Mohammad Shafia has previously said: "I would do it again 100 times"; "May the devil shit on their graves. Is that what a daughter should be? Would a daughter be such a whore?" And "God's curse on them for generations. ... They betrayed Islam."
"Shafias all found guilty of first-degree murder," by Timothy Appleby for the Globe and Mail, January 29 (thanks to Mark):
Three Afghan-Canadians charged with murdering four relatives in a so-called "honour killing" have been convicted on all charges.The verdict was reached shortly after 1 pm Sunday afternoon and delivered about an hour later to a packed courtroom.
In all, the seven-woman, five-man jury had deliberated just over 15 hours, spread over two days, sequestered on the second floor of the historic Frontenac County Court House in downtown Kingston.
Tooba Mohammad Yahya, husband Mohammad Shafia and son Hamed Mohammed Shafia are escorted to court in Kinston last month.
A police officer stands outside the Frontenac County Courthouse, where Mohammad Shafia, his wife Tooba Mohammad Yahya and their son Hamed were undergoing trial for the murder of four family members, in Kingston, Ontario January 26, 2012.
The defendants face an automatic penalty of life imprisonment with no chance of parole for at least 25 years.
There have been other murder charges involving so-called "honour killings" – homicides of women slain out of a perverse desire to "purify" families of disgrace created by supposedly immoral conduct – but not on this scale, and not involving parents who were willing to wipe out half their family for the sake of their honour, and then lie about it.
Charged with four counts of first-degree murder were businessman Mohammad Shafia, 59, his second wife Tooba Mohammad Yahya, 42, and their eldest son, Hamed, 21.
They stood accused of drowning sisters Zainab, Sahar and Geeti Shafia, aged 19, 17 and 13, whose bodies were found in a submerged car at a Rideau Canal lock, just east of Kingston, in June, 2009.
The fourth person in the vehicle was Mr. Shafia’s first wife, Rona Amir Mohammad, 53, who had entered Canada illegally, posing as his cousin, but who in fact was part of a polygamous marriage and who by every indication wanted to escape from it.
All three defendants briefly addressed the court and proclaimed their innocence in what Mr. Justice Robert Maranger described as a “heinous crime.”
“We are not criminal, we are not murderer, we didn't commit the murder and this is unjust,” Mr. Mohammad said through a translater.
Ms.Yahya responded: “Your honourable justice, this is not just. I am not a murderer, and I am a mother, a mother.”
Their son said, in English: “Sir, I did not drown my sisters anywhere.”
But the judge was unmoved.
“You have each been convicted of the planned and deliberate murder of four members of your family...(A verdict) clearly supported by the evidence presented at this trial,” said Judge Maranger.
“It is difficult to conceive of a more despicable, more heinous crime...the apparent reason behind these cold-blooded, shameful murders was that the four completely innocent victims offended your completely twisted concept of honour ... that has absolutely no place in any civilized society.”...
After what happened between Libya and Scotland, one has to wonder how long it will be before the father (who is almost sixty) will be released for 'humanitarian' reasons.
How long before the wife and son are diagnosed with 'terminal' illness, necessitating their release?
A proper verdict even after threats and a bomb scare. Way to go Canada!
Good deal. It shows Canadians are not falling for this bulls!!t muslims as so good at telling kuffars about their beliefs.
What the MSM in Canada did was to purge some of the overt Bigotry by the Males when they spewed the disdain and hatred for the Daughter's choice of a canadian boy friend
that was from a Pakistani background.
During the trial there were several times the Males called her boy friend a Paki , this because of the Super-Race mind set where Islam has muslims that see Arabs as the true followers of Muhammed and islam.
Gee, what are the odd for another honour killing by a guy named Muhammed and yet CAIR will rush in to claim that islam "Had Nothing to do with the murders".
Right now on CFRB 1010 we have Tarek Fatah disecting this case about islamic racism in the west.
The show runs from 3:00 - 4:00pm est.
Mr. Spencer:
I am so relieved that these evil people will be locked up for 25 years.
Let's remember the four beautiful women who lost their life to their hands. So sad!
And when those lowlifes come out, they should be sent packing to the place they came from where they can indulge in sharia to their hearts content.
Hooray for Canada!
I urge all Canadians to email their MPs to demand that Canada's official policy of multi-kulturalism be rescinded.
What savages and liars; and in one statement MrMuhammad is quoted as saying that he would do "it" 100 more times, and that these women were whores, but then later claims that his sentence is unjust. Whatever, liar.
"...completely twisted concept of honour" said the judge. Huh-uh. Such a twisted concept emanates effortlessly from Islam. Many twisted concepts do.
