U.K.: Gang of Muslim women who savagely beat non-Muslim woman let off because "they weren't used to drinking because they're Muslims"

You'll want to read this one sitting down. Under no other circumstances in the known universe would anyone dream of applying this appalling double standard. If "sorry, I was drunk and my alcohol tolerance isn't that great" became a viable defense for violent crimes, the system would be overloaded with appeals tomorrow. But these defendants are apparently "more equal than others" before the law.

Virtually no one at all seems to care about the victim, who is still suffering panic attacks and undergoing counselling. Justice for her does not appear to be any sort of priority. "Girl gang who kicked woman in the head while yelling 'kill the white slag' freed after judge hears 'they weren't used to drinking because they're Muslims'," by Andy Dolan and Katherine Faulkner for the Daily Mail, December 6 (thanks to all who sent this in):

A gang of Muslim women who attacked a passer-by in a city centre walked free from court after a judge heard they were ‘not used to being drunk’ because of their religion.
The group – three sisters and a cousin – allegedly screamed ‘kill the white slag’ as they set upon Rhea Page as she waited for a taxi with her boyfriend.

Shouldn't that be enough to establish a racial hate crime? Oh, wait: more equal than others, yes.

Miss Page, 22, was left with a bald patch where her hair was pulled out in the attack and was left ‘black and blue’ after suffering a flurry of kicks to the head, back, arms and legs while motionless on the pavement.
Ambaro Maxamed, 24, students Ayan Maxamed, 28, and Hibo Maxamed, 24, and their 28-year-old cousin Ifrah Nur each admitted actual bodily harm, which carries a maximum sentence of five years’ imprisonment.
But Judge Robert Brown gave them suspended jail terms after hearing mitigation that as Muslims, the women were not used to being drunk. The Koran prohibits Muslims from consuming alcohol, although Islamic teachings permit its use for medicinal purposes.

Any remorse? Perhaps not:

After the sentencing, Ambaro Maxamed wrote on her Twitter account: ‘Happy happy happy!’, ‘I’m so going out’, and ‘Today has been such a great day’.
Yesterday Miss Page, a care worker, called the sentence ‘disgusting’ and said the gang deserved ‘immediate custody’.
‘It’s no punishment at all,’ she said. ‘And for them to say they did it because they were not used to alcohol is no excuse. If they were not supposed to be drinking then they shouldn’t have been out in bars at that time of night.
‘Even after the police came and they all ran away, one of them came running back to kick me in the head one last time.
‘I honestly think they attacked me just because I am white. I can’t think of any other reason.’
Miss Page was treated for bruises and grazes after the attack in June last year as she walked to a taxi rank with boyfriend Lewis Moore, 23, in Leicester city centre.
At the time she worked caring for people with autism and learning difficulties but gave up the job after repeated absences because of stress and flashbacks.
She is still having counselling and suffers panic attacks.
She said: ‘We were just minding our own business but they kept shouting “white bitch” and “white slag” at me. When I turned around one of them grabbed my hair then threw me on the ground.

Hate crime? Anybody? Bueller?

‘They were taking turns to kick me over and over. I thought they were going to kill me.’...
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There are many more examples of Muslims in Britain being granted immunity from normal laws and receiving numerous special privileges not available to the rest of the population. Scroll down to Removing the benefits and increasing the costs of being Muslim at http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-destroy-islam-non-violently.html

As Andy Choudary would say: "Only Muslims are innocent". Miss Page is guilty of two things; being white and a Kufar.

Love is in the air...

The really startling thing in this report is the expression "girl gang". These thugs were not "girls". They were grown women, older than their victim, who was herself old enough to hold a responsible job and mind her own business in public.

I can understand that a 15-year-old who sneaks an illegal drink really might not be accustomed to drinking and really might be too immature to predict the lowering of inhibition. But an adult in her mid-20s ought to understand the implications of drinking regardless of whether she is personally "accustomed" to it. Alcohol is never an excuse for behaviour performed while under its influence.

umm... where was the boyfriend?  No one would have blamed him for laying into the attackers - female or otherwise.

It's the judge who should be in jail over this one. What sane person could give such a ruling thats sets these women free.
Why are we always surprised when this favouring of the muslim happens in the west? It is because that our Lib/Con government are nothing more than apologist lefties.
Time to boot the problem (islam) out of our countries for ever.

If they were sober enough to deliver kicks and pull hair out and the like, then in my book they were sober enough to know they were doing wrong. If they could establish they had really never been drunk before, that might somewhat mitigate what punishment they deserve, but they should still receive some serious punishment.

The judge may have been afraid. If judges in the UK are afraid of Muslims, and I'll bet a lot of them are, the UK is in deep trouble.

So , how is this NOT a racial hate crime?

Imagine if the word was "muslim" instead of "white".

The UK is in serious trouble.

What happened with the boyfriend? Was he just standing by?

This is yet another appalling example of perverting the course of justice in the UK. Emma West is remanded in custody after verbally venting her frustration on immigrants, whilst seated on a tram with her son on her lap. It was started by an immigrant spitting on the floor in the vicinity of the child. A camera just happened to be around to record the episode - no doubt contrived by another immigrant! Emma was not violent - no blows were struck, she remained seated. Compare that to the above vicious assault and you will see that our justice system is not only not fit for purpose, it is positively corrupt.It is claimed that she is in custody 'for her own protection' following alleged death threats. Are the police prosecuting the issuers of such threats? No mention of that! Those alleged threats are far more serious than Emma's alleged offence!No way can Emma receive a fair trial, anyway, since the video of the episode went viral on U-Tube! Theresa May, Kenneth Clarke, David Camoron and all their privileged, dhimmi, Chamberlainesque, appeasing apologists are selling Britain out - and Camoron is about to get mugged in the EU by Merkozy and will return, waving a copy of The Beano ( Bullingdon Times ), declaring 'Fleeced in our time'! Pity they can't re-open Heston aerodrome to make his return more historically accurate.Britain is now truly broken! Camoron - SHAPE UP, OR SHIP OUT!

No one would have blamed the boyfriend for laying into the attackers? Not necessarily. You wouldn't have blamed him. I wouldn't have blamed him. But he might have ended up being blamed. Depends on whether there were witnesses and who the judge decides to believe about what happened.

But that shouldn't have stopped him from defending her. Possibly he did his best, but with three attackers going wild at once, and his girlfriend on the ground, maybe he was unable to stop them all at the same time. It probably happened very fast.

One wonders also where the boyfriend was at the end, when one of the attackers ran back to kick the girlfriend in the head that last time. He might have been distracted, completely unaware that one of the attackers was coming back, he might have turned his back to call for help. Can't judge what he did without knowing more about what happened.

