"This will happen whether they like it or not."
Yet we constantly hear from Muslim spokesmen in the West that only greasy Islamophobes misunderstand to such a degree that they would think that any Muslim has any plans to conquer and Islamize any Western states. How the Egyptian Muslim cleric Ali Abu Al-Hasan became a greasy Islamophobe they have not yet deigned to explain.
"Egyptian Cleric Ali Abu Al-Hasan: In Several Decades, 'Europe Will Become a Single Islamic State,'" from MEMRI, January 6 (thanks to Inexion):
Following are excerpts from a Friday sermon delivered by Egyptian cleric Ali Abu Al-Hasan, which aired on Al-Hekma TV on January 6, 2012:Ali Abu Al-Hasan: With the [Muslim] emigration [to Europe], and the unwillingness to get married and have children [among the Europeans]… A hundred of people there are succeeded by eighty, and ten years later, those eighty will be succeeded by sixty, and those sixty will later be succeeded by forty, and those forty will become ten a decade later, and twenty years later, not a single one of them will be left!
Europe has realized this. After a while, Europe will become a single Islamic state, which will know nothing but "There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is His Messenger." This will happen whether they like it or not. This is the decree of Allah. Islam is coming!
These islamic clerics are so prophetic, at least when it comes to statements such as "Europe...will know nothing but...".
That is truly the likely outcome.
Of course, for years, 'Jihadwatch', 'Stop the Islamization of Europe', etc have correctly pointed with urgency to both this demographic and ideological colonization of Europe by Islam, facilitated by Europe's political class.
Even 'liberal' Christopher Caldwell concludes his book, 'Reflections on the Revolution in Europe: Immigration, Islam and the West" (Penguin, 2009),
thus:
"It is certain that Europe will emerge changed from its confrontation with Islam. It is far less certain that Islam will prove assimilable. Europe finds itself in a contest with Islam for the allegiance of its newcomers. For now, Islam is the stronger party of that contest, in an ovbious demographic way and in a less obvious philosophical way. In such circumstances, words like 'majority' and 'minority' mean little. When an insecure, malleable, relativistic culture meets a culture that is anchored, confident, and strengthened by common doctrines, it is generally the former that changes to suit the latter."
"After a while Europe, will become a single Islamic state which will no nothing..." Yep I agree, that for anyone or any country to allow itself to be fooled/deceived by Islam (ie Moh and his demon friend Allah),it will be because they KNOW NOTHING of truth justice and true righteousness. They certainly don't know the one true GOD and savior Jesus.
Nope, Europe is civilised. Better dead than to be a slave of Islam. We'll see to it, that Europe won't surrender. SIOE is the organisation to join and there are many more. Thanks Robert for pointing this out, no sharia in Europe. No surrender!!!
Egyptian Muslim cleric: "After a while, Europe will become a single Islamic state, which will know nothing but 'There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is His Messenger.'"
If Europe comes to such a pass, it will indeed know nothing.
The cleric could have left off all of his statement beginning with "but".
I agree. No surrender. I can see the possibility of a war against Islam. To prevent the eventuality of a war, the West has to stop the Muslim immigration and get immigrants that are from all other backgrounds: hindu, buddhist,jewish, christians, the ones that have demonstrate that they are not stealth jihaddist. Also, increase the population by increasing the birth rate. I know the solution is rather simple. Why waiting that the situation get worse?
Muslims talking about what will happen in the future to Europe paint a nightmarish scenario that would be very difficult to top. Instructive that a Muslim's dream is just about an ordinary person's (yes, there are ordinary persons and there are Muslims) worst nightmare. Highly instructive.
Ah, Europe, you let the beast in, and quite willingly. Huge mistake. Perhaps the biggest mistake in all of European history. And this is saying something.
Dear Isabella, couldn't agree more. You got my point, muzzies out, civilised people in. That's what we need in Europe. We're open for all cultures but not for Islamic barbarism.
Won't happen. People say this, but it's just a combination of muslim boisterousness and anti-islam fear mongering. Not that the threat isn't real. It is, but Europeans are more clued in to islam than Americans are. People look at European politicians and try to draw a conclusion about all Europeans, but that would be like looking at Obama or Pelosi and saying that is what all Americans are like.
Why would any intelligent, rational person pay any attention whatsoever to foolish little costumed men such as this one, ranting about his supernaturalist delusions? Why would Europeans not see in these rants and in the hordes of followers filling up their cities a recrudesence of the Nazi madmen of 75 years ago, and denounce their hysterical totalitarian harangues and aggressive, violent behavior for what they are?
Religion. Prate about a god, especially a foreign god belonging to a multiculturally correct people taking advantage of colonialist guilt and other neurotic nonsense, and the same people who outlawed Nazism will nod and wink and claim that these ranting clerics are just "a tiny extremist minority hijacking the religion of peace".