Did I get this straight? life imprisonment with no chance of parole for at least 25 years. Up is down. The man-child Hamed, will be ripe and ready for murder again when he's out of prison at about age 46. The wife/bimbo was probably brain washed into partaking, and the, whatever he is, can't speak English, is a polygamist and murderer. Oh Canada!
YES!
So proud to be a Canadian today. Excellent work by the police, the lawyers, the witnesses and the jury. First degree was really the only sensible verdict in this case.
The Shafia family lied and lied, and maintained a supremacist attitude throughout the trial. They apparently thought they were much smarter than the stupid Canuck kafirs. I guess the insufferable Mohammad Shafia and his "second wife" Tooba Mohammad Yahya don't feel so superior now.
So what will Canada do so these honor killings will not happen here in North America AGAIN? Yes I thought so. NOTHING.
This has nothing to do with Islam. It's just a random domestic incident that could happen to any family, anywhere. Quakers and Methodists do this kind of thing all the time. And if you don't believe me, just read the papers tomorrow. I'm sure they'll confirm everything I say.
Hit it, judge, jury,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqTiA_LyV3k
At least this verdict sends something of a message to the mahometan world that such activities will NOT be tolerated in Harbiland. They can [further] foul their islamic stinkholes with their disgusting traditions but they should think twice about bringing them here.
I'm hoping that the father's abundant resources will be tapped in some sort of wrongful-death lawsuit on behalf of the victims, although I can't imagine who besides the *original* wife's family and his other remaining children would have standing. The other kids will be supported by the government, watch and see.
Yes and apparently the youngest girl told a school teacher that she wanted to get into foster care. The teacher for some reason did not accomplish this. "FAIL"
"God's curse on them for generations. ...
How many "generations" will the dead childless daughter beget??
Their hatred blinds them to even the simplest realities of nature...
I would have preferred capital punishment. But Canada doesn't have that. The thing to remember is that the 25 years is the minimum. The automatic. The judge can't sentence below the twenty five.
:) so those jerks get to be Canadian tax payers' guests for 25 years each. Does anyone know whether we have a provision for using the family assets to pay for their 'stay'? I thought we did have that but I'm not sure.
Pm@pm.gc.ca !!!!!!
Pm@pm.gc.ca !!!!!!
Or even better!!:
(your MP's name)
Member of Parliament
House of Commons
Ottawa Ontario
K1A 0A6
No Stamp Required!
Save these addresses to your Blackberry or whatever you use.
"They betrayed Islam." - Mohammad Shafia
Yeah, that about covers it, Shafia.
Essentially, after a lifetime of studiously studying the Islamic texts, Shafia decided that it was best to "purify" the members of his family who fell short of what Muhammad's sick cult of Islam demands of them...
We ex-Muslims know that Islam is the exact opposite of what it claims to be.
BTW
Don't get your hopes up because under canada's "Lite" ..I mean "Life" (Typo) sentence there is a clause at the 15 year mark to petition for paroll under section 175 ( or close to that number) of the Code .
The law was changed to include a "Faint-Hope" clause for someone guilty but was a border case for a one-off and that after 15 years they may have changed while in Prison and no longer a threat to Society.
But there is a 90% + rate for repeaters for the normal early release panel that OK's these thugs as long as they aren't released into Their Wealthy/white/liberal/leftist/elite neighbourhoods to commit crimes or murder THEIR kids.
I'm watching for CAIR-canada to excuse away this conviction and spin it into a racism by the jury or islamophobia for linking these murders to islam because someone outside the Courtroom ranted at how they were innocent , the same Court that closed down last week because of a Bomb-Threat by an unknown person( no doubt a filthy infidel trying to smear islam) that called it in.
This is why canada must raise the bar for Immigrant and the Bogus-Refugees from islamic hell-holes where they claim to flee violence as a muslim, and yet they did squat
all the time they saw jews and Christians being oppressed in their homeland.
No more pro-hamas Palestinians using Palestine-House in Mississauga to aid in their Citizenship fraud to use their Address as their Home while they fly back to gaza and support Hamas or murder gays in public and use children as Suicide-Bombers.
I really thought that canada had learned from the Sikh Terrosits that slaughtered 240 canadians because of their past battles back home that were brought here in the guise of Multiculturalism thanks to the Liberals and leftists .
The PC memorial Plaques palce across canada in the areas where the victims lived where purged of any gulit for the actual terrosist bombers that used canada to plot blowing-up 3 Airplanes and loaded the boms on planes in canada set to go off at 35'000 feet over the Atlantic and hide the evidence in the ocean bed.