Anyone know if the judge was a Muslim ?

Solomani asked, "Where was her boyfriend"? If you'd watched the video, you'd see he was fighting these four hellions. But as soon as he'd turn and lash out at one of them, the other three would hover over Page and kick her. At times they would gang up on him. He couldn't cover all the bases. He's to be credited with probably saving Page's life. Watch the video. And while watching it, ask yourself why the judge isn't dismissed from the bench and locked up for derelection of responsibility, because he watched the same video.

A story like this can induce either an anger-laced incredulity....or a chuckle at the utter absurdity of the human condition.

When I first read it, I felt the former. Now, I choose the latter.

This British judge is a clueless dhimmi who - if there was any justice in the world - would someday soon be assaulted and viciously beaten by a teetotaler on a drunken binge.

"Do as I say, not as I do." That's the operating mantra of Islam and Muslims. "Don't accuse us of intolerance, bigotry, racism, misogyny, pedophilia, murder, and torture, or we’ll scream ‘hate speech’ and Islamophobia. We’re here to conquer, not to assimilate. And we’ve got your infidel ‘justice’ system on our side. Get used to it.”

Where Islam is there is no justice for the non-Muslim. The judge in this case should be removed from office and penalized for his behavior. The Muslim women should have been locked up. Instead, they are free (multi-culturalism) bragging and well on their way to doing it again. Are there not any non-Muslim women int the UK who could find them and exact a little "street justice"? Another example of a "peaceful Islam" at work. Disgusting.

From looking at the video I suspect that the boyfriend was too drunk to defend his girlfriend properly...coupled with the state brainwashed fear of hurting/offending "minorities." I also think that the muslim slime were not particulary drunk..if at all. Their religious/cultural based defence should not be allowed ....just as it would not be allowed of foreigners in the shithole where this scum were conceived ...by other equally repulsive vermin.......Islam has got to go...the UK is heading for civil war due to this unwanted religion...sorry....fascist ideology.

Good points, skeen.

He *was* sticking up for her.

It actually says so in the report, though you have to read very carefully.

The idiot judge says (all sympathy for the poor dear murderous Muslimahs) - "But he said he accepted the women may have felt they were the victims of unreasonable force from Mr Moore as he tried to defend his girlfriend".

I've just begun reading the Comments.

English non-Muslims posting there are, for the most part, rationally FURIOUS.

I am, too. Because so far as I can see, this was a case of **attempted MURDER**.

One must ask: what the hell would this judge have done, had they landed one savage kick too many to the wrong part of the head, and, say, destroyed Miss Page's eyesight? or her hearing? Or rendered her a paraplegic or a quadriplegic, with a neck injury? Or...KILLED HER? Would he have let them off on a charge of manslaughter rather than prosecuting them for murder?


My only further comment would be that the best way for Ms Page to overcome the trauma she is suffering as a result of the attack (and I wouldn't be surprised, given that she was repeatedly kicked in the head, that she may be suffering actual neurological damage of some kind), which trauma is described here:

QUOTE Miss Page was treated for bruises and grazes after the attack in June last year as she walked to a taxi rank with boyfriend Lewis Moore, 23, in Leicester city centre.
At the time she worked caring for people with autism and learning difficulties but gave up the job after repeated absences because of stress and flashbacks.
She is still having counselling and suffers panic attacks QUOTE

would be for her and her boyfriend to sign up for full-on martial arts training and self-defence skills - the kinds of skills that enable you to deal with, for example, an attacker who has a knife, and even the self-defence skills needed to neutralise an attacker who has a gun - and **keep at it**. And what's more, to encourage all their friends and relations, male and female, to do exactly the same.

Had Miss Page and her boyfriend been doing, say, judo or wing chun kung fu together, regularly, they would likely not have been taken by surprise in the first place and they could have taught these evil murder-minded Muslimahs a very salutary lesson.

There's an ever-growing Team on-the-case now. .we'll pinpoint whoever is receiving the OIC kickbacks, and boot the slovenly proto-dhimmis square in the bollox. .

Further thought.

Miss Page said:

‘I honestly think they attacked me just because I am white. I can’t think of any other reason.’

Actually, although they did curse her as a 'white slag', I don't think it was her whiteness so much as her nonMuslimness that was the real object of their killing rage.

Had she been a black Caribbean Christian girl wearing a cross pendant, or a brown Hindu girl in a sari with a bindi on her forehead, or a Chinese girl, she'd likely have been targeted with just as much murderous savagery - for being non-Muslim. Whereas, had she been a white Bosniak or Albanian Muslim, blonde and blue-eyed but suitably be-hijabbed, I suspect she'd have been perfectly safe.

just watched the video again and still can't believe the judge's action in this case. Couple of more comments. It appears the female ambulance driver is giving the boyfriend hell (pointing finger) and if that is the case she needs to apologize. The other thing, what ever the boyfriend is holding must have been really important as he doesn't put it down to help his girlfriend. We need to take up a collection to teach that boy how to fight.

. .Metaphoricaly-speaking. .not advocating hooliganism.

This case should go to appeal - we look to the CPS to do just that!

is the judge a idiot
im muslim who supports the salafi ideology
and even i think they should have gotten maximum jail sentence

If this is whites attacking a muslim for no reason it goes down as a hate crime & they will be in in jail for 10 years. Way to go judge, this is how civil wars start, when the general population lose all faith in their officials.

So now what's to prevent them from finishing the job?

As I always post, no one should be surprised to find that "hate crime" laws are not enforced equally across all ethnic and religious lines. They were never intended to be. They were, from the start, envisioned as a weapon to be used by leftists against the culture of the traditional West.

Maybe this is a time when Sharia should have been applied. I imagine it carries a pretty heavy penalty for drinking -- maybe 50 lashes or so. Also it would carry penalties for each of these muslimas being out in public without her owner, plus he would have to kill her for dishonoring him.

It's that demon rum...devils juice, fire water...the ruinous curse of many good men...Mahound was right in banning this trouble maker...There is a hadith that has Mahound and his gang beating a drunk with shoes and palm branches simply because he was drunk...According to sharia, each of these vicious Muslimahs are due for 80 public lashes...I would expect them to be hauled before a sharia court, found guilty and lashed in the public square...Of course I'm sure these woman would convince the sharia court that they were not drinking at all, and beat the woman because she was kuffar...The court will excuse them because there is no sharia penalty for beating, robbing, or killing kuffar...

"The really startling thing in this report is the expression "girl gang". These thugs were not "girls". "

Good catch, Diana. And though the victim was younger than any of her attackers, the headline reads: "Girl gang who kicked WOMAN in the head..."