"This will happen whether they like it or not" -- spoken by a demagogue in a nation already sliding into Islamist hell -- should be fighting words to every European. This farce will only begin to change as the civilized people of Europe finally awaken to the devils bargain their leftist elite EURO-masters have made with Islam and get "uncivilized" about it. Because, when "civilized" starts to mean tolerating the outrages of savages upon oneself, then it becomes sacrifice of the good to the evil and it stops being a life-sustaining policy. If re-claiming the no-go zones (by whatever means necessary), deporting those who refuse to assimilate, kicking out the imams and the Muslim Brotherhood goons and the polygamous families and the first cousin husbands from Pakistan is what it takes, it can't start soon enough.
Europe is teetering on the edge of financial disaster and is one Iranian EMP launch away from extinction as it is. I think the relevant expression is, "nowhere to go but up".
(If so, I do hope they will begin to fight for the freedom of all rational, rights-respecting people and not just the One True religious myth they think everyone should embrace as opposed to the idiocies of Islam. If anyone above finds a shoe there that fits, wear it.)
And then scumbags like the ones behind @Loonwatch(account linked to CAIR), amongst other delusional dolts, deny the undeniable and label stuff like this a 'conspiracy theory'!.
You can't trust anyone who makes speeches while balancing a meringue with a dollop of jam on his head!
Clown!
Any one has an old shoe so we could stuff it in the mouth of that lawed nincompoop so that gibberish coming out of, will stop.
No …the west will not be Islamized …the people who are leaving Islam surpass the number of people are converting to Islam
The kids of ex Muslims most likely will not be Muslims especially people living in the west.
The kids of Muslim convert to Islam will not be as strict as their fathers and mothers because the impact Of Islam is not direct and the brain watching is only second hand …Islam will be watered down .
Shariah will be only a book in a museum …it can be implemented any where.
Even the Muslims them selves that will in next generation will be different from the way they are today
This 70 or 80 years old Sheek ,and others like him,speaking of islam in Europe, is going to die [ good ridden] and will take his sick brian and sick Muslim ideas with him to rot where he become rich food for few trees and that is all he good for.
The magic of Internet is poison to Islam because of its far reaching knowledge who is waking the sleeping minds of Muslims and non muslims alike.
I am one of those who woke up …and the internet pushed me to make the step and cross the invisible line ...I do not think I wouldn't have done it ….I am sure there is thousand of Muslims are reaching this conclusion every year
So what do you think, will happen in 50 or 100 years ….No Islam .
Well.
Better wake up Europe, 'cause the clown in the video is serious about his Hijra stuff.
When they silently allowed their "leaders" to foster the infiltration of millions of Muslim immigrants and refused to implement programs to assmiliate these muhajarin, Europeans planted the seeds of their own destruction.
Is it too late?
"the unwillingness to get married and have children [among the Europeans]… "
We have to admit that he is right about this one but he didn't take into consideration the massive conversions from Islam to Christianity especially in Africa and Asia.
They never talk about this Christianization movement, but one prominent Muslim sheikh did:
"This Christianization movement is too big to be dealt with even by all arab countries combined." Sheikh Al-Qataani on Al-Jazeera TV.
For those who can read arabic, they can download the original transcripts here:
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/05/dying-islam-lislam-mourant.html
Could anybody tell me ...has the west become so stupid and insane?
You hear everyday and I think you know how every muslim deeply deeply in his heart hate you and his ultimate life goal is to submit every one of you and control every country you have then and just then the muslim can survive. he always live with this insane dream YET you the west seems indifference, opening your doors wide to them and conceive yourselves foolishly that muslims would incorporated well in your society.
listen what muslims say and believe in their shit countries because there they always have fun with your stupidity and feel they have a gate or a hole with it they can enter (happened already) your countries and changes everything...wake up its serious. you may end up like us Copts. we has warned you.
Why is it that all western nations seem to have their doors wide open for these inbred mutant perverts, just what the hell is going on?
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I believe the answer to your questions are in the fact that the western controled media is deliberately keeping the public in the dark on the perils of the invited islamic invasion and colonisation of the west.
The trouble is that our electorate are far too complacent. But what do they do about it? They keep on voting for the very same people who are encouraging this mass invasion of the west by a hostile society of savages.
When people like myself try and bring it to the public attention we are labeled racists by the trained poodles of the established order.
While the future of Europe regarding Islamization over the next several decades is uncertain, I think we can be reasonably sure that Islamization is going to continue and thus increase there, through demographics and otherwise, over the next ten years. No conspiracy is required for Islamization to occur. It is primarily a cultural and social transition that will continue to unfold. All that is needed is for enough Muslims to continue practicing and promoting an unreformed Islam, having higher-than-replacement fertility rates; and for the non-Muslims to have below-replacement fertility rates while continuing to accommodate Islam and continuing to punish opponents/critics of Islam. In the context of a democracy, sharia may eventually be voted in by mid- to late century in several major European countries by Muslim pluralities or majorities. Alternatively, these countries may be vulnerable to military invasion as the percentage of people not loyal to European countries, but loyal to potential Muslim invaders, increases.
