, we have also implemented a comprehensive internal revision and modernization plan."
But the new textbooks, most from the 2010-2011 academic year, show the hateful speech remains.
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They've been lying to us for *ten years now*. This isn't even plausible Taqiyya...
Pax, Shalom, and 平安, Jim, and a very happy holiday season. And I still think that London is one of the world's great cities.
Thank you Kepha. .and all the best to you, and your's, this, and every season.