Same old same old, Rule number 1 Muslims are never guilty, they are always innocent. Rule number 2 Muslims are always the victim, never the aggaressor.

Clearly this must have been the kuffars fault. Simply because of being a kuffar. In this case the Muslim women did nothing wrong, in the eyes of Islam.

Non-Muslims should leave those unstable countries at once for their own safety. The U.S. should cut off all funding to Islam until the killings have stopped. Or perhaps put 5 million it a bank ear marked Islam. Then every time a Muslim kills a kuffar remove 1 million from the fund.

The U.S. should cut off all funding to Islam until the killings have stopped. Or perhaps put 5 million it a bank ear marked Islam.

I don't question your basic idea's, but I don't think US taxpayers money should be going to support anything Islam...
Various Mahoundians are not going to stop abusing and killing kuffar, because the Quran puts no time table on 'Fight them 'until'the whole world is for Allah'...'Until' is not only a vague concept, it cannot be achieved...So we have perpetual warfare...There is no good reason that US taxpayers money should go to that, or anything that resembles that...and that's that...

(video) Sahih Bukhari Vol 8, Book 81, #771 "The Prophet lashed him because of drinking (alcohol)"
Allah forbidds to drink alcohol (haram)

http://schnellmann.org/bukhari--the-prophet-lashed-him-because-of-drinking-alcohol.html

Qur'an 5:90 "Wine, Intoxicants (alcohol) is a great sin"
2:219 "wine is a great sin"

Punishment in Bukhari
Sahih Bukhari, Book 81: Limits and Punishments set by Allah (Hudood)

Bukhari Vol. 8, Book 81, No. 764, 767 "The Prophet beat a drunk with palm-leaf stalks and shoes. And Abu Bakr [close companion of Muhammad & father of Aisha] gave (such a sinner) forty lashes."

fatwa No. 237 "What is the punishment for one who drinks alcohol....?"

When barbarism attacks civilization, it's as if children are attacking grownups. That's why, when a gang of Muslimas aged 24-28 beat up a 22-year old female member of a Western society, we might naturally say 'girls beat up woman.'

To follow Islam is to be the worst kind of child -- spoiled, ignorant, un-empathetic -- regardless of age.

thats england for you.

here in germany the PC has even a worse stance. today the killers !! of a 44 year old biological german man were set free by the appeal judge since they were only 19 and therefore only kids and muslims as well. if the killer had been a biological german and christian he would have gotten probably 10 years but....had the dead man be a muslim then probably a life sentences would have been the result .i mean i can´t quite understand the reasoning , they beat the man who was on his way home from work to death ,because he refused to give them 20 cents . i mean in germany you can go to jail for not paying a parking ticket in time !!! but if you are muslim then total freedom from the law is the result !!thats already dhimmitum , unbelievable. anyway in europe generally it is now forbidden to critize islam or jail is waiting !

europe is lost ....USA you better take good care or you end the same way.

Now you know why muslims and alcohol don’t mix. Since alcohol makes you lose all inhibitions, the muslim’s inner jihadi comes out. Alcohol makes that go after the first 1st kaffur they see. It’s just as bad as Friday night prayer where they get hopped up over the Koran and then are ready to do jihad against kaffurs. All muslim should be banned from any bar or club.

1. The video makes clear that the boyfriend was indeed in the middle of the fray. Looks like he got in a couple of punches to at least two of the attackers' heads.

But they kept coming, and he was overwhelmed by the four attackers.

2. Note this, after viewing the video:

"But he [the judge] said he accepted the women may have felt they were the victims of unreasonable force from Mr Moore as he tried to defend his girlfriend, and handed the defendants a suspended sentence."

Unreasonable force?

What is the matter with that judge?

I do hope the girl has recourse to additional legal actions against her attackers.

As I always post, no one should be surprised to find that "hate crime" laws are not enforced equally across all ethnic and religious lines.

Oh yeah, you're so rat on there, Tea. Same goes for race laws. And soon maybe even environmental laws, cuz those guys wield the Scientific Method like a cudgel, but w/o the science.

Squalid Equality
Life's a 1-way street, it's payback time for hurts, real or imagined, that's why it is,
Mankind is going backward, toward the abyss, in the name of justice and redress.
Lo! Science! he sang in lip-curled mockery of the lab crockery, flashes and fizz!
Scientific Socialism to Ko-Ranic Science, professors & lawyers allowing us less.
- the Holy Prophet APF

Who turned on the spigot that has let in the flood of such "refugees?" Where is the spigot located? How do we turn off that spigot and bring those responsible to account?

For a start, does anyone have Judge Robert Brown's email address? I'd like to ask him not only why he didn't put these harpies in jail but why he didn't recommend their deportation back to Somalia following their sentence.

"What happened with the boyfriend? Was he just standing by?" --traeh @2:03 am

video, watch for yourself and consider the following quote from Spencer's link as you watch:

"Judge Brown said that
‘those who knock someone to the floor and kick them in the head can expect to go inside’. But he said he accepted
the women may have felt they were the victims of unreasonable force from Mr Moore as he tried to defend his girlfriend,
and handed the defendants a suspended sentence."
DailyMail link

BLIND JUSTICE?!

Lan astaslem.

The other side of the British injustice system today:


"'Woman on a tram' to spend Christmas behind bars 'for her own protection' after court views video of alleged racist rant."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070647/Racist-woman-tram-spend-Christmas-bars-protection.html#ixzz1frcIPoXO

Muslim women not used to drinking walk free after attack on woman

A gang of Somalian women who repeatedly kicked a young woman in the head walked free from court after a judge heard they were "not used to being drunk" because they were Muslim.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8937856/Muslim-women-not-used-to-drinking-walk-free-after-attack-on-woman.html

Muslim women not used to drinking walk free after attack on woman

A gang of Somalian women who repeatedly kicked a young woman in the head walked free from court after a judge heard they were "not used to being drunk" because they were Muslim.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8937856/Muslim-women-not-used-to-drinking-walk-free-after-attack-on-woman.html

Re:

Ambaro Maxamed,
Ayan Maxamed,
Hibo Maxamed,
Ifrah Nur

These four Muslim women are not only racist scumbags, but kicking someone in the head while yelling "kill the white sl--!", plus the apparently premeditated targeting of the victim, altogether looks like attempted murder. There was certainly a clear attempt to kill Miss Page, and she may well have been killed had her boyfriend not defended her from the four assailants.

Re:
"Judge" Robert Brown

This incredibly stupid, immoral, perverse, treasonous scumbag should himself be prosecuted for helping these would-be killers.