The Sheikh's (Ali Abu Al-Hasan) comment on the hijra to Europe: "With the [Muslim] emigration [to Europe], and the unwillingness to get married and have children [among the Europeans]… A hundred of people there are succeeded by eighty, and ten years later, those eighty will be succeeded by sixty, and those sixty will later be succeeded by forty, and those forty will become ten a decade later, and twenty years later, not a single one of them will be left!"
While the sheikh is correct to note the trend of declining non-Muslim population in Europe due to low fertility rates, the idea that "not a single one of them will be left" is quite ludicrous and appears to be based on a misunderstanding of what happens to populations that go into decline.
I'm assuming that the sheikh is not implying that the remaining non-Muslims will be killed, banished, or converted to Islam; his point as quoted refers to declining birth rates as the cause.
Anyways, it's not all Europeans uniformly who have reduced (below replacement level) fertility rate. Specific kinds of Europeans have lower fertility rates, whereas others have higher fertility rates. Eventually, the kinds of Europeans who have lower fertility rates will tend to die off (for obvious reasons; they don't reproduce, or not as much), while other kinds of Europeans will continue to replace themselves and then some. (Likewise, within the Muslim population, various subgroups differ from one another in fertility rates, e.g., those who are more fervent and devout tend to have more children).
What we will see is hard to predict, but it does seem to me that there will be an increase in polarization of the Muslim versus non-Muslim populations, by mid-century, due in part to the fact that those who tend to be more traditional and zealous in defending their culture tend to have more children; they are the future. The soft-headed multiculturalists who are rolling out the red carpet for Islam at every step of the way are going to die off; they don't have as many children as their more culturally-proud fellow citizens. Likewise, the moderate Muslims will tend to have less children, and so this will lead to less moderate Muslims.
In addition to this dynamic, there is another, namely that in modern Western civilization the process of formal education (with the current ideologies holding sway), leads people to become more tolerant, as does the process of socialization and exposure to media (again, with the current ideologies holding sway). The political, media, and academic systems ideologically (as they are currently) tend to lead people away from an oppositional stance toward Islam and even toward a pro-Islam or at least a defensive-of-Islam posture. In contrast, for the Muslim side, there is little opposition to their views allowed in public, and there is much ideological support for their views, largely unchallenged desire to implement sharia, and so on. (Only a very small percentage of Muslim oppose sharia).
In any case, whereas the fertility rate factors tend to favor a polarization of the two sub-populations I mentioned above, the socialization/education process currently favors the weakening and merging of Muslim and non-Muslim populations, but with a clear advantage going to the Muslim side.
Both fertility rates (plus immigration) and cultural/socialization factors currently favor Muslims eventually achieving pluralities then majorities as the largest voting blocks in European countries (and Canada). The non-Muslim Europenas then will be a kind of persecuted worker class of people who provide the basis for the economies, i.e, like the classic dhimmis--if the eventual Muslim majorities do not in fact formally impose the dhimma as such.
This is all of course highly speculative. Predicting further and further into the future is increasingly fraught with error. But I think the path over the next year, next five years, and next ten years is fairly easy to predict, assuming current trends continue: No significant opposition to the accumulating Islamization process, continued marginalization of the opponents of sharia and jihad, etc.
This is not all predetermined, of course. We freedom-loving non-Muslims in the West are still in the driver's seat demographically, and we need to use this fact sooner rather than later to our advantage, by voting in politicians who defend freedom and who oppose sharia. We all have to do what we can to oppose Islamization, from the level of everyday conversation with people, to our attempts to increase our involvement in the media, academia, and in politics, and in our voting at the ballot box, taking legal actions, etc.
"Both fertility rates (plus immigration) and cultural/socialization factors currently favor Muslims eventually achieving pluralities then majorities as the largest voting blocks in European countries (and Canada)."
...to be totally clear, I mean that could happen by mid to late century.
Egyptian Muslim cleric: "After a while, Europe will become a single Islamic state, which will know nothing but 'There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is His Messenger.'"
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Well, he's right—under these circumstances, Europe would have descended into a profound ignorance, and would indeed "know nothing"...
More:
Following are excerpts from a Friday sermon delivered by Egyptian cleric Ali Abu Al-Hasan, which aired on Al-Hekma TV...
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The irony of this vile know-nothing touting his eagerness for ignorance on a station whose name in Arabic translates as "Wisdom" shows once again that Islam uses words differently than we do...
KirkB1 wrote:
Won't happen. People say this, but it's just a combination of muslim boisterousness and anti-islam fear mongering...