Now the Muslim get a special dispendsation for murders and the PC media and CBC link the murders to Domestic Violence because if they told the truth it would ruin the CBC's demonizing of israel and the jews since the CBC has taken sides with Hamas and see gazan as vitims no matter how much of islam and shariah gets children, gays and females murdered by this Muslim brotherhood death-cult to rule the World one day as the giofted Super-R
Typo, not sure what happened but my last tag was
Rule the World one day as the gifted Super-Race.
Not sure where to put this, but pertinent to muslim crime:
Update on muslim rapist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0F8VtOPPdDo
"... that has absolutely no place in any civilized society.”
Lets say it again shall we: "... that has absolutely no place in any civilized society.”
Thank you for posting, ala sux.
It damn sure is an ugly state of Islamic affairs currently going down in Canada my freind...
What would you like us to do?
Canada has given a clear message today, that barbaric acts such as this will not be tolerated. It's not as if anyone can tell in advance when a muslim patriarch is going to have "sudden honour killing syndrome"!
It is unfortunate that no-one listened to these women when they complained of abuse, and claimed to fear their father/husband. Society did fail to protect them, hampered by political correctness and fear of giving offense.
Hopefully, due to the amount of press coverage this case has received, more people will be aware that such incidents really do occur in Canada. Perhaps next time they will help the victims before they are killed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9v_GkSBrBA&list=UUgXf_LgRVLJHfg7fG7pKYCQ&index=3&feature=plcp
Check out his pathetic video from outside the Court where hecklers from islam mock the trial and say it was all lies.
The Joe interviews to leftist stooges where one is a muslim with Afghan parents and he asserts that he NEVER heard of Honour killings or any such thing in the afghan/muslim community.
Watch for his excusing away of future Jihad and honour killlings because Toronto's mayor Rob Ford cut funding to
muslim groups for the new comers from Afganistan, he's bent on ranting that MORE Government money is needed to educate Muslims once they are inside of canada.
No Sir......the answer is to STOP these 12th century
misogynistic/homphobes from entering canada because we can't afford the massive prisons to house the pro-Shariah/pro-hamas islmic-supremacy thugs coming to canada for the freedom to kill their females relatives.
Note how this guy supports my claims that CAIR lies about the racism and anti-muslim bigotry from the Muslim Poverty and high unemployment among hios people, he also calls himself a Afghani first and speaks in the 3rd person for his Citizenship as being born here in canada.
I love the part where this know-it-all punk is asked if he has ever been to Afghan....he says no, but that didn't stop him from trying to label the Crown as an islamophobe or the Judge who spoke of candian values . The punk said these were Universal values in all nation , I guess he hasn't been to Iran or Saudi Arabia either because his dizzt sidekick female there should go on the hajj with him and risk being flogged by those Universal-values un der Whahhabism.
Maybe take in the lovely tourist attractions in gaza and see the hamas Memorials with pictures of the marytyrs that were suicide-bomers slaughtering children for allah's cause which is another Univesal-value.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Mr. Justice Robert Maranger, jury and prosecution team!!
Thank you for seeing to it that justice was served for those poor women whose only crime was wanting to be free Canadians. All your hard work and perserverance is very much appreciated!! This guilty verdict is the best news I have heard all week.
Now, if only the Prime Minister would crack down hard on muzlum immigration. This is a huge part of the problem we in Canada face and such a crackdown would put a huge damper on cases like this happening here to begine with.
The Canadians are sensible people. Good verdict. I only wonder why on CNN they keep emphasising that the girls didn't live according to Afghan tradition. This isn't an Afghan problem but an Islamic one. No matter were the Mahoundians come from, they're always obsessed with honour and other crap.
To plan and murder three daughters/sisters and then continue to be defiantly proud of it, is beyond human understanding.
Please note, they are ELIGIBLE to apply for parole after 25 years, they do not automatically get it. It is highly unlikely any of them will be paroled.
Interesting video and comment, ala sux.
Listening to that clueless and/or deceptive young Muslim guy in the video prove that even so-called educated Muslims are incapable of questioning the supposed truth of Muhammad's sick cult of Islam and its many accompanying evils.
Muslims will seemingly always be in denial of being in denial...
French Montreal Newspaper, La Presse, was allowed to publish an article yesterday, after the jury had been sequestered. A journalist went to Afghanistan and interviewed Tooba Yahya's sister, Soraya. The most revealing passage is:
French:
Peut-on tuer au nom de l'honneur? ai-je demandé.