I hope that Miss Page and Mr. Moore appeal this "decision", and don't let up until this gang of murderous thugs is either behind bars or deported, and this "judge" is appropriately punished for his totally illegal and unethical "decision."

This incident also highlights the need for people to learn self-defense.

Another major concern is the unjustifiably hostile attitude that some judges have toward legitimate attempts at self-defense.

As far as I'm concerned, if you are being attacked by four people who are stating that they are going to kill you and are engaging in possibly lethal actions like kicking you in the head, at that point the only sensible actions are either to escape if you can, or, if you can't, then stand and fight to, at minimum, disable the people who are attempting to kill you, including by using whatever weapons may be on hand (bricks, rocks, etc.), yelling and making as much noise as possible to alert others to help. You have no choice but to do so if you can't escape, your assailants won't stop, and you don't want to die. If, in your attempt to defend yourself, your would-be killer dies, that should not be held against you--the person who is rightly trying to defend herself or himself from a deadly attack.

"‘Even after the police came and they all ran away, one of them came running back to kick me in the head one last time."

The police let her do it. It's disgraceful. Police officers on the scene who allow these kinds of murderous assaults to continue are at minimum incompetent and should be fired.

How about this damn British judge doing his job instead of taking such round about ways.

And why weren't they charged for being drunken and disorderly in public? I suspect that there are a number of charges that would normally have been brought weren't brought or were waived because these attackers were Muslims.

p.s. dda,

Ignore the "reply to" above. I was initially going to reply to your comment on the anti-white vs anti-Non-Muslim motives. On that point I would note that the statements quoted only indicate an anti-white motive. Yet it is probable that, if there was an anti-Non-Muslim motive here, that the fact that the victim was white--and visibly so with Islamic head covering etc--was used as the primary means of reaching that assumption.

typo correction: "and visibly so without Islamic head covering etc"

U.K.: Gang of Muslim girls who savagely beat non-Muslim woman let off because "they weren't used to drinking because they're Muslims"
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**My God**. The dhimmitude is *simply unbelievable*.

More:

Virtually no one at all seems to care about the victim, who is still suffering panic attacks and undergoing counselling. Justice for her does not appear to be any sort of priority.
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No, indeed.

More:

The group – three sisters and a cousin – allegedly screamed ‘kill the white slag’ as they set upon Rhea Page as she waited for a taxi with her boyfriend.

Shouldn't that be enough to establish a racial hate crime? Oh, wait: more equal than others, yes.
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Of course this was a hate crime. And as others have pointed out, "white" can most clearly be read here as "Infidel".

More:

Ambaro Maxamed, 24, students Ayan Maxamed, 28, and Hibo Maxamed, 24, and their 28-year-old cousin Ifrah Nur each admitted actual bodily harm, which carries a maximum sentence of five years’ imprisonment.
...

Diana Summers wrote:

The really startling thing in this report is the expression "girl gang". These thugs were not "girls". They were grown women, older than their victim, who was herself old enough to hold a responsible job and mind her own business in public.
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That struck me, as well, Diana. This is yet another way of excusing these vicious Muslims' actions—by infantilizing them.

Also as you note: there is no mention that any of these 24-28 year-olds were actually gainfully employed—although a couple of them might be "students".

Meanwhile, the victim—far more plausibly a girl herself at 22—worked as a care-giver for kids with autism and learning difficulties.

But now, Ms. Page has had to leave her job and lost her source of income, and the kids have lost their teacher.

More:

But Judge Robert Brown gave them suspended jail terms after hearing mitigation that as Muslims, the women were not used to being drunk. The Koran prohibits Muslims from consuming alcohol, although Islamic teachings permit its use for medicinal purposes.
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Talk about having it both ways! These Muslims are not being held responsible for their barbaric attack by Western justice, nor are they held culpable for drinking as they would be under Shari'ah.

No wonder Muslims are flocking to the West. Of course, back in Dar-al-Islam it might be considered a "mitigating factor" that while drunk they launched an unprovoked attack on a Kaffir.

Also, note the utter crap above about how "Islamic teachings permit its [alcohol's] use for medicinal purposes". Not as many Muslims would have it. There are Muslim medical students who are refusing to administer medications with an alcohol base—or even refusing to scrub up properly with hand-sanitizer.

More:

‘Even after the police came and they all ran away, one of them came running back to kick me in the head one last time.
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This shows both their viciousness *and* their not taking the Infidel authorities at all seriously. And given their later experiences in court, who can say they were wrong?

More:

‘I honestly think they attacked me just because I am white. I can’t think of any other reason.’
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That, and being an Infidel...

Dumbledore's Army wrote:

The idiot judge says (all sympathy for the poor dear murderous Muslimahs) - "But he said he accepted the women may have felt they were the victims of unreasonable force from Mr Moore as he tried to defend his girlfriend".
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I consider this the most shocking thing of all. This man was trying to protect his girlfriend against a vicious, unprovoked, *ongoing* attack by *four women*—and the judge calls these brutal b*tches "victims of unreasonable force".

I have heard of so many cases like this, where Britons—victims of burglary, or assault, or attempted murder—have *themselves* been prosecuted for defending themselves.

This is mad enough when dealing with common criminals—when dealing with Muslim aggression, it is utterly suicidal—something these Muslims well know, and relish.

On the issue of the conduct of the judge I will be writing to the Office for Judicial Complaints:

Office for Judicial Complaints
Steel House
11 Tothill Street
3rd Floor
3.01-3.03
London, SW1H 9LJ

On the issue of appealing against the sentence and the decision to not charge for racially aggravated assault, I will be writing to the CPS:

Keir Starmer QC
The Crown Prosecution Service
Rose Court
2 Southwark Bridge
London, SE1 9HS

I suggest all UK JWers do the same.

uk_infidel
Islam is not a religion, it's an organised crime syndicate.


Hi Traeh, you said

"If they were sober enough to deliver kicks and pull hair out and the like, then in my book they were sober enough to know they were doing wrong"

I don't think there is any evidence that the gang members were drunk at all.

Watch their actions from the beginning of the video up to the first punch. This attack was well coordinated. You can even see them signalling each other as they approach. There is no staggering or indication of 'being under the influence of alcohol'.

As a matter of fact, the first assailant makes a perfect bypass of the boyfriend to start her assault on the girlfriend.

Even if I grant that these women actually were intoxicated, the film actually shows that they could 'hold their liquor' in which case the argument for the defense evaporates. That I believe is more-or-less what you are saying.

Actually, the 'couldn't hold his liquor defense' is a crock anyway. The aboriginal populations of Canada are known to have a very low alcohol tolerance but that doesn't protect them from the Canadian justice system. If they commit a violent crime while under the influence of alcohol, they are still going to jail. Canada's justice system is based on the British model so we follow the same principles in rendering judgments.

