The existence of disagreements is well known, but what remains to be seen is how it will affect governance and the crafting of Egypt's next constitution. A Sharia regime carries a perpetual element of instability in that, as even Imam Rauf knows, Sharia is a package deal. There can always be more of it, and the moment a state takes an "Islamic" identity, there is an incentive to enforce more Sharia to shore up its legitimacy. Morality policing is one frequent consequence (Gaza, Iran, Aceh, Saudi Arabia, the Taliban...), affording the government a cheap way of looking busy and reminding people who is boss.
But the aim of jihad in all its forms is the imposition of Islamic law. Someone will always want more, and will be willing to fight, kill, and overthrow governments for it. This inherent instability will also be an Achilles heel in any potential attempt at a caliphate, and is but one of many reasons Sharia is simply bad government.
In stability or instability, of course, the country's non-Muslims will bear the worst of Sharia, and the various side effects of dysfunctional or failed governance. "Divisions emerge between Islamists in Egypt," by Mohannad Sabry for McClatchy Newspapers, January 1:
CAIRO -- Islamist parties are the top two vote-getters after the first two phases of elections for Egypt's new parliament, but despite fears of a hard-line coalition, serious divisions have erupted between the two main Islamist groups before the parliament has even been seated.
The tensions between the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafist groups have raised questions about how Egypt's first parliament convened since President Hosni Mubarak's resignation in February will perform amid ongoing instability and protests against the country's interim military rulers.
In the second phase of elections, whose results were announced Dec. 24, the Muslim Brotherhood's political wing, the Freedom and Justice Party, maintained its leading position, raking in more than 4 million votes. It was followed by the Al Nour Party of the Salafists, a more hard-line Islamist group, with about 3.2 million votes.
Mohamed Morsi, head of the Freedom and Justice Party, dismissed talk of forming an alliance with the rival Salafists soon after results were announced by the Higher Electoral Committee. Although only partial results are available, both parties together control roughly half the parliamentary seats, with the Brotherhood holding about 30 percent.
"There is no alliance. ... I don't think it will happen any time soon due to conflicting ideologies," Morsi told Al Mehwer, an Egyptian cable channel, on Monday.
The Salafists agreed. "Any coalition with the Muslim Brotherhood is far from possible," said Nader Bakkar, the official spokesman of Al Nour Party. "We have significant differences and we don't think that we will be able to build any form of coalition with them."
The Brotherhood, meanwhile, formed an 11-party election bloc called the Democratic Alliance, which includes the prominent liberal parties Al Ghad ("Tomorrow") and Al Karama ("Dignity"). Asked whether U.S. officials welcomed the Brotherhood's outreach to liberal groups, State Department spokesman Mark Toner said earlier this month that it signaled "a very positive start" for the new parliament, which is expected to be seated on Jan. 23.
"I think we find that encouraging that there's politics going on there, that there's these kinds of discussions ... taking place," Toner said. "Again, it's very, very early. We just have preliminary results. There's a lot of elections that need to still be carried out, but we're off to a very positive start."
Although Salafists and the Muslim Brotherhood were both officially outlawed here for decades - members of the groups have shared prison cells - Salafist leaders have made several statements that have alarmed Egyptians and underscored their differences with the more moderate Brotherhood.
Abdel Monem el Shahat, a prominent Salafist cleric and a leading figure in the Al Nour Party, recently described the ancient Egyptian civilization as "rotten" and called for the country's Pharaonic statues to be covered in wax because they resembled those worshipped in pre-Islamic times.
The Egyptian Coalition for Tourism Support filed legal action against el Shahat on behalf of tourism companies, which complained that tourists canceled trips to Egypt after his remarks. El Shahat ran in the first phase of elections and lost his seat to a Muslim Brotherhood candidate.
U.S. officials, aware of the Brotherhood's influence - even when effectively banned, the group's members won around 20 percent of parliamentary seats in 2005 - have appeared to be open to dialogue with the organization's political wing. On Dec. 10, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and U.S. Ambassador Anne Patterson made an official visit to Freedom and Justice Party headquarters.
The widening gap between the Salafists and the rest of Egypt's political powers could prove a major hurdle for the parliament, which faces tremendous challenges following the upheaval of the past 11 months.
Salafists hold slightly more than 20 percent of parliamentary seats. Under current rules, a bloc needs 30 percent of votes to exercise a veto. But Hassan Nafaa, a political scientist and a member of the civilian advisory council appointed by Egypt's ruling military, said that Salafists will definitely stir controversy over tourism, arts, Islamic banking and other issues.
"Their hard-line approach and lack of political experience will definitely influence the performance of the coming parliament," Nafaa said.