Oui, a répondu Soraya. Si quelqu'un commet un acte odieux, il mérite d'être éliminé.
Les Afghans ont raison de tuer au nom de l'honneur, a ajouté le fils de Soraya, Hamed. Il faut à tout prix respecter l'honneur.»
Translation:
Can we kill in the name of honor? I asked.
Yes, answered Soraya. If somebody commits an odious act, he deserves to be eliminated.
Afghans are right to kill in the name of honor, added Soraya's son Hamed. Honor must be respected at all costs.
The complete article (in French):
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/actualites/dossiers/proces-shafia/201201/27/01-4490285-proces-shafia-la-soeur-de-tooba-yahya-se-confie.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_hotTopics_sujets-a-la-une_1664122_accueil_POS1
hand out the candy!
To their pathetic, dying breath the MSM will do ANYTHING to protect islam from being linked with all these reprehensible acts.
I know, I know, none of this makes sense. We who still possess our powers of observation and our common sense know that islam and Mohammed's example ARE the root causes of ALL of the muslim blood lust.
All we can do is carry on the good fight of providing accurate, truthful information about islam. Examples abound that the leftist MSM will not do that. Our job, as I see it, is to bring the truth to the uninformed.
The fourth "guilty!" in Doonesbury's cartoon can be applied to or associated with mohammed..A name all of them have adopted in one spelling or another..I don't think Millhaven has halal food..Read the Whig Standard (Canada's oldest paper) for local news..
http://www.thewhig.com/
I work and live in Seoul, South Korea where a story such as this gets little coverage and attention, neither in Korean or English language publications. I do have CNN through my local cable TV provider. CNN has been covering the past few days of the trial and I've watched it more or less intently. Ofcourse I have known about the case for some time through sites like JW, BMI, etc. Can any of you who might have also watched CNN's reporting on this horrific case recall any mention of islam or muslims? I just read CNN's online article on the guilty finding of the three family members, ah, monsters, and no mention of islam or muslims there, either. Hmmmm.
Does the faint-hope clause still exist?
Yeah make that the first.in Trudeau's cartoon too..(oh the tragic irony)..You all remember Pierre Trudeau right?..
Margaret!! Justin!! Help these poor (cult)ural enrichers!
There seems to be a possibility that, sentence served, they could be deported.
See article from another Canadian press outlet, here (read down toward the end of the article).
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/canada-in-afghanistan/Shafia+jury+finds+guilty+cold+blooded+shameful+murders/6069519/story.html
"Once the Shafias complete their prison sentences, they are likely to be deported to Afghanistan, according to a lawyer and former Canadian immigration officer.
Raj Sharma, who practices in a large Calgary law firm that specializes in immigration cases, said the Canadian government temporarily suspends removals to some countries where there are natural disasters or war that put people at risk, but those provisions don’t apply to the Shafias.
“They would be removed to Afghanistan,” Sharma said, in a telephone interview from Calgary. “The temporary suspension of removals doesn’t help them.”
'He pointed to a section of the Immigration Act that provides that anyone who is convicted of a serious crime is not subject to the temporary suspensions.
'“We deport people to Sudan and Somalia and other hellholes including Haiti and we would deport to Afghanistan as well,” said Sharma, **who also is an advocate of tough punishment for honour crimes.** {my emphasis - dda. This suggests that he is all in favour of the deportation to 'hell holes', of those who have well and truly shown that they do not appreciate Canada nor deserve to remain there - dda}.
'His uncle {he comes from a Sikh family; there are 'honour' murders among Sikhs occasionally, though not anywhere NEAR the scale and frequency of the 'honour' murders that happen among Muslims - dda} was murdered 21 years ago in a shocking triple slaying that appears to have been the biggest honour killing on record in Canada, until now.
“This honour killing thing is kind of sensitive for me,” Sharma said. “These sort of male oriented, patriarchal cultures are especially susceptible, no matter how much they try to deny it or diminish it.”
Mr Sharma is making no excuses here, certainly not for Islam nor for any other culture that has borrowed from Islam or else independently invented the idea that a man's 'honor' depends on his having and being perceived to have absolute mastery over female chattels, with the right to kill at will.
Good on Mr Sharma.
And I encourage all Canadians here present to start campaigning for the deportation of the Shafias, as soon as their sentence is served.
A very useful little article by 'Spengler', on the subject of the paradigm that underlies Sharia, and why the beating of wives (as commanded in the Koran) points to a mindset that makes the man in a Muslim household judge, juror and executioner over his female chattels.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LE25Ak01.html
Wife-beating, sharia, and Western law
By Spengler
"More than the Koran's sanction of wife-beating, the legal grounds on which the Koran sanctions it reveals an impassable gulf between Islamic and Western law.