So, the British judge was going out of his way to let these creeps walk free. On this matter you said: The judge may have been afraid. If judges in the UK are afraid of Muslims, and I'll bet a lot of them are, the UK is in deep trouble

You may be correct in why such a ludicrous decision was rendered. Even so, I have to wonder if this judge is one of those liberal left cultural relativists who think that the West shouldn't foist its moral values on another culture.

What has me suspicious about this is his half-hearted attempt to make it look like the assailants were the victims. As the article says on his ruling:

“he accepted the women may have felt they were the victims of unreasonable force from Mr. Moore as he tried to defend his girlfriend.”

Considering how many JW commenters on this news item have castigated the boyfriend for using insufficient force to defend the real victim, it is hard to understand how any judge could come to the above conclusion. In my estimation, a moral relativist could come to such a conclusion. This line of thinking is not too far removed from the argument that the West is responsible for 9/11 by defending itself from terrorism. Blaming the victim is a typical moral relativist's tactic.

I have to wonder what the logical conclusion of the judges legal determination actually is. Is he saying that defending oneself against a possible murder is something that legally allows the potential murderer to try even harder to kill you?

If so, then the UK is in bigger trouble than you think.

The video doesn't lie....the Muslim women were on a seek and destroy mission....clearly the attack was unprovoked...Infidels should walk the streets in large numbers for better security...

Bang-on, UK_Infidel. .bang-'em up, then boot 'em out. .Thanks for the addresses, will mail them tomorrow by post.

These garbage Muslim women must have promised the judge one hell of a good time to get him to dismiss the charges. Maybe they promised to drink liquor before, during and after sex?!!

Her boyfriend was absolutely pathetic - watch the video.
Any decent boyfriend would knock these slugs unconscious
in no time - he was just standing there and pushing them around, absolutely pathetic, he's constantly bending and picking up his hoodie/sweater like that was the most important thing for him at that time, what a disgrace !

uk infidel, thanks for providing all those addresses.

What strikes me on reading the Daily Mail report is Hibo Maxamed's total absence of empathy or rempentance.

Speaking at her home, Hibo Maxamed said: "I’m not proud of it, it’s not something I want to talk about. I just want to get on with my life."

When asked if she wanted to apologise, she replied: "What, to the public? I really don’t care."

Actually she does owe an apology to the British public, as crimes of this nature are considered to be committed against the whole community. Gravenimage touched on that by pointing out that a group of innocent autistic children have now lost their teacher. Lewis Moore also has to live with a traumatised woman while dealing with his own traumas, and the public purse has to fund counselling.

But far more than that, Hibo Maxamed and her kinswomen owe the apology to Rhea Page. If they still don't understand this, they haven't learned anything worthwhile from their experience in the lawcourts. Yes, I'm glad they now owe us 450 hours of voluntary work. But how does this compare with the hours of work that Rhea Page has lost?

The assailants apparently feel victimised by the fact that the "white slag" hit back. They don't seem to have noticed that, even if the attack had stopped in the instant Lewis Moore struck out, what they had done before that moment should have been enough to condemn them.

I don't believe these immature women are Muslims in any meaningful sense. They don't wear the hijab and they drink alcohol. I doubt they have ever heard of the Pact of Omar. Yet they do seem to have imbibed its spirit.

A dhimmi forfeits protection if he defends himself against a Muslim attack.

It's the good luck of Miss Page and Mr Moore that there is the video. Or they might very well have been put behind bars - not suspended - for a racist hate crime.

WhupTdue,
Thank you for that link to the video. Having watched it, I can't believe the judge said he understood how the three attackers might have felt themselves victims of unreasonable force from the boyfriend! That judge seems to be a coward or a moron. Those three devils attacked the young woman first, viciously, and they deserved to be pounded into the ground, though the boyfriend didn't do anything like that. He behaved with admirable restraint, indeed, he should have been more forceful than he was. He seems to have stopped one of the attackers with a good punch in the face, but then he left the other two alone while he attended to his girlfriend. I don't judge him at all, I might not have done as well as he did, but he probably should have beat the crap out of the other two as well, so they would stop coming back and back at the girlfriend.

Those three worthless reptiles deserve jail for at least 5 years. They behaved worse than animals. They do not belong as members of society.

I wrote the 1:59 am comment before I'd seen any video -- didn't know there was video till WhupTdu pointed it out to me. I advise people to watch the video:

http://bcove.me/boiukbqq

You'll get very angry at the three attackers. A judge who sees that video and lets those attackers off without a severe sentence deserves to be fired and disbarred from the legal profession.

The attackers, at least in the video, appear to be black, and they apparently called the victim white, not kafir, or some religious term, so this may have been as much or more a racial attack than a religious attack.

You are too hard on him, I think. He punched one of them out. I too think he should have kicked the crap out of the other two when they kept coming back and back at the girlfriend on the ground. But I think you underestimate the challenge he was facing. He had four things to attend to simultaneously: three surprise attackers all at once, and an injured girlfriend on the ground. He could well have had several motives to keep things from escalating if possible. He may have felt some ingrained habitual restraint as a male, against using violence on females. Further, if you escalate without being certain you can disable all three of the attacking women at once in short order, then you risk leaving an opening for the one or two you don't quickly stop to do serious damage to the girlfriend injured on the ground. If you are not an experienced fighter, it could be dangerous for the girlfriend injured on the ground if you escalated the fight. The attacking women were good-sized, not petite at all. He may also have been concerned about the potential to severely injure or accidentally kill one of the attackers. If you knock someone unconscious and they hit the sidewalk, they may never get up.

Looking at the video, I don't think we can judge the boyfriend. He was like a hockey player who has to play offense and goalie simultaneously, an often impossible task. He has to stick by his girlfriend to keep her from getting attacked, but he has to go on the offense at the same time to put down the attackers. An experienced fighter could probably have handled it better, but he did ok.

Okay, watched it yet again. At first there were only three, but then there were four attackers.

The boyfriend hesitated too long at first before intervening. When the four kept coming on time and again to attack the girl, he should have thrown a few more punches than he did. But I still don't judge him. He threw several good punches and did what he could in a very difficult situation he probably had no preparation for.

Those girls should go away for a long time. That judge should be severely punished himself.

Lukasz Lech,
I don't think he was bending to his sweater -- he was bending down to his girlfriend on the ground.

The judge should be bashed as Miss Page was.
If I was Miss Page I will buy a gun, drink a bottle of alcohol - drugs and go and KILL a few of them. Don't forget also to wear a full burda that is the key of success it seems.

Then if I get caught I will blame it on been under the influence of drugs and psychological distress.

