Saudis sentence Shi'ite hajj pilgrim to 500 lashes and year in jail for blasphemy

He insulted the companions of Muhammad. This is the kind of law that the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) is working hard to bring to the West. Here, if you mention something impermissible about Islam or Muhammad, you're not lashed yet -- except by the mainstream media.

"Australian sentenced to 500 lashes in Saudi Arabia," from AFP, December 7 (thanks to all who sent this in):

An Australian man has been sentenced to 500 lashes and a year in jail by a court in Saudi Arabia after being found guilty of blasphemy, Canberra said on Wednesday.

Reports said Mansor Almaribe, 45, was detained in the city of Medina on November 14 while making the hajj pilgrimage and accused of insulting companions of the prophet Mohammed.

Australia's Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said he was sentenced on Tuesday and Canberra's ambassador in Saudi Arabia had been in touch with authorities to plead for leniency....

A consular official attended the sentencing, where the Shiite Muslim was initially slapped with a two-year jail term that was subsequently reduced, the spokeswoman added....

His eldest son, Jamal, told the newspaper this week that his father had been reading and praying in a group when accosted by religious police and arrested....

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How soon before Infidels in the West find themselves accused of things like "insulting [the] companions of the prophet Mohammed"? Pretty soon, if the OIC has its way...

The fact that this man—no matter how nominally—is an Australian *charged with blasphemy* should alarm everyone here.


Shocking!
What is the world coming to? A man can't even go to a black box in the sand and pray to his pedophile rapist mass murdering prophet without being lashed? Tsk, tsk, tsk!


I'm permanently PO'ed the LSM refuses to use the word "ISLAM". Should we be grateful at least this article used the word "Muslim"?

Unless the LSM steps up and tells the truth soon (at all?), we're in tons of incremental crap! They're the ones with potential for widespread coverage.

Though a lot of Muslim/Islam education to us kafirs has been successful here, I’m doubtful all the brave Freedom Fighters at various blogs can succeed at enlightening, reinforcing, and exposing the massive threats to our freedoms at this rate.

P.S. I’m certain I speak for many that remain grateful to RS, PG, and many of you here for our continuing education.
A sincere thank you to you all!


WE ARE AT WAR!

Shia are known for insulting the "Sahaba" or companions of Muhammad*, although their books and statements by their Imams and scholars say that they are supposed to follow the "Sahaba" as Ali himself pledged his allegiance to them.

* The Sunnis are the followers of the "Sahaba"**, the companions of Muhammad, whereas Shia are the follows of the "ahl al-Bayt", the People of the Household, Muhammad's progeny. Although both sects claim that they treat each group with equal respect.

** It should also be noted there are Sunni scholars, writers and thinkers who make statements that are considered "insulting" the "Sahaba" like Mawdudi, Sayyid Qutb and Ibn Taymiyyah... There are probably others but that's all I can think of at any rate...

Typical, any excuse to exercise sadism will do.

There are several issues here. Firstly, an Australian citizen has been arbitrarily arrested and sentenced to a barbaric punishment that, given his age and serious health issues, could kill him. The Australian government have to realise that in order to save him, they will have to appeal to the Saudi King to intervene - which will require our Foreign Minister (at the least) - personally! The Sharia court that sentenced him imagine they were being lenient - given that blasphemy under Shariah can be given the death penalty. The Sunni religious authorities consider ALL Shiites to be blasphemers and they are very unlikely to further reduce his sentence or the corporal punishment.

The second issue relates to the wider implications of Muslims in Australia. The Sunni-Shia divide and the horrific violence it attracts (such as the suicide bombing of Shia celebrating Ashura in Kabul) could easily be imported into Australia by the increasing numbers of Muslim migrants and assylum-seekers granted residence here. That it hasn't happened yet is no assurance that it won't.

In fact those here who undertake haj will not only demand the Government save them from their co-religionists overseas when something as nasty as the Saudi religious police befalls them, but its almost certain to eventually bring to Australia the crap associated with their violently intolerant practise of Islam as well.

500 Lashes?
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May as well just go to chop-chop square in Riyadh and get it over with in one fell-swoop, so to speak.

Not many people could live beyond 200 or so lashes, I don't think.

500 is unthinkable and supremely barbaric.

The Aussie ABC report on this neglected to mention the all-important fact that he was a Shiite.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-12-07/australian-faces-lashes-in-saudi-arabia/3716990

And now, because this Aussie-passport-toting Shiite Mohammedan went off and got into trouble in *the* world centre of Shiite-hating Sunni Mohammedans, Australia will have to go to enormous trouble and expense to try to fish him out (and the Abominable House of Saud will probably milk the situation for all it's worth, in order to obtain maximum humiliation not only for the hated Shiite they intend to kill, but also for the hated non-Muslim Australian polity).