'The sovereign grants inalienable rights to every individual in Western society, of which protection from violence is foremost.
'Every individual stands in direct relation to the state, which wields a monopoly of violence.
'Islam's legal system is radically different: the father is a "governor" or "administrator" of the family, that is, a little sovereign within his domestic realm, with the right to employ violence to control his wife and children.
'That is the self-understanding of modern Islam spelled out by Muslim-American scholars - and it is incompatible with the Western concept of human rights.
'Nowhere to my knowledge has a Muslim religious authority of standing repudiated wife-beating as specified in Surah 4:32 of the Koran, for to do so would undermine the foundations of Muslim society.
'**By extension, the power of the little sovereign of the family can include the killing of wayward wives and female relations.** {my emphasis - dda}
'Execution for domestic crimes, often called "honor killing", is not mentioned in the Koran, but **the practice is so widespread in Muslim countries - the United Nations Population Fund estimates an annual toll of 5,000 - that it is recognized in what we might term Islamic common law.** {my emphasis - dda}
'Muslim courts either do not prosecute so-called honor killings, or prosecute them more leniently than other crimes. Article 340 of Jordan's penal code states, "He who discovers his wife or one of his female relatives committing adultery and kills, wounds, or injures one of them, is exempted from any penalty." Syria imposes only a two-year prison sentence for such killings. Pakistan forbids them but rarely punishes them.'...
It goes on from there, with further interesting observations, and a thought-provoking contrast with the very different paradigm that underlies Jewish and Christian thinking about family and society and the state.
I think it might be worthwhile for Canadian jihadwatchers to send copies of Mr Spengler's little article, with their compliments, to Mr Justice Robert Maranger, to the lead prosecutor Mr Gerard Laarhuis, and Staff-Sgt Chris Scott, who headed the investigation. Tell them that much, much more was at stake in this trial than even they have managed to articulate.
What was going on in this court in Canada was a massive clash between two utterly antithetical ways of understanding God, humanity, society and government. The western way, and the Muslim way. Between our law, under which all human beings have a right to life and are equal before the law, and the mindset produced by sharia, according to which women and non-Muslims are mandated to be inferior beings, requiring to be ruled - and punished at will and at whim - by the superior beings, Muslim males.
Within a Muslim political entity - in, say, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia or Iran or Egypt (see Nonie Darwish on honor murder in Egypt, in her book on Sharia, 'Cruel and Usual Punishment') or anywhere else where Islam dominates, - a murder like that of the four Shafia females would not even have been, strictly speaking, regarded as a murder, but as a completely justifiable execution of wrongdoers. There is no way that the murderers - the father, the brother, the second wife - would have suffered any serious punishment either from the Authorities nor from their mosque or from their social circle. It is perfectly probable that it would never even have come to a trial; it would have passed as an 'accident' (nod, wink, nudge) and been covered up, and all memory of the four women would have been erased, as if they had never been.
Judge Robert Maranger said:
“It is difficult to conceive of a more despicable, more heinous crime...the apparent reason behind these cold-blooded, shameful murders was that the four completely innocent victims offended your completely twisted concept of honour ... that has absolutely no place in any civilized society.”...
...........................
Judge Maranger is right—this Islamic barbarity has *absolutely* no place in a civilized society.
Good verdict from Canada.
The limp CBC had to put up a poll inquiring if Canadians agreed with the verdict, as if you know, people might not support it. Anyway, 93.61% agree with the verdict so far.
Question: Who are the 6% who don't agree with what Judge Maranger said: “It is difficult to conceive of a more despicable, more heinous crime...the apparent reason behind these cold-blooded, shameful murders was that the four completely innocent victims offended your completely twisted concept of honour ... that has absolutely no place in any civilized society."
As to the 6%, who is that low and empty?
I clicked on the link and read the whole article at the Globe and Mail.
It includes a truly astonishing story from the non-Muslim female, one Barb Jagger, who shared a cell with the female murderer, Mrs Yahya, and who demonstrates to us just how important it is to impress upon all residents of dar al harb, the fact that MUSLIMS LIE, and that their lying is sanctioned - even prescribed - by their cult, should they deem it necessary to protect themselves and/ or fellow Muslims and/ or the Ummah at large, from any perceived threat.
I quote:
"Among the regulars was Kingston resident Barb Jagger, 52, who for a couple of weeks shared a cell with Ms. Yahya in the segregation block of Quinte Detention Centre, west of Kingston.