PETER SHEARER,
You may be right that it was PCMC that led the judge to his decision, not cowardice and fear of Muslims -- even brutal Muslims like these, whose family and friends one might suppose to be more violent than the average Muslim, and quite capable of taking the law into their own hands.

But here's why I suspect you are wrong that the judge was merely affected by PCMC. Watching that video I was revolted by the actions of the attackers. I wanted to kill them for their sustained cruelty to and their complete lack of empathy for their victim. I can't believe the judge watched the video and was not strongly affected by the absolute ugliness and evil of the attackers' behavior. He had to have been revolted by it. I can't believe PCMC could completely erase such visceral moral revulsion and lead to such a ridiculously corrupt decision on his part. I'd guess a stronger motive, like fear, like not wanting to have to watch his back for the next few years (and then after that, too, when the b*tches got out), led to his decision? (Of course, if he sees videos of cruel and violent attacks all the time, it might not affect him anymore, in which case maybe PCMC could generate an asinine decision such as he rendered.)

Thank you for the link to the video. I hadn't seen it before I saw your comment with the link.

There were initially 3 attackers but the 4th one, who came later, was apparently too busy with her phone or didn't want to get her fingernails broken. But she did join in with some opportunistic kicks to Miss Paige. I think considering the size of these girls the boyfriend did his best to keep them off his girlfriend. If I were him I would have made sure none of attackers got off the sidewalk. But since we weren't there we can't be judgmental.

At the end it is apparent these muslimahs were trying to make themselves the victims. Specially the 4th one who kept pointing at boyfriend. I am sure if the video didn't exist these muslimahs would have tried to show that they were victimized by the two, a hate crime because they were just muslimahs minding their own business. This is so typical of muslims. they didn't realize they were being videotaped.

Now I know why justices in England still wear wigs. They wear them to disguise an intromittant shaped cranium.

Let’s see… As you’re not so average American. I absolutely blame the boyfriend for the severity of the attack. If he would have been more worried about protecting his girlfriend and not keeping his jacket on his left arm they would not have had the chance to get to her as freely. I watched the video several times. There were 3 women attackers at first. The ticker was at 10 seconds when the attack started. They attacked for 5 seconds with the boyfriend in the fray. Time stamp 15 seconds. At 16 seconds he hits an attacker. He then watches for another 8 seconds before he moves in again. He finally starts to really fight and falls down at the 37 second mark. Now he has his jacket in the crook of his left arm up until this time. He gets back up at the 40 second mark at about the 48 second mark he knocks one of the women down. He dropped his jacket at about the 39 second mark. At the 59 second mark he picks his jacket back up! His girlfriend keeps getting attacked up till the 66 second mark before he resumes his retaliation. It is at the 77 second mark that the fourth woman walks up from the right hand side of the street out of camera range. There is no fighting going on until the 80 second mark. At that mark three of the women are attacking. One is sitting on the sidewalk. At 82 seconds he falls down. At 90 seconds he is back on his feet and finally attacking in earnest. He attacks up till the 99 second mark. But!! He has his jacket in the crook of his left arm again which renders that arm basically useless. At the 111 second mark he reaches down for his girlfriend. He was doing nothing constructive for 12 seconds other than walk around. At 113 second mark an attacker kicks the girlfriend. The police show up at the 120 second mark. So the question was did the boyfriend do all he could. No. Seconds are like hours in an attack. Drop the damn jacket and fight.
As far as the punishment the attackers got. Payback is a MF. And none of those women attackers were amazons! All in all he is a dumbass. Jeez! Throw the jacket down dude and fight!
Ohh. and one more thing.. If you are getting attacked like that you have the right to use deadly force. Your life is in danger. Kill them and move on with your life.

I've done a bit of googling, and it seems the British judiciary is usually lenient with drunken brawls. Basically, people have been bashed up every weekend ever since the hours for sale of alcohol were extended, and nobody ever goes to jail.

So the leniency to the Maxamed gang was probably not about race, religion, fear of Islamic reprisals or being PC about immigrant crime. It was simply about being PC about light sentencing for assault.

Yes, it's a ludicrous contrast that Emma West was locked away for six months for a purely verbal offence. If only she'd thrown a few punches on that tram, she too would have been let off on a warning. Her rant really was despicable, and maybe a stiff cash fine would have taught her a lesson, leaving space in our overcrowded jails for people who are actually violent.

The real lessons to be learned here seem to be: (1) Return to restricting alcohol sales - Britain is not mature enough handle unrestricted drinking; (2) Continue with video surveillance, since we apparently need it; (3) Maintain a sense of proportion; (4) Take all assaults more seriously. I actually agree that community service is more appropriate than incarceration for first offenders, but how meaningless is a sentence of only twenty working days?

I don't blame Lewis Moore. He knew he would have to demonstrate in a court of law that he had used the minimum necessary force. He actually used less than the "necessary", since the assailants did not give up. However, if he had succeeded in driving them off, he would probably have been convicted of excessive force. He had to be very careful not to do any actual harm to the assailants. However, another lesson we can learn is (5) the laws that prevent us standing up for ourselves are ridiculous.

I also checked out Ambaro Maxamed's Facebook account. It seems she was born in Sweden. Not sure what this means overall (perhaps that (6) we should get ourselves out of the EU!), but it does mean she didn't grow up in Somalia.

Hi traeh. I don't see a fault in the logic of your reply so I am forced to agree with your conclusion. Even so, I will leave you with this parting thought.

There is a purpose behind Political Correctness. Its intended purpose is to act in the opposite way to its stated purpose. The stated purpose of course is to build bridges and to foster social cohesiveness. Its actual purpose it to create social tensions and division.

So we get situations where blacks in the US call each other nigger with no culpability under PC but a white person doing the same may go to jail. This situation was parodied in "Rush Hour" starring Jackie Chan. In that movie there is a scene where Chan hears the phrase "What's up my nigger" spoken by several blacks in a pool hall. He mistakenly interprets this as a standard conversation opener and tries it out with near fatal results.

Although this is a fictional account, it probably speaks accurately to what the situation is in the US since PC has arrived. PC, as applied, is a racially preferential philosophy and is as such it is a racist doctrine.

In today's Jihad Watch story we have that example played out for real. The Somali gang threw racial epithets and potential death threats at a white person but faced no consequences. But in fact, there are consequences: the victim and those close to her now realize that the 'system' has betrayed her by ignoring its 'Social Contract' to protect her and avenge her.

We in the West gave up our rights to carry weapons for self defense and for vengeance and in return the Western governments took over the responsibility of bringing transgressors to justice.

If there are enough cases where our courts turn their backs on this 'Social Contract' there is bound to be violence given enough time.