The ABC has one thing that isn't in the AFP account.

They went trotting off to some Muslim spin-doctor at an Islamic Study Centre - one of those that have been infecting universities all over the western world and beyond - to get an opinion.


'The director of the Australian National University's centre for Arab and Islamic Studies, Amin Saikal, says the sentence of 500 lashes seems harsh.

'Seems harsh'....Only 'seems'????

"I think it really depends on the nature of what he's been convicted for.'

OHo. So that means that Mr Amin Saikal thinks there are 'crimes' for which 500 lashes is entirely appropriate as a punishment? Did the ABC reporter ask Mr Saikal which 'crimes' those might be, that Mr Saikal thinks *ought* to be properly punished by 500 lashes - a killing flogging?


'But 500 lashes certainly seems excessive.

"The Saudi authorities and particular the legal authorities would have to really justify that."

And if they do, Mr Saikal is totally fine with that, and would happily subject Mr Almaribe to a brutal and probably lethal punishment?

And given that - his casual acceptance of Cruel and Unusual Punishment for a 'crime' such as alleged 'blasphemy' (that is, deviation from a particular brand of Islamic belief) - why is Mr Saikal in Australia at all, let alone heading up the ANU's Centre for Arab and Islamic Studies?

I wonder what he teaches his students...and what he carefully omits to teach them?

Does he tell them that apostates from Islam are to be killed, and that this is right and just?

I wonder what his answer would be if he were asked point blank whether he agreed with and approved of the death penalty brought down against Aasia Bibi in Pakistan, or upon apostate-from-isalm Yusuf Nadarkhani in Iran? I wonder how fast he'd tapdance around the answer, or whether he'd be brazen enough to openly support those 'punishments', those gross violations of the human right to freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, freedom of religion?

@pigs fly
Islamic psycho-sadism at work. How they get their rocks off ...literally.

@dumbledoresarmy
Right you are. Australia taxpayers are on the hook for at least a million as the Aussie Gov't intervenes in what is an internal Islamic squabble. Let them settle this among themselves and the devil take ..... the hindmost

The Australian MSM really has no clue. Listening to the latest suicide mosque Sunni v Shia attack a couple of days ago in which about 75 muslims died, the female news reader blamed it on an "insurgent". No miss newsreader please do some reading, this is what happens when you get 100% muslims in an area, it is supposed to bring peace but they just killing each other anyway.

"100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons".

Plead? No. Even though this man is a half baked muslim Aussie, in a real world, where again men and women display courage and morality instead of madness, the government would demand that these heathen not execute this torture over a speech issue and let this nutbag return home.

No, there is only ONE issue here, and that is sharia. Mansor Almaribe violated sharia and is sentenced under his own belief system. The only way Australia should become involved in this religious question is to photograph Mansor Almaribe's back, alive OR dead, and widely disseminate these pictures, explaining that this was the will of allah and outside Australia's POLITICAL responsibilities. If it doesn't, I can see swarms of Catholics demanding that the Australian consulate tell the Vatican to reduce the penances imposed on them after Confession.

I do NOT equate 500 lashes with 10 Hail Marys. But punishment for sin is called for by both mohammadans and Catholics. If you disagree with the punishments ordained for certain sins, don't commit those sins, or drop out of that religion.

This guy is lucky that he was not separated from his head ;-)! Soudis are US "friends" whose oil we buy, and then they channel the money to the terrorists in the Middle East and Western countries that buy their oil. It is not a coincidence that 19 our of the 20 suicide terrorists of 9/11 were Saudis. Wahabis are firmly stooped in their medieval evil Sharia and mysogini of Islam ;-)!

As for violence against each other in Islam, just look what is now happening in Syria, and what the Arab spring is rapidly turning into: Going backwards in history toward dark ages of sharia. "Elections", which were probably rigged by Jihadists of the Muslim Brotherhood and others who are worse (although it is difficult to imagine how it is possible).

Islam promotes Jew-hating and other hating Nazi-like ideology, which has not place in the modern world of tolerance and human rights of individuals. 5I (It Is Islam Itself, Imbecile!)

Good posts, Doc and Dumbledore's Army.

This sort of insanity causes more problems for the West. While it is ludicrous to consider these Muslims residing in the West as true "Australians" or "Britons" or "Americans", it still sets a terrible precedent if we don't come to the aid of our citizens (no matter how nominal) who are abused in Dar-al-Islam.

It also means we have to waste what influence we have in the Muslim word on saving idjits like this Hadji, instead of threatened Infidels like Asia Bibi.

I am in complete agreement. If you deceide to visit hell don't complain if you get hot.
This guy probably believes in shariah law so let him get some experience of it.
If he wants to be religious he needs to find a better way of worship.

Alarm Bells are ringing G.I

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