"She recalls her cellmate as quiet, pleasant and evidently deeply religious. She would pray five times a day, Ms. Jagger said, and often read the Koran.
{And that, my dear Ms Jagger, is precisely why Mrs Yahya could murder her perceived-to-be-rebellious and potentially-apostasising daughters, without even blinking and probably in the glow of a blissfully clear conscience. As for the business about her being 'quiet, pleasant, and evidently deeply religious' - how often have we heard those exact same words, or something along those lines, used to describe this or that jihad plotter whether failed or successful? Ms Jagger obviously didn't study enough Shakespeare in school. or she'd have known that 'A man may smile, and smile, and smile, and be a villain', nor enough Chaucer, for if she had she'd have known about the phenomenon of 'the smyler with the knyf under the cloke'...dda}.
'Ms. Yahya denied murdering anybody, Ms. Jagger said.
"Sure. Mrs Yahya didn't *murder* anybody; because she doesn't regard the righteous removal from this world of deemed-insufficiently-islamic females, as 'murder', but as the performance of a justified and justifiable execution! - dda}.
“She looked me in the eyes, she had tears streaming down her face, and she said to me: 'Barb, I didn't bring seven children into this world just to kill them.'" END QUOTE.
Ms Jagger, you have been had. SUCKER!
Muslims lie. Muslims lie. Muslims lie...as this trial has demonstrated, ad nauseam.
I would encourage Canadian jihadwatchers to consider sending, not only to Mr Justice Robert Maranger, to the lead prosecutor Mr Gerard Laarhuis, and to Staff-Sgt Chris Scott, but also to the editors of each major Canadian newspaper, and to each of the journalists and columnists who covered this trial (especially those who showed a glimmer of understanding, or of worry, about Islam), at least one if not all of Mr Raymond Ibrahim's excellent articles on Taqiyya and Kitman, Muslim deception.
You can always mention, in your covering letter, that Mr Ibrahim is the son of Coptic refugees from Islamic Egypt, and that he speaks and reads fluent colloquial Arabic, and that he is the author of 'The Al Qaeda Reader', in which he exposed the complete disjunction between what Al Q said in English to the West, and what they said in Arabic to their fellow Muslims.
Here are the links; you can click, go to the articles, and print them off as required.
http://www.meforum.org/2095/islams-doctrines-of-deception
Islam's doctrines of deception
by Raymond Ibrahim , as originally published in 'Jane's Islamic Affairs Analyst', October 2008 (or 26 September 2008).
http://www.meforum.org/2066/war-and-peace-and-deceit-in-islam
War and Peace - and Deceit - in Islam
by Raymond Ibrahim - Pajamas Media February 12, 2009
Editor's note: Substantial portions of the following essay made up part of Mr. Ibrahim's written testimony that was presented to Congress on February 12, 2009.
http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war
How Taqiyya Alters Islam's Rules of War: Defeating Jihadist Terrorism," in the Middle East Quarterly, Winter 2010.
Toward the end of the third article, Raymond observes, succinctly:
"Taqiyya presents a range of ethical dilemmas.
Anyone who truly believes that God justifies and, through his prophet's example, even encourages deception will not experience any ethical qualms over lying."
Apostate from Islam Nonie Darwish, in this memorable speech from 2007,
http://frontpagemag.com/articles/Read.aspx?GUID=17069DA6-6C04-4E06-81C7-010C9F29AD55
states:
"On Arab TV, I once saw a Muslim preacher telling little children that lying is not allowed except under three conditions 1- Lying to non-Muslims when it is in the best interest of Islam. 2- Lying to Muslims if it will end conflict between them. And 3rd: Lying to one’s wife to improve the relationship.
"Lying thus has become an obligation in international relationships, Muslim relationships and family relationships.
"Any wonder why Muslims were silent after 9/11?
"Those who expose the lying game are considered traitors.
"By allowing lying, Muslims have created a culture unable to distinguish between lies from truth; truth has become a convoluted game of saving face for the best interest of Islam."
Note well - "Lying to non-Muslims [is permissible] when it is in the best interest of Islam."
The murderous Shafia family, and fellow Muslims defending them, would most assuredly lie their heads off - and HAVE lied their heads off in connection with this case. The Shafias because they were facing jail in a pesky infidel country that didn't understand or condone the necessity of executing uppity females; the rest of the Muslim ummah, which privately deeply approved of the murders and the murderers, in order to prevent those pesky Canadian kuffar - still too strong to be simply subdued by main force - from seeing the full ugliness of Islam while they are still strong enough to defend themselves against it.