The judge has to know this. Perhaps that is what he ultimately wants.

In my view, the left is intentionally using PC to destabilize our society. Why would they do that? Simple, they are following the directives set out by Saul Alinsky in his book Rules for Radicals. As he says under rules of tactics:

The fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity

So what purpose can following this rule serve? Well, one possibility is to convince us over time that our Democratic system is broken and must be fixed. When we finally come to that conclusion who do you think will be waiting in the wings to save the day? You guessed it, the leftists. You can bet that giving these buggers a free hand will be a disaster for us all. As Alinsky himself said about the fourth rule You can kill them with this.

Peter, you've made some seriously fantastic comments here. I applaud you.

Also, your using the term 'Social Contract' makes me think you're at least aware of and maybe read Jean-Jacques Rousseau's political tract 'The Social Contract'? If so, we are kindred spirits.

I quote the following from this text (Book II, Chapter 5):

"Moreover, since every wrongdoer attacks the society's law, he becomes by his deed a rebel and a traitor to the nation; by violating its law, he ceases to be a member of it; indeed, he makes war against it. And in this case, the preservation of the state is incompatible with *his* preservation; one or the other must perish; and when the guilty man is put to death, it is less as a citizen than as an enemy. Trial and judgement are the proof and declaration that he has broken the social treaty, and is in consequence no longer a member of the state. And since he has accepted such membership, if only by his residence, he must either be banished into exile as a violator of the social pact or be put to death as a public enemy; such an enemy is not a fictitious person, but a man, and therefore the right of war makes it legitimate to kill him."

People

I have just waded through the 1000+ comments at the Daily Mail article.

It was most instructive.

And what was particularly interesting was the number of Muslims who posted comments, claiming to be sooo shocked! shocked!, and proclaiming earnestly that Islam doesn't condone this kind of mob violence or attacks on 'innocent people'...ROFLMAO...nobody asks them to define 'innocent'....they can tell that one to the Copts, the Hindus, the Indonesian Christians, the Assyrian Christians, the Nigerian Christians...

I can only conclude that, sensing the mood of the assembled kuffar growing less accommodating, the Muslims are rushing to try to put people back to sleep

Definitely DDA. It's the good old Islamic trick of get-out-there-and-give-the-kuffar-a-good-dose-of-taqiyya treatment. More and more people are waking up to this garbage and seeing Islam for what it really is: a totalitarian ideology that compels its followers to hate, murder and kill those who aren't part of it.

Where is my comment from yesterday? Don't tell me Jihad Watch deleted it in case it gave offence to those lovely Muslims.

Her boyfriend needs to be trained in Aikido.

Frankly, had the victim's boyfriend beaten up a couple of the attackers (providing he was capable of doing so), some liberal lawyer would've had a field day prosecuting him for being racist and misogynist--and the MSM would have hung him out to dry, too.

Also, the pompous, self-righteous, woolly-headed jackass on the British bench reported here isn't just a problem in the UK. We've got our share of them in the USA, including some who would gladly strip a lot of Americans of their First Amendment rights. If we ever succeed in taking back our countries, one of our first orders of business ought to be a purge of the judicial bench.

Tom,

Your time line assessments of the actual crime scene, are spot on. How about the crime committed in the court room by the presiding Muslim apologist?

Some people think this was just a drunken brawl. Drunken brawl implies a bunch of hooligans all fairly equally culpable fight for no justifiable reason. The evidence suggests that this was not the case. Brawl isn't really the word you use when a group of people attack one person, with no provocation. There is no evidence of any provocation, and there is no evidence that the victims used excessive force in trying to defend themselves.

There is also no evidence, from what I've seen, that the attackers were all intoxicated, as they claimed. I would want to see blood alcohol levels reported for each of them in order to assess this claim. Yet if they were intoxicated, then they should have been charged for that as well (drunk and disorderly, etc.), not just for the extended assault where they attempted to cause the maximum damage to the victim.

To kick someone in the head, when you have no weapons and it is just physical combat, is to use the maximum amount of percussive force that you have against the most vulnerable and vital part of the person you are striking. A kick delivers far more force than a punch. A single kick to the head, not even with full force, can cause death either immediately or days later due to hemorrhaging of the brain. The maximum force you can generate with a kick to someone's head is when you are standing up and their head is on or near the ground (think of a soccer ball). That's exactly what these young women did to the victim in this case, and they did so deliberately, repeatedly, persistently, and they continued to do so even when the police were present.

There is no reason to suppose that these four women did not know how much damage a kick in the head can do. Someone who is just trying to rough you up is probably not going to kick you in the head, certainly not repeatedly, and certainly not when you are on the ground and they are standing--the position where they can get maximum leverage and force. Someone who kicks you in the head when you are on the ground is either trying to kill or permanently disable you and destroy your life, or is out of control and doesn't care if you die or if your life is destroyed due to massive injury to the brain. The idea that someone can intentionally kick someone else in the head and not know that this action could kill or permanently disable the victim is simply not plausible. These women knew what they were doing, the action was prepared in advance, they announced their intention to murder the victim, and throughout the episode they acted exactly like they wanted to murder the victim and did not stop until the police finally, reluctantly, stopped them from doing so. Had the victim's boyfriend not defended her, and had the police arrived any later, the victim could easily have been killed.

I would not at all be surprised if this victim has suffered, and continues to suffer, from brain injuries from the physical force of the kicks, besides the emotional trauma of the event which persists.

Diana,

You write: "So the leniency to the Maxamed gang was probably not about race, religion, fear of Islamic reprisals or being PC about immigrant crime. It was simply about being PC about light sentencing for assault."

We are dealing here in this case with more than just a leftish-PC attitude toward sentencing criminals. You are saying the "leniency" was due to "PC," and not about race or religion. But in this case the "PC" was explicitly and admittedly about religion, i.e., disproportionate and ludicrously inappropriate defense of Islam and Muslim perpetrators at the expense of non-Muslim victims and civil (non-Muslim) society generally.

As to whether the leniency was about a PC view of race (i.e., where whites are always wrong and bad and non-whites are always right and good), we don't know, but we certainly can't say that it "probably" wasn't. Had this been four white women attempting to kill a black woman in the U.K., whilst telegraphing their intention to "kill the black sl--!", I think it is likely the outcome would have been different. Ditto if it were four non-Muslims attacking a Muslim.

I finally had a chance to watch the video. Several things struck me:

When the ambulance arrives, one of the attackers was able to get close enough to the victim to kick her again *by going up to the ambulance*. I don't know what she said, but my guess is she posed as a concerned passerby, *rather than one of the assailants*. This is why the EMTs initially seem unconcerned with her close presence.