Soon after the uprising that ousted Mubarak, the Muslim Brotherhood made moves to show it wasn't a hard-line group. It announced that it had formed the Freedom and Justice Party and replaced its slogan, "Islam is the Solution," with "Delivering Good for Egypt."
Deliberate ambiguity?
Brotherhood officials pledged to "respect civil rights and international treaties that have been signed in the past." They denied reports that the group aimed to re-examine Egypt's peace treaty with Israel, a linchpin of regional stability.....
MB: 4 million votes. Al Nour Party: 3.2 million votes.
That's a lot of morons for one country...
Muslim Brotherhood Leader Mohammad Badie says that they are "nearing their ultimate goal" o establish a Caliphate.
http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/574431
What could be more surprising? People who are both Muslim AND revolutionary are splitting into factions! How could this be possible?
Sarcasm off.
It will all work out well if the USA Government cracked down on hate site like Jihad Watch. I donot have any fear of than Caliphate like the racist Robert Spencer have of than Caliphate.
"Freedom" in Islamspeak meaning "Slavery to Allah".
"Justice" in Islamspeak means "Submission to the tyranny of Sharia religious law".
There is no Freedom in Islam or Justice.
They are only sucker bait for those nominal "Muslim" idiots in Islamic lands who haven't studied the revenge-fantasy packed Koran or the despotic, intolerant, totalitarian history of malignant Mohammadism.
Even were Allah's "true believers" to get exactly what they want, they would eat one another alive, for such is the nature of totalitarian systems.
Defender of the Indefensible:
I donot have any fear of than Caliphate like the racist Robert Spencer have of than Caliphate.
Please, do, explain to us infidels how Robert is a "racist" for pointing out precisely what your "muslim brothers" want.
And what "race" is islam, again??
I think I have a shoebox in a closet that has a higher IQ than you.
Matter of fact, I could most definitely scrape some mildew of my refrigerator's seals, put that mildew in a petri dish and grow a culture.
(That's scientific talk, which you don't understand.)
I'll bet dollars to donuts my mildew culture will have an IQ greater than your collective Ummah.
Good 'un Boneshack. .Kittyhawk, also, would never have lifted off the ground had the Wright bros been sand bandits.
Jim,
The Sand Bandits have tried many times to take credit for powered flight, but those two boys from Indiana proves the zombies are full of sh*t.
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It will all work out well if the USA Government cracked down on hate site like Jihad Watch. I donot have any fear of than Caliphate like the racist Robert Spencer have of than Caliphate.
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Pray tell how a site reporting the truth about islam is a hate site. The real hate sites are anywhere there are gatherings of muslims.
Unless islam is a race, I fail to see how Robert Spencer can be a racist, please elucidate.
There isn't going to be any caliphate because all you retarded loony tunes would fall out with your own shadows over the slightest thing. Egypt is going the way of all shariah driven countries, down the proverbial pan.
DOI writes: "...hate site like Jihad Watch."
okay, guilty as charged ...I hate islam!
Me too, I must be a racist bastard....Hang on a minute.
lol, yeah hating islam, and all it stands for, hardly makes us racists, right? ..but rather champions for freedom and truth!
Maybe they are arguing on whether Hanafi or Shafii jurisprudence should be the basis for their constitution. They really ought to have a civil war over it.
True Muslims use Democracy to vote for Sharia
who wants to destroy democracy
Ha. .Yeh
Civil war in Egypt? Wow, what a Christmas present that would be! Almost as good as another long war between Iran and Iraq.
Well, so long as ten million Coptic Christians can manage to get out of the way, first.
The good news is that Sharia destroys Islam whenever it's fully implemented (as in Iran).
But the aim of jihad in all its forms is the imposition of Islamic law. Someone will always want more, and will be willing to fight, kill, and overthrow governments for it. This inherent instability will also be an Achilles heel in any potential attempt at a caliphate, and is but one of many reasons Sharia is simply bad government.
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Yes, indeed. Thus, we are treated to bizarre spectacles such as the "Islamic Courts" Shari'ah government in Somali being violently challenged by the even more insanely fundamentalist Al-Shebaab for being "insufficiently Islamic".
DefenderofIslam wrote:
It will all work out well if the USA Government cracked down on hate site like Jihad Watch.
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Note that DefenderofIslam wants the government to enforce Shari'ah law by censoring anyone who has the temerity to point out how barbaric Shari'ah law is.
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I donot have any fear of than Caliphate like the racist Robert Spencer have of than Caliphate.
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The charge of "racism" is especially bizarre, given that DefenderofIslam is an American "revert". Now, I haven't the faintest idea what race DoI is, nor do I care—but given his status, he is likely the same race as many, many Infidels, which in itself makes his claim absurd.
And *of course* he has no fear of a Caliphate—he believes he and his savage coreligionists would have their pick of booty and Kaffir sex slaves—pretty much any "defender of Islam's" dream...