This case has made a lot of Canadian kuffar deeply suspicious of Islam - even disgusted with it. Muslims know that if the kuffar get angry and disgusted enough, they might actually get round to doing something - like, say, stopping Mohammedan immigration, if they *really* got the full picture. So right at the moment Muslims have to try to pretend that killing uppity females isn't part and parcel of Islam. And to do that - to protect the beachhead that the Ummah has already established within Canada - many Muslims in Canada will lie till they're black in the face.
They will lie *exactly* as Mrs Yahya lied, in that cell, looking Barb Jagger right in the eye, in tones of deep sincerity and with entirely fake crocodile tears streaming down her face.
As fast as we can, we have to try to teach not only our politicians, and our diplomats, and our immigration officers and social security employees and our religious leaders, but also our journalists and media and our law enforcement and judiciary, that ...MUSLIMS LIE, almost as continuously and naturally as breathing. They lie to harm us dirty kuffar; they lie to protect the Ummah, or Mohammedan mob, and to advance its power vis a vis the Infidels; they lie to protect the belief-system, or cult, of Islam from sustained and critical scrutiny.
All of us have *got* to wise up to this lying game.
I wish the west would wake up and learn to evaluate the threat of even allowing these people entrance to civilized society. Now the government of Canada is forced to feed, cloth, house, educate, and protect these idiots for years to come and what does the taxpayers get out of it?
FYI..Quebec drivers are covered under "no fault" insurance..The Shafias are entitled to ~$250,000 worth of claims due to the "accident" that happened in Kingston,Ontario!..Guilty or not! A drunk driver from Montreal,(hometown of the Shafia's)killed two people and actually got ~$100,000 compensation for losing an eye in the "mishap"..Something to follow up on.. CJAD Radio covered it yesterday..So they'll be making their claim..Unfortunately no transcript..Call Kim Fraser..She'll tell ya..No polygamy/bygamy or immigration violations in the charges either..
http://www.cjad.com/Shows/KimFraserShow.aspx
Will Canadian authorities now take measures to protect other girls from the same fate, or will that make them bigoted and Islamophobic?
And there is even more inculpatory evidence.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/canada-in-afghanistan/What+Shafia+jury+didn+hear/6065603/story.html
Allow muz to immigrate and you invite violence and deceit.
Nice irony.
Sectarian Shaker slaughter shocks small community is a regular headline I've yet to see.
Meanwhile in the real world.....
Palestinian TV Praises Killers Who Massacred Family...
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17-Year-Old Kept Prisoner in New Zealand Suburbs...
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Islamic Scholars Endorse Electronic Jihad...
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Canadian Family Found Guilty of 'Honor' Killing Daughters...
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Minnesota Father Stabbed After Grounding Son from Jihad...
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Religion of Peace Advocates Threaten Nigerian Schools...
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Umpire Strikes Back - Kills Teen Cricket Spectator...
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Islamic Forum Comic Strip Blames Jews for Child Trafficking...
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(Egypt) Muslim Drive-By Cuts Down Copt Father and Son...
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Family of 14 Alleged Victims of 'Racial Cleansing' in Syria...
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Saudis Arrest 35 Christian 'Animal' for Home Worship...
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War Refugees Sexually Abused and Killed by Saudi Security...
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
All my local MSM source (Sydney Morning Herald) could come up with is "They felt dishonoured under their religion". Hmmm what religion is that SMH, the one that you refuse to mention that starts with an I?
http://media.smh.com.au/news/world-news/guilty-of-honour-killings-2924722.html
The 25 year sentance for these three has yet to be carried out. There will be a lot of verbal claims of innocents, and bigotry, and victimization of Muslims. There always is when Islam is found guilty.
I salute Canada for it's resolve in challenging times. U.S. judges and legisators do have that kind of courage nor honor.
I salute Canada for it's resolve in challenging times. U.S. judges and legisators do not have that kind of courage nor honor.
Well, he may be guilty according to the law, but the guys down at the mosque see him as a heroic martyr who did the 'right thing'...
Never more proud of Canada !
They are not the 1st we have convicted for honour killings ! 12 since 1999 & the funny part is they were exposed by Muslims !
Harper is raising the bar to come here while the liberal left cries racism unconstitutional etc. We have made hate speech a crime now it is time to limit religions of hate as well !
Time to rethink our involvement with NATO & the racist UN !!
For me, justice would be to sew them up in weighted pig skins and toss them into Rideau Canal lock.