Moreover, the assailants *continue* to prevent the EMTs from treating the victim. This may have led to her further injury—it *might even have led to her death*.

The judge didn't even *mention* that aspect of it.

By the way, I don't blame the boyfriend, either. How many of us would do better if suddenly attacked on a dark street by a horde of Muslim thugs? Some of us would do better, no doubt—and likely many of us considerably worse.

I put the blame where it belongs—on these vicious Muslimahs, and on the dhimmi courts for sending the message that you can get away with such savagery in Britain today with *very few consequences*.

By the way, after watching the video, the judge's claim that

"the women may have felt they were the victims of unreasonable force from Mr Moore as he tried to defend his girlfriend"

could not be more grotesque. Lewis Moore is thrown to the ground several times by their assailants, while they dance around him and attack his girlfriend.

One more thing—Muslims trying to prevent treatment of victims is a *very common* Jihad tactic.

In attacks on Copts in Egypt, Muslims prevented ambulances from reaching the victims—the same happened in Pakistan with Christian victims. Both in Dar-al-Islam and here in the West, Muslims have even followed the victims into hospitals to prevent their receiving treatment.

Hi efoc, thank you for your kind words.

You asked: Also, your using the term 'Social Contract' makes me think you're at least aware of and maybe read Jean-Jacques Rousseau's political tract 'The Social Contract'?

Yup. I am a Canadian and teaching French was taken seriously by my High School. Almost all its French teachers were Sorbonne graduates. They not only taught us to speak French but also to think French. They also made sure that we read many of the French classics in the original. Rousseau's Social Contract was among them.

So, your 'kindred spirit' thought may be correct.

I definitely enjoyed the inclusion of the relevant passage from this work in your reply. I am almost 100% in agreement with it but I do have strong reservations about Rousseau's stand on executing traitors. Those who do something that can be shown to severely endanger the state, such as Klaus Fuchs or the Rosenbergs, are fair game, but those in the liberal left whom we typify as useful idiots are committing treason but for the most part they are committing 'thought crimes'.

Also, many of them have been sucked in by the liberal left academia who have taken over our Universities in recent decades. They have indoctrinated the useful idiots and made them what they are and we let it happen. So, we are to blame to a certain extent for this phenomenon.

In some respects, we should have a certain amount of compassion for the useful idiots because they haven't been taught how to analyze properly and think logically. They also haven't been trained to think morally or behave morally even though they may characterize themselves as being moral and ethical.

They have been trained to be a tool for certain elements of our society who would like nothing better than to bring it down in order to make it conform to their own agendas.


By the way, it might have been appropriate for you to quote the most famous line from the Social Contract: "Man was born free and he is everywhere in chains."

If we aren't careful, we all may end up in chains once again.


Anyway, thanks for your comments efok. Talk to ya soon.

Kinana, I'm not disputing your definition of a brawl. I agree that what we saw in the video was an assault and not a brawl.

The problem is that whenever a "brawl" goes to trial, it's because there was enough evidence to charge someone with assault, i.e., it is not a "brawl" at all. Nevertheless, these assaults are trivialised with the "brawl" label, and the outcome is nearly always that nobody is punished.

Judge Brown suspended the sentence for these women because their barrister pleaded religion & etc. However, the reality is that in similar cases over the last five years, the judge has nearly always accepted some reason or other to suspend the sentence. Judge Brown's other reason for leniency was that "Mr Moore defended himself" and this might have upset the assailants. I don't think that plea had anything to do with religion, although it was possibly related to gender. I think Judge Brown's ruling was despicable, but the sad truth is, it's typical of the despicable rulings that other judges have given in similar cases.

What would have happened if four white women had attacked a black one? I don't know until I uncover such a case. My guess is that if nobody reported on the words used, and if alcohol had been involved, they too would have been exonerated. If they had used distinctively racist lanugae, however, the Emma West precedent suggests that they would have been severely punished.

The current trend seems to be that hateful words are a more serious crime than violent deeds. This is actually an Islamic value, not a Western one. We could certainly ask how this understanding of morality has crept into our assumptions.

Diana,

What concerns me most here is the announcement of the intent to kill, in the context of actions that are either meant to cause death or, at minimum, permanent brain damage. The "hateful words" are upsetting, but that's not my priority concern here. I do not think trash talking and calling someone a "white sl--" etc., rises to the level of something that should be outlawed. It's trash-talking, which is not illegal. Death threats and orders to kill are illegal. The actions--repeated and persistent kicks to the head--plus the announcement of the intent to kill--indicates attempted murder. These women should be behind bars or deported. They are dangerous, a menace to society.

You write: "However, the reality is that in similar cases over the last five years, the judge has nearly always accepted some reason or other to suspend the sentence."

Some reason or other may or may not be valid in these other cases. But we know that the absurd appeal to Islam in this case is not valid, at least not in a sane world.

We are dealing here with a case where a woman may have been easily killed had others not stopped the attackers, and the judge lets them off on the basis of some bizarre irrelevant and unsubstantiated nonsense about Islam and alcohol tolerance levels? This is stark raving madness.

reply @ toastandmarmalade [i]From looking at the video I suspect that the boyfriend was too drunk to defend his girlfriend properly...coupled with the state brainwashed fear of hurting/offending "minorities."[/i]

No excuse.  Agree with Łukasz Lech and Tom Bennett on this.  Not to "toot my own horn" if anybody, let alone WOMEN, attacked my wife I would be hitting so hard the "they keep coming" and "your outnumbered" situation would be a non-issue as each in turn wouldn't recover.  Pound for pound a man is significantly stronger than a women even without training.  That situation is no time for half measures or concerns about self-preservation... would happily go to gaol for it as well.

Having said that A) He was surprised and B) outnumbered and C) possibly drunk?  So credit to him for doing anything at all.  Guys just need to be mentally prepared ahead of time that if X happens you will do Y so you don't have to think when X does happen you just do Y.  No martial arts or combat training is required to have this type of protective attitude.  Also, its not his fault, blame still lies with the attackers and the judge.

Regarding self-defence bias in the UK.   I tend to think the USA has the right idea with their 2nd amendment (and of course the wonderful 1st amendment).  The US courts tend to make more sense in cases of self-defence.  Most recent article I read a guy caught someone stealing his TV and XBOX, he confronted him, thief pulled a knife, guy takes the knife and stabs the thief with it.  Thief in hospital no charges laid against the home owner.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114555-Thief-Attempts-to-Steal-Xbox-360-Instigates-Knife-Fight-Loses

That's reasonable - no charges laid, thief got what he deserved.

Bosch, thank you for sharing your beautiful portrait of Rhea Page.

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