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Is it "anti-Islam" to point out what Muslims envision for Europe and the West? These are the words of a high-ranking Muslim cleric, not—As Mr. Spencer points out—some hysterical "Islamophobe".
Here is a literal translation of Egyptian Cleric Ali Abu Al-Hasan’s prediction, from the depths of his black, evil heart:
“Europe will become a single Islamic state. All Europeans – all those Nordic and Celtic and Latin races and other races up there that we hate so much – will become Muslims or our slaves or servants, the ones who are left because they refuse to multiply like rabbits, as we do. There will be nothing left but homely people like me, wearing funny robes and ridiculous hats. You laugh at me and insult me now, but we will have the last laugh and last insult. All libraries will be closed or their shelves cleansed of works offensive to Allah and Mohammad. All museums will be cleansed. We will smash to pieces the Nike of Samothrace, and the Michelangelo David and Pieta, and other such pagan and blasphemous works wherever we find them. We are drawing up a list. Paintings, especially those of the realist school, will be subjected to knives and the match and kerosene.
We will raze the Parthenon and the Coliseum and other such landmarks of infidel culture. We will place the crescent and star atop the Eiffel Tower and Big Ben and other European landmarks. In fact, there will be no culture but Islamic culture, what little of it there is. Some poetry will be allowed – as long as it praises Allah, and certainly no Persian poetry, we have scores to settle with those Shi’ite blasphemers, but that’s none of your concern – but we the racially superior Semites devoted to Allah will write it, and no one else. No literature but Islamic literature will be allowed. Shakespeare, and Austen, and Rostand, and Hugo and all those others will be banned and burned and we will forget them and we will force you to forget them. There will be no music: No Chopin, no Liszt, no Beethoven, no Rachmaninoff, no Offenbach, no Sibelius, nothing that sounds better than any muezzin’s call to prayers will be permitted. That will be the limit of music, such as it is.
Europeans will be obliged to wear Muslim garb, including the burqa or veil. Europeans will be obliged to walk in the gutter when approached by authentic Muslims. Blonde and redheaded European women will be drafted into harems for the pleasure of local chieftains. Those who refuse to submit, will be killed or mutilated. Nice looking European boys will also be drafted into service. Europeans will know degradation and slavery, Allah wills it. Europeans will defer to Muslims in every aspect, or suffer consequences. The least complaint will earn 100 lashes or amputation of some limb.
And, of course, while there may be some racially pure Europeans left, there will be no Jews left at all. We will see to it that the utmost wish of Hitler – blessings and peace be upon him – is fulfilled at long last.
You Europeans have no idea of how much we Muslims hate you, hate you for having flaunted your cultural superiority and made us look like fools. But while you were able to create, we are superior, because we can destroy whatever you created. And once the process of destruction is completed, and you are subjugated and all evidence of your culture has been eradicated, there will be peace.”
THANK YOU.
Finally, I may comment on one of your posts. Very well-said. And some lovely phrases:
"There will be no music: No Chopin, no Liszt, no Beethoven, no Rachmaninoff, no Offenbach, no Sibelius, nothing that sounds better than any muezzin’s call to prayers will be permitted. That will be the limit of music, such as it is."
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"...Shakespeare, and Austen, and Rostand, and Hugo and all those others will be banned and burned and we will forget them and we will force you to forget them."
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No, we know they can't REALLY do that, huh, skeen? - they might claim to extinguish the light of mankind - but they cannot, in truth. Why? Because we already know...
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As for the call to prayer...I heard it for 3 years bellowing over Riyadh from what must have been 100 sound systems. It is, in fact, a very hideous, cacaphonous sound.
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I'm glad to be able to respond to a very provocative and well-thought-out post of yours. :)
That's what he and his vile coreligionists mean all right, Skeen—and these days, they are barely veiling their words at all.
And why? Because they have become emboldened in their ignorant savagery—we have to change that by defending our lives and culture, and defending them loudly and strongly.
Fitzgerald: What's at stake
Jihad Watch's Hugh Fitzgerald compiles a short list of what has been put at risk with the rapid Islamization of Europe:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/05/fitzgerald-whats-at-stake.html
And by way of illustration:
http://staff.science.uva.nl/~fjseins/RembrandtCatalogue/index.html
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mR3SubqBlxM/TL_-dEMLJDI/AAAAAAAAADI/MQ2aV66miPE/s1600/Art_Rodin_The_Kiss.jpg
http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/m/michelan/1sculptu/pieta/1pieta1.html
Excellent stuff from Hugh Fitzgerald on what we stand to lose to Islam, DDA. I have read his pieces on the threat several times.
Muslims could go on a orgy of destruction here in the culturally-rich West. Just imagine what could happen to a place like Italy, where every block presents a treasure trove of "Jahillya"...