Why go out your way to deny when the father, the brother, and the mother repeatedly condemned their daughters for defiling Islam. It may happen in other cultures/religions, but this crime was committed IN THE NAME OF ISLAM is clear as day.
Hopefully, we will continue to enforce our laws of the land. In this case, it was the excellent police work, totally based on the evidence that convicted these murderers.
Hopefully, our communities will be able to better respond to these abuses. The murdered girls did seek for help from the school administration, children's services, and women's shelter all of which somehow failed them as they promptly turned the girls over to their abusers.
Sometimes we get things right up here in the frozen north.
We do have our shame as Mounties turn a blind eye !
"Jaswinder Kaur Sidhu, also known as Jassi (August 4, 1975 - June 8, 2000) was a Sikh beautician in Maple Ridge, British Columbia, Canada, who was was murdered in an alleged honor killing. She was kidnapped, tortured, and killed allegedly on the orders of her mother, Malkiat Kaur Sidhu and her uncle, Surjit Singh Badesha, near Kaonke Khosa, Ludhiana, Punjab, India"
Media researchers are NOW finally reporting on the honouring killings and posted the STATS that there is a 400% increase in Honour-killings and that there have been 12 since 1999 .
Hmmmmmm. CAIR canada just boasted about how the muslim population in the STATS-CAN census showed an increase from about 400'000 to about 550'000( not the 1'000'000 used by CAIR version or Joe Goebels for propaganda) and that it will be very high by 2050 at the current rate for births and immigration and refugee claims.
But CAIR also boasted that there are so many muslim in Prison that Corrections canada had to hire Imam's full time to correct this Misunderstanders of the Quranic teaches to respect all faith and females as equals.
But lets project forward to see how CAIR's version of islam will affect females in canadian in 2050.
Honour killings up 400% while 12 have happended pre/post 9/11 2001 before the rampant islamophobia that caused the SJS(sudden jihad syndrome) cases to defend islam while it was muslims killing muslims and 18'000 terrorism Acts sicne 9/11 alone done by muslims that killed mostly other muslims.
So with muslims at about 1.5% of the population and 12 honour killings per decade at this population, for each 1.5% growth we can just add 12 more murders per year.
Thanks CAIR , the future looks real good for canada with your Religion Of Peace.
I tried to ring the alarm bell when Farah Khan was beheaded and then hacked into pieces by her pakistani parents who then buried her in a park like doggy doo .
But CAIR and the islamic supremacy thugs had their taqqiyah in full speed back then and denied the muslim parents from and islamic state killed their 6 year old becuase of islam or the quranic verses that make females chattle .
The court records for Farah's beheading detail how Daddy dearest used Shariah Law to excuse it away and get his Lawyer to argue that it's legal for muslims and the sentence should reflect islamic law even in canada.
Finally the useful idiots have been shaken up from their slumber , but did the feminists and Liberal/leftists really need to let 12 Brown-females be murdered or beheaded by muslim relatives onthe altar of Diversity and Multiculturalism??
Five years ago i warned poeple about the gendercide abortions but because it was Brown-female babies being aborted , the smug/white/leftist/liberal femiNazis stay quiet and stood by their pro-Choice abortion-on-demand.
This is what 40 years of pro-Communsit/Socialist Liberals like Trudeau have brought us because trudeau not only sat out WW2, but he rode around parts of Quebec on a motorcycle with a Nazi helmet to mock the Anglo's going to war against Hitler after September 1939 when Dolffy invaded Poland.
Trudeau was a friend of Fidel and Cuban Communism , he was a smug elite rich-kid and Lawyer who cheated on his wife and shamed his kids by his misogyny and contempt for morals and self-respect.
Trudeau's brat-son Justin had came out to denouce people that said that honour killing and gential mutilations were Barbaric. Little Justin joined the CBC and defended the pro-Shariah law thugs on our soil and he thought that it was islamophobia by right wing rednecks to attack islam for Cultural issues.
I stand by my assertions that i now feel that Liberalism is a mental disorder at birth and it forces liberals to not attck other liberals no matter what the crime is, they love their own , so when liberals screw-up or sin it is courageous that they admit it .
Sick basterds...period.
Toronto SUN Media is a great source of info on Islam & Charles Adler is one on my favourite truth speakers !
The Trudeaus are a peace of work. I was a student in London UK when he visited years ago & got to talk to him. He was an arrogant plsyboy running around London with several models acting the fool. He looked like the back end of a camel & the UK press reported his antics I assume paid for by Canadians.
Worst PM ever ! Justin has already shot himself in the foot several times !
Can't say enough about Margret that Rolling Stone flower child who needed to be locked up !
What were we thinking ???